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Originally Posted by shoota
I am not lucky I think :)
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Originally Posted by shoota
I am not lucky I think :)
Motherboard $189? Holy cow. We paid a tad under $100 for ours.
Go for it :), thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by metalop1g
We might do another buy in the future. in case we happen to make it real the thread would become double useful :)
I don't know about unlucky but certainly bad timing. our seller was called rakicomputers. maybe you could email him and see what he can do for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rembulan
i vote for me to not be the hub next time :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Duh
I've been meaning to thank all of you for your patience, and most of all, your trust. This really made me feel part of the team and i had a great time doing it. I think after this week I'm going to have to tune down the crunching. The electricity bill is just way to high now that i'm going back to school. I think i'll just run the quad :) Anyways, enjoy the boards guys and get them crunching for Team XS!
thank you shoota
Sure I will do itQuote:
Originally Posted by shoota
I am interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duh
Btw This arima board have Nvidia chipset did somebody from this thread try use Nvidia Ntune to do OC for this board ? is that work ?
thanks for handling it all, shoota. I've done similiar things in the past for other forums and I wouldn't wish that job on anyone :p: it's for the most part thankless and can be a real headache...Quote:
Originally Posted by shoota
but you did a great job with it :clap: :up:
Thanks a bunch Rise, means alot to me.
and you know i was fully expecting all of that and not one of those things happened. the worst thing that happened was five doa boards but the seller paid for the return shipping (i was sweating that one). Rise was the biggest pm'er with a whopping ONE pm! :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by gongo
Damnit he won't sell any to me?:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacka
How come? On 6th July he said he had 30x8346HE, 96x8346 and >200x8347. :s
Sorry, I so not.
From: metalop1g [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 10:18 PM
To: palm54@charter.net
Subject: 8347
If you have two opteron 8347 shippable to canada, hit me back. I need them
huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by metalop1g
Well "Sorry, I so not." was his answer to my emailQuote:
Originally Posted by shoota
It looks like he is sold out on Ebay, plus he may not ship ouside U.S.
He shipped them to the UK no problem.
Seems unlikely that he'd sell over 400 CPUs in less than a month.
He had the lowest price, I can see others buying them up for resale with a nice profit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacka
huh, that's a weird answer. let me email himQuote:
Originally Posted by metalop1g
Didn't any of you notice S and D are next to each other on the keyboard? 8-)
Oh geez.. now I feel stupid. Thanks :)
Heh, same here :doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by shoota
How hot does the chipset get? Is the passive cooler enough or should I strap a fan to it?
I'm getting ready to order the remaining bits and pieces I need, and thought about ordering a fan for the chipset if it needs it.
I was wondering this too. Not sure how much airflow I'll need over the boards when under water.
ok well i still can't get the board to post. i tried removing the battery for 2 days, using one stick of ram in all the ram slots, the pci-e video card, a pci ati rage xl video card, swap the cpu, reseat the cpu, swap psu. is it even possible to post with only one cpu when it's meant to be used in multiple-processor systems?
i'm using cpu0 socket and tried one stick of ram situated on all of the cpu0dimm slots.
Do you have the memory in CPU0_DIMM0, CPU0_DIMM1, CPU0_DIMM2 and CPU0_DIMM3 or CPU0_DIMM0, CPU1_DIMM0, CPU2_DIMM0 and CPU3_DIMM0?
only in the cpu0 dimm0-3 slots. i tried 4 sticks in cpu0 dimm0-3 and i also tried just one stick at a time.
From what I've read, you need memory in DIMM0 for each CPU.
I found this and had it saved. Might be helpful...
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How to get the board working.
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You need:
- 4x ecc reg ddr2 sticks inserted in CPU0_DIMM1~4
- 4 x 8346HE, 8356 CPU (that we know so far, my guess is newer won't work)
- Any single-slot backplate video card, or any dual-slot card with the end cut off (the second slot is over the power button, removing the power buttons caps should work too)
- sata dvd drive connected to SATA20 OR usb boot "acpi" drive.
- sata hard drive connected anywhere else.
- Power supply with a few 8-pins EPS or pcie connectors, or adapters (you need a total of to fill 8x2 and 7x2 pin)
- Jumper the power supply ON (green wire to any black ground wire)
- OS with 16-core support. Ubuntu 9.10 AMD64 for example.
Step 1
You need to fill CPU0, and CPU0_DIMM1~4 to boot.
To install 8 sticks fill CPU0_DIMM1~4 and CPU1_DIMM1~4.
Fill the two power connectors, leaving the 4 pins on the right empty. You can use PCIE connectors if you connect them backwards or molex-eps adapters.
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4788/pdr1726.jpg
Step 2
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2194/pdr1735.jpg
During installation, hold DEL. Go to boot option, change Priority 1 for "DVD-ROM" or "THUMBDRIVE USB", Save and Exit.
*When installing Linux enter noacpi before installation. (Ubuntu, press F6 and check "acpi=off")
*Haven't tried installing windows7/server you might need to use the shell.
Step 3
Shutdown. Connect the hard drive in SATA20. Power up, hold DEL, change "Hard drive Priority BBS" to "HARD DRIVE xxxgb". Change Boot Priority 1 for "HARD DRIVE xxxgb", Save and Exit.
The OS should start, if not recheck acpi settings in bios/installer.
Step 4
If you're using Ubuntu, update the OS and enable sensors with "sudo apt-get install lm-sensors". Install GKrellM System Monitor, System Profiler to see reported temps. Install Cpu Frequency Monitor to force the CPU at full speed for benchmarks.
<--- Idiot.
it's gets hot and needs at least some minor airflowQuote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
if you are positive that your ram is ok then it sounds like your board went bad from shipping. pm me and lets see if we can get it taken care of by the seller.Quote:
Originally Posted by werdwerdus
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Originally Posted by Jacka
I tested every single board with one cpu in cpu0 and four sticks of ram in dimm0 1~4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacka
So I'm not an idiot?
lol only half of what you said i can confirm as true. one cpu in cpu0 and four rams in dimm0 1~4. but i know one ram for each cpu is not true.
i just noticed that the chipset heatsink is REALLY hot, is that normal or something wrong? i guess if that's normal then the board must messed up somehow. but tbh i don't have any way to know for sure if the ram is good, since it's from ebay and i don't have any other systems that use this kind of ram.
So by "dimm0 1~4" you don't mean DIMM0 of CPU0 to CPU3?Quote:
Originally Posted by shoota
Remainder of the parts I need are ordered. The nuisance stuff. Tubing, clamps, barbs... all the little things. Which sure add up, I went above my budget for this but oh well.
Now I need to design/build the "chassis" I'm going to put all this stuff into.
it gets very hot and needs some air over it.nope. maybe you should send the board back to me or tomorrow i can email the seller and see if he will accept it back from you and send you a new one. whichever you want. i just find it hard to believe that something else isn't going on because, like i've said, i tested each board before i shipped it.Quote:
Originally Posted by werdwerdus
each cpu has it's own four dimm slots. so cpu0 has dimm0 1~4, cpu1 has dimm1 1~4, etc. that's how they're labeled, hope that's clearer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacka
Ah, they're CPUx_DIMMx on the photograph I've got.
Got my board in yesterday, thanks Shoota! Oddball question, will a single 2214 boot this board? Would be nice to test all my junk before I bought the CPUs.
I have no idea but i did test it before i sent it if that makes you feel any better.
Hi there,I have both an Arima Quad and work daily on an Arima NM461 dual socket F.
Original Arima heatsinks heat a lot comparing to other mobos.
The north bridge needs active cooling with a fan.Look at the complete ebay arima quad server and you will see a fan blowing air directly on the northbridge heatsink .
Personally i have upgraded to a Xigmatek Porter N881 HDT northbridge heatsink with great results.
anyone else amazed by the sheer size of this board? i've never owned anything bigger than a regular ATX and it blew me away when I opened it up... crazy stuff.
btw, ordering cpu's & ram this weekend :)
Not worried bout the board so much as I am hooking it up. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by shoota
Got my board! Phew, this thing is huge!
lol i know! that's why we all have to build a special case for them!
Shopping for a power supply now. Single rail, modular...
Thoughts on this one: Thermaltake TPG-650M
if it doesn't have to be modular then this one is $100 cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU i just went to buy the CPU's (so late i know) and the item is no longer listed :( :( :( :(
FML
Well I guess we now know that this board does support higher than the 8247s.
it probably supports all barcelona processors
Yeh the delivery charge is harsh on that! Even shipping to the USA is only $30 cheaper than to the UK. Hell even shipping to Hong Kong (where the seller is) costs as much to ship to as the UK :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryja
Well according to ebay he has 337 left for sale...
Maybe another XS group buy is in order, I'd jump on it this time because the CPU's and PSU are bundled in.
Well cost wise for both of my systems including all shipping to the UK.
Motherboards: £75 each
4x8346HE: £85 (£22 each)
8x1GB ECC DDR2-667: £56 (£7 each)
PSU: £30 each
CPU cooling: £50 per system
Total per system is under £300. Just over half the price of the one found on ebay.
When you put it like that it makes me wish i had jumped on the last XS bulk buy :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacka
What I did instead was buy two Athlon X2 5000's (both unlocked to quads) and overclocked them to 2.86GHz, those two return just under 30k WCG PPD. Both systems costing about £140 each to build.
However for badge hunters, core count is better than PPD.
I wonder if shoota has any spare boards for sale :D
I don't think he does... but I might have a board for sale if I can't find any CPU's for it :(
Found a great deal on a power supply:
Rosewill Libertas Series LIB-650 650W
Looks to have three EPS connectors already. It's super cheap too!
Ok so I'm looking at cheap video cards for the Arima-Google-plex-Megatron motherboard. I'm thinking if I go PCI then I can probably get a passively cooled one, save on energy as well as bonus fan noise.
I still don't have a cooling solution. CoolerMaster is not returning my emails on returning the incorrect heatsink/fans they sent me. So will any socket 939 cooler work? As long as it has a small foot print right? To get to those CPU sockets that are right next to each other and clear the memory banks...thanks for the help guys!
:yepp: :up:
according to the newegg specs on that one, it's only got one 4+4/8pin connector
I had picked up an XFX 650W XXX edition for my tyan board (its got 2 EPS connectors, board needed 2 eps and a 4pin)
80+ bronze, same price as the rosewill (after a MIR mind you) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817207002
Thanks for putting that in perspective Jacka :up:
Somehow I don't think the bump from 1.8 to 2.3 is worth £200... Oh well :rolleyes:
I was comparing the cost to a 860 build as I thought somewhere in this thread someone had said that the ppd was comparable?
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...D/IMG_7317.jpg
:D
Now to come up with some sort of chassis to house all this stuff....
Wow, Sparky, that is nice! I've never done water cooling. What are you up to in parts so far?
nice stuff ... please start a new thread for that build :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
What do you mean chassis :rofl:
yeah that only has one eps (as most psu's do). compusa has ati pci cards for like $12 or $13, works great. any 939 heatsink will do but make sure it can handle the TDP of these quads they're slightly warm under full load.Quote:
Originally Posted by retro77
did you see this suggestion at the top of the page? you won't find a better deal, better hurry tho the promo code won't last forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoota
that's sick! i can't wait to see the final result. i miss my rad :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
I ordered up the Rosewill one I linked to.
I also ordered up these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103075
They look like they'll do. Of course I'll do testing before I go right to 100% load on the Google-plex-Megatron build....
I will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaco
By chassis I mean something to mount everything to. I'm not going to make a case, just an open air multi-bracket basically :yepp: Just trying to determine how to go about it, what material to use and all that http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...eadscratch.gif
So let me get this straight.. you chose rosewill over xfx and corsair? Geez.Quote:
Originally Posted by retro77
Make sure you check your temps first but those heatsinks should work in a well ventilated environment.
Very nice Sparky. :)
Unfortunately the person I was going to buy buying the water blocks off claims not to have received an email I sent telling him all of the items I want to buy and asking him to check if they had enough in stock.
Odd that he never received it when my delivery report says he did. :rolleyes: :down:
I'll keep looking for suitable blocks, but failing that it looks like I'll be on air. :shrug:
FedEx came today with my last part I needed, the four 8350's that means build day Saturday or maybe I'll build it tonight.
are these an OK alternate to the CPU's we were originally looking at? http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-Third-Genera...781932?pt=CPUs
they are $40 more each, but I can't seem to find anything anywhere near the price of the other ones shoota originally linked to :shrug:
They should work. It's probably worth emailing the seller to see if he can do a better price if you buy 4 of them.
yeah i tried "that is the bottom price" was his response. i'll debate a bit before i jump in and buy it. i feel like a schmuck paying more than 2x what the others were :slap:
yeah but you're getting 100 MHz per cpu more than us for a grand total of 400 MHz lol! You're gonna kill us in the long run.
edit: just thought of something. $65 x 4 = $260
maybe you should make an offer for four of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-OPTERON-QUAD...ing_Components
At listed price four would be $360. If you can get him to accept an offer then for just a little more you get faster cpu's at the same TDP. Just a thought.
Edit 2: That misleading ad is only for one processor. But you catch my drift here. Search ebay and make some offers, who knows you might get lucky.
worst part is that about a year or so ago, it wasnt impossible to find 8356 procs for ~70 each
I started putting it together tonight. Started with one chip to see if it would post, and now I'm going to add the other 3 and get this thing on the grid.:yepp:
Seeing as the water block sale fell through, I'm having to look at other options.
What do you think of these?
http://www.dynatron-corp.com/upload/...8573.31251.jpg
http://www.dynatron-corp.com/en/prod...v=&id=114&in=0
They're rated for use on 95W TDP (75W ACP) CPUs so they should be fine on mine (79W TDP (55W ACP)).
I have four of that. That's what I was referring to. 60mm fans @ 6000 rpm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacka
If you like silence, don't get it.
Otherwise, they work great.
What are your CPUs and temperatures?
My CPUs were 8347s and I didn't really check temps under load -- I only checked to see everything was working perfectly, and it was. Idled in high 20s very low 30s... I know idle temps don't mean much, but considering I was using a 2" cooler, that was pretty good.
They're currently sitting somewhere, since I sold all the CPUs I had to people on this forum. :)
EDIT: ambient was 17-19C.
I have one as well, the noise is real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deluded
http://i.imgur.com/PEclz.jpg
Is this wrong? :$
yes. you have no heatsinks, just playing :) i'll send you the board info right quick
Aha, so you fill up CPU0, CPU1, etc.
I assumed you'd give memory to each CPU, but I suppose it depends how the chipset works. Shared memory between all CPUs as opposed to keeping it separate.
Thank you very much, sir!
You're very welcome
Swapped the RAM. :)
I'm going to order the PSUs tonight.
Does anybody know how much space a full install of Ubuntu/SUSE including BOINC takes up?
:DQuote:
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YOUR ORDER SUMMARY
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Manufacturer : XFX
Product : 650W XXX Edition Single Rail
Quicklinx : 6CN5Q2
Quantity : 2
Price exc VAT : £119.14
Price inc VAT : £139.98
Manufacturer : CORSAIR
Product : Power Series 400 Watt ATX PS/2
Quicklinx : 5GK2RC
Quantity : 2
Price exc VAT : £51.00
Price inc VAT : £59.92
£70 per XFX 650W and £30 per CX400.
Going to keep the TX650 for my Commando or something.
Aha great. I'll pick up some 4GB flash drives for these then. Save a bit of energy and space. :up:
12 GB in the era of 1TB hard drives is nothing. Barely over 1% of total capacity :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by gongo
So you put 7 on one of these, or just another desktop?
True, but bloated code is sloppy code, and sloppy code makes for bugs, blue screens, big security holes and hidden "extras" that call home to tell MS what you have installed and if the music/movies etc you have satisfy THEIR view of legitimate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
So my issue has been trying to find 16 cpus if anyone runs across a seller with more than 16 post up here. I have an offer out to a few ebay ones but only for 8 figure I can at least get half of my MB's working :rolleyes:
Uh I somehow doubt that windows is calling MS reporting on you and what you have on your computer :eh: They don't have your name or address or anything like that anyway unless you gave it to them :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by D_A
hey i think we're all for that. a few now and the rest later when a good deal pops up. sounds like a planQuote:
Originally Posted by MaxCFM
Win7 supported my USB wireless nic instantly. Linux took a few hours of trial and error, hunting down broken links etc then it stopped working after letting the OS update. Linux is great at several things but it is not always the best/easiest option.Quote:
Originally Posted by gongo
I've *heard* that Server 2008 R2 which is based on Win7 does support EFI. I plan on finding out.
Didn't you register your license? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
and the calling home part has been public knowledge for a while (just one link, there's plenty more): http://technews.am/conversations/the..._s_piracy_free
No, I never do. I just activate, not register, since that is optional and I really don't care for MS to have all my info :)Quote:
Originally Posted by D_A
In other news, I have a project log up in the watercooling build log area :D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=257334
Comments and suggestions are welcome!
So whats the cost for a full setup then, mobo, ram, cpu's? 45 pages and i never saw anything soild?
For the board, CPUs, and RAM I paid about $260-ish. I got a good deal on some memory at work, $60 for 8GB, but you could probably still find 4GB for that price (and 8GB is overkill, just had that much because that is what was available).
Oh well, they've only got your IP then ... if anything on your system gets flagged as "naughty naughty" by their anti piracy algorithms, that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
( I never registered back when I ran Windows, either. Make the bastiches work for it, I say! )
Humm not bad, if there was a way to get everything all in one box delievered i'd partakeQuote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
heck i'd run two
but there is a way, it just ain't cheap: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-AMD-8356-2-3...item1c14ab10caQuote:
Originally Posted by Tetrafluorometh