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I'm using both blue slots 1 & 3. The DDR speed seems to make a difference in whether or not my system will boot when I change the fsb so I'm running a lowered DDR speed with Prime95 to see if it makes a difference with crashing. Although, the vcore still seems low because at default cpu speed and voltage uguru shows 1.24 under load.
i believe the CPU Thermal is just for throttling the cpu as you approach the magical temp limit....once you reach that magical high temperature limit, the cpu shuts itself down...you see a system freeze...no more heat.:)
i've used 1, 2 and 3 slots...my Dominators, which i am trying to sell, had to be in slots 2 & 3 since my Panaflo fan attached to the push-me side of the Ultra-X would not allow the no. 1 slot to be occupied with a high rise heatsink like is on the Dominator.
i have found no significant difference in overclock between using dimm slot 1 or 2
The IP35pro will never be faster than the DFI 965s clock per clock using the same settings... The 965-s chipset was a lil tweaked to handle high fsb but performance is still very good and its just a tad slower than the Quad GT... This is Quad GT's time again at 3600mhz ( 514fsb * 7 ) 1:1, my DFI was 5 sec slower but the bench below was done by the WR holder for E6600...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2892/cetvrtinb6.jpg
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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
The QuadGT is very capable as you can see :D....
I dont know what other test we can do to determine what strap we're running but Im pretty sure my E6600 is running at 1066strap regardless of dividers.....
Quick but random question, which GTLREF values do you guys change for a dual core? Both 0-1 and 2-3 or just one of those?
I think I answered my own question, someone please confirm
Looking at figure 3 here: http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=87
You can see that GTLREF 0+2 are for the 0/1 Cores while 1/3 are for the 2/3 Cores, so dual core users only need to adjust 0+2 right?
Can anyone tell me what vcore that you would get in uguru on stock speed under load? Mine shows 1.24 whether not settings like EIST are on which seems low.
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Originally Posted by luihed
i had my B3-Q6600 on the QuadGT board...so...i was limited...not like that now with the IP35 pro...i must be on the 1333 strap (using 1:1.2 FSB to memory ratio)..how else can you explain the difference in WAY higher FSB...my highest FSB on the QuadGT was 390 at 9X...410, if i jammed the vcore down its throat!:D
i tried all the lower multi's and it would not go any higher.
board and cpu voltage demand will be different for each person.Quote:
Originally Posted by 226
I dont exactly know how the strap works but if you went from 390 to 463fsb and I can run 1:1 as fast as my old 1066strap board then Abit and Intel did a great job:D .....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
I just think its stupid how they associated straps to the dividers cos speedwise 400x9 2:3 ( supposedly 1066strap ) is not really faster than 514x 7 1:1 ( supposedly 1333strap ), just like how it was in the DFI965-s.... But if you try those same 2 runs in a board that switches straps after 400fsb ( P5B Dlx ) the difference in times will be big ( around 30sec ;) )....
I wish tony or freecableguy will see this and give thier thoughts.....
As was mentioned above you may need to set the voltage of your memory to the proper level.Quote:
Originally Posted by 226
I tried 1.9, 2.0, and 2.1 and it's rated between 1.8-9. I don't think that it booted when I tried 2.1 so I'm not sure what else I could try to set it to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dredd
Well I got my X3220 intoday and put that guy in my board. Thing I realized running a low fsb with a high divider my ram performance level went way down.
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7...3200mhzbw5.jpg
so the question becomes Q6600 or X3220? If I'm looking to get 4 cores but not a spectacular overclock (3.2Ghz would be ok) which is the better choice?Quote:
Originally Posted by MADMAX22
price wise the Q6600 is cheaper..right?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dredd
Depends on the retailer, but I can get the Q6600 for $290 which is $10 under the X3220 pricees i've found but yes generally it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
i think the 3220 is 105 watts while the "G0" Q6600 is only 95 watts.
Well, I'm not going to pay a premium to get a G0...I can save $10 by taking the chance on getting a B3 and won't have to wait for the retailer to get stock on G0 chips. a B3 should clock to decent levels for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Is it me or does it seem like this board is better than the P5K Deluxe in all respects?
Ive got mine (g0),just came in today, up to 3.5ghz on 1.33v after vdroop on ip-35 pro. Its hovering around 55-57C on abits uguru temp monitor. Core temp seems to crash my computer, even at stock settings..
been priming stable for a while now.
I need to work on my memory. Its gskill pc-6400 and it fails prime anywhere past like 900mhz... I have it at 2.25v, I am scared to take it higher though people are reporting 1100mhz at like 2.35v.
My link is 1:1... Any suggestions?
This board is def better then asus pk5. im happy i purchased it.
Changed out my link to 1:1.2 and am now booting at 1050 mhz ram speed up from 800, but this is at 5-5-5-12
do you think i should stick with slower ram speed like 900mhz and 4-4-4-12 or stay at what i am now?
I got this one for $296 shipped from provantage which at the time was slightly cheaper then the 6600. Im pretty get whatever one is cheaper. Ill post my top oc's with this guy when I get some time to play with it. Had to work so....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Anyways initial thoughts is that it goes to 3.2 very easy but yet to see after that. Gonna have to play the volts down a bit as the phase I am running is a unmodded mach II GT (its a good one) and dont want to really destroy it trying to runa quad maxed out.
Ok, what the first thing I need to be looking at if I can't get my system to boot after 485 fsb? Vcore is not the problem. I've got the Ip35 std and it gets flaky from 485 and impossible to boot after 498. I've got so many Ballistix sticks that I'm wondering if switching up the sticks will even make a difference. My CPU seems to do 3.88 stable (E6850) but I can't even boot at 6x500 .... Eist is diabled. My first intel system and this "strap" thing has me confused.
Just got one, still playing around with it, will report back with results.
the only detriment is the vcore droop but it has not slowed me down to hold 3.7 Ghz with a B3 Q6600.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
i could do 495@7X safely but all my voltages had to be set high except for CPU VTT....it seems that 500 FSB is pushing the limits on this board with higher end cpu's...i finally accepted 463 at 8X...still...my vcore is higher than most like to push it.Quote:
Originally Posted by scwam
You have the G.Skill HZ? If so I have that same memory and can run 2.1v DDR2-~900 at 4-4-4-12 1T with this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by bfox2
to answer your question I'd stay with lower memory speed (lower volts, less heat) with tighter timings. Assuming of course that this keeps your CPU at the same levels either way.
IP35 Pro BIOS Released 8/3/07
BIOS release V11 for IP35 Pro
http://file.abit.com.tw/pub/download...ro/m629b11.zip
Release information:
1. Support CL=3.
2. Enhanced compatibility with certain memories.
3. Support Command Rate adjusting function.
4. Update Jmicron BIOS to V1.06.69.
5. BIOS compiled date: 07/13/2007
Thank you!:)
This is just the official release of the b04 which was out before correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by HamidFULL
I downloaded the bios and used the FlashMenu to update within Windows.. I watched it and it does program the boot block but does it apply the switches? eg: /py /sn /cd /cp /cc /cks /R
sorry, quick question
just built q6600 on ip35 pro
its my first build and have no idea how to check its stability or whatnot
everything is in default excep memory set to 4-4-4-12 2.1v (corsair twin PC6400)
uGuru shows me CPU 30C Systen 36C PWM 41C
is there any other temp monitoring program for this mobo?
tried speedfan, seems its not working on this mobo
speedfan shows me weird numbers system 10C CPU -73C etc
everest only shows me GPU temp 70C
and one more thing.. if i close uGuru, x button, it become not response
im running vista.. is it vista or my system
thanx for any input!
Read a post over at Overclockers forums someone said this board has a bad Vdroop caused by the fan headers Can anyone confirm this info?:cool:
core temp. Run 4 instances of prime 95 and also memtest to see if you are stable.
How is everyone updating the bios? I heard doing it from within windows was risky.
It could just be that you know, i never would have thought. I have 4 fans plugged in out of six and am getting .05v droop. It gets worse like .08 as I jack up the volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bones
I don't think it is just him, but it is still an exception rather than the rule I think. My droop is like .03 - .04V using 3 headers. The droop mod is published in any case for those with issues. I know I will do this mod before I drop in my quad, just in case droop comes into play with higher loading.Quote:
Originally Posted by bfox2
Well I have my quad at 3.5 stable and at 1.35v after droop so it doesnt seem like too much of a concern.
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Originally Posted by HamidFULL
Has anyone tested it yet? Any new options? I'm hoping they bring the strap options back :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dredd
Will carry on testing, but so far not impressed. Having real trouble trying to reach somewhere even close to previous overclocks. Not sure if it has something to do with memory dividers.Quote:
Originally Posted by HamidFULL View Post
IP35 Pro BIOS Released 8/3/07
BIOS release V11 for IP35 Pro
http://file.abit.com.tw/pub/download...ro/m629b11.zip
Release information:
1. Support CL=3.
2. Enhanced compatibility with certain memories.
3. Support Command Rate adjusting function.
4. Update Jmicron BIOS to V1.06.69.
5. BIOS compiled date: 07/13/2007
RLM
Seems it was a glitch of sorts.
Tried 415x9 and 400x9 all with previous voltage and ram setup, and it wouldn't boot.
Lowered it right down, and gradually worked back up and now 415x9 is running just fine.
Maybe it just needs a warm up.
I'm afraid not.Quote:
Has anyone tested it yet? Any new options? I'm hoping they bring the strap options back
RLM
I use a flash drive through DOSQuote:
Originally Posted by bfox2
I'm using it now and it is exactly the same as far as I can tell to the b04 that was out earlier on. No extra options anywhere that I can find.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikalCarbine
doesnt looked released to me.... i just checked out the www.abit.com.tw site and here for the bios
http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/downl...ET_TYPE=LGA775
still seeing just the bios10, looks like bios11 isnt ready for prime time just yet guys.
Bios working fine for me, but my usb keyboard is having issues in dos mode, when i boot from cd.....
Do we need the power connection next to the PCI-E 16x?????
having patience helps, go check your thread you started about this.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
a whole 16mins is not what i call patient.
Yup, but im an impatient guy........:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsizer
Actually I have a similar problem that GAR's experiencing, albeit with my Commando.
My Logitech Media keyboard locks periodically in DOS (Ghost 2003) and the BIOS. I also tried a Logitech Internet kb as well as MS Media Keyboard all with the same results, not to mention flashing back to various BIOS revisions (clearing CMOS, no oc), etc, etc. I'm still researching the issue but in the meantime I'm looking to upgrade to a P35 board.
I posted five questions in this thread (see post #969) but the last two remain unanswered. So I repeat them and add some more.
1. To date, how many official BIOS updates have there been for the IP35 Pro?
2. Are there any SATA/AHCI issues? I have four SATA drives and would like to run at least two of them in AHCI (or perhaps RAID 0). I don't want to re-install XP only to find out there's a problem with AHCI support.
3. Are there any USB problems at all? (strange lockups, resource conflicts with X-FI or with on-board PCI LAN controllers)
4. I have two PATA DVD burners, Pioneer & BenQ. My Commando has no prob with these two in cable select mode. Does the IP35 Pro have any issues with PATA optical drives in such a configuration?
I'm very seriously interested in the IP35 but MUST know of conflicts beforehand. I can't afford the down time. I've owned several Abit boards in the past but since that time I've avoided them because I saw QC take a nosedive and read reports of Abit mgmt embezzling money. Hopefully all that's now permanently in the past.
Hadn't noticed this before, so not sure if this is new with this latest bios.
At boot up text comes up saying something like
Bios M629B_11.B04 Not for sale (Evaluation only)
No biggy I'm sure, just thought I'd mention it.
RLM
1. I believe there are only 2 official bioses, the original release and the one that came out yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by NLight95
2. I have 2 raptors installed on the ich9r and have had no problems. i can let you know about ahci in a few days if you'd like as i have another sata drive coming.
3. I don't have an x-fi so i can't help you with this one.
4. i have an ide hard drive and a pata dvd burner and i use the cable select configuration for the hard drive and burner and i have not had any problems getting it to detect or setup properly. i'd assume the same with two dvd burners.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I've narrowed down my choice to either the IP35 Pro or P35-DQ6. Please let me know what your results are with AHCI. I do some I/O intensive work where it would make quite a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
you are seeing the correct post screen if you have "B04" bios installed.Quote:
Originally Posted by RLM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsizer
Abit is not the fastest website to get the latest bios posted into their bios selection area...usually the bios is put on their FTP server before it actually gets annotated on their website...i've seen weeks of lag time before the bios is posted on a website.
a more accurate answer in your own thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=153922Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
3) there is no issues that I have seen with my XFI or USB. It works in any PCI slot. I've tried them all.Quote:
Originally Posted by NLight95
4) The IDE controller is the same as what was on the Asus P5B and Commando boards. It's J.micron which is not the best one, but it will work fine, no worries there.
OK, one thing i noticed, i had 3.25gb's in windows before i flashed, now with the new flash i have 3, so i went inside the bios to see if memory remap was enabled.......but its no where in the bios to be found, anyone???? :confused: :confused: :confused:
the pro board does not have that setting in the bios.
i think there is a way to mod the boot.ini to get more memory recognized...why don't you flash back to see if you get back the additional memory...supposedly windows 32 bit is limited to 3gb's of memory or there abouts.
You mean the /PAE (Physical Address Extension)............tried it, it doesnt work for P35 chipsets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
sounds familiar...i do not use 4 Gb's, just 2 Gb's.
you need to go to a 64 bit OS.
Easier said than done, 64bit OS compatibility isnt up to par with 32bit, but eventually i will go onto 64bit.....but for now 32bit is working flawlessly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
it's not there, but with more than 2GB installed it enables what it needs to recognise it. Then it's up to the OS.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
you cant use 4gb in XP end of story, all the physical address extensions in the world arent going to make it work.
its nice to have that extra 1+ gb available since windows only see's 3 - 3.2gb.
but then again is the stress on the board needed?
and unless your doing massive video or photo editing ther eisnt a need for more than 2gb.
i tried 64 bit vista and it is not that bad...Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
Yeah. the only problems I've seen with Vista x64 are ones that are tied to Vista universally, not just because it's x64.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Windows XP 64 isn't bad either. To my knowledge most companies have taken care of the driver-related issues. Only problems are with the 16-bit apps or apps that aren't written to work with x64.
just put together my new rig today
Q6600+IP35 Pro
the "installing windows XP in a SATA drive" problem bothered me for the whole day
finally had it taken care of
my Q6600 is G0 but not very good at OC
at last fixed at 370x9 w/ vcore 1.4525v (Prime95 stable)
DDR2 vol is 2.1v w/ ratio 1:1.5 so they are running at 1100MHz (4x1G Ballistix DDR800, 5-5-5-15)
had to raise MCH vol to 1.41v tho
overall IP35 Pro is a solid board and this thread is the reason i went for it (i basically read all the posts)
so thx :D
that's been the difference as i see it...hardware makers are getting with the program and issuing 64 bit software updates for their hardware....my HP printer is one device that now has install software designed to handle vista 32 and 64 bit OS's.Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroCreep
OK...So I am a little confused, just got the system up and running, X3220. When not under load my multiplier is dropping from x9 to x6. While running Orthos, it is hitting 3015 but the multi drops to 6 when not loaded???
i know that, my question was, before the flash i had 3.25, and after i have 3. thats all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
a question for you guys, what pci-e frequency are you using with this board, and 8800gtx..........in my 680 i was using 125, but i know intel chipsets dont really like the pci-e frequency too high, the sata drives dissapear when you set it to high, and you get corrupt OS as well.........so what settings are you guys using???
Just tested this. I reckon it's happening due to C1E being set to 'auto'.Quote:
OK...So I am a little confused, just got the system up and running, X3220. When not under load my multiplier is dropping from x9 to x6. While running Orthos, it is hitting 3015 but the multi drops to 6 when not loaded???
In bios go to Advanced Bios Features > Cpu Feature
Set C1E to 'disabled'.
Seems the recommended setup for these features is to disable all, but Execute Disable Bit and possibly Thermal Control.
This should help in theory with Overclocking.
RLM
as far as i understand...thermal control is the cpu throttling mechanism...the cpu will automatically shut down when it hit its magical overheating temperature to save itself from melt-down
as long as you do not go over 120 mhz, the intel chipset should function...now...can your sata hard drives handle the extra frequency is another aspect to consider.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
Hey what are other people getting for fsb on quads. Heres my x3220 B3 at 470, highest ive gotten so far.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5096/q4470fsbvd2.jpg
I'm highly considering the Abit IP35 Pro for my new build this coming week, I first have some questions:
1) Is this board solid and stable as rock for 24/7 usage even while OC'ing? Just as stable as say Gigabyte's top P35 offering? Or is the board a nightmare (I've had those :eek: )?
2) Are there any bug, flaws, drawbacks or otherwise potentially negative aspects about this board?
3a) How bad is the vdroop in conjunction with a quad-core (OC'ed Q6600)? What about relatively in comparison to the Gigabyte? (I know the ASUS P5K is much better, but it's not an option.)
3b) If it's bad, how much will this limit what? I understand it limits OC'ing potential a bit, but how much in reality? (20 Mhz, 100 Mhz, 500 Mhz?)
4) Is the stock cooling adequate? Even without an extra fan for it and a side-blowing style cooler such as the Ninja or Ultra 120?
I noticed it can't be replace with TR mosfet and chipset aftermarket coolers, will this be an issue at all? (I'm going for a quiet setup.)
Thanks! :)
~ Kris
yes, it is stable with high overclocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
no.Quote:
2) Are there any bug, flaws, drawbacks or otherwise potentially negative aspects about this board?
droop is bad but does not affect the overclock...power regulation is very stable.Quote:
3a) How bad is the vdroop in conjunction with a quad-core (OC'ed Q6600)? What about relatively in comparison to the Gigabyte? (I know the ASUS P5K is much better, but it's not an option.)
3b) If it's bad, how much will this limit what? I understand it limits OC'ing potential a bit, but how much in reality? (20 Mhz, 100 Mhz, 500 Mhz?)
cooling is adequate with the current heatpipe...i showed a mod that you can do by removing the heatpipe and then remove current TIM...from there, you can add AS Ceramique...then re-attach it with insulated washer, common nuts and bolts purchased at home depot.Quote:
4) Is the stock cooling adequate? Even without an extra fan for it and a side-blowing style cooler such as the Ninja or Ultra 120?
I noticed it can't be replace with TR mosfet and chipset aftermarket coolers, will this be an issue at all? (I'm going for a quiet setup.)
Thanks! :)
~ Kris
EDIT:...i see you live in sweden:)...i guess home depot won't work for you.:D
1. This board has been very stable for me. No problems to report. I've chips overclocked at 3.2, 3.7, and almost 3.8 w/o having any stability issues (after stability testing of course).Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
2. The LAN runs off of pci rather than pci-e... but i can't find where it states that. Board shuts off then boots up after making any changes in the bios (I MEAN ANY).
3. Vdroop appears to be dependent on the board you receive. Some report practically none, others around 0.03 to 0.04... me, 0.08-0.09! but i did the vdroop mod and it no longer droops at all.
4. Can't help you hear as i do not run this board inside a case but out of the case with my waterblock (no fans) it runs fine.
Anyone using GSkill PC-6400 HZ (F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ) with this board?
My question is what memory settings you are using, maybe if you could give me a picture of the BIOS screen. I only set the first 4 options to 4-4-4-12 but the rest is on auto. I'm not sure if this is the best idea or not. Does it matter?
Thanks in advance
im at 1000mhz with 5-4-4-12, with 2.3v.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dredd
do the rest of the settings matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
I have it running now at DDR2-1020 5-4-4-12 1T 2.25v
This seems to be the best I can do with this setup.
These sticks all obviously vary.
Mine will do about 1050mhz 4-4-4-12 with 2.3v. That's with fans over them.
Looking through the gskill forum, the only real mention of further sub timings are in conjuntion with Asus P5b Deluxe. As follows 4-4-4-12-4-42-3-11-7-13
(Edit: The order is different to the Abit's bios, and in fact may not work anyway. Here's a screengrab just for reference where the settings have been set as 10-10-10-10 instead of 3-11-7-13 http://www.gskillusa.com/motherboard..._2gbhz_002.jpg)
If you have the memory set to auto, you could run memset to see what timings are being set.
RLM
Well, I'l trying to keep the voltage under 2.3. I've already limited myself that much. I guess DDR2-1020 5-4-4-12 is good at 2.25Quote:
Originally Posted by RLM
Sounds good Ace-a-Rue and shimmishim, except shimmishim - you gotta be joking right? What's the point with GLAN on PCI? It would saturate/choke the bus COMPLETELY. Are you sure? Both of them can't seriously be?
And where can I find more on this vmod? :D
I think IP35 Pro may very well be my next MB afterall.
Have you used a gigabit network? You never see max bandwidth used in day to day situations.Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
Dredd , have you tried memtest, does it pass with 1t @ 1020????? mine passed memtest for about 15 mins then i got an error.
So I managed to screw up my bios flash and now the motherboard won't boot or display anything, it powers on but does not boot, is there a bios recovery method without having to get a new chip or do I need to contact abit and get chip.
if you can put the bios chip into another abit board and then hot flash it, that is about the only way i know of.
Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
as far as the PCI bus working with the network chipset, i have not seen any sluggishness or other variant when using high speed cable connection...of course, i do not have any PCI cards plugged into the PCI slots....maybe when there is a PCI sound card or something else in the PCI slot, a problem might come up.
just looked it up... Glan runs off of the pci bus :(Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
both of them!
vmods... so far only vdroop has been found...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=152233
i haven't seen the vmem mod or vdimm yet
Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
here is the mod:
http://ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showpo...5&postcount=45
Real interested in seeing the finished mod. Pics anyone?:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Looks like I get to go to fry's and pick up a new board when I get off work, I don't want to wait to get a bios chip shipped.
Yup, im about to go to frys today as well, i love that place, only 3 miles away from me :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hey_Its_Cole
newegg is my fry's...LOL
Really for me to, but fry's is my back up when I need stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
quick.
Why Intel TAT doesn't work with this mobo?
use coretemp 094 or 095 for temp readout
Stupid question, I should have any problems after I install a new motherboard right? I just put it in and it is back to normal??
Core temp 0.94 or 0.95 doesn't work.
memtest in DOS or windows? cause in dos is passed but windows no pass. I just turned it back down to 850. It's ok for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
I run a X-FI in there with my LAN going and no problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Like I said day to day you'll never see the difference anyway.
here is my highest FSB so far.
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8552/530fsbpi5.jpg