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10-21-2013, 05:30 AM
Handrox

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vassili

A Dutch site review site put up some benchmark numbers:
http://us.hardware.info/productinfo/...ab:testresults

I don't know if these number are already known? They haven't published the review yet, so it looks like a mistake to put it online already?

stellar numbers ... dammit!

http://hardwaredebate.com.br/forum/a...nt.php?aid=289

http://hardwaredebate.com.br/forum/a...nt.php?aid=290
10-21-2013, 05:41 AM
Chickenfeed

Ladies, any chance we can stow the bickering and personal attacks and behave like civil people?

No need to make all this stuff so personal. Unless you are a marketer or have huge stakes in a given companies future... why care so damned much? Spend more time using and enjoying said products instead of fighting about why others should and shouldn't use them...

On point, does anyone know if quiet mode / user mode is hardware selectable (ala 6970) or a software option this time?
10-21-2013, 05:49 AM
nossy23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heinz68

Radeon R9 290X Pictured, Tested, Beats Titan

Only Aliens vs. Predators 3, and Battlefield 3 tested by other site than TPU. See the pictures and graphs there also good read about the specs some rumored some true.

Posted today at TPU

Those benches were done with an overclocked R9 290X.
10-21-2013, 05:59 AM
Handrox

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Some more results R290X vs GTX 780

Attachment 131591 Attachment 131592

*The R290X is eating the GTX 780 at high resolution, these 512bits in normal resolutions should not make a big difference ... but from 1600p being decisive this ...
10-21-2013, 06:02 AM
spursindonesia

Quote:

Originally Posted by vario

Uhm, most stock intel or AMD cpu coolers are able to run at 3-6k rpms.Nobody in their right mind would just set this coolers on MAX and whine about the noise.
This whole "issue" is not an issue.People doing MAX overclocks are either using water or are just doing benching, where noise is not a problem.
Everyone else is buying cards with better (and not blower type) than reference cooling ,and also if someone is looking for a OC in day to day situatuns like gaming, theyre OCing up to a noise threshold they desire.
In any case, MAX overclock is pretty much never usable because of the inefficiency, power and loudness.I CAN go 950 on my HD6950, however i have to go MAX fan and the card uses insane power amounts, so i run it at 900 with a quiet fan ,difference of few percent isnt worth the trouble.
Whats even more interesting, is the fact that we dont really know how loud reference of this even is!

Yeah, it's kinda a premature ejaculation thing to cry wolf regarding a reference 290X on air OC performance with 100% fan speed & its loudness, while any other high end, reference cards that i know will behave similarly when their fan pushed to the limit, more or less. Any high end reference card with 100% fan speed = loud, and 290X OC potential is still to be known, nothing is set on stone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piledriver

Amazing that now with 3 nvidia threads on the main page, opening this thread to try to find new information all you still find is nvidiots and their nauseating propaganda. Beware friends if you're not a nvidiot your post history will be reviewed and exposed!

It's quite amusing, isn't it ? :yepp:
10-21-2013, 06:05 AM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by nossy23

Those benches were done with an overclocked R9 290X.

Where do you see that?
10-21-2013, 06:10 AM
overclock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handrox

Some more results R290X vs GTX 780

Attachment 131591 Attachment 131592

*The R290X is eating the GTX 780 at high resolution, these 512bits in normal resolutions should not make a big difference ... but from 1600p being decisive this ...

If the results are accurate, the 290X is far better than expected. In a few games like BF3, it will be even faster than Titan
10-21-2013, 06:29 AM
Handrox

Quote:

Originally Posted by overclock

If the results are accurate, the 290X is far better than expected. In a few games like BF3, it will be even faster than Titan

Yep. Let us hope that yes, I start thinking that the GTX 780 Ti will be able to not R290X
10-21-2013, 06:30 AM
Heinz68

Quote:

Originally Posted by nossy23

Those benches were done with an overclocked R9 290X.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

Where do you see that?

I'm wondering about the same, it says nothing about the overclock in the article
http://www.techpowerup.com/191312/ra...ats-titan.html

nossy23, any other links?
10-21-2013, 07:13 AM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by tajoh111

My AC just as the regular fan type fan. And up close, even that is too noisy. Its good to have the AC outside and not have to listen to the noise up close. I wish computer cooling could be like this. Well I guess it can in summer time, with an air duct hose attached to a vent. In winter time too, but I think that's too hardcore at this point.

Not the one in your AC condenser outside, I meant the blower in the air handler that blows the air through your ductwork ;)
10-21-2013, 09:59 AM
vario

People, we may as well discuss loudness of waterfalls and how that affects loudness of gpus because SOME people live near them ...
To teh point, there is no data for R290X loudness.So theres nothing to discuss on the matter.

As for PurePC.pl scores, i can vouch that this is pretty not biased site, which normally is pretty professional in their approach, they never do fakes also.So theres that.
As for my own speculation, i think they got AMD`s blessing on releasing those few scores (high res results only) but the testing and platform was their own.
10-21-2013, 10:54 AM
informal

New Hawaii chip looks like a monster performer :). OC and CF two of those and it will be basically untouchable.
10-21-2013, 11:12 AM
Olivon

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

Where do you see that?

I think he's right. Upper bar looks like a 290X overclocked.
I also guess that 2nd bar and third bar are 290X and 780 both@stock.

Hardware info numberz :

http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/7d9...949813a0de.jpg
10-21-2013, 11:13 AM
Ace123

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-29...mes-eyefinity/
10-21-2013, 12:31 PM
paulbagz

That wattage.

Sounds like its back to to 1200w+ PSUs for triple setups.

-PB
10-21-2013, 12:34 PM
Ace123

I guess my 1600w is good to go!
10-21-2013, 01:32 PM
nossy23

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

Where do you see that?

Benches came originally from over here:

http://videocardz.com/45753/amd-rade...ster-gtx-titan

"The leaker claims that his sample could run at 1020 MHz core clock and 1250 MHz memory clock. That would be the peak performance for the new Radeon (we don’t know yet if this is the reference clock). You may think that 1250 MHz clock for the memory is not very high, but that’s due to wider memory bus. This is in fact 5Ghz effectives peed with a bandwidth of 320 GB/s. The Radeon R9 290X will operate at lower clock (something between 800 to 900 MHz), It has dual-BIOS feature for a reason. "
10-21-2013, 03:30 PM
Heinz68

Quote:

Originally Posted by nossy23

Benches came originally from over here:

http://videocardz.com/45753/amd-rade...ster-gtx-titan

"The leaker claims that his sample could run at 1020 MHz core clock and 1250 MHz memory clock. That would be the peak performance for the new Radeon (we don?t know yet if this is the reference clock). You may think that 1250 MHz clock for the memory is not very high, but that?s due to wider memory bus. This is in fact 5Ghz effectives peed with a bandwidth of 320 GB/s. The Radeon R9 290X will operate at lower clock (something between 800 to 900 MHz), It has dual-BIOS feature for a reason. "

Thanks for the link but I can't find anywhere in the article about the R9 290X was OC vs reference clocked Titan when tested. It does does not make much sense to compare video cards like that.

Also from the link:

Quote:

Speaking of power consumption, the leaker also posted his results in this field. Supposedly AMD Radeon R9 290X would consume less power than GTX TITAN (357W vs 372W). EDIT: Since we actually found the original source and thus charts, I suggest you take a look at them and see how each card performs.

Nothing about overclock in the charts.
10-21-2013, 04:12 PM
nossy23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heinz68

Thanks for the link but I can't find anywhere in the article about the R9 290X was OC vs reference clocked Titan when tested. It does does not make much sense to compare video cards like that.

Also from the link:

Nothing about overclock in the charts.

Well he ran the benches and said "The Radeon R9 290X will operate at lower clock (something between 800 to 900 MHz)". While he ran the benchmarks at 900-1020.
10-21-2013, 04:30 PM
informal

I thought the operating clock range for stock 290x is 800-1000Mhz with clocks sittings at 940-960Mhz in vast majority of gaming workloads?
10-21-2013, 05:12 PM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by nossy23

Well he ran the benches and said "The Radeon R9 290X will operate at lower clock (something between 800 to 900 MHz)". While he ran the benchmarks at 900-1020.

The card was naturally boosting, there was no overclock on it, if he did actually have a card at the time.
10-21-2013, 05:53 PM
Heinz68

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nossy23

Well he ran the benches and said "The Radeon R9 290X will operate at lower clock (something between 800 to 900 MHz)". While he ran the benchmarks at 900-1020.

Well provided the GPU clock speed in this chart, from the same link you posted is correct, that's not overclocking.
Attachment 131604
The article you linked was edited and made up from two sources. Most likely all the benchmark come from Chinese forum posts and a lot might have been lost in Google translation.

Good news is we have ONLY few days before the real benchmark. I doubt the R9 290X is going to be faster than the 1000 USD NV Titan. Maybe true in some games and probably more so in high resolutions.
10-21-2013, 06:58 PM
prava

Maybe those charts with 2 bars for 290X mean the "quiet mode" and "uber mode"? I read somewhere that those modes define TDP limits, and thus the card will boost higher on higher tdp limits.
10-21-2013, 07:09 PM
AliG

Quote:

Originally Posted by prava

Maybe those charts with 2 bars for 290X mean the "quiet mode" and "uber mode"? I read somewhere that those modes define TDP limits, and thus the card will boost higher on higher tdp limits.

I think they mean we need an official review. Odds are one of the data sets we've seen so far is real, but right now we have results all over the place with poorly labeled graphs.

Just give it a week and I'm sure a reputable website will answer all your questions.
10-21-2013, 07:26 PM
bill_d

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliG

I think they mean we need an official review. Odds are one of the data sets we've seen so far is real, but right now we have results all over the place with poorly labeled graphs.

Just give it a week and I'm sure a reputable website will answer all your questions.

:confused:
a week isn't it Thursday ?
10-21-2013, 08:05 PM
AliG

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_d

:confused:
a week isn't it Thursday ?

Clearly I was speaking in hyperbole. My point remains the same: just wait for the real reviews
10-21-2013, 08:25 PM
Tha Last Meal

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AMD Radeon R9 290X makes the first appearance in a store

Attachment 131613

Maybe one of these cards is yours:D
10-21-2013, 08:46 PM
bill_d

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal

AMD Radeon R9 290X makes the first appearance in a store

Attachment 131613

Maybe one of these cards is yours:D

not mine i'll wait to see what a asus directcu ii top looks like and price
10-21-2013, 09:44 PM
kromosto

hahahah they forgot to put windows 8.1 compatible banner on the box :D :D :D
10-21-2013, 11:10 PM
STEvil

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuroikenshi

have you got any more pics from diff angles on the card and how you rigged it up?

I'll grab a few later when I have time. Just cut a rectangle hole into the shroud between the gpu heatsinks and taped that fan into the hole pretty much. Nothing special, just fresh air for the second gpu.

I was going to duct it with the fan laying down but got lazy.
10-22-2013, 12:03 AM
Tha Last Meal

Quote:

Originally Posted by kromosto

hahahah they forgot to put windows 8.1 compatible banner on the box :D :D :D

lol :D
10-22-2013, 12:12 AM
Tha Last Meal

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R9 290X Card will cost??

$800:eek:
$700:shakes:
$650:up:
10-22-2013, 12:33 AM
dasa

all the gtx780 at ple are $850+ other than a palit card at $739
if the first bf4 pre order prices are under $800au then id say $650-700au is in with a fair chance once normal stock appears
10-22-2013, 01:39 AM
Tuvok-LuR-

7970 -> vanilla version with 4 games
290x -> premium version with 1 game
AMD better evolve their bundles or I'll go green this time
10-22-2013, 01:44 AM
Lanek

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal

Attachment 131614

R9 290X Card will cost??

$800:eek:
$700:shakes:
$650:up:

Its again the 290x Limited BF4 edition and in pre order, dont expect got the good price with them.
10-22-2013, 04:15 AM
Heinz68

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal

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R9 290X Card will cost??

$800:eek:
$700:shakes:
$650:up:

I was hoping for much better price. Maybe around 600 USD max 650.
The XFX Radeon R9 290X Battlefield 4 Bundle $799.00 you posted is being offered by Australian retailer.
http://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?...CategoryID=468
10-22-2013, 05:55 AM
BababooeyHTJ

Guys, AMD hasn't released the official msrp. If I'm not mistaken they've released something like 3000 pre-order bundles world wide. So retailers are just gouging.

Just like with every launch that I can remember don't go by pre-order prices. I am always shocked that some of you guys who have been here for at least as long as me post those pre-order prices and go "omg xxxx is going to be so expensive". It happens on every launch without fail.
10-22-2013, 06:05 AM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ

Guys, AMD hasn't released the official msrp. If I'm not mistaken they've released something like 3000 pre-order bundles world wide. So retailers are just gouging.

Just like with every launch that I can remember don't go by pre-order prices. I am always shocked that some of you guys who have been here for at least as long as me post those pre-order prices and go "omg xxxx is going to be so expensive". It happens on every launch without fail.

This x10000

You cannot base a card's normal retail price by random retailer pre-order prices. EVER.
10-22-2013, 06:18 AM
OutSider

I never trust pre-order prices especially in my country where pre-order price of iphone 5s 16gb in some places was 1000Euro.
10-22-2013, 07:19 AM
Chickenfeed

I'm happy to see gpus bundled with decent games again for a change... Last bundled game I liked was YEARS ago when ATI had their HL2 / steam bundle. More than not included games have just no longer been included to cut costs for the board partners. Trouble is the prices didn't drop for the customers as a result more than not.

All in all AMDs aggressive push to better their developer relations has gotten Nvidia attention. Mere months ago Nvidia only offered free to play game credit... now they are at least trying to match AMDs offers.

Tell me Sony/Microsoft, is your PS4/Xbox One including a nice handful of games with purchase... I'm waiting *crickets*

yoda, "Begun the bundle wars have... '
10-22-2013, 07:31 AM
Hornet331

So anyone wana buy? :p:

http://www.casetac.com/index.php?rou...BP&language=en
10-22-2013, 08:48 AM
DefStar

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_d

not mine i'll wait to see what a asus directcu ii top looks like and price

Remember the Asus 7970 directcu ii? they didn't use a reference pcb so you couldn't flash the GHz bios onto it...and then it turned out they used "bad" voltage regulators so you couldn't give it much more voltage.

Bundle wars are cool, I just bought two 7970s and got $40 back by selling the game bundle...that's guaranteed $ back, unlike a rebate.
10-22-2013, 12:47 PM
dasa

Quote:

Originally Posted by DefStar

Remember the Asus 7970 directcu ii? they didn't use a reference pcb so you couldn't flash the GHz bios onto it...and then it turned out they used "bad" voltage regulators so you couldn't give it much more voltage.

you can increase the v a lot i had my 7970dc2t up to 1.45v with software verified with a multimeter trouble is it made no difference to clock speeds vs 1180mv it still topped out at 1204mhz and this was the typical result with this card so they bodged somthing
many of the 79#0dc2 models were totally voltage locked against software adjustment though which is a really :banana::banana::banana::banana: thing to do
the heatplate on the card only half contacted ~3 memory chips the rest it made no contact even with thick pads and tightening it wouldnt help it just didnt fit the card
10-22-2013, 03:28 PM
Heinz68

EK Water Blocks are ready shipping. Read more and pictures at TPU

Quote:

EK Debuts Water Block for AMD Radeon R9 290X
Up to four EK-FC R9 290X series water blocks can be interconnected with EK-FC Terminal which allows for hassle-free piping job. The product is available in five different variants, an aesthetic retention backplate is also available:

EK-FC R9-290X - 92,95?
EK-FC R9-290X - Acetal - 94,95?
EK-FC R9-290X - Nickel - 104,95?
EK-FC R9-290X - Acetal+Nickel - 105,95?
EK-FC R9-290X - Nickel (Original CSQ) - 105,95?
EK-FC R9-290X Backplate - Black - 26,38?

Products are readily available for pre-order through EK Webshop and Partner Reseller Network. Due to embargo on the aforementioned graphics card the shipping will commence on October 25th 2013.
10-22-2013, 04:05 PM
Heinz68

Newegg USA has R9 290X listed from 4 vendors, but no price. All listed as coming soon - auto notify.
All have Battlefield 4 game included, limited offer.

Newegg Canada has the same listing.

Edit, the R9 290 are also listed
10-22-2013, 05:07 PM
kuroikenshi

^^ that's old news from a few pages back
10-22-2013, 06:38 PM
Heinz68

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuroikenshi

^^ that's old news from a few pages back

I'm sorry did not see but if that's the case the mods should delete the post.
10-22-2013, 07:03 PM
Ace123

Little issues like that are of no consequence, Nobody expects everyone to read every single post on every single page all the time.
10-22-2013, 07:08 PM
Ace123

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4bc8922c.jpg
10-22-2013, 08:28 PM
Heinz68

I didn't know the NDA on both cards does not end at the same time. Guess because there was not much rumors about the R9 290 or I was not looking for them.
10-22-2013, 10:53 PM
Tha Last Meal

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lol :D
10-22-2013, 10:59 PM
bill_d

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heinz68

I didn't know the NDA on both cards does not end at the same time. Guess because there was not much rumors about the R9 290 or I was not looking for them.

I have not seen one rumor on the 290 other than specs :shrug:

it would be funny if all the leaked benchmarks are the 290 and not the 290x :eek:
10-23-2013, 03:03 AM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_d

I have not seen one rumor on the 290 other than specs :shrug:

it would be funny if all the leaked benchmarks are the 290 and not the 290x :eek:

A few of the very early ones basically were...
10-23-2013, 06:29 AM
Handrox

some results and comments on the R290x, in Spanish.

http://www.hardlimit.com/tarjetas-gr...xcf-76595.html
10-23-2013, 06:57 AM
boxleitnerb

He doesn't sound too impressed. The card seems to have problems clocking down in 2D. 50+ ?C in idle is quite high.
10-23-2013, 07:34 AM
Lanek

Im not sure GPU-z is compatible, it look like it make jump the GPu to 1000mhz instead of 304 in idle.. ( CCC show 45?C ) I dont speak about the temp, but about the clockspeed.
10-23-2013, 07:36 AM
boxleitnerb

But even at 304 MHz, 45?C is quite high. If the card is only generating about 15W of heat on a 440 mm2 die, where is the problem?
10-23-2013, 07:37 AM
Hornet331

probably power stats not working correctly, 1000mhz in idle will give you quite high temp. :p
10-23-2013, 07:40 AM
Lanek

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxleitnerb

But even at 304 MHz, 45?C is quite high. If the card is only generating about 15W of heat on a 440 mm2 die, where is the problem?

Low fan speed ? 2 days to wait, we will see at this time. ( huum maybe only 1 if embargo date is correct )
10-23-2013, 07:43 AM
boxleitnerb

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanek

Low fan speed ?

20%, so a good 1000 RPM. Which is quite normal I suppose.
10-23-2013, 07:48 AM
Lanek

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxleitnerb

20%, so a good 1000 RPM. Which is quite normal I suppose.

Well i wanted to check, before i remembered i have not use a single fan on a gpu since ... huum at least 13-15years ( i exagerate, i have maybe make run one of my gpu with the standard cooler one time when i was waiting my h2o block )
10-23-2013, 08:07 AM
Handrox

Lack driver, it says that exists a problem between 2D and 3D modes, and so had to turn off the aero windows. He confirms that the GPU-Z is not working and maybe causing a problem (instability)
10-23-2013, 08:49 AM
SKYMTL

The guy sounds like he doesn't know what he's doing. The GPU-Z bug was fixed already.
10-23-2013, 09:01 AM
Handrox

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKYMTL

The guy sounds like he doesn't know what he's doing. The GPU-Z bug was fixed already.

I commented to him about this FIX, thank SKYMTL
10-23-2013, 09:22 AM
Olivon

http://tof.canardpc.com/view/4a2eefc...d03b0208d4.jpg

From a famous e-tailer here in france.

290X is not so expensive, so don't be fooled by crazy pre-order prices :D
10-23-2013, 09:39 AM
asder00

Nice price! :D

New benchmarks: http://imageshack.us/a/img30/6364/x56u.png

New overdrive: http://imageshack.us/a/img708/1711/s8e8.png
10-23-2013, 10:05 AM
tbone8ty

Amd failed on the cooler again :/
10-23-2013, 10:40 AM
Zloyd

Wow 290x is shaping up to be a BEAST lets hope the real reviews are even better numbers !!!
10-23-2013, 11:10 AM
Lightman

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbone8ty

Amd failed on the cooler again :/

How about:
- AMD made quiet fan profile for idle and load,
- AMD on-die temp sensor is not calibrated,
- someone is testing in the middle of desert mid-day,
- someone is testing in uATX case with no fans,
- and so on :D

Let's wait for reviews and then decide to buy stock or custom solution from AMD partners.
10-23-2013, 11:16 AM
kromosto

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbone8ty

Amd failed on the cooler again :/

Too early to talk i think. But if they do i will laugh hard.

Sent from my SM-N9000Q using Tapatalk
10-23-2013, 11:30 AM
tajoh111

If the price is 550 dollar, honestly, what ever Nvidia does, their high end is going to be priced uncompetitively. Nvidia needs to discontinue their regular gtx 780 line and only sell OC editions at the same price as 290x, while additionally if Nvidia wants to price their gtx 780 ti at 650 or more, it better perform atleast 10 percent better.

However the noise and wattage concern me. Particularly if I want to overclock this for gaming.
10-23-2013, 12:44 PM
Sparky

I couldn't care less if it idles at 50C, it won't hurt anything doing so, and if it is because they make the fan barely spin at idle then that's just fine. I mean, really, who cares if it idles 35C or 50C? Load is where the temp matters more, and at idle silence is more important.

At the same time, part of me also doesn't care too much since I watercool anyway :p: And then in the grand scheme of things it really doesn't affect me at all as the odds of me buying a new card anytime soon is next to nothing as my 7950 is doing just fine :D
10-23-2013, 12:50 PM
paulbagz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal

Attachment 131623

lol :D

Why couldn't they have their Gene blocks ready prior to release lol

-PB
10-23-2013, 12:58 PM
Jamesrt2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by kromosto

Too early to talk i think. But if they do i will laugh hard.

Sent from my SM-N9000Q using Tapatalk

I've had only amd/ati since my 6600gtx is nvidias mid/high end generally got a better cooler/quieter? It's the only fault I have of my card (7870 ATM)

(Not starting a flame war I just don't read reviews)
10-23-2013, 01:08 PM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxleitnerb

But even at 304 MHz, 45?C is quite high. If the card is only generating about 15W of heat on a 440 mm2 die, where is the problem?

My GTX480 at idle, 50mhz core / 135mhz mem .962v, is at ~50-52C with 45% fan speed and ambient of ~28.5C.
10-23-2013, 01:15 PM
[XC] Oj101

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2448/oap1.png

100 MHz overclock on the GPU, about the same score as a GeForce GTX 780 at 1250 MHz - pretty damn good going.
10-23-2013, 01:36 PM
Evantaur

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

My GTX480 at idle, 50mhz core / 135mhz mem .962v, is at ~50-52C with 45% fan speed and ambient of ~28.5C.

i used to heat my house with one of those, that thing is a furnace when under 100% load :hehe:
10-23-2013, 01:47 PM
Olivon

Quote:

Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101

[/IMG]http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2448/oap1.png[/IMG]

100 MHz overclock on the GPU, about the same score as a GeForce GTX 780 at 1250 MHz - pretty damn good going.

Thermi 2.0 ? :confused:
10-23-2013, 02:01 PM
FlanK3r

Few hours...Im looking forward for Computerbase, Hardwarecanucks, Pctuning, Techpowerup, Guru3D, Tomshardware and few others reviews.
10-23-2013, 02:06 PM
Handrox

AMD Radeon R9 290X Video Card Review - AMD is launching the Radeon R9 290X today. The R9 290X represents AMD's fastest single-GPU video card ever produced. It is priced to be less expensive than the GeForce GTX 780, but packs a punch on the level of GTX TITAN. We look at performance, the two BIOS mode options, and even some 4K gaming.

This review will be published at 11:01PM CST tonight.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1787400
10-23-2013, 02:07 PM
informal

IMO Techpowerup is hands down the best. The rest Flanker has listed are not bad either :).
10-23-2013, 02:17 PM
FlanK3r

It will be more. If are CPUs launched, Im reading all reviews aroudn the world. This is my fetish since Phenom 65nm Agena time. So for one CPU product Im reading around 30-50 reviews in next 14 days :). Sometimes Im downloading reviews to my HDD :). And in last years Im finding all interesting and performance chips to my collection - next fetish :D. From GPU part I give up, because its very time consumed (I was only reading 10-12h per day reviews and many days). For GPUs now maybe only 10 reviews :)
10-23-2013, 02:42 PM
AliG

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handrox

AMD Radeon R9 290X Video Card Review - AMD is launching the Radeon R9 290X today. The R9 290X represents AMD's fastest single-GPU video card ever produced. It is priced to be less expensive than the GeForce GTX 780, but packs a punch on the level of GTX TITAN. We look at performance, the two BIOS mode options, and even some 4K gaming.

This review will be published at 11:01PM CST tonight.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1787400

So do you think we can interpret that to mean that it is on equal footing? Or rather just fancy wording to entice people to read the review
10-23-2013, 02:45 PM
tajoh111

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

IMO Techpowerup is hands down the best. The rest Flanker has listed are not bad either :).

I would have to agree recently. Too many website are shrinking their testing suite to 6 titles. Particularly when results can be lop-sided for one game or two, its really skews the overall results. They seem to have the most comprehensive power testing too.

I like to mix in hardware canucks because I know they record in game results rather than a canned benchmark and Hardocp too for their unique testing.

I am wondering, since they are testing 4k results, did AMD give every tester a 4k screen?
10-23-2013, 03:13 PM
Heinz68

Quote:

Originally Posted by tajoh111

If the price is 550 dollar, honestly, what ever Nvidia does, their high end is going to be priced uncompetitively. Nvidia needs to discontinue their regular gtx 780 line and only sell OC editions at the same price as 290x, while additionally if Nvidia wants to price their gtx 780 ti at 650 or more, it better perform atleast 10 percent better.

However the noise and wattage concern me. Particularly if I want to overclock this for gaming.

If the R9 290X price is 550 USD and the rumored benchmarks are true, it sounds as very good deal. If that's true Nvidia will have to reduce few prices because there is also R9 290 coming next week.

If GTX 780 Ti is at least 10% faster than R9 290X, than it's going to be about as much faster than the NV Titan (if the rumored R9 290X benches are true). That's going to make some Titan owners not too happy,( specially the more recent buyers). Even many recent GTX 780 buyers are not going to be too happy I still see the price at newegg $660 ( most prices even higher).

Well there are way too many if and speculations above, good we have only about 6 hours to wait to find the true.

As per your overclocking concerns, I believe ALL cards are noise to run over clocked on reference air cooler heat sinks, but I did not have any Nvidia card card recently so anybody can correct me if I'm wrong. :)
10-23-2013, 03:24 PM
chispy

Looking forward to the reviews as Flanker point it out , hopefully at 12:01am I can get hold of one or two R9 290X online , f5f5f5f5f5f5f5 all over again starts at 12:01am :rofl:
10-23-2013, 03:34 PM
iddqd

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbone8ty

Amd failed on the cooler again :/

You mean that thing that will go in the garbage, to be immediately replaced by a waterblock?
10-23-2013, 03:51 PM
BababooeyHTJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by tajoh111

I would have to agree recently. Too many website are shrinking their testing suite to 6 titles. Particularly when results can be lop-sided for one game or two, its really skews the overall results. They seem to have the most comprehensive power testing too.

I have quite a few gripes with TPU. They use older drivers in their reviews a lot of the time. Also, every benchmark is a time demo. I've not once ever seen TPU ever mention having an issue in game. I consider Wizzard to be the worst offender when it comes to judging a video card by nothing other than average framerate. Its one of the reasons that microstutter was swept under the rug for so long.

I like what Wizzard does. Its nice to see a large suite of games but I can't take much from the review due to the testing methodology.

Quote:

I like to mix in hardware canucks because I know they record in game results rather than a canned benchmark and Hardocp too for their unique testing.

[H] uses too few games for me to bother with their reviews tbh. I do agree that Skymtl's reviews over on Hardware Canucks are my favorite. I'm also glad to see that he is now doing their cpu reviews and using his testing methodology. I'm very happy to see that.

I'm also very fond of the tech report and their emphasis on smoothness. I am so happy that someone decided to start that trend. Thats bought about some big changes recently.
10-23-2013, 04:01 PM
Piledriver

techreport fan. Very professional reviews and articles.
10-23-2013, 04:28 PM
kadozer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky

I couldn't care less if it idles at 50C, it won't hurt anything doing so, and if it is because they make the fan barely spin at idle then that's just fine. I mean, really, who cares if it idles 35C or 50C? Load is where the temp matters more, and at idle silence is more important.

At the same time, part of me also doesn't care too much since I watercool anyway :p: And then in the grand scheme of things it really doesn't affect me at all as the odds of me buying a new card anytime soon is next to nothing as my 7950 is doing just fine :D

Here here. Got my headphones on while I game gonna be cranking up. Heater in winter is a nice bonus!
10-23-2013, 04:46 PM
tajoh111

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heinz68

If the R9 290X price is 550 USD and the rumored benchmarks are true, it sounds as very good deal. If that's true Nvidia will have to reduce few prices because there is also R9 290 coming next week.

If GTX 780 Ti is at least 10% faster than R9 290X, than it's going to be about as much faster than the NV Titan (if the rumored R9 290X benches are true). That's going to make some Titan owners not too happy,( specially the more recent buyers). Even many recent GTX 780 buyers are not going to be too happy I still see the price at newegg $660 ( most prices even higher).

Well there are way too many if and speculations above, good we have only about 6 hours to wait to find the true.

As per your overclocking concerns, I believe ALL cards are noise to run over clocked on reference air cooler heat sinks, but I did not have any Nvidia card card recently so anybody can correct me if I'm wrong. :)

Titan owners should be mad at themselves for buying a 1000 dollar card. No one forced them to buy it and even cards like gtx 780 classifieds which can be 10% faster in some reviews are already 699.

I wish no one bought Titan in the first place and there was a price drop in place already. People buying 1000 dollar single GPU videocards sends a bad message to videocards makers as I have said earlier.

I think anyone from a mile a way should have known titan was a bad long term investment. That is of course unless they really need 6gb of memory and uncrippled DP. In addition, I would hope the people who bought titan have a lot of disposable income to the point where such a purchase doesn't cause them that much grief.
10-23-2013, 04:49 PM
Heinz68

What about AnandTech reviews, nobody likes them?
10-23-2013, 05:15 PM
Heinz68

Quote:

Originally Posted by tajoh111

Titan owners should be mad at themselves for buying a 1000 dollar card. No one forced them to buy it and even cards like gtx 780 classifieds which can be 10% faster in some reviews are already 699.

I wish no one bought Titan in the first place and there was a price drop in place already. People buying 1000 dollar single GPU videocards sends a bad message to videocards makers as I have said earlier.

I think anyone from a mile a way should have known titan was a bad long term investment. That is of course unless they really need 6gb of memory and uncrippled DP. In addition, I would hope the people who bought titan have a lot of disposable income to the point where such a purchase doesn't cause them that much grief.

Well I did not say with whom they're going to be not happy. And I know for some people $1000 is not real money so they could not care less.
I just hope all the rumors are true and we will see some price reductions, again thanks to AMD.
10-23-2013, 05:16 PM
informal

AT is now just "ok" I suppose. It's their own fault.
10-23-2013, 05:33 PM
DefStar

Pretty exciting...I hope my two 7970s hold their own significantly since I spent my R9 290x money on them instead of waiting. If the price is $550 I will be impressed (and wish I waited), but I doubt it will be.
10-23-2013, 05:49 PM
trinibwoy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heinz68

What about AnandTech reviews, nobody likes them?

Their benchmark reviews are pretty mediocre. Techreport or Hardware.fr for performance reviews. Anandtech for architecture discussion and analysis.
10-23-2013, 06:15 PM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by trinibwoy

Anandtech for architecture discussion and analysis.

Realworldtech is better at that, though they only do cpu stuff.
10-23-2013, 06:18 PM
hurleybird

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heinz68

What about AnandTech reviews, nobody likes them?

I like them, but I like TR more.
10-23-2013, 06:30 PM
bamtan2

techreport and pcper
10-23-2013, 06:46 PM
MaddMuppet

Bugger. These are NZ $1399. I guess that counts me out. :-( $300 more than the GTX780.

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