loadline calibration been fixed?? and where can i get a newer bios, i curently have f7d
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loadline calibration been fixed?? and where can i get a newer bios, i curently have f7d
How about this one, could get if for 581 SFR: http://www.1000ordi.ch/docs/30161_en.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
Or this one, cheaper, 499 SFR: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21124
not yet available, I guess...Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
don't waste good money on that kind of PSUs unless you're gonna put 3 cards inside the case and half a dozen drives and a truckload of USB devices. One 750W unit is more than enough, and cheaper!!Quote:
Originally Posted by 2DIFF
Don't worry...;) was just about that single 12V rail up to 90Amp. Question to you please: do you get your HD3870 clocks with the original bios, and how do you cool the card? thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
ok, I get it :) I have 60A single-rail. You think I'll have problems feeding one of the newest Quads? don't think so :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 2DIFF
Anyway, about the 3870. Stock clocks are 800/1200 since it's an Extreme/PCS version with Zerotherm cooler thing (this one: http://www.powercolor.com/Global/pro...roductID=1632). It says 1170Mhz for the memory clock but mine's at 1200... don't ask me why...
The zerotherm solution is quite effective. I got 30ºC idle on vista 64 desktop and 45ºC full load.
I didn't flashed the unlocked BIOS, so the vcore is locked at 864Mhz.
I realised that my sig was not accurate about the 3870 clocks. Fixed now.
F7 surface yet?...if y'all don't know...there is a new version of Prime95 available, 26.6 or something.
HiQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Am I concerned if I have a Q6600 and the X38T-DQ6 rev1.1 ?
Thx
the X38T is a whole other ballpark as the X38 (ddr3 vs ddr2)
The ddr2 version gets a lot more updates then the ddr3 version...
oki, thx Hornet331, I'll see a bit later if its necessary or not to flash it...
What is to think about 480 fsb on air (9500led) with that Q6600? I have 518(same air) with an e6600, but it's maxscreen.
Something else, maybe you all noticed: I try to find the right spot to pencil-mod my mobo 'cuz it has such a Vdroop !! 0.08.... too bad :/
:rofl: just plain wrong...Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
the only voltages that a mobo supply to the cpu are 12V and 3.3V, but the 3.3V is only needed during the power up of the processor...
so the only relevant voltage/rail for the cpu is 12V.
if you dont belive me:
VRD 11:
http://download.intel.com/design/pro...s/31321402.pdf
480 should be reachabel (450 is possible with no voltage increase for MCH or fsb)Quote:
Originally Posted by ToyTen
yeah i also dislike the vdroop on this board, theres an option in the bios that would solve the problem if it would work (loadline calibration). I hope the next bios provides a working solution.
3.3V not enough current => cold boot problems when overclock ... 3.3 also for memo + and mobo. Not all mobos are made by Intel specs ... Intel fanboy :D. Also you should know that on some mainboards +5V also powers the CPU.
Intel sucks at mobos, once as I remember I had a lot of intel 965 mobos all with lots of problems, had to RMA the whole lot.
I think that X38-DQ6 has a different design and power managemant than Intel's X38 mobos specifications.
On this mobo +12 V rail is supplementary for the CPU, to achive the required power for the extreme CPU's, so the main power for the CPU is still +3,3 and +5V (I do not know the percentage). Read the manual if you don't belive me.
wtf... do even you know that the VRD 11.x specification is?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
Its universal specification for every s775 mobo... not just intel mobos... :rofl:
if intel wouldn't release this spec noone could build motherboards with s775, cause noone would know what voltages needed to supplied... it might be true that for some old mobos the 5V line has deliverd the power for the cpu, but for every s775 thats not the case. (see VDR11.x)
The "design" of the DQ6 may be different, but the basis on what this design is build is not different from any other X38/P35 or even any P965 Board that is build according to the VDR 11.x spec. Do you really think it makes any difference if you use 12 phases or 8 phases... the basics are the same.... also the power managemant implementation is exactly the same on every board, or how the hell you think the board knows what voltage the cpu requiers if the board cant interpret the signals coming from the cpu... :ROTF:
Also in the Manual theres nothing stated that the cpu uses 3,3V or 5,0V, the only thing that is mentioned (page 24) that it is recommended to use a PSU with a 8pin (2x4 pin) 12V EATX connector (ops.. 12V, not 3,3V or 5V) if you use an extreme edition processor.
But belive what you want, you seem to know everything better, even better than intel themself. :ROTF:
But i have a problem when you spread misinformation and tell people to buy stuff that doesnt change one thing. Voltage drops dont get better just from buying a psu with 1kW or more. :down:
Its true that when you oc you need a good an stable psu and a PSU that is on its limit can cause more serious drops, but 1kW is beyoned usefullness, if you dont run a system with a highend (oced) quad and quad sli/ quad fire.
I have a 600W PSU (Zalman ZM600 HP-600) and the psu has hardly any drops under load... even with an oced quad... and my PSU only has 12A per 12V rail (quadrail).
if you really want to get solid informations about PSUs visit: http://www.jonnyguru.com/ page. He also posts here on the board and his reviews are first class.
I have bought my zalman psu after doing some research and after i have read jonnys review i pulled the trigger and till now i havent regreted it.
I think that you must shut up and understand how power in a computer works and do some calculations with this little overclock PSU calculator:
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/p...ulatorlite.jsp
To overclock a quad QX9650, at 3600 (and the CPU voltage to remain constant not vdrops just 1.25V), with an 8800GTX, a tv tunner, 3hdd, .... you need at least 1000W to run the system at 90% load.
More overclock juise, more power ...
And you can laugh as long as you want ... I'm not gonna argue with you anymore, believe what ever you want.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
god your spread so much FUD, it isnt even funny any more... are you working for gigabyte or a PSU company?
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/13375/15
here you go Quad extreme X6850 with 8800gtx less then 290W at socket! Which means that if you assume that the PSU has an effenciy of 80% the actual consumption of the system would be ~230W....
and i laught even more at you... you pretend to know stuff from what you have no clue and mock yourself...
to end this once and for all with your own link to the PSU calculator with better sepc than you have provided:
DUN DUN DUN 584W
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6...tiontn5.th.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9...ion2il1.th.jpg
Sorry guys for crapping this thread, but i cant stand it when somone recommends stuff which is totally unnessary. I hope you can forgive me. :)
Speaking of voltages, etc on this board (X38T)...I was pushing mine this morning to get up over 4 Ghz and as I was adjusting the voltages they started getting out of control. I set Vcore to 1.75 and I got it to boot into windows and Everest said Vcore 2.05!!! Everest seems to have been correct all the way up before this, so I'm not questioning its accuracy (too much)...my Vdimm also jumped from 2.00 set in bios to 2.10v...I wonder if this is a bios bug or a limitation on the power supply section of the board. Will verify these numbers with my Fluke if someone can tell me where on this board the test point to measure is....
BTW ignore my previous clock skew posts, since I had some of the memory subtimings way out of line anyway. That Anandtech article helped me understand a lot more about this board, and I finally got my memory to run at its rated speed using the settings in that article. My first OC rig, so it has been a learning experience.
Oh and prime locked up in about 3 seconds at 4 Ghz, but with the huge variations on the voltage I didnt want to increase it anymore in the bios...but I DID get a screenie off of Everest first :D
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...epick/4ghz.png
hi,
did anyone find a little trick or bios update to increase ram above 1066 on a x38-dq6...i remember someone saying that a fix was on its way to make this easier.
im using dominator pc-8500 at 1066 ...but i bought this ram and motherboard thinking i could over clock it to higher rates with ease...
thanks for any help
:)
Anyway all that I've wanted to say that the best PSU is the one that gives more current for the CPU, and not to be forced to rise the voltage to achive the necessary power when under full load. More voltage means higher temperatures, and risk to damage the CPU.
Also a part of that current goes to the other devices, so the cpu still has less current and needs a rise of the cpu voltage, but is lower on a higher current PSU ...
The problem is that if there is a PSU that gives enough current it gives also more power than necessary (because of that 12V rails, example 12*90Amps=1080Watts)... That's why for better overclock is better higher power PSU.
For a normal user with a little oveclocking skills, not enthusiast overclocker, It will be good an 700-850W PSU, but to have a good +5V and +3,3 amperage and at least 40Amps on 12V single rail.
im running 1066 with ease with a 4gb set......but 1100mhz is a bit tough.
GAR manual or auto timings ?
yeah its tough to get past 1066.
i just downloaded everest to compare memory benchmarks with isepick above who is running ddr3 1600mhz 800 x2 ) 7 7 7 20.
im running lower at 1066mhz ddr2 (dom pc8500 x2 ) standard performance enhanced
at apparently lower timings 5 5 5 10 (static tread 7) timings
everest says:
me=8378 read (10023 for isepick)
me=3226 write (7140 more than double ???? )
me=59.3 latency (53.4 - hey you!! how?? haha)
i would have thought i would at least get lower latencies? being as though my timings are lower?:/
now i just lowered my timings ..cause im very upset. haha:) >:
5 5 4 9 (static 7 and standard performance)
and i get
me=read 8437
me=write 3087 (weird why did this go lower than my last score :/?)
me=latency 58.5 ( hmm still not better than ddr3)
im using a q6600 at 3.2ghz
fsb 400 with 2.66d and x8
x38 dq6 f7h
dominator pc8500
freqs:)
and the other timings ? auto or manual ?Quote:
Originally Posted by freqy
latency settings for the ram during everest tests
f7h bios reads from top to bottom in advanced timing control
3 3 6 42 3 7 5 2t
>>>
o.k next test turbo enhance 5 5 5 10
read. 8417
write 3043
latency 58.9
hmm ...not as good as my 5 5 5 4 9 .
why on earth would my 'write' score go down when i reduce the latencies or use turbo??
im not sure which setting to use now :/
*****
i just reset to 5 5 5 10 standard to retest and the write is at 3020 now so everest seems to have a slight fluctuation in readings.
each time i hit report on 'write' the score goes down each time i test in succession - i think i need to purge the ram each time perhaps. it went down to 2997 and back up to 3033.
i am using the free copy everest home edition.
uhnn..... so wrong again... the best PSU is not that, that give the highes current... The best PSU is that, that gives a stabel and ripple free voltage at a given current. You cant do any thing with a PSU that can give 60 amps over a line, but that line drops or ripples like mad...Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
i dont know what you mean by that... but if you allude to the voltagedrop that occours while the cpu is loaded, that has nothing to do with the PSU... you can have a 100amps 12V line and the drop would still be there... i allready have pointed that out several post ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
Also you dont raise the voltage ,while overclocking, to give the cpu enough power... the raise in voltege, while ocing, is because at higer frequencies the signals inside the cpu get disordered. With higher voltage you can compensate that effect, you artificially increase the peaks of the signals (0 and 1). But this increased voltage also produces more heat and has other side effects, like faster ageing of the processor or electron migration. (sudden death northwood syndrome)
correctQuote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
uhn... if other devices affect the the voltage of your cpu than either your mobo is going byebye or your PSU is to weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
I agree that a to small PSU can have problems with a fully load system, especialy with highend graphic cards. But if your PSU is not powerfull enough to power your system no voltage rise will make your system stabel. So i dont really understand what you want to say with that statement.
Also nowaday we have multirail PSUs, usually they are dual rails, better PSU have more rails(4 or even more). Usually the CPU has its own rail and the gfx has the other line so they cant affect each other.
wrong, even a 2kW PSU wont give more current to the cpu, as the cpu needs. The only effect you have is that the PSU is running in the partial load zone. In this zone PSUs are very inefficent and you waste a lot of power... CO2 comes to mind. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
oh, i can prove you otherwise. There are enthusiast ocers out there that oc with a 550W power supply (but its more out of misery than fun :p)Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
But i agree. An avarage ocer dosen't need more than a 850W supply even with SLI.
hmm everest memory bench isnt really that reliable. Did you have any apps running in the background?Quote:
Originally Posted by freqy
Best thing to do while benching -> disable every unnecessary task in the taskmanger.
very strange ...Quote:
Originally Posted by freqy
Try
ACT to ACT Delay 4
Rank Write To READ Delay [Auto]
Write To Precharge Delay 9
Refresh to ACT Delay 42
Read to Precharge Delay 9
Static tRead Value 7
Static tRead Phase Adjust [Auto]
Command Rate(CMD) 2
hi thanks.
I just had everest running. task manager seemed very very quiet just before i started.
christTI just tried your settings with a 5 5 5 10 standard performance
and
read 8358
write 3003
latency 60.3
im very impressed with the DDR3 on the previous page i thgought ddr3 was not as quick latency wise as ddr2 ( twas the reason i bought ddr2)
that ddr3 is writing twice as quick as mine .....wow ......o.k hes at 4ghz overclock. but still ..amazing readings.
and with 7 7 7 20 the latency readings from everest are lower than my ddr2 5 5 4 9 as well. double wow.
wonder what other people get with the same frequencies i'm running? my OS xp sp2 is running sweet
? maybe its just because he's at 4ghzcpu which didnt prime but hay ..managed to run everest all the same.
thanks for your help guys
Do you have vista ? If yes, disable superfetch service :)Quote:
Originally Posted by freqy
no, he runs win xp sp2. You just quoted it. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
I run vista, an I always have 7-8MB on Write ...
aww nooo, so my memory is not happy. 3mb ..less than half it should be?
maybe ..its because i have virtual ram enabled or something similar?
yeah im on xp sp2 :)
Freqy: It's not the 4ghz, thats just the 10x multi. The 4.00B strap @400 fsb (and various subtimings) is what got me that, and like I said that was totally unstable, though the problem isnt the memory there, I can drop it to 9x and prime all day, so the cpu is whats holding me back a bit, or the bios,or my inept skillz ;)
DDR3 is hideously expensive at the moment, but I do like the how it performs. Oh and the latencies are higher, but the memory overall is moving at a faster rate (mhz)...if DDR3 didn't do at least a little better than ddr2 then they couldnt get the US$400+ they charge for 2 gb :) BTW, that is the stock timings and speed for my ram, I can get around 1700 (via 425 fsb), but I need to play with some of the timings a bit more to get it 100% stable
I didn't post that shot to brag about the mem, just to show I could get into XP @ 4 Ghz :D
What virtual ram ? Maybe virtual drive in memory or something but I don't belive that :) Well do you have something like that ?Quote:
Originally Posted by freqy
i just found a copy of everest ultimate this one reads :
7245 MB/s write speed.
8807MB/s Read speed
8002 MB/s copy speed.
57.1 latency
1066- 5 5 4 9 cr2 score 23037 cpu queen .
cpu photoworxx score 38236
cpu zlib 84326 kb/s
cpu aes 23851
fpu julia 24135
fpu mandel 11626
fpu sinjulia 17821
5 5 4 9 timings on standard performance. prime stable
seems a allot better . thanks for pointing out that it was a strange reading guys.
least i can sleep a little better now. although i have just drank 3 cups of coffee thinking "no sleep" until i knew what was up .:) haha i love computers.
peace.
hi
i meant the paging file thingy.. 'virtual memory' yeah in performance options in xp...i thought it might have slowed my test down
but all seems o.k now (.im using a 1 month demo of ultimate ediition )
I didnt think you were braging ' isepick ' i think its awesome when people go faster ......for many reasons: one its great for them and two : i look forward to buying a simlar system when i can afford it :)
(also makes me get more involved as wel.l i have everest woo hoo:) many thanks for the inspiration hope my memory readings are of help to you.
peace:)
he means the virtual memory aka paging file.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
And he better has it enabled, i he runs out of memory we will get a nice surprise in form of a crawling system. :p:
anyways good to here that it was just everest, try to find another software that can do the same tests to double/crosscheck. You can use sandra for the most syntetic test, thought the resullts are not directly comparable you see if one program fools you. :up:
Oh my god :shocked:
http://www.techpowerup.com/?48781
Freqy: I know you didnt imply I was bragging, I didnt take it as that :) I may have been slightly bragging about the 4 ghz part tho ;). I try to post my observations on things as objectively as possible, although my conclusions may be wrong. For example I did observe a huge voltage jump, but the reason why this happened could have nothing to do with my thoughts on the matter, and it could be anything from the voltage regulator not working right at those voltages to a messed up bios to Everest itself being incorrect, although Everest is the only program I've found to correctly read all the info of my setup (afaik anyway, haven't really tried Sandra yet).
And this place is definitely here to help us learn from each other, I could never have gotten so far with this motherboard were it not for this thread. Now if I could just get this thing stable @ 4ghz...;)
Peace
What are the temps of the cpu under full load (two orthos running)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Isepick
@ 4 ghz I dont have time for the temps to rise before it freezes/reboots...here's a shot of last night's run. Note that I relaxed the mem timings a bit because I put in another 2gb kit of ram (now have 4x1 gb), prime was stable for 8.5 hours before I stopped it this morning to drop my mem timings down to 7-7-7-20...average temp on the run was 60-63C across all the cores when in the small ffts.
BTW: I hope this shows those of you who don't think you can get 4x1gb to run on this board, that it is possible. Priming @ stock speeds now for my ram, so we shall see if I can get similar timings with 4gb as I do with 2
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...sb4gb88821.jpg
Here is a good power test consumtion, for Q6600 CPu overclocked beyond 3Ghz, on a Gigabyte mobo and a PC Power & Cooling 750 Watt Quad Silencer :)
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1172&pageID=3988
Isepick: What PSU ?
Cooler Master Real Power Pro 1kw RS-A00-EMBA (came with my Stacker 830 case for $300 from Newegg). My only dislike is that it is not modular. Spec sheet for it is here: http://www.coolermaster.com/uploads/...2420648771.pdf
Oh, when I was putting in the other 2gb kit last night I noticed the extra 4 pin molex plug to the motherboard had come off...I dont know if that happened while I was installing the extra mem or before that. May try that 4 ghz again today, just to be sure, because that would defnitely cause some things to not work right at higher speeds.
Priming at 1.5 hours so far at 7-7-7-20 and 4x1gb ram...may shut that down to try the 4 ghz again and run a long prime tonight when I get it dialed in a bit more...
Some results at this day: Everest: http://images3.hiboox.com/vignettes/0108/kmunrdh2.png
Spi1M: http://images3.hiboox.com/vignettes/0108/2lj3esxv.png
Spi32M:
http://images3.hiboox.com/vignettes/0108/1im4vbf4.png
I use the original Bios(F4) I got when I bought this board, trying the F5j and the F3i without enhancements. The mobo's rev is 1.1
My ram (OCz) chips are Micron D9GTN certified@533Mhz cas7 1,5v
last in date: http://images3.hiboox.com/vignettes/0108/9dk00h96.png
As I see it in that pdf it is modular ... 6x18Amps , 12V rails ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Isepick
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
That's the best one I've heard in years
My bad, I thought modular meant where you could choose which plugs actually plug into the power supply, and eliminate unneccessary cables out of the case, and believe me, routing the cables from this octupus is annoying at best ;)
Update on the 4ghz, set bios voltage to 1.7v, actual turned out to be 1.892 (as measured in PC health status in bios), got into xp, started prime, and while it didnt lock up, temps shot straight to 78C, so I shut it down asap...stupid voltage regulators/bios....any bios for me over F4a goes into endless reboot unless I have just 1 stick of ram installed until I get into the bios to adjust...which means I'd have to do that everytime I had a failed overclock, and hope it doesnt decide to continually reboot anyway.
ToyTen: nice fsb...I think you can run the memory at a 1T commmand rate at those speeds without a problem...just a thought...
well your right, modular means exectly what you just have described. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Isepick
hmm very strange that you board overvolts so strong. Normally most boards undervolt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isepick
Thx, 1T Command Rate ? just like that ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Isepick
Anyway, I can try this.
Yeah ~aoe~, he's very happy... :)
That's modular cable management ... And the +12V schematics it's modular (The PSU has 6x+12V modules). I thought that's what you are reffering to ...
Maybe is because that PSU has 40Amps on +3.3 and +5V ? You're on the other side :D now have a vraise :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Isepick
I saw many strange things in my life so ... I'm not saying anything because It will bother Hornet331 :) .
Just try to set lower voltages in bios, starting by setting the normal voltage of the CPU, and then overclock and tell me if it stayes stable under full load :)
Hornet331: It does undervolt at any setting below that. I think there is a problem with voltage regulator overcorrecting at that point...not sure, maybe a bios bug though. Until Gigabyte releases a bios that doesnt default to 1333 on the memory though, I probably won't find out, or unless they do a non-beta release...my Vdimm is also jumpinng around a bit from 2.00 set in bios (+ .50) to 2.10. memory is slightly warm to the touch while priming, so I am not too concerned...
ToyTen: most recommendations I've seen for ddr3 usually have a 1T cr, until you start overclocking the ram...funny that OCZ doesnt list their subtimings at all, you may be able to ask in their forums for correct subtimings if you run into problems though...and of course if 1T is not stable for you, then 2T it is :)
ChrissTi: Any lower voltages and Prime locks up immediately, 1.65v is the most I can set it at, the settings start going by .05v after that (1.70,1.75, etc.)
whats the vdrop at 1.65 when running Prime ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Isepick
No I've sorted out my FSB "problems". :D
I was just too shy with the vcore :rofl:
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3...8cl5mc3.th.jpg
Between .02 and .08 when priming @ 1.65...about normal for this board at most settings below this too.
It seems that you have a little problem. Do you have another PSU with a single higher Amperage +12V rail ? You should do a test, if you have one, and see whats happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isepick
When I try 1T CR, cpu-z doesn't "apply" it, and seeing that Everest says I have it when I do not, I don't know what to think....Quote:
Originally Posted by Isepick
Okey...
Problems problems problems...
I have been running my pc for 5 days, 5 days uptime, with folding@home, and hevay program. Stable as rock. I installed a program that needs and reboot.
I reboot, and bam! it reboots, and when it has come half way trught post, right after the bios av counted up all my memory (2x1gb atm) it shuts down and restarts with default settings. (Overclocking failed protection kicked in)
Any suggestions to fix this problem. Maybe i just will get an asus motherboard.
1.48v to be just 200 or so Mhz higher? That's not very efficient, dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevke
Also, using it with 6 multiplier is giving slippers to your CPU when he could be using running shoes. Don't do that, man.
that's just your good old (cold) boot bug saying hello. I've solved that problem myself upgrading to a stronger PSU, but I think we'll never know exactly what's causing it... probably the CPU not getting enough volts at boot from the motherboard...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornel
wait a sec... you have a 6850! that's a 3Ghz processor! why are you 'under-megahertzing' your CPU, dude?Quote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
I got the 1000watt Enermax PSU...Quote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
I'm getting the asus board now...
When are we getting a new final bios? this is sad
I reckon there up to something ,and I think it could be the x48 ,maybe they dont want to give us something .
EIST is activated, the CPU is clocked @3.8GHz :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
verify it with spi, just try the same timings and just alter the command rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToyTen
If spi is slower with when 2T is eneabled you know it works and cpu-z just cant read it. :up:
really strange behaviour, vdimm is also strange that it jumps so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isepick
did you disable all the advance feature of the cpu (C1E,EIST,NXbit etc.)
do you have any chance to measure the Vcc with a DMM?
geht doch. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by stevke
lol!! damn EIST!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by stevke
Yep, it works allright, as you said :clap: , I gain like 200Mo in bandwidth in everest cache and memory bench. here is the max I got yet. Pretty cool knowing I payed less then 120€ for 2Gigs :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
http://images3.hiboox.com/vignettes/0208/h1r38vs2.png
And there is-finally- only Everest reading it correctly. neither cpu-z nor memset 3.4
not bad, gratz. :up:
Hornet331, I do have all that disabled, but I will double check on next reboot. I have a nice Fluke 189 DMM, but I am not sure where the points on the board are that I need to measure. If you (or anyone else) can point me in the right direction I'll be happy to take measurements.
just got this board (ddr2) but im waiting for a TRUE cooler and a gigabyte 800W before i start to OC. got a HOT x3210 B3 that im gonna torture a bit. so, what is normaly max fsb on a quad? and what is max on a DC?
55 pages is to much to read:)
F7 final on it's way, folks - looks like a magic one with all working ;)
F5H still best here, the only one could run 470fsb and 2.66 dev with PL6
Again did it stable when testing one crazy stock GTS512 :eek:
3D06 18763
Single XFX NV8800GTS512@888/2170/2240 mhz Stock cooler , no mods
Q6600@4206mhz Water
GB GA-X38-DQ6 All stock with F5H ;)
2х1г SuperT 800c4 @ 1250 5-5-4-10-4-35 PL6 ;) No cooler + 2.20v
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6...7632na3.th.jpg
Here
1270mhz 5-5-4-10-4-35 PL6 :coke:
near 475 fsb
4.890 sec Mandelbrot test Q6600 water
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Yeh I got a support email from Gigabyte today, that said "Please kindly update BIOS to latest version, F7". I followed the link they sent me, only to find F6b still at the top of the list. Ah well, the wait continues.....http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...lies/frown.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by zicada
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And just to add, yes I've been having the same POST probs as most of you. In the reply I just got from Gigabyte service, they said it's a RAM voltage issue, but all that's set to what Apogee recommend. Tell ya's, I'm getting bloody tired of turning on my rig, having to wait for about five minutes till it finally POSTs, then go to active desktop, do a restart, change the settings back to the OC ones, and then cross my fingers it'll POST again! Let's hope that F7 (when it finally comes out) fixes these voltage issues, 'cos as far as I'm concerned 850W should be plenty of power to kick my rig to life.
thats horrible to have to do that.....have you got a copy of f7h cause that is availbe ...
can someone remember which site so he can give it a go???
what other suggestions ca we give? .....try with just one ram stick in different slots.?
try another psu?even if it is a lower wattage ...just try stock with minimal addons..a cheap 10 quid jobby. if that clears it you know to send back your present psu.
DStealth that ram of yours is awesome
How much are those a pair ?
Define stable please :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DStealth
If you are able to run OCCT stable for hours and hours with those ram settings, please tell us what your subtimings and NB / MCH voltages are (as set in bios) and whatever you change with memset from OS. Are the sticks in dual channel ?
Also, does the mobo have the stock cooling, or do you cool the bridges differently, if so how.
Ive noticed a bit of an increase in performance by actively cooling the northbridge,- or rather, with active cooling im now able to OC MCH and FSB without instability from heat issues.
Still, ive never been able to get anywhere even remotely close to these settings stable with this board. Stable beeing 6+ hours OCCT mem+cpu test.
F7 IS OUT!!!!!
W000000000000000000T!!
http://tw.giga-byte.com/Support/Moth...S&FileID=13273
Yes!!!...woo Hoo!!
What differences do you find with the F7 that are better than with the F5,6,7 betas? :)
flashing right away!! damn, I never imagine myself so happy over a BIOS release, lol!!
Bios options are no different...but, the bios date has not been updated. Still reads 2007 :confused:
Not tested for stability as yet, notice CPU-Z 1.43? ;)
It's a joyous day :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
vdroop seems to be a bit better... now fluctuating between (everest read) 1.36 and 1.38v on OCCT full load (BIOS is set to 1.50v). otherwise... looks ok but I haven't tested it further yet.
Guess you've all seen it; Crysis Patch 1.1 is out (more or less officially). Had no problems installing it, but didn't get ANY perf. improvements, its even worse. Well done. Have fun!
not tried too much, but 't seems no lose, yet...Quote:
Originally Posted by 2DIFF
hello regarding latest bios f7
i seem to be able to get my memory to go past 1066 :)....
3.3 ghz 414fsb x4 =q6600 ..5 5 5 15 1104mhz 2.66 (**on air) 62 degs tops
hmm....i did have to search for this window in the bios ..and it may also work on other bios versions... im not saying this latest version 'update' allowed this to happen ..but it certainly does allow it to work.
i have not been able to get my ram past 1066 before.
once im settled tuning the ram timings i may reload the old version see if it works
on that..thanks gigabyte team. and people on here too of course.
haha ...and of course prime for a tiny weeny bit longer haha :)
also the memory multi 3.00a never works for me i have to use 2.66 it seems
Here's hoping it does something to solve or at least ease these crossfire display corruption issues. I 100% doubt it will, but hey, I can hope, right?
Hey.
Bit of a noob here. And i don't understand the difference between the different straps.
2.00 comes with different letters following, whats the practical difference between them?
Hoping the new F7 fixes my cold boot problems... same problem with 3 different psu's.
That strap letters, I supose, they are to differentiate timings for chipsets/memory for the different FSBs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xantor
(G)MCH strapping
x.xxA -> 266MHz
x.xxB -> 333MHz
x.xxC -> 200MHz
x.xxD -> 400MHz
hmm .... that be the reason i cant get 3.00A to work on fsb settings around 400. probably indeed. wish we had a 3.00 D
still this new bios seems better to me. hows everyone else doing? probably find out more toward the weekend im sure.
:)
Thanks but, i was thinking more along the lines of... when should i choose 266 instead of 400... Im running my Q6600 G0 at 8x450. And i need to run the mem at 2.00 But... which of the letters should i choose. I simply dont understand the mechanics.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
usually the tighter (lower) the strap is the tighter the timings on chipsets are. Tighter timings mean the same as for ram -> lower latancy means lower max fequenzy. But to loosen timings also mean you will lose performance and have to increase the frequenzy more to compensate for that fact.
You have to find the sweet spot, where you get a high frequenzy and still have some acceptable timings.
"Thanks but, i was thinking more along the lines of... when should i choose 266 instead of 400"
when i'm on 400fsb i use 2.66d .. i was under the impression that any fsb around 400 you would use the x.xx d straps available.??
2.66d works for me so i havent tried the others recently.
in other words ..i aint to sure..,
Looks like the B strap is the most stable one, atleast for me. TRD goes +1 when i use A or D.
Also, for some reason, the only really stable memory timings for my Crucial Ballistix appears to be 4-7-7-26, TRD 8. With Turbo on, that still gives me about 9000 read, 8500 write and 9000 copy in Everest, with memory at 926mhz, E6750 cpu at 3,7ghz.
Im about 1 hour into OCCT with these settings now. FSB, MCH and PCIE all at +0.2, memory at +0.55
using F7 bios now, i love this board!! i had 2 faulty 780i's and its a good thing i kept this baby beside me.....one thing i noticed from gigabyte, their build quality is among the best i have ever seen!!!!
I second that :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GAR
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Originally Posted by GAR
I love this board too...i didnt notice any changes with the new bios but its still good.
Can some one tell me what the Performance Enhance mode does?
I am currently running oc'ed:
400x9 = 3.6ghz
800mhz memory
i am currently running it at standard. What do the other two (turbo and extreme) modes do?
Thanks
Turbo and extreme run the memory at tighter timings and latency etc. Extreme is harder to run stable with a high overclock, turbo is a good balanceQuote:
Originally Posted by kam03