My mistake 2DIFF
Correction Normal CPU Vcore: 1.325
2DIFF Try to test Your mem settings with Prime an also change your PSU. 700W is not enough for your ATI Crossfire and overclocking ;)
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My mistake 2DIFF
Correction Normal CPU Vcore: 1.325
2DIFF Try to test Your mem settings with Prime an also change your PSU. 700W is not enough for your ATI Crossfire and overclocking ;)
Does anyone have the new F7h beta bios?
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php
They are also listing F1 bios for an X38-DS4 mobo?
-> ChrissTi: Thanks for your advice. I always test with Orthos. Unlike you, I have to raise FSB and MHC voltages to reach 3.520 Ghz and I always have to stay with a DRAM:FSB of 1:1. Above 440 Mhz FSB is no stability. I disagree with the fact that 700W isn't enough. This IS my new PSU. Had a 500W Seasonic before and was running 2 X1950Pro's in CF, with a CPU/FSB OC of 60% (on GA-965P-DS3). It's a miracle to me how you get 3.62 Ghz on air. Without cooling the NB with water, I can't OC anything. Well you have the DQ6, I have the DS5 - allthough I don't see any other difference than the LAN-Chip, it seems that there is more OC potential on the DQ6.
Heat heatpipe design:
About heatpipe: I cut mine in half (or better three pieces) and trashed the NB-part. The whole thing is cheap (feels like junk) as hell, and: what's the idea of transporting the heat from the NB (which heats the most) to the SB and the convertors via heatpipe? Since I don't have them connected anymore the SB and convertor part don't even get hand-hot.
Need advice: Wow much performance gain would I probably get by putting some Crucial Ballistix 2x1GB, DDR2-1066, CL5-5-5-15 (BL2KIT12864AA1065) in this system? Price is very low at the time, and chrismas and all of that, so I was wondering...thanks
Got my new G.Skill 8000 PQ 4Gb and I would like to share timings and settings with you guys (with anyone who has this babies at least).
I'm running an E6750 @ 450x8 = 3600Mhz with vcore 1.35v (Everest says 1.34v, CPU-Z flutuates between 1.328 and 1.344)
RAM with 2.40 divider @ 1080Mhz with 1.98v
Everest timings dump:
Memory Timings:
CAS Latency (CL) 5T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 5T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 5T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 15T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 54T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 5T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 17T
Read To Read Delay (tRTR) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Write Delay (tRTW) 8T
Write To Read Delay (tWTR) Same Rank: 13T, Different Rank: 5T
Write To Write Delay (tWTW) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP) 7T
Write To Precharge Delay (tWTP) 17T
Refresh Period (tREF) 4213T
DRAM Read ODT 3T
DRAM Write ODT 6T
MCH Read ODT 8T
Performance Level 7
Read Delay Phase Adjust Neutral
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay 7T
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay 7T
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay 8T
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay 7T
I got a blue screen just half an hour ago while browsing some photos... Everest stress test won't crash within 5min. Maybe is the memory too tight and bluescreening my system?
Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)
First of all, i seriously doubt you can run the E6750 at 1.35v at 3,6ghz. I bet you'd have to up it to atleast 1.45v. I have the same cpu and i need 1.55v to be 100% stable on this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
Also, memory is very touchy about running past 1066 on this system when using more than 1 module,- especially when using more than 2. I'd try 5-7-7-24 and up DDR voltage to 2.25
Get OCCT. If you can go past 2 hours in it without crashing you're most likely stable.
I have those exact sticks, and they will be unstable on stock settings, even if you set TRD manually,- atleast on my board.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2DIFF
The only way i could get these sticks stable was with 4-7-7-24 TRD:9 at 1:1 (450mhz/900mhz ddr2) 2.25v
Any other setting ive tried (and ive tried them all at this point) will result in OCCT crashing after anything between 1 second and about 25 minutes.
Funny part is i can use performance enhance: turbo at the settings mentioned above without any loss of stability.
Stable in my book is OCCT running at ram+cpu for 8+ hours.
Thanks for your reply :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zicada
1.45v?! man, isn't that too high? Before changing memory I was running it at 3200Mhz with 1.28v and it was stable with gaming and everything... I never thought this CPU would need that many voltage with OC... :/
my sticks are the blue G.Skills (stock 1000Mhz 5-5-5-15). You don't think they can run 1080 with the stock timings? maybe just upping the tRAS to 18 will do it?
I will try OCCT. Thanks!
EDIT: and I'm running with two 2Gb modules.
Youre aware you can dl directly from that site right ? In the bottom of the page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Im testing it now. It does'nt seem to perform any better than the previous ones. Droop is still also the same afaict.
e6750 is 1.35 at default 2,66ghz. Ive run it for a long time on 1.6v at 3.8 no problemo. As long as your cores are below 75C you should be fine. (these are bios settings, 1.6v would usually be 1.55v in OS under load cause of the bad droop).Quote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
With memory i guess its just trial and error. All hardware is different,- its all a big lottery. Just set up some decent setup and see how it fares in OCCT. If you crash within 30 minutes you need to either slack off settings or increase voltage and try again.
Thanks. I will try 1.45 in BIOS. Since I'm with stock cooling I'll keep an eye on the core temps just in case...Quote:
Originally Posted by zicada
hi
just installed my ninja plus revision B on x38-dq6.
ive up'd to:
3.2ghz (q6600)
1066mhz dom pc800 ram at
400fsb (2.66d)
its running around 52 deg c ( via core temp .95.4)
before on stock at 2.8ghz (which is lower) i was at around 60 degrees on load
running prime.So pretty great because also i have my case fan turned down at the moment. :)
Not all the cores were the same temp on stock cooling , core 3 was averaging '5' degrees cooler always. i thought perhaps the cooler needed laping?
now core 1 is averaging 3 degrees lower so a bit better.
i may re- lap the cooler or even lap the cpu at some time ..But, as they aint broke im not gonna try and fix at the moment,
thanks to shanks for the advice !!
peace:)
freqz
gar look what dfi can do with 4 sticks:eek:
i know not verry good but its only first bios
can do 1200+ but need 2.3v :(
On Air cooling :)
I think I'll drop a little the frequencyes ... Too hot :) I think I reached the maximum of that CPU on air... The voltage I set in bios is 1.65
I'm impressed. Look at my results, I guess I have to optimize my cooling system. Set the same voltage as you in Bios, 1.65. CPU-Z says it's a DQ6, but it's a DS5. Will try to go a little higher, but I doubt the Mem will handle it.
Attachment 69097
New Bios F7H:
http://rapidshare.com/files/77686852/x38dq6.f7h.html
F7H solved sata problems :)
Memory set to tighter timings ... so it's not so overclockable like in the older bios versions.
'Little more. Must say this is a NO fan (@all) watercooling system. (Fans: hate them. Turning, squealing, blowing, gasping, getting dirty :) ).
http://192.168.2.169:80/OPEN4ALL/3640.jpg
BTW, these are the temps 2 secs after quitting Orthos:
http://192.168.2.169:80/OPEN4ALL/IDLE_TEMPS.jpg
post the pics again :)
If a fan fails there is no risk in burning something, if one of the pipes breaks what happens ? :confused:
Got my X38T-DQ6 toady and its Rev 1.1. :)
to bad my QX9650 and ram is still on its way.
Problems that might apear on watercooling systems.
http://fredrik.hubbe.net/silence/wat...intenance.html
i had big problem when i overclocking my e6600@3200 8x400 3dmark06 score go down about 6600pts. stock clock i get about 10000
Sambe, what is the memory frequency ? What GPU ?
BFG 8800GTX OC with EK Fullcover block. i have Mushkin XP2-6400 4-4-3-10 stock value FSB/Mem 1:1. I have f5h bios
-> ChrissTi: Thanks! Guess I got some protozoa in my system, mutating and finally taking over my central nervous system (read PKD 4more)...whatever, this' the highest I'll get, before improving my cooling system. Greetz from SwaziakaSwizzaland
http://192.168.2.169:80/OPEN4ALL/3680.jpg
Hornet..please post pics if you can, high res if you can...pics of the various chipsets etc., so we can see the differences in the PCB.
Also, did you buy it retail...and where?
i'll do it tomorrow. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
yep, i bought it retail in a shop in austria, but that shop got it from a bigger retailer. Dont ask me from which one, but it was from germany.
hello
are people having any fun oc'ing past 1066mhz with the new beta bios?:wiggle:
X38-DS4 now listed at GB:
http://www.giga-byte.com.tw/Support/...ProductID=2736
My system mem speed is 1080 with the latest F7H bios 5 6 6 18 :wiggle:
and I guess I could do more if my memory were identical. Right now they are 2x1G ADATA Extreme Edition 800+ and 2x1G Team Group Extreme 800. I'll wait and see maybe I'll get one 2x2G 4 4.. at 1066, but right now they are too expensive here ... about 1000$ :confused:
X38-DS4 does not have Quad-Triple Phase Power ...
DS4 dosen't have 12 phase, it has 6 phase...which is why it's cheaper.
Which ACPI suspend type is best?, S1 or S3?...S3 is enabled by default...what is the difference in the two?
I read the Wiki explanation for S1/S3...but what setting do most of you guys use?....i normally use S1.
S1 - Power to the CPU and RAM is maintained
S3- Only power to the RAM is mainained ...
S3 is good if you have an UPS, or windows vista which saves Mem data to the HDD before entering S3 (combination beetwen hibernation and S3) :)
Based upon the PDF manual for the X38-DS4...it appears the bios flash parts have been changed to a Winbond 25X80 part. What does this mean in practice?
http://www.eeproductcenter.com/artic...leID=181503961
I got that, it uses less power...any other differences?, perhaps speed etc. in terms of how fast the system resumes?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
Hmm..the Winbond flash looks as if it'll be much faster at flashing bios then before.
Hornet...can you try get a closeup of the dual bios flash parts?, are they Winbond?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
S3 uses less power of corse :) is just the mem powered
as promised, some screens:
(sry for the average quality, the shots are only taken with my backup camara)
if you need other areas just say it.
Gigabyte GA-X38T-DQ6 Rev. 1.1
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6...viewhc0.th.jpg
Cpu socket:
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9...orthzu3.th.jpghttp://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4296/cpujl0.th.jpg
Northbridge and surroundings:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2...dge2nn2.th.jpghttp://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6...idgexq0.th.jpghttp://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9...idgebe1.th.jpghttp://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9...outhdo5.th.jpg
Southbridge and surroundings:
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3...dge2hz0.th.jpghttp://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5...idgevq2.th.jpghttp://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2...naelro2.th.jpg
Bios Area:
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7256/biostn1.th.jpg
chips say:
MX -15G
25L8005M2C
2W71660
googled it, they are by Macronix (Datasheet)
Voltage regulators:
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/116/vrmsmj2.th.jpg
Power connector area:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4...rramir5.th.jpg
Various shots:
Bottom area (with rev 1.1 sticker)
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4701/rev11ti4.th.jpg
Realtek Sound:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/7...ltekgx2.th.jpg
Pci 1x area:
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8...lotskv4.th.jpg
Realtek Lan:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9913/nicvn3.th.jpg
Gigabyte Sata controller:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6...sataep8.th.jpg
1000$?! holy :banana::banana::banana::banana:!! where do you live, in the middle of the atlantic?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrissTi
sorry to sound a bit behind > where do you down the latest x38-dq6 bios?
i'll like to see if its fixed the dual channel 1066 problem
you did very well to tune your baord at 1080 with 4 unmatched modules.:)
thanks for any help:)
good luck tuning your new board hornet331 be interesting to see how it compares to the x38 dq6.
still waiting for my ram. :(
and i have a bad feeling that i wont see it befor the new year...
Quote:
Originally Posted by freqy
http://rapidshare.com/files/77686852/x38dq6.f7h.html
Happy to report the SATA optical drive issue has been fixed with this bios :)
My Plextor 716DA is now detected in bios.
A new beta for the X38-DS4 is being listed at:
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php
Beta F2f.
Datasheet for the Intersil ISL6327CRZ:
http://pdf1.alldatasheet.co.kr/datas...SL6327CRZ.html
APL1117A:
http://www.anpec.com.tw/products/dow...17/APL1117.htm
You know that Gigabyte SATAII chip?...it really gets hot!...might i suggest putting a small heatsink on there.
Many thanks for the first class pics Hornet, it be nice if someone gave us a masterclass on the various components of a mobo, how they all work together etc.
thanks for the link ,hey must be nice to have a sata dvd drive rather thana big clumbsy IDE version. :)
hmm?...i thinks i might give this bios a little go , see if it has anything to offer. i have a spare day to try it out.
i heard someone on here talk about cooling the NB and getting better performance. maybe this board is a bit flawed hardware wise?
me shall report backs
peace:)
Hi,
Just got my X38-DQ6 and will start my rebuild tomorrow.
This is probably a dumb question, but I have seen no documentation about this other than the manual. Out of our two PCI-E slots, does it matter which one we install the video card? I have the 8800GTS G92 512MB card and the manual does mention to use the slot closest to the power supply, but I thought if I installed it in the other one it may help with the heat (since it would be further from the NB and CPU). What is the norm with the typical users here? :shrug:
Also, the Gigabyte manual mentions installing power to the motherboards PCIE_12V connector if you have two cards. Just to confirm, there is really no reason to connect to this with only one card.
Thanks!
hi panzer have fun building your board tomrw.
i have just one card too...i put it in the one furthest from my pci cards.....i dont think there is a problem because in the bios you can select the slot to be detected first.
good idea to keep it away from the nb ...seems a great idea if you have no sensitive pci cards.
also i read somewhere to conect the power to the pcie socket on the board if you have one because it aids stability. i have done this and it works fine, maybe someone else can add further,:)
ive deleted this post as the info i gave was inaccurate. i thought f7h gave me some added benifits regarding ram overclocking...it may for others but i found problems 2hrs+ on prime. :(
im wondering how you guys know what to type here?
:shrug:
CPU?PCIEX CLOCK DRIVING CONTROL =?
PCI-E overvoltage control = ?
thanks:)
Hi Panzer use either slot. tbh if there's a socket I plug iy in where's the harm??
I've only run with 1 xcard but going back to nf4 days with a DFI board , i always plug the cables in.
luck:)
Good question...same for "Sketch skew control"...there's nothing in the manual (terms are not even listed). I'd really like to know how these things work and/or are linked together. If they don't put it in the manual, it'll be nice to offer a knowledge base or something for those who'd like to know more. Didn't find anything in the FAQ's though. If they say that a mobo is "Over-clocking Enhanced", they should also provide the infos you need to get the rest out of your system. PCI-E overvoltage control never changed anything in terms of graphics performance in my case.Quote:
Originally Posted by freqy
I'm guessing Gigabyte are shooting for an official F7 bios to lauch Rev 1.1 of the X38?
Guys:
http://oc.gigabyte.us/index.php
Gigabyte's Overcloking contest. For owners of P35 and X38 line of motherboards.
Good luck! :D
hmmm....
$2500 isn't much of an incentive. Anyone wanting to try and win would most likely have to spend considerably more than that on their system :rofl:
In addition, it also looks like you're obliged to buy 3DMark06 :shakes:
It looks like systems are going to be compared based on their 3DMark06 score, so you're probably gonna need dual graphics to pump up that score. Stability doesn't seem to be necessary - just enough to get that 3DMark score. There also seems to be no restriction on cooling solutions.
The fact that I don't live in the US or Canada means I'm ineligible, but not sure I would have bothered anyway :ROTF:
Let's hope so. It's about time they released a decent bios for this board :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
yeah, I guess you're right... I'm not from the USA or Canada either. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by ~aoe~
first run, nothing special, just adjustet voltages and raised cpu/fsb clock
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1364/pirunii5.th.jpg
How is the F7H BIOS compared to the F5H?Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Because ill get my Gigabyte GA X38-DQ6 tomorrow :p: and would like the best of the best haha :rofl:
Hmm, I figure it's probably best to ask here before I run off and make any threads about it or such...
Does anyone know of any issues with the X38-DQ6 (rev 1.0) and HD2900 crossfire? I ask because I've had nothing but problems with this setup from the start. I get massive flickering and horizontal scrolling bars during freeze frames (death shots) in TF2, Test Drive Unlimited has flickering sunlight occasionally, King of Clubs (budget mini golf game) has wierd 'bleeding' menu effects where my mouse cursor forever leaves an overlaying trail. In TF2, each freeze frame seems to 'stick' in memory, and the next time I get a freeze frame, it's semi transparent with the previous freeze frame shot overlayed into it... This can continue all night untill I've got 20 or more freeze frame shots all blending in to each other.
I've tried every driver imaginable, I've tried running everything at stock, I've tested each card individually both in my sytem and others (they function perfectly as individual cards), I've tried crossfire with one bridge instead of two (this makes the flickering slightly more bearable), I've purchased new crossfire bridges to rule those out, I've reinstalled Windows (I'm running XP), i've adjusted every BIOS setting I can possibly think of that could be a culprit. All of my parts are brand new (Q6600, 2gb Reaper HPC pc6400).
I'm at a loss. I've tested everything I can possibly think of. I know of one other person having almost identical problems to me who has done all of the same, and seems to believe it's got something to do with the motherboard. Any ideas? I understand that TF2 (and source games as a whole) are having a lot of issues recently, but I get this no matter what driver I use... And i've tried back to the 7.5's now. Call of Duty 4 also displays occasional random flashes of light, or what could be polygons flying around (every few minutes this might happen). Nothing ever shows up in screenshots.
The 8800 GTS 512 is a dual slot cooler. In a normal mid-tower config it will suck air from the bottom direction of the case and the edges of the card and exhaust the hot air out of the back of the case. Any heat from the CPU area would, in theory, rise away from the vid card. While I don't think that there is a problem with using PEG2 I don't think it will make a difference either way but I'm not a thermal engineer either :DQuote:
Originally Posted by panzer948
IMHO it's better safe than sorry, if you have the plug on the PSU and there's no good reason NOT to then plug it up. It's not going to use any additional juice and if it does that means you needed it to begin with. The real issue would be a year down the road and you upgrade or add something and the system gets flaky and you forgot that you didn't connect it and spend 4 days troubleshooting before you remember (not that I've ever done anything like that...)Quote:
Originally Posted by panzer948
Good luck on the build...
@Sobek: I have the T version (1.0) and had similar problems, also could not get the board prime stable at ALL on any settings....until I removed the Gigabyte Sata driver...and now it is rock solid, although I cant get the FSB over 375, think it has something to do with the NB getting hot, will let everyone know when I get all my watercooling gear in after the holidays whether or not that helps...My problems were only apparent when I had 2nd 3870 in the computer...didnt matter which board was in which slot and whether or not I had the crossfire cable attached, just having two vid cards in the slots seemed to do it. I get windows wanting to install new hardware everytime it boots, but since I am not using those 2 sata ports atm, I ignore it...I had tried removing the JMB ide controller, but that didnt work. It took me a WHILE to finally make it fail to the point where win xp refused to see the 2nd card until I started removing drivers out of the system...I also removed the EasyTune utility in all of that, since I do all my OCing in the bios anyway...But since those pcie 2.0 slots go through the NB directly I think there may be a bug either in the NB itself or just in all the fubared bioses we get from GB...anyhow thats how I solved my problem, hope it helps you and others....
Interesting. So removing the Gigabyte Sata Driver cleared up your issues (similar flickering in games and such?). I'm quite happy with system stability, haven't run prime for as long as I probably should (did about 6 hours overnight while I slept and it was still ticking along without issue when I woke up), so it's really only the problems with games.
If uninstalling Gigabytes sata driver did the trick for you, then by god I'm trying that the instant I get in the door today :P
*edit* I've already gone as far as uninstalling Quicktime, FRAPS, and anything else anyone's ever mentioned that might be a cause. If it really is an NB issue, I wonder if a Rev 1.1 board would help at all? Not sure what's changed with 1.1, quite frankly I expected to get one to begin with since I had to wait to buy this board because new stock was entering the country when I ordered.
*double-edit* Wierd, thought I had my system specs setup in my sig already. Hmpf.
Prime for me would lock up within 5 minutes on large ffts...might be a ddr3 thing tho...I did have flickering on all the 'intro' screens for Crysis, COD4, etc, but gameplay was pretty good (except for random system reboots/lockups, which is what drove me to start agressively tracking this problem down) and now that has gone away...Crysis on all High settings with 4xAA is sweet, tho a bit jerky, I havent OC'ed my 3870's yet, still playing with the memory timings and such.
I too searched far and wide on the net and could find nothing on this issue, some days it sucks being on the pointed end of the stick ;) When it was happening it felt like an IRQ conflict from back in the day, and that was where I first concentrated my efforts, but for me its something with that 2nd set of sata ports. Maybe mine are defective, I dunno...be a good reason to rma for a 1.1 board tho ;)
So far the only thing extreme about this board is the amount of time it has cost me just to get it to run near stock speeds...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Isepick
interesstening that your jmicron sata controller also seems fubar, i have the same probleme here (Rev 1.1 X38T).
I had my optical drives controlled by the Jmicron but everytime i installed the drivers my system began to stutter while starting windows or shuting it down...
I removed the drivers and disabled it in bios -> rock stabel since than...
But its strange, cause on my old 965P-DS4 has the same Jmicron controller and it works without a problem...
I dont have anything using the ide or the gigabyte sata ports atm, my optical drive is on a regular intel sata port...but I was having serious issues with the optical drive plugged into one of the GB sata ports, every time I'd load a dvd xp would just stop for about 15 seconds or so, or go to my computer, or anything that would cause it to access the drive...The jmicron is on the same irq as the video cards though, which is why I disabled it initally, tho it seemed to only help temporarily, I've since reenabled it, and the system is ok, but I dont have anything plugged into it, either. Something with that X38 NB is odd tho, or maybe its the bioses, not sure, be interesting to see if anybody else is having problems on similar (non GB) X38 boards...
Sobek: Oh and to clarify it was the GB RAID Controller driver I removed, which I think is the same thing anyway :)
very nice hornet ..i was like wwooooahw :shocked: 4.0gig on first attempt .!!! then i saw you had the posh quad!! hahah:ROTF: coool and ddr3 1800 woooo!! wonder how low you can get the latencies?
have fun . keep posting your results ....and temperatures off core temp.
I removed the Gigabyte Raid Controller drivers, restarted, but no difference. Guess it lies somewhere else :(
i just scraped half of the heat transfer paste off my q6600 and the temps have gone down 5 degrees. i still need to lap the cpu tho...one core is 3-5 degrees lower all the time. also i've noticed that core temp. changes its mine as to which core is which ..sometimes 1 is 3 and sometimes it is 2...weird.. it happens when i reboot once in a while.
sobek and isepick you should post your intelligent tweaker settings with your components so we can all see where you might need to change parameters.
even me with a month or 2 on this board might spot a problem area.
there is a template some where on this thread copy and insert your settings.
peace:)
the difference is normal on my "old" E6600 i had a difference of 3°C between the 2 cores, now on my quad thers also a difference of 3-4°C.
You'll have to forgive me, this is my first Intel board in a long, long, long, LONG time :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by freqy
Intelligent Tweaker would be the menu in which you adjust all of your voltages and such, right? Pretty sure I've adjusted just about everything there that could possibly account for problematic Crossfire, but I'll try anything at this rate.
Freqy: I have the ddr3 board, my settings are different in places.
Sobek: Hmmmm, I did remove the Easy Tune software at the same time, so perhaps that was the conflict. The actual error that I got that led me to start disabling everything was "Gpcidrv could not start" or some such, and it wouldnt recognized the 2nd card in device manager, but it took a while for that to show up....Settings for me in the MIB page of bios that helped stability before the removal of the drivers/software was to set the GMCH overvoltage to +.05 instead of the recommended +.15, and the G(MCH) clock skew to +900 ps...interesting note on that, it seemed that in tweaking that setting that the board was 'more' stable on increments of 300 ps (300,600,900,1200 and 1500) with sort of like a bell curve of those points...most other values would not even boot for me there....But I have the ddr3 board and memory, so your mileage may vary on that setting....My settings are still at what I said above, and I havent adjusted them since I got the board stable, since I was so freakin happy to run prime for >15 minutes without a lockup...btw I ran it for 24 hours with no problems. Gonna spend my free time this weekend seeing how fast we can go and will post screenies accordingly :D
Good Luck
damn, I just wish gigabyte solved this cold boot bug... imho is the most annoying bug of this revision. it's great that they put out a new pcb revision in the future, but with the x45 delayed and all that... :P
What ended up solving the cold boot problem for me was a new power supply. I had an Enermax Infiniti 720 Watt and with it I could not overclock at all without encountering the cold boot bug and I needed to pump loads of volts to the CPU to get any kind of speed out of it. I popped in a PCP&C Silencer 750 Watt and all my problems went away. I can overclock without cold boot bug and I need way less VCORE than before. This seems to be one of those boards that is very picky about power supplies.
Is station-drivers sill down?
Thankyou everyone for the great forum. I have read the thread from front to back, and tried many of the suggested bios setting only to find more BSOD than before. On stock settings I can surf the internet, do basic stuff, but when I try to play Supreme Commander (really the whole reason I built this system...and of course to try to learn to do this sort of thing) It crashes..."supreme commander has stopped working" I believe I have narrowed down to memory management issue (I have the 1066 Corsair Dominator) as this is a common BSOD error. My specs are below. UTD with latest drivers. Any help would be appreciated
Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6, rev. 1.0, bios F6b
Sapphire Radeon HD 2900XT 512MG, 5512 bit, GDDR3 (have two for
crossfire, but now only using one)
PC power and Cooling 750W crossfire edition PSU
Intel Conroe E6850 CPU
Corsair Dominator 2GB (2x1GB) Twin2X2048-8500C5D
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200RPM 32mb cache SATA
HD
Samsung 20X DVD+/-R Burner, SATA
Windows Vista Home premium 32 bit (should have probably gone 64...)
Gigabyte GH-PCU22VG 105mm CPU cooler (this fits great...don't have to mod
the copper heat sink on back...temps <30 ALL THE TIME)
Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound
Aero cool ZeroDegree ATX Case (nice 25cm fan on the side...but have to
work upside down...)
Thanks in advance for any help offered.
hmmm, that's interesting... I'm using an Enermax Liberty 500, maybe I should change to a more powerful one.Quote:
Originally Posted by century child
That would be a wise move. I can whole-heartedly recommend the PC Power & Cooling 750 Watt. It is a very fine product. Too bad it's not modular like the Infiniti and your Liberty but the quality is second to none. If you can't live without a modular supply, one of the Corsair units would be an excellent choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caped Crusader
Hey, slightly off topic, but thought this was the best place to post.
I am about to build my first pc in a long time.
Planning to buy the x38-DQ6 and QX9650, but I would really like to here what memory everyone recommends or has used with success. I want to run 4GB...but still deciding on a 32-bit or 64-bit OS.
I was considering Corsair Dominator 9136C5 which is on Gigabyte's approved list, but there appears to be some general issues with compatibility at the moment if you fill all 4 slots with any given memory. Perhaps I need 2Gb modules in 2 slots.
Any recommendations/ what has worked for you (4GB)?
Thanks
Funny, I was thinking precisely on the Corsair Modular, because now I'm spoiled and can't live without a modular one :DQuote:
Originally Posted by century child
So, you think the Corsair will do a good job? Sorry for my 'noobiness' but I'm no expert when it comes to PSU's...
The Corsair units have an excellent reputation and would be a good choice. Check out the TX750. It should do you right. It's not all that much more expensive than the lower wattage units so unless you are on a really tight budget, you should probably get the strongest one.
Look into the G.Skill f2-8000CL5D 4 GB set. If you look here in the memory foum you'll find plenty of posts about it. It's some good stuff. In my opinion, if you're going to go 4 GB, you might as well go 64-bit so you can use it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by burton610
The G.SKILL 4Gb kit is the best price/performance value right now. $115 for a 4GB with free shipping from newegg. The memory runs cool, uses low voltage...default is 1000MHz but many are running higher such as 1066MHz+.
Schlomster have you ran memtest ? and prime95? can you post your intelligent tweaker bios settings on this thread so we can see?
you need a stable system to run anything...even at stock values your machine can be unstable....sounds wild but true..
progs needed
coretemp
prime95
memtest86
cpu-z helps too
Maybe I'll go with the Silencer 750 from PCP&C instead, because the price difference from the Corsair at the same wattage is irrelevant. It's not modular but since I have a Corsair CM690 case, and since the unused cables rest at the bottom of the case, they won't get in the way of the components.Quote:
Originally Posted by century child
I understand it's one of the best PSUs around... and since you said it solved your cold boot problem, I might give it a try. Maybe i'll get lucky with that too. :)
Hornet, how many fins does the Rev 1.1 X38T heatsink have on the NB?, is it 22 or 30?
Guys, are we looking at physical limitations on our original 1.0 boards compared to the 1.1 revision?
Because I could never get my memory to overclock decently on this original board.
Dom
can somebody post "right" bios setting to my. Because i had strange problem with my 8800GTX and X38-DQ6,E6600. With Basic settings i get 3dmark06 about 10000pts. But if i overclocking my system example 8x400 1:1 mem (mushkin XP2-6400) my 3dmark score dropping to 6000-7000pts. I tried reset bios, update it etc. I test 8x400 stability 41h with orthos.
Not sure what else to do now. I've removed those Gigabyte raid drivers, disabled all unnecessary SATA and IDE ports (even tried using a SATA PCI card to bypass the onboard completely - no change), don't have EzyTune installed anyway. Interesting, too, that clock skew setting you've changed to +900 ps only goes to a max of 750 ps on mine...Quote:
Originally Posted by Isepick
Any other ideas? I know my videocards aren't faulty (unless by some mind boggling chance all four of my Crossfire interconnect ports have all become damaged or something), my ram is A.OK, my CPU is stable and solid (stock or overclocked), and I've got the latest BIOS installed. My PSU is more than enough for my setup (and I've got a second one spare that I've now tested just to be sure).
I'm at a loss. I'm so sure it's something with the motherboard, but what more can I do?
*edit* It's either the board, or I'm somehow playing ALL of the most problematic and anti-crossfire games around (including all Source based games? I know TF2 has had it's issues with HD cards and Crossfire, but I was sure everything was fixed now).