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Well there you go. Easy enough right? ;)
Yeah... just gotta find a splitter.
lol can you let me know too. that's a great find :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Keep us posted-would like to know how this works. 2 boards on 1 power supply would be not bad at all:up:
$10, ouch. Saves a lot of fiddling though :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Not bad really, pretty much in line with buying cables from anywhere else. Figure there are 48 wires, each 12" long, so 48 feet of wire, plus plugs, plus pins, and all the work putting it together... really isn't all that bad when you sit down and think about it :D
I also got a 6pin PCIe to 8 pin EPS adapter from those guys too, since I'll need another one and won't be putting a graphics card in this one sammy anymore - all after I kill and bring that board back to life from modding the x8 PCIe slot :ROTF:
that board must hate you...Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Then it's a good thing it can't speak up for what it feels :DQuote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
Actually it was less grumpy at startup than the second one was that I did nothing to :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
so if we managed to get 2 dual sammy boards into one case we could use a single psu for 8 low consuming cores? ( despite MM´s piece of advice )
That's what I aim to find out :up:
Who ever listens to me?:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Duh
We youngsters are so pigheaded right? :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Does anyone have another 1GB stick of ECC DDR2 for this system? Just as I want to upgrade from 1GB my retailer stops selling the sticks I need :rolleyes:
here you go :
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product...&l3=Registered
That is my local retailer and they're out of stock ;)
I'll check my stock when I get home I have some 1gb sticks
Well.... I know but I just wanna try at least :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Normally I agree with your reservations about running multiple computers off a single PSU, but in the case of a Sammy, it's probably cheaper and more efficient to run multiple sammies off a single PSU. Most PSUs aren't hitting max efficiency until around 50% load or higher, and at 100 watts a piece, a nice 400-450 watt PSU (eg Corsair VX450 or CX400) could easily handle 2-3 Sammies without breaking a sweat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
The down side is that, as far as I know, turning one off would turn them all off, and turning one on would turn them all on.
Eller
Then keep them all on at all times. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by karl_eller
I believe a slot in my board is bad/not recognizing memory- I have 2 2gb sticks in there and it is only listing 2 gb total. This is the second set of memory so I don't think it's the sticks- I have them in the first two slots which others can I try them in?
try slots #2 and 4 with the slot closest to the PSU connector being #1Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptMorgan
Thank you very much
Thank me if it works..:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptMorgan
Ya where ya been gongo working hard? It's gettin hot here finally on the East Coast- Sammies are the thing to have in this weather because they stay CooL:cool:
If you ground the green wire from the power supply, it will keep the supply on, regardless of inputs from the MB. Also, I think in the cyberdruid thread mentioned earlier, he states that turning one MB on does not turn the other on, and likewise, shutting one down, does not shut the other off. Grounding the green is a surefire way to keep the supply on if in doubt :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by karl_eller
I have a entire 2.0ghz sammys rig for cheap (motherboard, cpus, heatsinks, backplate and ram). pm me if anyone interested.
Define "cheap":DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bail_w
215 shipped con usa, if too high let me know. i need to pay my credit card bill :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
That's reasonable..Quote:
Originally Posted by Bail_w
I can build a Phenom II X4 940 system for $191 shipped with Biostar 790GX board and RAM. I'm assuming it smokes a Sammy for the cost?
Your including cpu,motherboard,heatsink and memory in that price?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peen
Is He?? Has the Sammy been beaten Electrical and Cost wise??? Never:shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Yep yep :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
If clocked decently, it'll do about twice the points per day, but at a little over double the power draw, and be harder to cool, too. Depends on what's more important: Output or power consumption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peen
Eller
Ok, show me links then and here is my cost to build a sammy rig for those parts:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peen
MB :$30 delivered
HS: $20.00 for the pair
cpu's: $80.00/pair
memory: $40 from newegg for 2 times one gig or cheaper on ebay.. DDR2-400 ECC REG is cheap to buy today.
Total:$170.00:p:
Lets add in that the MB your using ain't exactly what I'd call primo vs an Intel server board that should last quite a long time.
Then electrical cost, what does your combo draw?
The Sammy is 117w at 100% load..
That's the point here, sammy is the ideal machine for people who aren't crunchers by nature.
Those that don't want elec guzzling hot machines..
It is not for all and I did it as an experiment to see for myself what were the good and bad points..
I assumed you bought it on newegg.com with 20 dollars rebate right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peen
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.209473
Interesting, well if its the same price then seems like a no-brainer to me.
Yes but with Bing cash back and newegg is giving me another 20 or so off because they love my face so much :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bail_w
I guess I admire any machine that can pump out massive amounts of points for research. Sossaman's can within reason-it is the Low heat&electrical output that is attractive thing about em. Hey they are not for all-But if a few of us could get together and sneak 1 into every home in the country:eek: No one would ever notice!! Like a 100watt light bulb on all time:cool: Big Deal
and that is exactly my point..Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptMorgan
It is a niche product..
Not the most powerfull but right up there in dependability and with the boards at $19.00 plus shipping and a pair of cpu's under $100.00 it is the perfect machine for non crunchers to crunch with..:D
Ok, but where do you get them nowadays?Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
BTW, you WCG guys post fast haha :rofl:
Not everyone can afford to pay 300 dollars electrical bill every month. Thus, i chose the sammys. Produce about 7-8k per day and help for a cause.
yup, and good point especially in CAL where they have stepped rates on elec and you can get absolutely killed trying to run a farm of top machines there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bail_w
I like my sammys. And they like being together. I'll have to grab pics but they are running in one box with the Y cables just fine :cool:
what are Y cables?Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
ok ok, plz show me where to build one :D
I can't stand this P4 makes more heat then the i7 Xeon and ungodly slow
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peen
For the CPUs, you can buy a pair of 2.0ghz sammys from me for 85 shipped con usa. Or you can buy it from ebay for 115.
Motherboard: http://www.centrix-intl.com/details.asp?productid=4675
Awesome, thanks. So I need ECC DDR2 and some heatsinks.
Still trying to decide between this and PhenomII 940 Oc'ed
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=130263487577Quote:
Originally Posted by Bail_w
depends on your situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peen
Do you live at home?
How much is electric?
Will heat be a factor?
Are you a gamer?
Sammy isn't the right choice all the time.
Just a niche machine that is very good at somethings but not so good at others.
It's not 64 bit capable
It only has a pci-eX8 slot and one pcix slot..
it is a EATX board so needs a EATX case(12x13" motherboard)
Needs a 24 pin and 8 pin plug off the PSU.
Depending on your needs a AMD940 may be a better choice.
Well I kinda wanted a Phenom II to play with because can get it soooo cheap right now.
Cost really isn't an issue though, in fact I may build a Gainestown soon I miss having server hardware :)
can you take a picture of the rigs with the y cable please?Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Ya Sparky I want to see pics of your setup:)Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Will do tomorrow. I'm not at home right now to get pics.
Only 22H time :(Quote:
Originally Posted by gongo
No time to gather guys for team bid :p:
Amasingly those look new :o
don't show this to Dave :rofl:
really nice but shippin would not be nice:rolleyes:
Really, we should get that as a team... $85 a pop is nothing :eek:
Too late for that, once it's posted David WILL see it :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaco
Sammy cluster anyone?
But shippings are :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Martijn
Tho if we get somebody at states to receive these and remove parts from 1U cases and send parts forward to EU. Mobo, cpus + HS, mem and hdd :)
Could pick them up- says they are 400 miles away/6 1/2 hour drive hmmmm worth the gas??
With that price, hell yea.
Gas is cheap in the USA, so yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptMorgan
Gas is way cheaper in states that it's in Finland...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silicon-Mechanic...130316366139QQ Here's those sammys sold separetely.
Guys.. that's a great opportunity. However I don't see intercontinental shipping on those, so here is what we could do:
1. Try and find someone who would be willing to run those all together. They are around 100W each so that's 1KW/h for the whole. I'm thinking of bob because he has the lowest elec costs (0,05$ right?) :D
2. Find enough people to buy those. Like everyone interested could buy one if the ending price is reasonable (maybe we set a max of 1000$?).
3. One person runs those as a farm/cluster, either under the names of those that bought them OR as "Team XS Sammy Cluster" <-- :D
Those should do approx 60-70k WCG/d put together.
Sound like a plan? :D
I would definitely put 100 bucks up for that project.
Vote for 3.!Quote:
Originally Posted by jcool
Tho i'd like to have my own sammy :(
I've promised that i make one of those things OC!
That is an insane price for 10 systems.
But those elec costs are a tad high for one person to bear, especially in this economic climate, but the 'receiver' can always individually ship them, maybe at a small premium :p:
Perkam
That lot is very very tempting, instant mini farm on a rack!
I'd rather see the auction expire, then negotiate a price w shipping and have him relist it as a Buy it Now.
Still 85 a whack for a full system, drives & case is a steal. :up:
OK here are pics of my dual sammys on one PSU in one box :D PSU is a 400W antec and it barely even blows warmish air out :up:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...671024x768.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...711024x768.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...811024x768.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...891024x768.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...941024x768.jpg
That is a frigging steal..Quote:
Originally Posted by gongo
NY state huh?
I wonder if he'll allow someone to pick them up..
I'm also remembering that rsmura said he could host machines at his business and Rob isn't far from this guy..
I'm broke right now or I'd be on this myself.
We agree 100%.. a month ago and I'd have jumped on this but very bad time, no work coming in and the "little" one hit me up for $$ I really didn't have app a week ago..Quote:
Originally Posted by gongo
Can't say no to the kids..:shrug:
@sparky
You use the box that came with your motherboard. Hahaha
Amazing, what a work of art. :D
SparkyJJO- You are my new hero! That's so cool. :rofl:
(I feel like I should be pushing up some glasses and adjusting suspenders...:rolleyes:)
I'd be up for a system or two if we can get them :)
Probably to let it end then try to negotiate with him.
Yep-we should negotiate and see where that takes us. See if shipping it is cheaper than driving out to it
Rochester,NY.. What? 5 hours from me, I'd go and get them.. cheaper than shipping..Quote:
Originally Posted by gongo
And what are you doing up at 3:12am?:D
Wow that is so cool....The Helmer. Ok but Helmer II is insane:shocked:
I have the lowest costs and the lowest quality cruel aunt :D.. on topic: that thing is a steal.. even the PSU or the chassis alone would be a deal..if somehow that thingie could arrive here I can run it without any hassle with the name you want.. IIRC my costs are something like 0.0015 /kwh..I´ve written it here long time ago but can´t recall atm..Quote:
Originally Posted by jcool
+111111111 very very nice build there my friend..Quote:
Originally Posted by Otis11
Can you see that helmer with a bunch of dual socket boards in it?:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptMorgan
say a dozen 12 core AMD or Intel systems all running together..:hrhr:
I'd rather see a bunch of 4 socket 8 core/chip rigs in it. hehe
Maybe overclocked and liquid cooled. =p dreams... dreams... i bet this one would be a nightmare would WUs lol
Correct me if I'm wrong but that should come out to 50-70k ppd. For a $850 system that's untouchable!
Edit: Oh and this would be sick- do it with OC i7 and GTX 260's... :rofl:
To bad to do it for just 3 towers would cost $91,000 ($500 per i7-920 + Board and $170 per 260) if I did my math right. Plus then all the engineering that goes into actually building it and Power supply?
Anyone up for it? :p:
15 mins to go and the price is the same on ebay.....Man you get good deals over there
Well he put em for sale separately or in lots of two/three!
Sold separetely:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silicon-Mechanic...130319133630QQ
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silicon-Mechanic...390070073291QQ
Lot of 2
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Silicon-Mechan...380140090296QQ
Lot of 3
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-3-Silicon-Me...390068557813QQ
Go bid yer own sammy :p:
Oh if only I wasn't broke. :(
good deals?? that monster could be had for a min of 3k each of the 10 at least in here
...for 4 Peta Flops. Hmmm, so 1000 Gflops = TeraFlop. 1000 TeraFlops = 1 Peta Flops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmer III
So 4,000,000 GFLOPS for $900,000 comes out to $0.225/GFLOP, which I don't see happening until 2014 or something seeing as with current hardware we're looking at at least $20/GFLOP for CPUs, which are the only viable data crunching platform atm with no one programming on GPUs as much.
Perkam
F@H runs on GPUs quite well, hence why it has GTX260s in it :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Yeah - most of that power comes from the GPUs in his model...Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
The day GPUs can run VMs and ERP software will be the day anyone will take GPUs seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Otis11
Until that day, supercomputers will be powered by CPUs, not GPUs.
Perkam
My sossaman should be on it's way so I am wondering if anyone is using their's as a file server? I have one of my quads setup with WHS and a HDD died the other day and I lost all my data.
So can I put some sort of RAID card in it to avoid losing my data or should I just use a cruncher?
lol I'm not sure about file.....wait a minute....Quote:
Originally Posted by emuexport
sossa #1 is WCG 95% and a file server. actually works great.
sossa #2 is counter-strike:source server (20 users) for my son during the day and WGC at night :p:
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by JAWS
thanks JAWS:up:
I should have said "How do I connect more than 6 drives to the server? Just use a PCI SATA card?
Yes, a normal 32 pci sata card will work fine in the PCI-X slot..Quote:
Originally Posted by emuexport
And yes, it's on the way..:p:
You mean that super long white slot? I thought it was a proprietary riser slot. A normal PCI card works in that? If so... sweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Nope, it's a PCI-X..works as 33 or 66..Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
I have an old Promise IDE controller card in mine with 2-120 gig IDE drives on it and works perfect..
:banana::banana::banana::banana: too many people getting sossamans .. I guess I will try to have mine ASAP ( after I recover from some stuff :P)
:stick: :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
:up:
I think I'll put a PERC 5i in there. PCI-E x8 slot and card should be a good mix and I dont need the GPU so it can have a PCI or onboard. :up: