ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

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03-01-2009, 04:53 PM
e.v.o

For me it'll also be the last mainboard from Asus i paid for. (omg,.. is this some correct sentence? ^^)

Well,.. i just put up a new mBIOS but this one really isn't the big hit.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NYYM2S9T

I have for now two versions:
1901.1xx - only updated ROMs/µCode Updates, this is intended for stability
1901.2xx - based on 1901.1xx, tweaked a bit here and there...

Code:

=--------------------= [ mBIOS.1901.1xx ] =--------------------= [ mBIOS.1901.1xx ] ------------------ No link for .1xx package [ mBIOS.1901.101 ] ------------------ http://megaupload.com/?d=WE10MKNR Base: mBIOS.1901.100 Updated:Intel(R) RAID for SATA: v8.6.0.1007 from v8.5.0.1030 [ mBIOS.1901.100 ] ------------------ megaupload.com/?d=16JCVX3W Updated:Intel(R) RAID for SATA: v8.5.0.1030 from v8.0.0.1038 Intel Boot Agent GE: v1.3.24 from v0.0.19 Marvell 88SE6121 RAID: 1.1.0.L72a from 1.1.0.L70d =--------------------= [ mBIOS.1901.2xx ] =--------------------= [ mBIOS.1901.2xx ] ------------------ http://megaupload.com/?d=NYYM2S9T [ mBIOS.1901.201 ] ------------------ Base: mBIOS.1901.200 Updated:Intel(R) RAID for SATA: v8.6.0.1007 from v8.0.0.1038 Intel Boot Agent GE: v1.3.24 from v0.0.19 Marvell 88SE6121 RAID: 1.1.0.L72a from 1.1.0.L70d [ mBIOS.1901.200 ] ------------------ Base: Orginal Maximus II Formula BIOS: 1901 Updated:3 CPU µCodes Changed:Some minor changes to SMBIOS Bootlogo Added: 2 CPU µCodes
03-02-2009, 07:40 AM
Kayso

I have two HDD's on RAID0, so when I flash up to mBIOS.1901.201, will everything will working fine ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by seba84_2005

M2F - LC setup solution ;) Swiftech GTZ/NBMAX/ EK-Mosfet ASUS 3a.

Can you please tell me, from where have you bought those parts ? And what is your complete WC setup ?
03-02-2009, 05:15 PM
e.v.o

Well... i dunno xD

It's all up to you! Test it or leave it. I can't give you any guarantee it would work.
03-02-2009, 05:23 PM
andressergio

Bye Asus !! I went to Gigabyte UD3P no more unstability issues...
03-02-2009, 05:28 PM
GFORCE100

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.v.o

Well... i dunno xD

It's all up to you! Test it or leave it. I can't give you any guarantee it would work.

What's the 3x micro code update do exactly? Which CPU's does it concern?

I assume version 201 has all the benefits of 200 as this isn't clear from the above (unless my eyes are playing funny).
03-03-2009, 10:35 AM
Grnfinger

500 FSB is a tough nut to crack with this new chip....

45nm quad users running FSB of 465 or higher, whats your vNB set at?
03-03-2009, 12:46 PM
bito

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

500 FSB is a tough nut to crack with this new chip....

45nm quad users running FSB of 465 or higher, whats your vNB set at?

I only tried up 'till 478 FSB....vNB - 1.33850, with +60mV NB GTL.
Hope that helps :up:
03-03-2009, 12:49 PM
WhiteFireDragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

500 FSB is a tough nut to crack with this new chip....

45nm quad users running FSB of 465 or higher, whats your vNB set at?

mine's set at 1.55v. i have not optimized or tried to find the lowest voltages yet so it probably could pass at 1.50v.
03-03-2009, 01:24 PM
Grnfinger

Thanks guys, I'm running 1.45 for 500FSB so I guess more juice might be needed for a Vista boot.
My Q9550 boot'd 500FSB first try, A little frustrating but I'll get it, just hope I dont hose my OS in the process
03-03-2009, 04:28 PM
Robilar

I have a gigabyte UD3P currently running my Q9650 at 9x445. It only needs 1.216 vcore under load for stability. I have a chance to get the MIIF very very cheap (basically the same as what I can sell the UD3P for).

I noticed there are number of Q9650 owners in this thread. Are there any challenges I should be aware of getting 9x445 with a quad on this board? with the UD3P, literally the only thing I had to do was change vcore and ram voltage and away it went.

I have no complaints about the UD3P but I am a bit bored and it would be nice to have actual voltage and temp sensors in NB and SB (something the UD3P lacks).

thanks
03-03-2009, 04:33 PM
529th

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robilar

I have a gigabyte UD3P currently running my Q9650 at 9x445. It only needs 1.216 vcore under load for stability. I have a chance to get the MIIF very very cheap (basically the same as what I can sell the UD3P for).

I noticed there are number of Q9650 owners in this thread. Are there any challenges I should be aware of getting 9x445 with a quad on this board? with the UD3P, literally the only thing I had to do was change vcore and ram voltage and away it went.

I have no complaints about the UD3P but I am a bit bored and it would be nice to have actual voltage and temp sensors in NB and SB (something the UD3P lacks).

thanks

Your Board!?!?!?! try running it at 500fsb & an 8 multi - currently as I write this reply, i am testing my Q9650 @ 1.45vcore with only 475fsb on my MIIF 1901 bios, miif sucks in comparison
03-03-2009, 04:51 PM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robilar

I have a gigabyte UD3P currently running my Q9650 at 9x445. It only needs 1.216 vcore under load for stability. I have a chance to get the MIIF very very cheap (basically the same as what I can sell the UD3P for).

I noticed there are number of Q9650 owners in this thread. Are there any challenges I should be aware of getting 9x445 with a quad on this board? with the UD3P, literally the only thing I had to do was change vcore and ram voltage and away it went.

I have no complaints about the UD3P but I am a bit bored and it would be nice to have actual voltage and temp sensors in NB and SB (something the UD3P lacks).

thanks

I wont tell you what I think, but 9x445 on a MIIF would be a walk in the park.
Many MIIF users have jump'd ship and went with a Rampage or a UD3P.
The MIIF is a decent board but many lesser models are beating it in terms of FSB and bandwidth.
It runs fairly cool and has superior power mangement, nice dual bios, and some great skews for high FSB stability.
What is lacks is a decent bios to unleash its full potential.
Research and ask many questions, perhaps if its a friend maybe he would let you "borrow" it for testing b4 you made the decision.

I have the same chip as you , if you would like I can run a few comparisions for you to help decide.
03-03-2009, 05:52 PM
humeyboy

We know Intel is making the 775 have a bit more life due to recession and slow uptake on I7 and I5 being late but why do we get a boot to the balls and lesser models get upgraded ?

QUOTED :

" Asus presents the P5Q PRO Turbo and P5Q Turbo motherboards "

http://www.tcmagazine.info/comments....=24958&catid=2
03-03-2009, 06:02 PM
e.v.o

Quote:

Originally Posted by GFORCE100

What's the 3x micro code update do exactly? Which CPU's does it concern?

I assume version 201 has all the benefits of 200 as this isn't clear from the above (unless my eyes are playing funny).

I don't know what they do. You will have to ask Intel or read their documents about the µCode updates they provide. I can tell you the CPUID if you want. Maybe i should put this into the "readme"?

Quote:

Base: mBIOS.1901.200

yap, 201 is based on 200 with updated roms.

by the mid of the next week i will put up a complete new set of mBIOSs. maybe those will help a bit more than these did...
03-04-2009, 09:57 AM
GFORCE100

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.v.o

I don't know what they do. You will have to ask Intel or read their documents about the µCode updates they provide. I can tell you the CPUID if you want. Maybe i should put this into the "readme"?

yap, 201 is based on 200 with updated roms.

by the mid of the next week i will put up a complete new set of mBIOSs. maybe those will help a bit more than these did...

Flashed the 201 version and it works fine.

Now, if you could only get that 8.7xxx.xxxx ICH10R/D0 firmware...
03-04-2009, 01:02 PM
Kayso

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

500 FSB is a tough nut to crack with this new chip....

45nm quad users running FSB of 465 or higher, whats your vNB set at?

My final settings, rock stable at 8*475. I don't have time now, to play more. But this FSB, as you can see, is really easy to achieve !

My settings:

Code:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual OC From CPU Level Up: Auto Ratio CMOS Setting: 8 FSB Frequency: 475 CPU Clock Skew: Auto NB Clock Skew: Auto FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333 DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1140MHz DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto DRAM Timing Control: Manual 1st Information: CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto Row Refresh Recycle Time: Auto Write Recovery Time: Auto Read to Precharge Time: Auto 2nd Information: Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto Write to Read Delay (S): Auto Write to Read Delay (D): Auto Read to Read Delay (S): Auto Read to Read Delay (D): Auto Write to Write Delay (S): Auto Write to Write Delay (D): Auto 3rd Information: Write to PRE Delay: Auto Read to PRE Delay: Auto PRE to PRE Delay: Auto All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto All PRE to REF Delay: Auto DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled DRAM Read Training: Enabled MEM. OC Charger: Disabled Ai Clock Twister: Stronger Ai Transaction Booster: Manual Common Performance Level: 8 Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled PCIE Frequency: 100 CPU Voltage: 1.275 CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55 FSB Termination Voltage: 1.325 DRAM Voltage: 1.9375 North Bridge Voltage: 1.45 South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.55 South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.15 CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto NB GTL Reference: Auto DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto CPU Configuration Ratio CMOS Setting: 8 C1E Support: Disabled Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled CPU TM Function: Disabled Execute Disable Bit: Disabled Load-Line Calibration: Enabled CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

I will try with e.v.o's BIOS this weekend to see, what will happen :)
03-04-2009, 01:12 PM
jason4207

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

500 FSB is a tough nut to crack with this new chip....

45nm quad users running FSB of 465 or higher, whats your vNB set at?

I'm running 1.256v on the NB. This was almost good at 480FSB at this voltage (went over 12hrs large-fft, but then got an error), but I've since dialed it down to 471 b/c I was tired of messing w/ it (over 4 weeks). 4GHz on a quad is good enough for 24/7. Also, it was hard to get my RAM where I wanted it w/ the FSB on the ragged edge.

I can bench at 500FSB w/ 1.45vNB.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9761/x6176.jpg
03-04-2009, 01:19 PM
jason4207

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kayso

My final settings, rock stable at 8*475. I don't have time now, to play more. But this FSB, as you can see, is really easy to achieve !

I will try with e.v.o's BIOS this weekend to see, what will happen :)

Is that P95 large-fft stable? I had to play w/ NB GTL to get any kind of stability in large-fft above 465FSB.
03-04-2009, 02:21 PM
Kayso

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason4207

Is that P95 large-fft stable? I had to play w/ NB GTL to get any kind of stability in large-fft above 465FSB.

Dunno for large-fft stable, but Blend was stable for over 13 hours, so was with 20 loops of IBT and I think it is more than enough :) I want to lower my NB voltage in the future.

Here is mine 3D Mark 2006 score:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/405...remark2.th.jpg
03-04-2009, 08:22 PM
pphx459

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Managed to reduce my vCore for 467x9 4.2GHz

Now to work on 500FSB

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...200_10loop.jpg

What settings did you change to lower your vcore?
03-05-2009, 06:07 AM
Simonix

Be better in oc with these mBIOS ? What changes? sorry for my English ...:D
03-05-2009, 12:51 PM
Grnfinger

Thanks for all the responses guys, much appreciated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pphx459

What settings did you change to lower your vcore?

NB GTL and CPU Clock Skew and NB Clock Skew allowed the volts to come down quite a bit.
03-05-2009, 01:30 PM
JoeBar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

NB GTL and CPU Clock Skew and NB Clock Skew allowed the volts to come down quite a bit.

Could u pls give us any more info?
03-05-2009, 02:33 PM
529th

Thanks for the info Grnfinger - booted into windows but not Prime95 stable - core #1 fails within 5 seconds
MIIF 1901
2x2gb

500fsb
8 multi
cpu skew Delay 200ps
NB skew Delay 200ps
Strap 333
Dram skew ChA1 Delay 200ps
Dram skew ChA2 Delay 200ps

vcore 1.45
pll 1.6
vtt 1.33
Dram 2.1
NB 1.55

trying 1.5vcore

this is on h20 so thats why i am trying 1.5v otherwise, this is too much for 24/7 use on air...

EDIT: worker thread #2 still fails @ 1.5v
03-05-2009, 03:19 PM
Holy-Fire

Not sure if I'm supposed to ask this here or on a separate thread but... I've heard about problems with the NB temperatures on this board, which can be fixed by remounting the Heatpipe assembly. Does this happen on all samples or only some? Has ASUS fixed this in newer revisions? For best overclocking results, is it recommended to remount with a better TIM even if there is no significant problem? Thanks.

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