those of you that are having all these crazy problems should really think about rma'ing your board. the issues you're having are rediculous.
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those of you that are having all these crazy problems should really think about rma'ing your board. the issues you're having are rediculous.
I just noticed Majorrams temps were not being OC'd at all, in that case yeah somethings really too hot- Those temps should be your temps if you at your MAX Stable OC. pretty much.
anybody getting the restart issue with 404 bios?
Hi Gar i have the same cpu/ram and mobo and whilst i can get into windows with ramm @1111Mhz it wont run prime at all, which slots are you using for your ram , i know my chip will do 3.7 Ghz 463x8 as it primes fine with mem on the next divider down which is at a crappy 1:1 ddr463. any clues ?
Well not necessarily ram voltage go up with 4GB.... usually if they are rated 2.2v they will run at that and be stable, its usually the NB that has a hardtime keeping up. I set my NB on Maximus to 1.53v, it would error with mine running super tight timings at 1.49-1.51v.
temp sensor maybe will work
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/63..._-_2_Pack.html
Hi all,
Just an update. My Ballistix failed on the other Memtest (v3.3) as well.
Right now I have some OCZ RAM in there and testing away.
So far it's on the 2nd Pass with no errors. I'll see how it is in the morning.
Either way, I already requested an RMA for the board and I think I will do one for the memory as well. Maybe they will let me exchange for 2x2GB sticks.
Does anyone recommend any 2x2GB DDR1000+ RAM? Other than GARs GSkills of course :)
Or should I just stick with the Ballistix DDR1066 (after all it's pretty good RAM)?
:) smal oc
VCORE Dropst to 1.16V!!! Is that normal?
Man you guys are reporting soooo many issues I am getting nervous. I still have the unopened mobo sitting here waiting for the CPU. Is this board a dud or what?
Yeah I hardly think it is the RAM. I'm gonna give the RAM a second chance and see what happens. I really don't want to part with them anyway :)
Hey does anyone know of a good fan-based RAM cooler?
Just wondering since air flow in my case may not be the best and I hope it will help.
Plus I think I will get a few temp sensors and monitor temps around the board.
Here's hoping I get the 1.03g revision of the board! :)
I've read all the pages in this thread and I agree there are a lot of issues and I'm even tempted to just go back to the Gigabyte DQ6.
I feel though that the Maximus will get much better before the year end. Just a feeling mind you. Plus despite all the issues, many people keep saying how much they love this board (even if you put aside GARs posts ;) too) :cool: that's gotta mean some thing.
After trying many many different settings I became slightly frustrated and set my voltages to what I feel are a little higher than they should be just to try and keep a prime stable overclock. Here's my settings 16 hours Prime stable:
CPU Ratio Control Manual
Ratio CMOS setting 9
FSB Frequency 400
FSB Strap to NB Auto
PCIE Freq 100
DRAM Freq DDR2-961mhz
DRAM Command Rate 2T
DRAM Timing Control Manual
cas 5
ras to cas 5
ras precharge 5
ras active time 15
Everything else AUTO
-----------------------------------
Voltages
CPU Voltage 1.5 (1.488 droop)
CPU PLL Voltage 1.66 (overvolting to 1.776-1.792)
NB Voltage 1.63 (overvolgint to 1.68)
DRAM Voltage 2.22 (overvolting to 2.352)
FSB Term Volt 1.4 (overvolting to 1.472)
SB volt 1.075 (overvolting to 1.120)
Loadline Calib Enabled
CPU GTL Ref .63x
NB GTL Ref .67x
DDR2 channel A auto
DDR2 channel b auto
DDR2 Controller auto
SB 1.5v auto
Both spread spectrums disabled.
I am running my ram with a divider to eliminate any stability issues to just the processor. What voltages on there do you think I can lower? Obviously I will be testing with lower vcore now, but wat about the nb, sb, fsb term, and cpu pll? I would like to get lower temps if I can. It was 71c after 16hours on water. It is about 90f in the room it is in though.
Mondo, you could mount the TRUE so that it blows upwards, from bottom to top, as opposed to from front to back? That should give enough room I think?
yeah pll lower is always better....i put 1.6v when i m losing my hope on my proc.... E6850 fsb walled at 465...its been all the same for 3 mobos....Dark, P35 DS3P and maximus.... will post my 3.6 settings later tonight...in the office now cant remember what settings did i put all i remember is 1.4125v for vcore and 2.00v for vdimm at ddr 900 4-4-4-8-4-42
Damn this is a pretty long thread:shocked: The only problem I can see so far with this board is the vcore. This cpu was 100% prime95 stable at 3.6ghz at 1.38v on my Asus Premium P35 board. I understand there are alot of new settings in this bios and I'll have to really dig into it but for now like I said the only thing I can see an issue with is the vcore/vdroop control. Or lack of. I started out by setting the vcore similar to how I had it on the Premium at 1.4v to get 1.38v real. That was obviously a no go. So, I worked my way up with vcore and it seemed like it just wasnt changing at all. I finally landed on 1.5v to get 1.41v real. I am still on the original 0401 bios and am not sure if any issue have been solved with a new bios revision (I guess once I read this thread I'll find out:))
One other thing I found out that was total garbage with that cpu clock up or whatever that software was. I kept getting bsod's all the time. But then again I disable all cpu features in the bios so it wouldnt work either way.
I am running 4gb of memory on Vista x64 without any issues. One thing I did notice is my vdimm did overvolt a bit.
http://www.njkidxs.org/Q6700-3.6ghz.jpg
I just ordered one of these boards, so I can't wait to get it!
Just an idea since this board came with NB WC, interesting to see what people actually used to cool the NB, mine:
NB cooled by:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21137
w/Fan.
temp=40-44c @ 1.65v in Asus probe.
SB cooled by:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21312
temp=40-43c @ 1.55 in Asus probe.
CPU cooled by:
D-Tek Fusion block, PA120.2 Rad.
X3230 G0 chip (testing 2.4 - 4.0G) , oops 7900GT@stock.
Did you hook up the fuzion block to ya loop or never tried it ? till now my NB goes up to 49°C at 1.45 volts but it's still passively cooled
I noticed that with Asus Probe it says my cpu temp is about 10 degrees cooler than what core temp shows. My bios also shows the same temp as asus probe does when idling. Could core temp be that far off? I would say it's probe but it seems to match the bios temp reading.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&d=1193738036
Now look at the speed fan temps compared to core temp and asus probe... What ones do I trust?
http://www.geekaid.com/D00machin3/screenie1.jpg
i guess all of us having the same issue... the different between pc probe and coretemp is around 10 degrees.... i follow the coretemp reading tho... look more logical to me :)
hey all..
ATT: GAR
do you have problem to set the NB volt whit your Gskills RAM?
i can set my RAM higher then 1.6 it wil not boot.....:S
but if i set NB to auto i can only OC to 3.4 :S
i just got my Gskills 2*2G PC8000
is this bad mem?
my hardware
Q6600 B3
Asus Maxi : bios 505
XFX 8800 GTX
highpoint raid
creative audi 2
8 * HD
PSU : Enermax 720W
Check this out:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/22...perature-guide
Is this suggesting that the speed fan temps are the more reliable temps over the core temp readings?
Pulled this from "Section 8: Tools" (in the above link)
Also:Quote:
Note 1: Core Temp is an excellent utility, however, it has a fundamental flaw in terminology, which creates confusion in the CPU temperature community, by obscuring the distinction between temperature and specification. Core Temp shows Tjunction 85c (or 100c), which is an incorrect term. The proper expression is Tjunction Max 85c (or 100c), which is the term defined by Intel as shown above in the Specifications section, and as represented below:
Tjunction = Core temperature
Tjunction Max = Shutdown
Is this all true? If so then it would seem to suggest that Speed Fan temps are the true temps to monitor.Quote:
Note 3: SpeedFan is very flexible and is the temperature monitoring utility of choice. SpeedFan detects and labels thermal sensors according to various motherboard, chipset and super I/O chip configurations, so the Tcase label can be CPU, Temp 1, Temp 2, or Temp 3. Even if Tcase is labeled as CPU, it is still necessary to confirm the identity of Tcase prior to conducting Calibrations. Run Prime95 and note which SpeedFan temperature scales with an Idle to Load Delta similar to the Cores. This will identify the label corresponding to Tcase. Labels can later be renamed using the Configure button, (see Section 11). If a temperature shows a flame icon, this indicates alarm limits which require adjustment. Use the Configure button to set CPU and Core temp alarms to Safe Scale. If a temperature shows Aux 127, this is simply an unassigned input which can be disabled using the Configure button. CPU`s with Steppings which are Tjunction Max 100c typically require +15c Core Offsets. See Section 11.
S3 resume, does not work. I have it set to only use S3 in BIOS and I'm using acpi 2.0 as well, yet Vista x64 does not switch to an S3 sleep state, instead it shutdowns the video and the fans/HDs continue to run. When I attempt to resume the system is locked and I must hold the power button for 5 seconds to force a shutdown and then reboot. Since Hibernate will not work with 4GB of memory an S3 sleep state is a requirement, yet I have no idea what to do as I thought this was a 100% BIOS controlled operation, and since Vista is designed to use S3 sleep over shutdown, I'm really at a loss. Any ideas?
Thanks,
ERIC
Just an update on my bad mobo issue.
Just came home and the OCZ PC8500 RAM did 19 passes with no errors using MemTest 86 v3.3.
Going to try Memtest 86+ test and then switch back to the Ballistix and see how they fare again.
Sigh this is getting to be a real pain. It seems to point to the RAM as the problem now.
Would like some opinions on what to do, currently I have some Kingston DDR2 8500 2X1GB kit, it works just fine but I have an opportunity to sell it and buy some different ram, my options are 2X2GB 6400 ram;
OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400C4 800MHz Reaper
OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400C5
OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400C5 Dual Channel Vista Gold Series
Or these;
Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2 Dominator PC2-8500C5 TwinX (2x1GB)
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-8500C5 1066MHz Dual Channel Kit
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC2-8500 1066MHz SLI-Ready Edition Dual Channel DDR2
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC2-9200 1150MHz Reaper HPC Edition Dual Channel DDR2
The price difference between them all is small enough that it doesn't matter, my thoughts are what would be the plus and negative points of 2Gb or 4GB there is the difference of 6400 to 9200 DDR2 specs but would Vista 32 be better with 4GB or would Vista 64 be MUCH better with 4GB?
The reason I'm asking here is because I have this motherboard and really need to know how the different RAM is likely to run, I have read the whole thread and know the G Skill is very good but it's not an option as only the ram I have listed can I get at a good price.
Thanks for every ones input on the whole thread it's been a good read.
Na, seems not required yet and that Nocuta/fan came in handy after trying HR05 which also fits. Notice naked NB underneath :
http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/cb7ce0090a.jpg
Although I knew about X38 cap, over the excitment I totally forgot it and went ahead
& poped it.
Removed stock NB assembly, SB and reseated the rest.
Also some glue holding both assemblies.
http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/6d676f050c.jpg
Forgot to add I only trust coretemp.!;)
Is the NB/SB heatsink a pain to remove? Does it come off easily or does it give a real hassle?
If you can get the Gskills PC8000 4 gig kit 5-5-5-15 then I would go for that as they leave more headroom for higher FSB... remember though this kit is hardly overclockable but a steal for it's price... I payed 210 euro's with shipping for this kit :up:
http://www.memoryc.com/products/desc...kit/index.html
Used a large flat screw driver inserted underneath the assembly while leaning on the pci slot from the other end applying little pressure gradually till it popped. Lucky me the whole thing came off I would off removed the cap anyway, I guess better contact.
Sadly, not doing any benching at the moment too many variables with this bios too much time to be wasted, thanks I'd rather wait for a newer than 505.
I am really liking this board, nice, quick and very stable so far and a much nicer experience than my my old P5K deluxe that ate raid arrays for breakfast, lunch and dinner! Was well worth the wait and hassle for me to get one :).
Lol, I can't believe that I am going to be this lazy and ask for recommended settings but I am getting old nowadays and the bios is starting to look a little too DFI-like for my tastes to be honest. Tweak time is very limited too for the next few weeks as well :(. Apart from fixing the cpu (1.28V selected and left at that for now), ram voltage (2.2V) and switching the damper on, I have left everything else at auto @333fsb. Lovely even temp spread across the cores of, only 1c difference, 19c ambient and cores at C0=23,C1=13,C2=24,C3=24. I would like to go right up to 400fsb and leave it at that, but with the minimum of 'fumbling in the dark' ;). I am not one for overvolting either, I would normally sit here and tweak the voltages down to the stable min.
If one of the old school could just give me some quick base settings to stick in and go from there I would really appreciate it!
Cheers,
Nick :)
It is quite scary how many posts I have seen across the web where people have managed to pull the slug clean off the northbridge using the prising technique with this board. 1 plum on clunk.org used so much force that he pulled the NB off the motherboard........
Straight out of the box, I managed to 'pop' the southbridge one fairly easily but I could tell that the NB was going to take quite a bit of pressure and I wasn't happy with that. I heated it from a foot or so with a hairdryer for a minute and it came off easily enough, but a fair bit of the putty-like stuff was still on the heatslug. Not a problem, just a 5-10min job to clean up properly. The strength of the putty was very impressive tbh.
Thanks for that info :up:
So what does everyone think a "safe" max temp of CPU, NB, and SB while priming would be?
In the middle of the day when it is the hottest I sometimes reach 71c, and I'm on water. It's just too hot in this room at that time.
When I'm gaming and stressing the cpu with normal activities, it seems to max out around 55 though. Idles about 40.
Anything under 72C is considered in spec for a Q6600 I believe. But I would not want to go there for long.
Chipsets I believe are in the 90C range...could be mistaken. I need to browse Intel for the real scoop.
I'm abviously no expert on the subject but I've been asking that same question (Max temps for quads and C2D) and was told that the new quads can saftly handle upwards of 100C and that newer C2D can handle upwards of 85C. With that said though most people seem to be in the 60C-80C range with their Quads whether on air or water under full-load? Like CyberDruid said I think between 70C-80C is a resonable full-load temps, not great but resonable.
Thank you for that information. I was getting a little worried since I have been reading in a lot of different places that Intel says the max temp is 62c.
90c for chipsets? Sounds very very hot to me, but just like Roger_D25 says, "I am no expert on the subject".
I think I found a good answer to all these temperature questions.
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=525629
Basically from what I understand is that this thread is implying that 75c is a safe temp (core temp reading) at max load.
GAR when you run CoreTemp what VID does it show for your Q6600?
You might find this guide of use re any questions on safe tcase/tjunction for dual and quads http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/...perature-guide
what is "vid?"
each cpu has different default votlage. this is VID. Mine is 1.2375v for L725A838 B3, and 1.25v for L644Gxxx, both Q6600's. neither goes as high as his does, so this is not really indicitive of performance across different revisions of the same chip, however, my 1.2375v goes much further than my 1.25v.
Crap, your absolutly right CaDaveca, I should have looked back before posting my question! I usually try not to ask "Those" type of questions if I can help it, especially since the information was already posted! Also thanks for posting what the VID actually means, your did a much better job articulating it than I would have, lol!
With that said thanks GAR for posting that info once again for me, much apprecaited!
http://users.pandora.be/OAP/Hardware...%20001.jpg
http://users.pandora.be/OAP/Hardware.../Max%20002.jpg[/QUOTE]
but but.... that would hurt performance :mad:Quote:
Mondo, you could mount the TRUE so that it blows upwards, from bottom to top, as opposed to from front to back? That should give enough room I think?
I'm curious mondocool, do you have to time to try that and post results?
On my second Maximus and have the same issue as the first one I rma'd
Getting...
CMOS Ckecksum Bad
Press F1 to run setup
Press F2 to load default
Hitting F1 or F2, clearing cmos and removing battery has no affect and cannot get into bios at all
Swapped out both sticks of ram, ran one stick and both, no affect
Hardware in my signature
Anyone know what's wrong ?
Thanks in advance
"CMOS Ckecksum Bad"
Don't you get that the first time you startup the MB with unset BIOS? Still tells you that after loading default and saving/exiting? Tried updating to 0505 BIOS?
or I see a ALT+F2 to enter a flash utility on the splash screen
for my 3.825? it's 425 x 9, i started with the voltages in the high "normal" range that the user guide suggested and then just moved them back from there till it became unstable and went back to the last known stable setting. dram voltage is 2.0*. my ram is 4-4-4-12 with a 1:1 divider. everyboard seems to be reacting different. i can't seem to get too far with the FSB for some reason. tried everything that i can think of as well as others thoughts. i'm waiting for a better bios now. i'd like to get a nice solid 4.*** cpu clock with my 4 gig's of ram in there. we'll see what the future has in store shortly.
Is there any benefit of enabling trans action booster over static read control,
If I disable it on my board I can run 450FSB ( 450 x 8 ) with less than 1.4 NB volts (prime stable), I seem to remember from my P5K Dlx that some users had equal ram bandwith with static read control enabled and transaction booster disabled...
Any input on that ?
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ula/MF0602.zip
New bios,anyone tried it?
Gar,is this the G.Skill kit you have in your Maximus?
http://www.memory-configurator.co.uk...kit/index.html
Any probs with it?
Yep same as mine Grimpy... very good ram...
Thats alright then got the same kit coming tomorrow.
OK, 0602 Bios installed now, seems to be the same as 0505......i still have the P95 load issue with volts over 1.5...........ummmmm i didnt check to see if divider 4:5 was fixed, if someone could check that would be cool............other then than cant see any difference.
400FSB here now with 1002 on the ram works fine here, transaction booster disabled and static read control on auto... NB at 1.3 volts, ram at 1.90 set gives about 2 volts they need according the bios readout...
Gonna try to get the heatpipe structure off, Nb temps at 49°C now SB at 52°C, hope to squeeze a few degrees off...
Are you sure your CPU only need 1.36 Vcore for 3.6ghz ?, have you tried with an 8X to rule out the CPU Vcore...