The OFFICIAL MSI K8N Neo2-939 tips and tricks guide thread

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Originally Posted by The Virus

Anyone know how many diff revisions are there for neo2 ?? I just got mine 4 days ago and i dont think AGP lock is working , even if i set it at 67mhz.

My system crashes even with just 210fsb and when it reboots the windows error message says the problem was with the 6800gt. The board runs rock solid with stock settings with my FX55. My ram is Corsair PC3500c2(2-3-3-7 rating, BH5) and yes it crashes at those timings too with 2T. Should i RMA the mobo or what?

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Check the AGP is locking by running clockgen. I assume clockgen is correct as it follows the AGP speed set in the BIOS. Now PCI lock always stays at about 33Mhz so either that is a correct reading or it is not reading correctly, however I was testing at 100Mhz AGP last night ( I have an nvidia 6800 which does not mine this ) and if the PCI was not locked then I assume that 100/2 = 50Mhz would have caused my hard drive to fail ( or maybe I was lucky ).

Anyhow, that is a good first step.

Regards

Andy

which tccd for this board??

what is avarage the best one?

you could wait for the new voltage-loving TCCD to show up in the stores :)

i thought the tccd that is on the market nowadays performs pretty much the same, about 270-275Mhz

Someone needs to sumup the tweaks and bugfixes in one post that make this board perform like a rock.

can only use the board's default (2,85v) ...

so it won't help me to much...

should i go for ADATA Vitesta pc4000 CL3-4-4-8 for 200€

or for better ram(tccd) for something 270-300€??
and which tccd? geil,ocz,corsair,pqi,g.skill,etc?

that whole memory thing confuses me :confused:

cpu runs 260x10 now

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Originally Posted by longshot

Someone needs to sumup the tweaks and bugfixes in one post to make this board perform like a rock.

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I second that!

how is that GEIL tccd
http://www.cheeep.de/chips.php?op=mo...67&SectionID=6

on msi k8n neo2?

Not sure if you guys have experienced this before or not but i'll throw it out there in hopes someone has a fix for it or tell me what i'm doing wrong.

I'm having an issue running any form of slave off my master ide1 cable. I can run 1 master np but the second i setup a slave either hd or dvd burner and try and access it within windows it will lock up the system. I've tried different cables and settings. I have the nf3 drivers installed properly as well. I have yet to try and setup a slave on the ide2 but damn i have 4 hd's and a burner i need the ide1 slave to work. Any ideas or similar happenings around here on xs?

Looks untested atm, but here is a mod'ed 1.37beta bios. Puts the VCore options removed from 1.36b back in and some other stuff.

Hmmm trats has made some good BIOS's.

hosted in trats directory.
Another host.

the bios was modded from the beta bios v1.37

changelog:

extra options in W7025NMS_137mod.bin
agp sideband address
ide hdd block mode
mac media interface
acpi function
wor (ri#) from soft-off
power status led
reset configuration data
shutdown temp
smart nb fan target
smart nb fan tolerance
display -12v in pc health status
nv/ati speed up
dram drive strength
pci clock autodetect
vcore options +13%, +15% and +18.3%


note: the bios is untested. use it at your own risk

thanks! just what I have been looking for.

Does anyone tried those 2 bios 1.36 and 1.37 ? Which is the bset ?

I\m using 1.36 and happy with it , wonder how's 1.37 bios works ?

Ok, I'm looking to get my Neo2 up and running in the next few days (with an FX-55 and Vapo LS strapped to it :D ) so I've been combing this thread for info. Attempted summary in no particular order (apologies for choosing one link out of many in general):

- Boot board with one DIMM when starting for the first time

- Flash to the 1.36 (1.3b6) or 1.37 or 1.37modded bios:
http://www.weckstrom.com/msibios/
http://www.svcheats.com/MSI_Neo_Plat2_939/beta/

How to hot flash:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=44481

- Use SATA ports 3 & 4 (nearest CPU, these are locked - 1 & 2 are not)

- Set AGP speed to 67 to LOCK PCI

- To maintain performance (and still get dual channel), only use two DIMMs, in slots 1 & 2 (nearest CPU)

- Many people are having good success with BH5 when using 1.36 BIOS or above

- Nearly everyone is having good success with TCCD

- Use DDR Booster in DIMM slot 4 (furthest from CPU). Seen people use upto 4V used with no adverse effects - yet ;)

- With 1.36 BIOS, only use +/- to adjust the HTT speed, don't enter the sub-menu unless you want a blue screen

- Trfc should not be touched by A64 tweaker

- Press Shift+F2, hold and press alt+F3 as well to enter hidden BIOS options

Apologies for the no doubt loads of other stuff missed!

Good list, except I don't think the booster is necessary here. (maybe for BH-5) I would try to get the 3.3 rail up to 3.4 at least for a subtle vdim boost in any case.

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Im having a nightmare with this little combo at the moment!!


The MSI Neo2, 3500+ Winchester and OCZ Platinum 3200 Rev.2 (TCCD) work amazingly with the stock cooler, had them upto 225fsb with stock volts and 2-2-2-10.

However, after I'd got the Puppy running I thoughth.. C'mon is Mach II GT time!! I wanna see 3ghz! Then....

...Oh no!! either this Motherboard or this Winnie doesnt like the cold... It simply will not post with the Mach II cooling it! PC Fires up but no boot (cant ofter get to Bios either).

I havent tried flashing the Firmware yet for the Mach II to the 821 Firmware but I will. The reason I dont think the firmware is the issue is because I removed the evap head bu kept the Mach II connected to the PC. Turned the Mach II on, temp dropped to -33.c and then the PC started (I was cooling the CPU with a 92mm Tornado blowing straight at it - no HS ) and the little blighter boots without problem straight into Windows?????

Really strange!!

I know this board is OK with Subzero temps as Ive seen loads of you using it however, I wonder if the Winchester simply cant operate at them?

Anyone able to help??

What bios are you using for the Neo2?

I'm having problems with the mach 1 and this board....the reset doesn't work from the chill control. As soon as I hit the go button the pc posts, and the chill control wont hold the reset like it has with other boards. I didn't want to have to wire 2 power supplies.... who has this combo working together, and how did you do it??

Is AGP speed connected to PCI on nforce 3 ?

I have been running AGP at 100Mhz and cpu-z reports it correctly, however it stays at 33Mhz for PCI bus. If it was a 2 divider then I assume PCI would be 50Mhz which should have blown my hard drive out.

Puzzling

Regards

Andy

I don't know if anyone post this problem before, avoid using the last PCI slot (i.e. the one with Orange color). It really meant to be use with their WiFi card :slap:. I had a heck lot of problem with my system with that PCI slot occupied it

what is max stable northbridge temp??

any1 tried to let the nb-fan run slower yet??

forget to put more/better thermal compound on it and no got cpu/gpu watercooled and don't want to change something..

I've just bought that mobo... really nice, prime stable at 280Mhz FSB by now, and some benchies at 300 but I can only run asyncronous because my KX3000 BH5 can't run syncron :confused: (is it possible?) So I did FSB300 Memo@240 2-2-2 for bench. All this with the 1'37 moded bios.

There isn't any option to change the voltage of chipet? I can't find it... 300fsb where did at stock voltages.

PD: If i set vcore to +10% it only gives me 1'60v, is that normal? VID is at 1'55V.

And another thing, how do you know what vdimm you have? I can't find any sensor reading that... (and my ocz ddr booster leds are burned)

i get only to 1,45 by changing it "normally". .. for any higher i need the %

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Originally Posted by krampak

I've just bought that mobo... really nice, prime stable at 280Mhz FSB by now, and some benchies at 300 but I can only run asyncronous because my KX3000 BH5 can't run syncron :confused: (is it possible?) So I did FSB300 Memo@240 2-2-2 for bench. All this with the 1'37 moded bios.

There isn't any option to change the voltage of chipet? I can't find it... 300fsb where did at stock voltages.

PD: If i set vcore to +10% it only gives me 1'60v, is that normal? VID is at 1'55V.

And another thing, how do you know what vdimm you have? I can't find any sensor reading that... (and my ocz ddr booster leds are burned)

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+10% on 137mod bios give me 1.77v if set at 1.55v.

Mine never goes over 1'6V... what's going wrong :confused: If I set Vcore to 1'55V an any 0% it does 1'55 correctly, so the 1'55V its OK, may be the 8 an d10% doesn't work?

R2....

you need to update your machines Firmware. The MAch II needs a new firmware to operate with this board (and most A64)

http://nventiv.blue-nexus.com/

Get all your firmware from here :)