680I apart from EVGA (who gave out free upgrades to newer REV) do not even fully support 65nm Quads and none support 45nm Quads AFAIK (Asus do not).
If your going to buy a ££££/$$$$$ Quad CPU FFS get a decent P45/X48 Mobo not a 680/780 POS. ;)
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680I apart from EVGA (who gave out free upgrades to newer REV) do not even fully support 65nm Quads and none support 45nm Quads AFAIK (Asus do not).
If your going to buy a ££££/$$$$$ Quad CPU FFS get a decent P45/X48 Mobo not a 680/780 POS. ;)
I have heard that the P45 mobo's are great for the quads. I currently have this asus x48 and have been pleased. I like this board better than the nvidia boards except for the raid controller. I got faster throughput with the nforce raid controller. As far as this cpu, I would recommend a P45 or an asus x48 mobo. The only x38 I had was a dfi board and I had really bad luck with it.
I see why you guys bash Nvidia.. but when I look at it. My CPU is doing just as good as most of yours on my 750i.. except for a small few of you.. napalm, Jor.. and a few others. lol. So whats the big deal here.
I don't by ANY means LOVE Nvidia. I like the GPU's.. and I just got the Mobo I have now as it fit what I wanted, was looking for, and my budget back when I first built this system. and yes I've updated almost everything in this system over the last little while but the Motherboard, to be honest with you. I dont' even like my board. not really. It's served me well, and I've not had any problems at all. and it's keeping my Quad at 4.0 Ghz with 1.304v with NO problems. and was doing pretty good at 4.205 Ghz also might I add. so it worked great for me. but I just never upgraded for that reason. I was only looking into the 790i as it's a good deal for the price. thats all. and I wasn't looking to get a 780i. I was looking at a 790i.. but I didn't get one. I bought a new lens for my DSLR Camera instead. :) and I'm very exited about that actually..screw the 790i. plus after looking up reviews I remember the original 790i had many many problems. I don't want problems.
Ya know, to be honest. I'll probably never go SLI.. yea it would be nice, but the LITTLE.. like what.. maybe 6-8% increase in Performance isn't really worth it. I got this board, and the bigger PSU just in case I ever went SLI. but I probably never will.. not to mention I could always get the new Nvidia Dual card if i really wanted to. but currently the GTX260 is doing everything I could ask for. and don't care to upgrade it until I need to.. and there's just SOOO many 775 boards these days it's hard to decide on what to get. If I got a new Mobo I'd want to get into something for Under $200.
How does the new Nvidia X58 board do.. anyone know? they get back on track with that.. or is it Shyte like the 6/7 series.?
Thats definately NOT TRUE anymore. Almost EVERY game now (current, dont bring up some old 1999-2000 game) has SLi support, whether it scales good to mediocre.Quote:
Originally Posted by humeyboy
Im getting a GTX295 on release day, and as you know its "SLI on a Stick" 2 cards on 1. Crossfire has more issues with game scaling then SLi, SLi is nearly perfect when it comes to that, and this is back in 07-08 when i had 8800GTS 640mb in SLi
Also @ xguntherc, its ALOT more then a 6-8% increase. as long as you game at 1680x1050 or higher resolution, and you like lots of AA and AF. my 2 8800GTS in SLi would truck through 1920x1200 with 4xAA in all my games. while 1 8800GTX would suffer.
Its more than 6-8% and if you have the board its definately worth it. You dont need a new PSU either, a 750w will do fine, especially since its a PC P&C, very high quality and high amps on the 12v Rail. all you need to do is buy the card :)
ya I know. I might sell it and get the new card. but I don't NEED it.
but you all know how us computer enthusiasts are. we want it cuz we have to have it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Furiøùs
FACT !, all games do not run in SLI/Crossfire fully, and the gains are not that great.
You get more issues than fixes, and losing half the cards Ram is a joke TBH.
There is no need for 2 GPU's for now and I can see many threads all over forums with nothing but Dual card setup issues.
Dual GPU's will only be good when they act like a Dual Core CPU.
The GTX295 is another half baked hash job, I certainly can skip it.
You upgrading your GPU to try play a few bad codes jobs and console ports ?
Throwing money/hardware at them is pointless.
@ xguntherc, I knew it would be like talking to a brick wall with your blind faith in Nvidia Chipsets (I have been there too).
Your Rig apart from Mobo is top end, the Mobo is a POS, its not even the Flagship model, the 780 is over it same as the 680 was over the 650 and they all are total crap.
Again AFAIK 45nm Quads are not even supported properly by the 780 so same can be said for the 750 (I owned the 780 and knew this when I bought it) and that's official Asus info.
There is no need for any Nvidia based Mobo unless you want SLI without going to new 1366 Socket, even then I stand by the fact that 2 GPU's is still a waste of time in most cases (I have tried SLI and i will not be trying it again till at least SLI 2).
You have repeatably went from hot to cold on changing your Mobo in this thread but what do you want to hear from me or others ?
You want me to BS you and say your Mobo is great and it will get a really high FSB OC on that 45nm Quad ?
I've never once said I had a great board.. I'm not sure what your talking about.
I have simply stated in the past, and yesterday. that even though everyone trashes on the Nvidia boards. I simply stated that even though you all bash it, I've still managed to hit 4.0 Ghz (not a huge accomplishment either).. but Stable as can be, and enjoyed it. I use the computer daily.. for hours. and with my old Q6700 I sat at 3.66 Ghz with this Board. I didn't say I loved it.. Nor that it was an amazing board. I just said that it's done me well, and worked for what I needed.
I don't have any Blind faith to Nvidia. Maybe with GPU's I do. but I would try any other brand of Mobo without thinking twice. Like I said before. This was what I got when I built my system. It's worked GREAT for me since I got it, and thats why when people trash it. I simply don't say "You are Wrong" Nvidia boards are the best.. I never say anything like that. I've said that it's served me well. and done what I wanted it to.
So no, talking to me about that isn't talking to a brick wall. I was just stating that it's done what it was intended to do for "Me."
I've never went from hot to cold on changing my motherboards. I've asked for others inputs on what a good next board would be. And maybe I've not got one for funds or what not. but I've not been hot and cold. I still want a new Mobo. I just don't know what.
I don't really like my board all that much, but it HAS, served me well!
I had 4GHZ on a Asus 780I and E8500, it ran hot but then it ran hot at stock (NB/SB) lol.
Its all the bugs that come with it be it OC or stock I got rid of it under the DSA fast.
Advise you get a P45, and you can ignore any BS about the fact if you run 2x GPU's it will be 2x8 over its 1x16, I have already touched on fact a few times its PCI-E 2.0.
I do not see why anyone needs 2x GPU's esp if RES is not Much Higher than 1920's with MAX AA+AF.
Ya.. well i see what your saying. but I'm on a quad. it's a little harder to get 4.0 Ghz on a Quad then a E8500 and mine runs cool as hell..
right now I'm at 4.0 Ghz and my idle temps are 31/31/30/30 on my Quad. those are pretty good temps for Air Cooling and a Quad.
So your recommending I get a P45 then huh. I was thinking of getting the UD3.. how is that?
All the peeps are hitting 4GHZ+ on here with Q9650 E0's AFAICS.
They stand a far better chance on other Chipsets than crappy Nvidia 680/780 and even slightly better 790I owners do.
You ain't ever going to get the best out that CPU on your Mobo period m8.
The Gigabyte P45 is said to be the best for OC'ing as its Rev 3 Chipsets, not sure if Asus have these yet but mines is Rev 2 Chipsets (not Mobo Rev).
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DQ6 is good.
Hmmm it seems noone has managed to get these bad boys 4.3Ghz stable on a x48 mobo...
I didn't say Nvidia boards were amazing or anything like that. Just was saying that mine was working good for me, you seem angry for some reason.. and again, I'm not trying to say my board is good. or to cause a argument or anything of that sort. but look at kill a wat above this post. he can't get 4.3 stable on his x48.. and he says it looks like no one can. He's at 4.2 Ghz. and my board does 4.205 Ghz stable.
I'm just saying.. ok. haha.
and yea that EP45-DQ6 sure looks good. but I dont' need 8 USB ports and all that. I might someday soon upgrade my board. but if I do that means I'll need to go to DDR3 huh? most likely. Thats ok to I guess since it's getting pretty cheap these days. I could sell my two 2x2GB kits and get one kit of ddr3.
I might get a new board eventually, but I can't right now. Thanks for your input though.
I'm deff not angry, why would I know I have a stable rig ? :confused:
Simply "POS" is the only term I can use to describe my 680 and 780. :cool:
Also I'm done as I know by reading this entire thread, its like talking to a brick wall trying to help you get the best out your hardware.
I don't care less what others have or get out of it, fact is your CPU is wasted in that Mobo IMO. :)
It is clear that P45 is the best for highest stable overclock. Although not everyone has or wants to buy one for various reasons which is fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by xguntherc
I am still at early stages for testing stability of 4.3Ghz as Im too busy playing Mass Effect but for me I would only consider a change in mobo if I am pretty certain I can get 500x9 without any extreme o/c techniques such as modding 12V rails etc else my rig is just fine and is over 15 hours (which I manually stopped) Prime Blend stable :)
Good decisions lads, a quad at 4-4.2Ghz is amasing already...it's nice to show off higher for benching, but at some point it can get silly... really would love to see all of them high Ghz claims in daily ops with high end or normal AIR/H2O cooling... I know this is extremesystems, but some users get way to carried away as this forum has evolved to a more general aid forum, the extreme section is another section in this forum... the same problem persists : some highly experienced clockers start a thread and then most users think they can do the same...
And let's look at them P45 mobo's in half a year, I have big doubts for them 500FSB 24/7clocks
@ Humeyboy What are you trying to achieve ? If the guy is happy with his current OC and setup , good for him. My 680I Striker still runs strong with an E8400 (and that board I got for free, from a very frustrated user) the 750FTW isn't a bad board at all... you just need to be more lucky with a Nvidia chipset...and if it runs the lads' Q9650@4ghz be happy for him... MAYBE he can get 4.2 out of it on another board : NOT A BIG DEAL MATE !! as you will hardly notice anything in gaming, folding etc...
And to throw back the ball at you, 4ghz with an E8600 I can do that with an E8200 on a far cheaper board, maybe a bit more volts but it would be as fast as your setup...
@ Leeghoofd, Are you BLIND ? :confused:
If you read this entire thread you would see he has moaned about his Mobo on and off all through it. :rolleyes:
1 minute wanting a new Mobo, next minute his Mobo is now great.
He is obv waiting/wanting someone to tell him his Mobo is great and this would justify his purchase.
I REPEAT, I have been there with loyalty to Nvidia Mobos. and finally someone got me to see the light, after NF4 (great) and NF5( ok) they are sh1t).
If he cannot listen to multiple peeps advise he should not bother moaning about his Mobo. :)
Well mate I lost interest a long time in this thread, early results were promising and maybe like I stated before a bit too much for the common user to replicate. After that nothing but users that could not get them exact results... I only reread the last pages as a friend was also posting results here, but just saw the on and off between you two...
Best thing is to let it rest and to ignore. And don't react so agressively using S words etc... or telling I'm blind lol
I hope someone still will posts some nice clocks here with something else than a CPU-Z screenie, 1mb Pi run or an everest bandwith benchmark...
Hopefully these CPU's will drop drastically in price with the new Phenom II on the block now ( although early results indicate it was again mega overhyped, or all the reviewers just got louzy samples )
Holding my breath for a $300 Q9650. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
There's rumour of an Intel price cut end of this month but no idea which models are exactly involved...
the q9650 isn't going to get a pricecut. they are stopping production this quarter at some point and the price of the chip is only going to go up after that :\
These Q9650s are great although if mine were to die I'd most likely go for the i7 920 for wider video card choice/combos. But in the event the Q9650 gets a significant price cut then I may still consider it...the chip is fantastic
Else I'll sit tight until the next gen i7s are released :yepp:
Oh really?Quote:
Hmmm it seems noone has managed to get these bad boys 4.3Ghz stable on a x48 mobo...
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...hz15runIBT.jpg
:up:
I accidently closed Realtemp in above pic but load temps got to mid 70's in my bedroom, heating was on :( Cores 2 and 3 don't drop below 39 and 40 respectively either but generall run 1-2c hotter than cores 0 and 1
My 3d Mark 06 run:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...h_3dMark06.jpg
However failed prime small overnight last night after about 5 hours on one core, nudged vcore to 1.39375 this morning but yet to re-run, very close to full stableness :)
Here are my settings for my Rampage Extreme:
Processor: Q9560
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 490
CPU Clock Skew: Delay 200ps <--- these got me stable at 4.41
NB Clock Skew: Delay 100ps <--- these got me stable at 4.41
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: DDR3 - 1569MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: 7-7-7-18 1N
Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled
Static Read and Static Write Disabled
Stronger Performance Level
PCIE Frequency: 100
CPU Voltage: 1.39375 <--- just upped this morning to this
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40
DRAM Voltage: 1.9
North Bridge Voltage: 1.63
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10
CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1):-45mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3):-45mv
NB GTL Reference: +50mv
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto
very nice mate...what vid is your Q9650 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulyD
Cheers
Sergio
1.2375 is the VID. Its Devious's old chip :)
However I can go to 495fsb and that work ok but as soon as i try for 500x9 mobo gets stuck on DET DRAM no matter what trd settings i use, haven't really gone into this much as have been working on getting this 4.41Ghz for 24/7 use :up:
use DRAM Skews mate, start on 50ps delay, that's how i put my gskills on 1267Mhz 2x2GB stable PL8 and 1200 PL7Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulyD
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: 50ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: 50ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: 50ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: 50ps
Congrats amazing chip, mine's just 1,25vid
Sergio
So far so good. You mentioned you ran Prime Small overnight im assuming you mean small FFTs? Can you please run Prime Blend if you don't mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulyD
But lookin good so far :clap: And another thing, are you watercooling the chipset? Reason is my chipset is aircooled and I want to know if I should even bother going for 4.3+...
Mine so far is at 4.275Ghz 1.38v (1.25VID). Oh and I sold my dominators so I'm using my mediocre Corsair 1333Mhz DDR3 2x2gb for now and have not fiddled with timings etc yet
25 run IBT:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9...nibtstanl8.jpg
1 Hour Prime Blend:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1...hrstablcl0.jpg
THANK YOU Leefhoof.
Yes I'm happy with my setup.. and yes it does 4.205 Ghz STABLE.. so ya, if I got another board.. and spend $200 dollars, maybe, maybe I could get 4.3 or 4.4 Ghz.. but really. what is 200mhz going to do for me that my 750 FTW at 4.205 Ghz Can't.. get a few points in a benchmark. Not :banana::banana::banana::banana:!
I have mentioned a few times that I wouldn't mind a new board, but I've never said that it was a great board. I've only mentioned that it's done it's job Well for me. and for him to Continuously call my setup a POS, and that talking to me is like a Brick Wall is just a little insulting. I've listened to him. and simply stated how my board has performed. Yes there may be better boards. but for the SMALL.. SMALL increase i "Might" get. it's simply not worth it. I don't care what board I use, I'm not going to get anywhere near 4.5 or more like Napalm and others have. I'm not that extreme. then he started getting all defensive about my system being junk, ya the board isn't that great. but it's not a complete POS. and a waste either. For you to say the CPU is a complete Waste in this board is just retarded. When I'm hitting 4.2 Stable with no problems, or hard work. thats not a waste. like I said above in this post. if I spend $200 and got a better board, plus more $$ for DDR3 I'd maybe, maybe get to 4.4 Ghz, at most.. maybe more if I'm lucky.. and that small increase isn't worth $200-$300 bucks to me, but for him to just start attacking my system and bashing it just because he has personal hate towards Nvidia is just stupid.
Nice work there kill a wat. Nice oc so far. See he is on a X48.. with H20, and only at 4.275.. and I'm doing 4.205 Ghz stable on Air with my "Junk" board.
Anyways I'm done, thanks for your Kind input on other motherboard options. oh and Nice work there Pauly D. thats pretty good also.
Tried going from 25ps through to 100ps both delay and advance but still stuck on DET DRAM :(Quote:
use DRAM Skews mate, start on 50ps delay, that's how i put my gskills on 1267Mhz 2x2GB stable PL8 and 1200 PL7
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: 50ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: 50ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: 50ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: 50ps
To be honest I can get the basics of overclocking down fine but its the tweaking at the top end that eludes me :rolleyes:
Sorry i should have said before, got my CPU and NB under water in the same loop (PA120.3, Fuzion V2, EK NB block, DDC 18w with alphacool top and single bay res)Quote:
But lookin good so far And another thing, are you watercooling the chipset? Reason is my chipset is aircooled and I want to know if I should even bother going for 4.3+...
Mine so far is at 4.275Ghz 1.38v (1.25VID). Oh and I sold my dominators so I'm using my mediocre Corsair 1333Mhz DDR3 2x2gb for now and have not fiddled with timings etc yet
BTW in your blend test i believe you have the TJ Max set wrong for the Q9650, its 95c i believe not 100c - someone correct me if im wrong :)
It was small FFT's i was testing. Before it used to always fail blend within the first self test but since putting in the CPU and NB skews it passed 2 self tests. Went to try IBT and BSOD, upped voltages on CPU and NB and did the 15 run test above. Left it doing the small FFT overnight and was going to do blend tonight if it passed but failed after about 5 hours, will blend it once CPU has passed priming ok though have been on PC all day and not had any crashes or issues (so far!)
for 475x9 i needed 1.352 load so your really not far off this chip at all :up:
Give 4.3 a go and tweak it from there, what are your temps like on your chipset?
Must say thanks to a lot of people in this thread as well, wouldn't have got half this far without your input as have been lurking in the background!! :clap:
Xguntherc - thanks and i completely agree with you, if your happy with the performance and its rock stable and what you want then why change?? 4.2ghz is not to be sniffed at whatever board its in!
Xguntherc 4.2 is fine by my standards :up:
To be frank i'm very pleased with what I'm on now and will leave it. Since my chipset is on air if I set my NB volt anything above 1.35v it fails prime blend... I can't see the temps as I'm using a P5E3 Premium x48 unlike Rampage Extreme (which I was considering a while back) :)
Oh and my TJMax on Real Temp is set to 100 which I believe is correct. My watercooling on my CPU is very average or needs a service/check up LOL :)
yes, the TJ Max is supposed to be at 100c for these chips.. so thats correct.
Yea. I'm happy with 4.2 I run 24/7 on 4.0 Ghz and I bench with a easy to switch to profile with 4.205 Ghz settings, then bench there. I've actually never tried for farther.. So I'm thinking I could. After all i have a stronger PSU now, better ram. and my air temps at 4.0 are only 30c give or take 1c on each core.
oh and thanks for backing me up. :)
Thanks, just checked and is indeed 100c, my mistake! :rolleyes:Quote:
yes, the TJ Max is supposed to be at 100c for these chips.. so thats correct.
I was really happy with getting to 4.275ghz, though i was always so close to getting 4.4 under "safe" voltages that it kept making me go for it.
Currently done about of hour of blend fine (still running now) will update shortly.
Maybe the PSU thing is a myth, sorry Napalm, but i'm running this rig (in sig) with my water setup (DDC 18w) 4 cathodes, 5x120mm fans and 2x92mm fans on a coolermaster realpower 620w PSU, though everest reports it still has 12.10v on 12v rails ;)
EDIT: here is 3 hour prime blend stable - got bored and played some CSS after this long :D
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...3hourblend.jpg
Nice work.. at only 1.38v.. whats ur vcore set to in the bios?
Good stuff mate. I knew you'd get it. Oh and managed to get some stability with 4.3 :)
25 run IBT so far....I'll tweak it here and there gotta get back to Mass Effect!
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/725...hzstabldp3.jpg
oh and somewhere in this Thread over the last few days I remember someone saying they were looking for a Q9650 that was a good deal. I have found a slightly used one for sale if anyone's interested. for $410 and he's hit 4.2 with ease.
oh and question. a guy is trying to sell me a used Q9550. and he says the VID is 1.1750.. thats a really low VID. is that legit. or are they not that low? maybe he had speedstep on or something. or are some that low?
VID doesnt matter, just how the cpu clocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by xguntherc
well i know that.. but the VID matters a little. he has it at 3.8 Ghz now, and said he hit that his first try, and never went higher. He's sort of a noob also.
A small variance in VID like the one above is no big deal for me personally. Main thing is cooling the chip and the general overclockability of it and boy do these Q9650s overclock well :D
But its good to see a 4.4Ghz on an x48 I have been searching everywhere and could not find one with Prime Blend screenshots. Thanks PaulyD :up:
I guess P45s are not the only boards capable of bringing out the high potential of these chips. Oh a friend sold me his Corsair HX1000 so I'll plug that into my system soon and see if that helps any. I've heard good things about these HX1000s...
Cheers guys,
I left it running Prime small FFT's to retest the nudge in the vcore and passed practically 10 hours of it:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...0hoursmall.jpg
Bios has vcore set to 1.39375, it idles at 1.384 and loads at 1.4v. The LLC on this board is amazing. If i set 1.4v in bios it idles at 1.4 and loads at 1.408!?!Quote:
Nice work.. at only 1.38v.. whats ur vcore set to in the bios?
Just need to do a long blend test but highly confident this is stable at this now :)
Nice results there Kill a Wat :up:
Let me get a few things STRAIGHT.
1) @ Leeghoofd, I did NOT say you were blind, I DID ask "are you blind", so it was a question.
:)
2 ) @ xguntherc, I did NOT say your set up is a POS, I DID state the NF6 and NF7 Mobos are POS, not the same thing.
:rolleyes:
well 1.39 is still pretty good there man. Nice work. I've been meaning to try for something higher on my board. but I've been busy. I'll do it I swear.
and no worries humey.. maybe you just came across a little different/harsh to us then you thought you did. No worries!
@PaulyD - your pretty much stable from what I can see. Normally after 3 hours blend its all smooth sailing :up: Although I have had mine bog at 7hours 57minutes before :eek::( .
if I can run prime for over 3 hours I call it good and don't worry about it... or if I can run mark06, and vantage, and a SuperPI 16M run then I'm ok.
It's official Intel will cut prices on this CPU too !!! ow joy 316 dollars
Intel price cuts
Out goes the E8500, in the Q9650 pure folding powaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Leeghoofd mate, don't hurt feelings in here. :) Seriously, 40% price cut is a hell of a deal. My 9550 is going to the bay soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
I just posted this as some users didn't believe me that they would drop prices on this baby... My dealer confirmed this to me about 2 weeks ago. But honestly I didn't expect this drop... Intel seems to give AMD an even harder time as the 775 quad enthousiasts will go for this CPU for sure... would be nice to see a Q9650 , Phenom II comparison at 4ghz...
Anyone here with a Rampage Formula? Sorry thread is too long to read through.
I have a Rampage Formula that clokcs my Q9550 past 500 FSB. Like you I'm looking forward to picking up a 9650 too.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Thanks for the update. My brother is building a new system and that is GREAT news :yepp:
This chip is even better then the Q6600 in terms of OC, so with that in mind there is no doubt on my mind that any review trying to compare the AMD with the Q9650 will be futile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Too bad that I'm stuck a month without testing my Q9650 system but I'm pretty sure I can get it 5000Mhz stable for 24/7 use.
Hi Guys,
Decided to bench on AIR with a normal priced air cooler (below$35) to keep peoples hopes up on this amazing cpu.
All low volts for people that want 24/7 use: 1.376vcore, 1.400vtt, 1.57pll, 1.40vnb, 1.20vsb (except ram that I needed more juice to keep tight timings and 5:6 strap).
[System Setup]
CPU: Q9650@4400Mhz 489x9 1.376vcore on load and idle 1.40vtt
Mobo: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
Cooler: Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer
Ram: 4gb G.Skill Pi 9600
Video: X1300
PSU: OCZ Powerstream 520w Adj
[Setup Pics]
http://i44.tinypic.com/1zzt3ld.jpg**************http://i44.tinypic.com/2aj5s2c.jpg
[BIOS Template for Gigabyte Users]
Code:******Gigabyte EP45 UD3P******
Q9650 489 X 9 4401MHz
Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9 ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ 0 ]
CPU Frequency 4.35GHz...........................[ 489 x 9 ]
******Clock Chip Control******
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 489 ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100 ]
C.I.A 2 [Disabled]
******Advanced Clock Control******
CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 1000mv ]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 1000mv ]
CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps ]
MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 50ps ]
******DRAM Performance Control******
Performance Enhance [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)....................[ Disabled ]
(G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 333MHz ]
System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.40 ]
Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 1174 ]
DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual ]
CAS Latency Time................................[ 5 ]
tRCD............................................[ 5 ]
tRP.............................................[ 5 ]
tRAS............................................[ 15 ]
******Advanced Timing Control******
tRRD............................................[ Auto ]
tWTR............................................[ Auto ]
tWR.............................................[ Auto ]
tRFC............................................[ 52 ]
tRTP............................................[ Auto ]
Command Rate (cmd)..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel A Timing Settings******
Static tRead Value [ 7 ] ................[ 8 ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 7 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 9 ] ................[ Auto ]
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel A Driving Settings******
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ OC-1333 ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Channel B Timing Settings******
Static tRead Value [ 6 ] ................[ 8 ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 7 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 9 ] ................[ Auto ]
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel B Driving Settings******
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ OC-1333 ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
Load-Line Calibration [Enabled]
CPU Vcore [ 1.23750 ]...................[ 1.41250 ]
CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................[ 1.40 ]
CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]...................[ 1.570 ]
CPU Reference [ 0.766 ]...................[ 0.871 OR 0.886 ]
MCH Core [1.1 ]...................[ 1.400 ]
MCH Reference [0.760 ]...................[ 0.926 ]
MCH/DRAM Refernce [0.900 ]...................[ 1.150 ]
ICH I/O [1.500 ]...................[ 1.570 ]
ICH Core [1.100 ]...................[ 1.200 ]
DRAM Voltage [1.800 ]...................[ 2.300 ]
DRAM Termination [0.900 ]...................[ 1.150 ]
Channel A Ref [0.900 ]...................[ 1.150 ]
Channel B Ref [0.900 ]...................[ 1.150 ]
******Advanced BIOS Features******
CPU Multithreading..............................[ Disabled ]
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]
[Stability Test Prime95 Blend]
3 hrs Load:
http://i40.tinypic.com/2iusrhv.jpg
11 hrs Idle:
http://i40.tinypic.com/302ti04.jpg
Temps where high but I think I can squeeze 4500Mhz on air (500x9) just need a little better Air Cooler.
Hope this helps Q9650 users! :up:
You've got a good chip there. I can't get mine prime stable at 4.4GHz with voltages higher than yours. I've tried all that I can with all the GTL Refs and skews but it's not happening. Plus I've got a TRUE and I'm pushing towards the 80's!!!
Hey Pascal, the Giga UD3P is a good help too I think. Simple to use and stabilize, I had a DFI X48 with this chip that needed 1.650vtt, 1.65pll, 1.4vcore to get 470x9...Quote:
Originally Posted by pascalbrown
My temps during Prime95 small ffts are around 85oC dangerous but acceptable during the heat of the day, and I'm talking about a Sunbeam cooler ;)
The X48s are VERY tough to tune from what I've experienced anything over 4.3Ghz stable is gonna really give you a run for money unless you have a special chip/mobo/ram combo....
I think P45 will give the least headache :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Hey I like how you laid out your pc ;) I'm thinking of doing the same with mine. Although I love my TJ07 :cool:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
How would you cool that, with that cryo and what voltage tdo you figure?
I found that 503 fsb 4.52Ghz to be a sweet spot for my Q9650 and I have been running it 24/7 on air, With the GTX280sc it has rocked anything i have thrown at it, so I keep thinking about bumping it up but i am wondering why... lol but anyway i stil have been thinking about trying to bump that up once i am done playing with the cold and benching.
Thats what I'm trying to figure out I'm sure CryoZ with a good mount can hold that on Prime, but I'm only guessing, I have to see how the mount will improve Cryo-Z capabilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by systemviper
I'm thinking about 1.5 max, but then again without any testing is tough to estimate. My new mount kit will leave Poland on Monday :up:
Another thing that I will need is Watercooling on the mosfets and NB, they can get pretty hot above 5000Mhz.
Thanks mate, but that's only a test bech, it gets too much dust to have it like that for day-to-day.Quote:
Originally Posted by kill_a_wat
My current 24/7 PC is this one:
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/s...g?t=1232131236
But I have to get rid of the DFI and put the Gigabyte there...
Yea while i'm running now, I watch the mosfets and northie temps and that basically tells me when my run is done, then i jsut shut down and keep the outsidee air flowing to kool it all down.. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Having some trouble to get this cpu over 4.3ghz on a x48 Rampage Formula, what bios settings should I use ?