..9 sets of dead or alive GKX? :p:
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..9 sets of dead or alive GKX? :p:
ddr3 is high priced, and the peformance gains are in my opinion not worth it, only if you go triple channel on i7 do you see huge gains, with ddr3 on the 775 platform, not worth the money, the gains are to small to justify the cost.
Hey what bios you using ? f5 ?, there is a f6 and a f7a on tweaktown gigabyte forums. I tried your suggestions, help somewhat, still cant get this board over 500fsb:shrug:
im using f5.heres my settings for ddr 1200 500x8.5. in bios set -LLC enabled, pll-1.57 / vtt1.28 / cpu ref-0.81,shows up in ET6 as 0.76 /vcore-1.38125 / vdimm-2.22 / mch-1.38 /mch ref- 0.750.shows up in ET6 as 0.70 / ich i/o-normal / ich core- normal / memory settings-strap 333 / ddr1200 / pl8 /whatever timing work for you. mine are 5-5-4-12 -3-30-6-3
Thanks alot Raja, just cant seem to get only 400 stap going, i will try those settings and thanks again.:up:
All Crucial Ballistix use Micron D9's right? Including the 2x2gb sets? I'm picking up my Crucial Ballistix 2x2gb DDR2-800 set, which was cheap at newegg. :) Hope to get good bandwidth from them!
nope new crucial use PC or else. Specially the 2x2gb are not microns.
Great, nice to hear im not the only one with this fetish :p:
Not at all, I'm hoping to buy my 3rd and 4th kits of D9 in the not too distant future :D
Don't ask how many kits I have :rofl:
want to ask here.,one of my friend want to sell his kingston hyperx 2gb 9200 ram.,its use D9GKX chip.,did anyone here tried this ram before.i've read some reviews says they use D9GKX..
sorry for my bad english..
Nearly picked up some on newegg when they had them for real cheap. But the many complains about sticks dying after a few months worries me. Is that true?
I have two sets. Some sets have D9 DKX and apparently some don't. My first set was made in USA and my second in China. I have yet to manage getting the heat spreaders off and actually verify what the IC's are. They both have 2.35v stickers on the sticks I think my 1st set (USA) is a little stronger then my second (China). My first set could run DDR2-1000 (1/1) at 4-4-4-12 with around 2.3v on my TPower. I've also been able to run them 5-5-5-15 DDR2-1200 (333/800) with lower volts on my DFI UT and Gigabyte UD3P.
Well guess what happend i put those settings you gave me and BAMMMMMMMMM KILLED MY BOARD, its fried:down::down:, it wouldnt accept those settings, and kept rebooting, so i cleared the cmos, didnt help, just kept rebooting , took out the battery, kept rebooting, no way into bios, i rmad the board, have serious 2nd thoughts about getting this board again. I guess there is a revision of the board coming out cause of some issues with the board, now i dont know what to do:shrug:
neo mike, im really sorry to hear that.so they are giving you a replacement?did any of your other hardware get taken with it?hope not. not sure what you should do either.maybe get the ddr3 version?
No my processor is ok, and my memory, just the board dieddddddddd, dont have any idea why, not blaming you at all, just dont know what happend. Not sure what im going to do, i will try the ddr3 version, or the dfi x48 t3rs, not sure, at internet cafe now :rofl: so hard to pick a new board to many choices, only way is try them out till you get one that kicks butt, definitly not getting another ud3p, i did notice that the heat pipe sytem on it dont seem to work all that great, the nb gets pretty hot, i think its only aluminum, and not copper. Shopping around reading reviews.
neo mike, yea i hear you on that. i'd probally get do the same thing if mine fried.keep me updated on which one you get
Here are my 4x1gb sticks of Crucial Ballistic PC-6400 at 5-5-5-15 1140Mhz on 2.28v. I have only had this new UD3P board for a few days and love what I am seeing so far.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...8/Capture5.jpg
nice one ledge, thats some awesome bandwidth results. is that pl9?
performance level.its in the bios under advanced memory settings i think it called static tread value,but not sure without looking in my bios.
@ledge,yea i can boot all at pl 8 up to 540 fsb using 1:1 divider but above 540 pl 9
sorry for double post but i just got my 2nd set of cellshock pc8000. now just need to install 64bit OS and ill be good to go.http://i35.tinypic.com/oggrnp.jpghttp://i35.tinypic.com/mbmrcw.jpg
Nice results on ud3p:mad: thats 1:1 try getting that on the 10:8, or 16:12, and i will buy that board again in a second:D.
Umm I must be missing something? Whats so special about that screenshot?
4GB of ram running at 600MHz, at 500 FSB. Not bad.
Oh I see now, I didn't notice it was 4GB.
Good work :up:
I am finding that it's pretty hard to hit 600Mhz/1200Mhz with 4 sticks installed. Do I need more V's on the MCH to push them higher or do I need more Dimm voltage?
I was able to hit 625Mhz 2.4v on my 680i with 2 sticks installed and 600Mhz 2.325v on my Abit with all 4.
I had a bad OC last night trying to hit 600FSB that corrupted my Vista install. It even deleted all of my restore points so, I had to do a clean install. Not a huge deal as the OS was fresh from Monday so not much data lost.
I need to get a HDD just for max OCing. Maybe a External drive?:up:
thanks, funny thing was that when i got the 2nd set i was so exited i forgot to take the OC off(set optimized defaults)i just put them in and presto booted right up at500x8.5 mem 5:6-600mhz.
Ledge,
here are some of my settings for 500FSB 5:6 4x1GB at DDR2-1200
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9...x84x1gbwq0.png
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7...bd12002dd4.png
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7...gbd1200xb4.png
pangingIII that one with 1.30mch is pretty sweet,i didnt think it would be able to run 500fsb with 4 sticks with the nb so low.awesome going to see if mine will do it.
You guys are going to make me rip my system apart later and perform some tweaks if your not careful :yawn:
Question; Anyone run any Cellshock PC8000 with G.Skill HZ PC6400? If so, do they get along together on an Asus and or other boards? Thanks.
Larry
i wish i could do that. my ud3p won't boot with 4 sticks. i tried with 4x1 gmh and 2x1gmh + 2x1gkx. no matter what i do and how much juice i pump on the nb and the ram 4gb won't boot.
care to post your bios settings for that? did you changethe pciex clock voltage also?
@radaja, You have some newer ram there, mine are dated 35/06 in cpu-z.
Larry
radaja,
here is a 4x1GB at 750 MHz DDR2-1500 (3:5) 5-5-5-18 - http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=461584
i don't want to buy any more 1GB DDR2 stick i wish i already had some good DDR2 that i can play with them. anyway, it seems to me like your ram kits should be able to overclock higher than mine, try them out.
radaja has already shown his bios voltage setting, they are in the ET6 that he posted.
have you tried changing ram slot around?
then other than that it's about the voltage settings that you need to set the bios, the most important setting is MCH voltage, MCH ref. value and vdimm voltage.
for 4x1GB at DDR2-1200, the rest of setting in bios are not that important, you can try leaving all of the bios's memory setting to auto, but set turbo and will get a decent memory timings.
well its not working for me. i tried that already and dozen of other settings. maybe one of my dimm slots is broken? well heck i give up on that now. 2gb is nuff for me.
electrosadist,here are my exact settings in bios.hope it helps.
also does this task manager look right,the amount cached and amount available?
http://i38.tinypic.com/aadgzm.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/2rxxq84.jpg
I bought a kit of OCZ Flex 9200 off eBay that had GMH, but one stick was DOA so I RMA'd em. I got the replacements back last week but didn't think much of them as they have the new stickers with 2.1V specified so I figured they couldn't possibly be Microns. Out of curiosity I did open them and looking at the ICs, I didn't notice any "feet" on them like PSC have, but I guessed they must have been Elpida or somesuch. I intended on selling them on eBay but my curiosity got the better of me today so I popped the heatspreaders and saw some D9GMH ICs staring back at me :D
Nice find Shiranui, that would have been a surprise for sure.
Here's my latest SPI32M, 541 FSB/649.2 MHz, PL10, 1.44vNB, 2.24 vDimm, done with P5Q-Deluxe. The time is bad I was using the 6x multi
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...FSB-650MHz.jpg
I recently installed one of my E8400s into the Maximus Formula X38, which had success with the CellShock 8000 kit, so I may have to see if I can't do 541FSB and 650MHz on the memory.
Some old ones i found:
Ballistix on P35C:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...900mhzmmst.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/7001M.jpg
Ballistix on Commando cas 5:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...cas3500mhz.jpg
600mhz 4-4-4 32M:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...IMG_0135-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/2-10.jpg
Cellshock & Ballistix on Maximus Formula:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...aximusload.jpg
Cellshock on Maximus:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/676mhz.jpg
Good luck with it Shiranui I hope you can get it to happen. I was pretty stoked when it finished the run. I really want to see 650 MHz so I am going to try for 542 FSB / 651MHz but I think my CPU isn't stable at 542+ so I may not be successful. I wish I had a nice e8600 to play with.
loc.o - very nice work. 600 CL4 is hard to get 32M stable, must have been really nice ram to only need 2.32v for that.
i've been seeing those and similar from you in these forums and they are very nice results, loc.o.
CryptiK,
that seems like you have a much better overclocking ram kits than mine, i couldn't overclock my ram kits in p5q-d.
tried replacing board but the ram overclocking results from 2nd board just came out the same, i'd never gotten a decent ram overclocking above ddr1200 and also stable enough to run a superpi 32m with p5q-d's like that.
anyways, here are couple of 2x1GB 550FSB DDR1300+ overclocking results from ep45-ud3r...
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/325...1gbd132el8.png
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/793...x1gbd13ki4.png
Looks like those drive strength options really reduce the amount of VDIMM needed for high 32M-stable clocks.
Great work pangingIII :up:
Nice Everest results ;)
Yes I'm pretty happy with the way these kits are performing. They do the same with my M2F. I'd love to try them on a UD3P.
Your results are great, 32M 660MHz at only 2.4v is very nice. As Shiranui said the drive strength settings that board has really improves ram clocking and reduced vdimm required for any given speed. I also find the fact you only need 1.30v vNB for 550 FSB/660 Mhz ram 32M stable really impressive, my boards need 1.45 - 1.5vNB for that. A2 vs A3 chipset most likely.
Here is my run at 580FSB.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...e68/580FSB.jpg
My first posted benchmarks using my replacement OCZ FlexXLC 9200 kit that turned out to be D9GMH. I have a feeling these sticks will be able to do 1300+ with out VDIMM being too ridiculous.
Those seem like some nice sticks there, can you pass memtest with those settings ?.
Man im having trouble deciding if i want to go ddr3 or stay with ddr2. Running some ddr3 right now at 1633 i see no peformance gains over ddr2 1200 mgz. I think you have to get up into the 1800-2000 range at 7-7-7, or 8-8-8, to really see the benifit of ddr3.
Picked up some cellshock 1066s the other day, gotta say i love these sticks, doing my homework on this purchase has paid off grandly so far. Led me to a couple of new hwbot trophies :)
Im still in the process of tweaking these, but im hitting some barriers. So far i've got them upto 621 with 5-5-5-15. No matter what i do, i cant get stability over 621, more volts, looser timings, down clocking nb/htt/cpu, nothing so far will get me booting past 621. I havent messed with every single timing yet, there's still the more obscure timings like read2read, read2write, write2precharge and such, gonna play with them some more later, wanted to get some benching in with them with what i had. But i'd like to figure out whats holding me back. The 621 is stable with 2.24v, Spi will throw errors at 2.0v, but it doesnt blue screen. Spi is kinda picky in that way.
So far though, im lovin these new sticks, and lookin forward to breaking 650 in the near future :)
I managed to get 542 FSB / 650.4 MHz to pass SPI32M using the P5Q-Deluxe. Used 50ps delay on all ram channels and 1.44vNB (PL10 run) and 1.50vNB (PL8 run). I may have been able to use less I didn't test minimum vNB required for the given settings. Only 2.24 vDimm was required (DMM measured) using one of my CellShock PC8000 CL4 GKX kits.
SPI32M @ 542 FSB, 650.4 MHz, PL10
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...504MHzPL10.jpg
SPI32M @ 542 FSB, 650.4 MHz, PL8
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...6504MHzPL8.jpg
WaterFlex, thanks.
Shiranui Gen-An, CryptiK,
the drive strength option settings in bios i usually left at auto which's a non-specific setting
this option setting in UD3x boards as far as i can see it's a volltage setting profile's, if i manual set PLL, VTT and MCH including Vcore, Vdimm i don't load the profile.
That's odd, I assumed drive strength just affected drive strength. So you're saying when you set the drive strength setting (profile) it changes all of the voltages you mentioned? If you manually set the voltages you mentioned, what happens when you then set the drive strength profile? Does it override the parameters you previously set manually?
@ Shiranui - with that run @ 533 FSB/640 MHz, did you have 'large system cache' enabled? What PL was that at (I'm assuming 8) and what was Ai Clock Twister, Static read control and Dram read training set to?
you assumed i assumed but i think you are right and i was wrong, what was i thinking there, this due to when i tried the option setting before i was try it at 375FSB,
1st i tried 375fsb ddr2-1200 and leave all voltage setting at auto but set driving strength profile option to OC-1200 (driving strength profile option are: ddr2-667, ddr2-800 ddr2-1066, OC-1200, OC-1333), and once i was within windows i checked the ET6, and the voltages settings were: PLL 1.75/ VTT 1.40/ VCC 1.35/ MCH 1.40/ Vdimm 2.2v, then i rebooted and went back into bios and set 375fsb ddr2-900 and the driving strength profile to ddr2-800 and then within windows the ET6's voltages settings were: PLL 1.50/ VTT 1.20/ VCC 1.25/ MCH 1.10/ Vdimm 2.0v. actually, it may not have anything to do with auto voltage setting from the bios.
The changing voltages were probably due to them being left on auto when you were overclocking. It would be good if you could test the affect of the drive strength on the overclocking of the ram, I'm considering picking one of these boards up. nice results though mate, it's so hard getting 550+ FSB 660 MHz + on the boards I've tried, both my M2F and P5Q-Deluxe max out at 660 MHz benchable and 666 MHz max screen.
come on cryptik,just pull the trigger, GET the board.you have debated this long enough.your missing out on all the fun.just do it
Lets see those xtreem teams on that ud3p Raja :up:
Too strong drive strength may kill your ram,be careful
neo mike im going to give them a try later today,i'll keep you updated.
EDIT-update heres my first try booted right up but failed after 5 minutes.
then i made some adjustments and corrupted
the OS.just installed vista,i'll keep you updated.
http://i43.tinypic.com/2ef2fys.jpg
Wow Raja, i knew that team 1300 would rock on that board, ok wait to see where you get it, looks like you could hit 1400 with that board, that board is sweet. I just ordered the p45t- ud3p which is the ddr3 version of the same board, hoping it clocks as good as the ddr2 version.
neo mike, looks like leegoohfd is making some headway with that board. he had a bad start because of the bios but f3 seems to be working ok now.good luck. looking forward to your results.planning on getting one myself
been kind of scared to push it,after os corruption.taking it slow.http://i44.tinypic.com/123lbaf.jpg
Very nice clock. Why do you have strange core temps?
i have a stuck sensor. its stuck at 39c. when im at idle they read 39c and 27c. and like ive said before
i use a vent hose from my air conditioner. very very cold air is blown directly into the
computer intake. just look at the mb sensor 16c.heres a pic of it at idle.
http://i44.tinypic.com/zl98qh.jpg
Obviously if you want to test max speed, set the primaries to 5-5-5-15 at 5-5-4-12 you are going to need more voltage for any given speed. Nice board & ram though.
cryptik,were you refering to me? if so i did loosen up the timings to try and achieve a higher memory oc.thanks for the tip though,always appreciate your guidance.heres my latest.http://i43.tinypic.com/synx4n.jpghttp://i42.tinypic.com/3476wq9.jpghttp://i42.tinypic.com/10nhk5x.jpg
sorry double post, just realized that last one was with pl9 so i redid it with pl 8 and got a little better pi scores.
http://i44.tinypic.com/akbcox.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/rgvsyf.jpg
here is a higher clock 4424 but had to go pl9.
http://i41.tinypic.com/2bdzdv.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/r26fkm.jpg
Yea I was referring to you just thought you were going to keep pushing it with tighter primaries, and btw you're doing better than me at all this.
You have some really nice bandwidth and SPI runs there, good work. Just curious what vMCH it took to keep 549FSB/659MHz & 553FSB/663.6 MHz stable?
cryptik,thanks.but i dont think its me ,most likely the board .1.38 vMCH,but once i go above 547fsb pl8 it will boot and run SPI 32 and complete it run prime95 for an hour then when i reboot, oc failure no boot.but pl9 no problem
Nice that's quite low (1.38v). My board does that sometimes too when pushed hard, I don't know if it's heat related or not.
How hot does the NB heatsink get when you're benching/running orthos at those settings?
not really sure the exact temp.seems cool to the touch. whenever im pushing it i use the airconditioned air(8c-10c) directly into the intake mb sensor reads 17c.and ive got the 4500 rpm fan sticky taped to the memory,that adds some extra air over nb.when im not pushing it and turn the airconditioner off mb sensor goes to about 27c 30c .so to answer your question,not real sure
Nice clocks Raja, is it the board or the sweet xtreem team :rofl:, very good job. Im playing with my ud3p ddr3 version, dont think its quite as good as the ddr2 version, needs more bios work, heck i cant even crack 11,000k in everest yet, close but not there yet. Does that setup pass memtest ? im curious.
mike, probally both, these teams are pretty awesome.i keep pushing and they accept it.the way it should be.
I told you very sweet memory kit, have to watch it tho they get very hot. But they rock for sure. Thats a very nice setup with the ud3p and xteam.
so far ive only put 2.3vdimm.i think they should be fine with the cooling im using.pretty cold in the case,and pretty cold feet(next to the computer).here are temps with air conditioner on and no stressing (idle).http://i44.tinypic.com/9qh1mv.jpghttp://i35.tinypic.com/2znpgti.jpg
Oh yeah you wont have any problems , nice setup.
well i finally got it boot properly with pl8,i had to raise vMCH to 1.40 and vdimm to 2.34.i tightend the timings again and got my best SPI 32m time yet.http://i42.tinypic.com/of3tps.jpghttp://i42.tinypic.com/1zx7f9e.jpghttp://i42.tinypic.com/35m4n03.jpg
Nice results Raja, is that setup totally stable ? and pass memtest ?
mike, i only ran prime for 1/2 hour MemTest in windows for abou 20 minutes without errors.i,ll stress it more but so far it seems pretty stable.my main concern was that it be able to boot up after restart without OC failure.(red screen)in bios,so far so good booted three times in a row.
http://i40.tinypic.com/fjm8h2.jpg
UPDATE- i got it to ddr1400,unless this divider is bugged.
http://i43.tinypic.com/24zhrpk.jpg
@neo mike, do you know if these teams are D9 GMH or GKX? you probally told me already,i just cant remember.thanks.anyways heres my best SPI 32m run to date.http://i43.tinypic.com/2s60ymc.jpghttp://i42.tinypic.com/2udx66c.jpg
@ radaja - the TG 1300 C6's are supposed to be GKX, nice run btw, thats massive FSB & ram speed for a 32M run.
I managed to do a couple more runs, and got a bit more efficiency out of it.
SPI32M @ 500 FSB, 600 MHz, PL8
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...mLSCenable.jpg
Everest @ 500 FSB, 600 MHz, PL8 (same settings as SPI32M run)
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...mmLSCenabl.jpg
SPI32M @ 534 FSB, 640 MHz, PL8
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...mLSCenable.jpg
Everest @ 534 FSB, 640 MHz, PL8 (same settings as SPI32M run)
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...mmLSCenabl.jpg
Hey Raja, not sure about what chips, but there awesome chips, nice runs guys.
Improving my runs with my E7400 a bit..a little tricky to work around the FSB issues with this mobo though
Read test at 4-4-4-13 :D
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i..._bandwidth.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...l_pi_e7400.jpg
cryptik,niceruns there. that last ones everest bench is really great,the write and copy scores are almost the same as mine doing 550fsb. @clp320.nice
Thanks radaja, I was pretty happy to keep that stable, it took a bit of ram skew tweaking. I think I'm at the boards limit there, I very much doubt I can keep up with your board, I've tried 550 FSB/660 MHz a few times and have never made it past the initial value.
sorry to hear that.you should really try to pick up one of these UD3 series boards.i bet you could really get some great performance out of it with your skills.by the way how did you get that extra efficiency out of the maxII,(everest write and copy)?
Hi all!
I hope you guys can help me here...
I own a amazing kit of Mushkin 2G 8500 5-5-4-12, ( Micron ), and i order, 2x2G Mushkin 8500 5-5-5-15 ( not Micron i think )...
Question:
Can i use both kitts, on the same Board? ( Pk5-E Wi-Fi )?
Please, my aplogies, if im not posting in the correct tread!
Merry Christmas!
Hey Cypik, i feel your pain, like you said in the other thread, get the rampage extreme board. Im having the worst luck trying to find a board i want, i had a burned out ud3p, now i have ddr3 version, its decent, but not good enough. Whats a guy to do to satisfy his overclocking needs:shrug:, im getting tired of trying motherboards.
Well the everest scores are close to what I get normally at the same settings, but I enabled static read control and dram read training and has Ai Clock Twister set to moderate, which is hard to keep stable at that FSB & ram speed, hence the 1.5 vNB. However I used the large system cache OS tweak to get better efficiency out of my SPI32M runs. Eva2000 suggested it to me, so I gave it a go and it dropped my times quite a bit.
That may or may not work, you will have to run the 2GB kit at the rated settings for it and see if the D9 kit will play nice with it. It's certainly not optimal though, and may not work at all. You'll just have to give it a go. You'll also need to increase the vNB to keep it stable as 6GB will put more strain on the MCH than just the 2 x 1GB kit you have been using.
I am very close to getting one to be honest. I own two DDR2 boards, and I really think if I'm going to spend more cash I want a 775 board that is as good as I can get my hands on, and I really want to try the RE, I have had my eye on them for awhile. I would like to try DDR3 too, I've never had the chance to really play with it. I will still keep my M2F & P5Q-Deluxe though, I love DDR2 D9's too much to give them up :D
EDIT - even though its chrsitmas, I am still havng a lot of trouble justifying the expense of the RE. I haven't bought myself anything yet and I'm trying to convince myself that an RE and a simple 2GB ram kit would be a suitable present.