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03-07-2007, 07:15 AM
NeoRecon

So far I am very impressed.

My reboot / boot issues where sometimes the system would hang are gone.
For the first time I'm able to OC my CPU to 3Ghz AND have my memory running near 1067Mhz at 5-5-5-15 2T (It's stock settings). I've only increased the CPU Voltage by one tick, and the DDR Voltage to the memory spec of 2.2V

I've run ORTHOS on the Memory, and on CPU / Memory for several hours and it works smoothly.

The only quirk I've had was initially after I flashed the system. It didn't initially save my settings. It saved all of the settings I changed in the regular BIOS menus, but it didn't save the settings I put in under uGuru in the BIOS. Going in a second time to set them did seem to take hold.

Overall it seems to be a much more stable bios than any of the previous ones I've used.
03-07-2007, 01:22 PM
sedg.raven

i'm too :( i can't pass the memories in stock speed not pass from 1100mhz and epp not configure they :slapass:
03-07-2007, 03:53 PM
Johnny Bravo

Well in an attempt to piss off just about everyone here :D .....

This was achieved on board with NO vmods and just third party air coolers for the SB and NB.....

http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...2M%2012-39.JPG

How about 500MHz stable ???

http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...i32M 13-05.JPG

and no I'm not finished yet - next stop is some vmods ;)
03-07-2007, 04:01 PM
linflas

How bout showing us some pwm temps while at that voltage, please
03-07-2007, 04:20 PM
FlyBoyGeo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lvcoyote

You probably wont even make it to the parking lot..... LOL

I saw an ABIT billboard on my way to the hotel this morning... no firm location.

JB - yes please post some PWM temps with those voltages.
03-07-2007, 04:24 PM
Crazystang01

Very nice hope I can get that with my x6800 on testing with air and much more when I get my SS finally built.:D Yeah Johnny whats your PWM temps plz. Also anyone try out Enzotech's One-piece forged copper SB Heat sink?
03-07-2007, 04:24 PM
Johnny Bravo

I'll get right on it but your not going to believe me ;)
03-07-2007, 04:41 PM
Johnny Bravo

Well you'll wanna start with these

http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...%20(Large).jpg

http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...%20(Large).jpg

http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...%20(Large).jpg

It's 1 in the morning here so I'm off to bed - Ill get the uGuru images up tomorrow but think 40-50oC loaded....
03-07-2007, 05:55 PM
maxwedge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo

Well you'll wanna start with these

What is that on the pwm? No feet there...

PS: Nice OC there too.:toast:
03-07-2007, 07:43 PM
linflas

yes we want one of those pwm goodies, that must be the machined thingy you talked about earlier, 1.6V and 50-60 load temps on the pwm's, I must have one, give it up johnny bravo...
03-08-2007, 12:05 AM
PRJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo

I'll get right on it but your not going to believe me ;)

Thanks for the update ;)

Going to assemble my Q6700 licquid cooled setup today, but before i dare to increase the Vcore, I need to know which software to belive...

CPU-Z 1.440
Guru 1.645 / 1.60

which software is correct?

PRJ
03-08-2007, 12:19 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo

Well you'll wanna start with these

http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...%20(Large).jpg

http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...%20(Large).jpg

http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...%20(Large).jpg

It's 1 in the morning here so I'm off to bed - Ill get the uGuru images up tomorrow but think 50-60oC loaded....

Si(f)t Jonhhy!......Where the heck did you find those heatsinks M8?.....:(
03-08-2007, 12:23 AM
Omastar

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Si(f)t Jonhhy!......Where the heck did you find those heatsinks M8?.....:(

NB- Swiftech MCX159CU
SB- Evercool VC-RE

Not hard to find at all in America. Not sure about overseas.
03-08-2007, 12:28 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omastar

NB- Swiftech MCX159CU
SB- Evercool VC-RE

Not hard to find at all in America. Not sure about overseas.

I too use Swiftech NB cooling in ALL my rigs, BUT I DO like the SB heatsink AND the Mos-Fets' heatsink as well......Are they FULL cooper or mixed alu/cooper?...
03-08-2007, 12:53 AM
Johnny Bravo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omastar

NB- Swiftech MCX159CU
SB- Evercool VC-RE

Not hard to find at all in America. Not sure about overseas.

Correct Omaster - the evercool will need to have its mounting bar redrilled to accommodate the SB mounting holes. Can be purchased on ebay for around a tenner - solid copper and you know it by the weight!

The NB is a simple fit wit the swiftech - tho I found the stock fan a little weak so mounted a more powerful fan on it.

The PWM heatsink - :D home made. Bought a £5 copper 478 cooler off ebay and sliced it up. then bevelled the underside for clearance and mounted it with the original hardware springs. I'll get some picks up with measurements for you to DIY it in future.
03-08-2007, 01:36 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo

Correct Omaster - the evercool will need to have its mounting bar redrilled to accommodate the SB mounting holes. Can be purchased on ebay for around a tenner - solid copper and you know it by the weight!

The NB is a simple fit wit the swiftech - tho I found the stock fan a little weak so mounted a more powerful fan on it.

The PWM heatsink - :D home made. Bought a £5 copper 478 cooler off ebay and sliced it up. then bevelled the underside for clearance and mounted it with the original hardware springs. I'll get some picks up with measurements for you to DIY it in future.

Clever AND innovaded as well...... :) :toast:
03-08-2007, 04:57 AM
plumbergeek

Het Johnny,
Make me one of those PWM sinks! I'll pay ya:banana: I bet you could get RICH with those around here!!!!!
03-08-2007, 08:18 AM
Johnny Bravo

OK for those who were interested in PWM temps:

ambient was 22oC
Running conditions:
http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...%20(Large).jpg

5 minutes in -
http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...oler/5mins.JPG

11 minutes later -
http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...ler/11mins.JPG

and they don't change even after an hour....

Here's some shots that may be of interest you can use the ruler as sclae when your making your own ;)

http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...%20(Large).jpg
http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...%20(Large).jpg
http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...%20(Large).jpg
http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overcl...%20(Large).jpg
03-08-2007, 08:22 AM
Johnny Bravo

also if your making your own the bevel only needs to be about 1mm or so, just so that it doesn't short on the SMD caps in that area. Also make sure you don't plaster that area with thermal paste and never never use AS5 or anything conductive/capacitive for the thermal paste or you'll quickly write off your board. In all honesty a thermal tape or thin thermal pad will more than suffice.

Enjoy!
03-08-2007, 09:38 AM
linflas

Damn, machining makes all the difference then, mine is just a hand cut piece of copper layed on top, no mounting or nothing other than the heatsink putty, lol. This is the best I can do, without too much heat...

BTW vista 64 bit stable with 4GB of ram

http://i17.tinypic.com/2v91xrm.jpg
03-08-2007, 11:42 AM
PRJ

2 Attachment(s)

New Abit Build

Almost finished, just waiting for the OCZ 9200 Flex XLC memory to come from the states, cant wait...
03-08-2007, 12:06 PM
OldGuy

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRJ

Almost finished, just waiting for the OCZ 9200 Flex XLC memory to come from the states, cant wait...

Looks sweet dude...I'm sure everybody is gonna want to know where you got your PWM water block...
03-08-2007, 01:21 PM
linflas

Current memory, going to work on the timings a bit, but am happy with the speed, and the ratio used. 2.25V D9GMH micron (2x1gb Crucial PC8000, 2x1GB Buffalo PC8000)

Vista 64bit stable with 4GB ram (orthos is just for image have done 12+ hour runs already)

http://i18.tinypic.com/2mc8xtg.jpg
03-08-2007, 02:13 PM
symphy

DAMN guys, what are you all doing? I've huge problems with this board...

BIOS 0.6, 1.0 and 1.1 tested.

I got two kits of the new Kingston 9600, but they will not run even near to 1200. None of the two Kits. Tried everything with the timings (Auto, all at max, the same that were used here and so on...)

Even a high voltage (up to 2,8 V) didn't help. I've been working more than twelve hours on this "beast"... but i haven't any clue anymore.

Are there any known BIOS issues with some RAM in this way? I know that some were not able to run kits at all, but this strange way, and two kits at the same time?

My fatbodys (did 1170 @ i975X) didn't want to run 1150, too :-/
03-08-2007, 03:53 PM
Spazilton

Quote:

Originally Posted by symphy

DAMN guys, what are you all doing? I've huge problems with this board...

BIOS 0.6, 1.0 and 1.1 tested.

I got two kits of the new Kingston 9600, but they will not run even near to 1200. None of the two Kits. Tried everything with the timings (Auto, all at max, the same that were used here and so on...)

Even a high voltage (up to 2,8 V) didn't help. I've been working more than twelve hours on this "beast"... but i haven't any clue anymore.

Are there any known BIOS issues with some RAM in this way? I know that some were not able to run kits at all, but this strange way, and two kits at the same time?

My fatbodys (did 1170 @ i975X) didn't want to run 1150, too :-/

You know, honestly I'm starting to think that.

I got fed up with my IN9 and went out and bought a BX2 to find out if it was the motherboard holding me back.. (Was having issues getting 3.2 on a E6600 stable)

Now I'm thinking it might be a problem with compatibility with my memory. When working on the IN9, I set my memory at 533 2.0-2.1v (Gskill 8000 HZ Rated 4-4-4-12 2.2)

I hit a brick wall at 3150 no matter what I did could not get the processer orthos stable past that. This is on medium to high end water.

Popped everything in the BX2, Ill be damned Its doing 3.4 @1.4 stable for over 24 hours. Ram is at 900 Mhz with the 4:5 divider.

I really dont want to give up on this IN9 I think it has tons of potential, especially the power regulation.. has to be the best setup I've seen.

Gonna hang onto my IN9, and possibly pick up another processor to play with..

However for my main rig, its going to be the BX2.
03-08-2007, 10:02 PM
FlyBoyGeo

linflas, what kind of cooling are you using on your NB, SB and PWMs? Curious, as your setup looks good.

I really think that in order to get a good oc you need active (fan) cooling on the NB. I have a 50mm rubberbanded on and my temps stay in the mid 60s all day, 100% cpu usage.
03-09-2007, 05:29 AM
linflas

nbb: swiftech waterblock
sbb: Thermaltake xtreme spirit 2 with 40mm fan
PWM: cut copper from socket 478 cooler I had laying around
03-09-2007, 09:46 PM
Philly_Boy

Quote:

Originally Posted by linflas

nbb: swiftech waterblock
sbb: Thermaltake xtreme spirit 2 with 40mm fan
PWM: cut copper from socket 478 cooler I had laying around

I am waiting for my shipment from MIPS for my PWM water block.

Darn, linflas, that loop looks clean. *hats off to you*
03-10-2007, 04:37 AM
ettis

It seems when using QX6700 and increasing the multiplier only two out of the four cores actually responds when using the new 1.1 bios.
Can anyone else confirm that?
03-10-2007, 07:10 AM
Johnny Bravo

Quote:

Originally Posted by ettis

It seems when using QX6700 and increasing the multiplier only two out of the four cores actually responds when using the new 1.1 bios.
Can anyone else confirm that?

True, though there is a new BIOS to fix that on the way ;)
03-10-2007, 09:19 AM
NeoRecon

LOL. It is good to hear that they are actively working on this BIOS still..and maybe they can fix with a bios update instead of the entire mobo swap out that evga is doing right now.
03-10-2007, 10:06 AM
JargonGR

Funny but the new BIOS did not change a lot for me but it did correct some small issues I had. Whenever I was restarting through VISTA it would hang now it goes smooth.

For overclocking it seems that my CPU can not go any further no matter what. E6600 @ 3.7GHZ 411FSB at 1.6250 Vcore. What it seems a waste though is that it could do 3.6GHZ 1.45v on air and only 3.7GHZ on a dedicated waterloop. Makes me wonder whether water was worth it for 100MHZ.
03-10-2007, 07:06 PM
sedg.raven

Hello i have a issue but i have no idea if is from the mother or memories, the problem is: i can put the memories at 1150mhz in unlinked but if i try to pass from here when i enter in win and see cpuz the memories are at 900mhz and reboot and enter in bios and is true the memories are de-configured and is in unlinked and set at 450mhz, and if i try to set it in linked 1:1 when i set it and enter in win are set at 900mhz another time, an enter in bios and is changed and set in unlinked 400mhz :mad: , and the epp is only anto configured or 800mhz 1T or 1066mhz i have no idea and i so sad i pay 680USD for the memories :fact: :stick:

bye
03-10-2007, 09:05 PM
linflas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philly_Boy

I am waiting for my shipment from MIPS for my PWM water block.

Darn, linflas, that loop looks clean. *hats off to you*

Thanks, this is my loop, 1/2" masterkleer tubing, all swiftech, older apogee, and using the 8800 brackets on the gpu's, ddc12 pump with petra's top.

http://members.cox.net/neetgurl/Pictures/in9-Guts.jpg
03-11-2007, 04:47 AM
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This is my current 24/7 setup. Board unmodified still on shipping bios and i haven`t touched the heatpipes. Just added 40mm fan to NB and 80mm fan aimed @ PWM area. Temps on PWM in low 40`s whatever i`m running, heat is not an issue here.:)

Voltages set in bios as follows...
Cpu - 1.4650v
DDR2 - 2.1v
Nb - 1.50v
SB - 1.60V
CPU VTT - 1.40v
HT - 1.40v

I have had it over 3.8Ghz, but waiting to finish water loop before pushing any further. Cpu cooled with Freezer 7 Pro.
03-11-2007, 08:14 AM
arvardai

Primeiro resultado:400x9

http://www.framebuffer.com.br/forum/...?p=15517#15517
03-11-2007, 10:37 AM
PRJ

Is this 1.1 beta 2 bios newer than bios 1.1 ???

http://www.abit-usa.com/betabios/IN9..._BIOS_0119.zip

from here...

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?t=119222

PRJ
03-11-2007, 11:03 AM
maxwedge

No thats old
03-11-2007, 12:15 PM
FlyBoyGeo

Here's my latest, stock heatpipe intact w/ 50mm fan over NB heatsink:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...FFTsStable.jpg

I'm going to push it more real soon!
03-11-2007, 02:02 PM
billdavis

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m316/wcd26/oc-1.jpg

mine
________
TOYOTA MARK X
03-12-2007, 02:08 PM
FlyBoyGeo

Hey guys, how are your boards and overclocks going?

I have been all over the MHz spectrum today, anywhere from 3900-4200 linked, unlinked and synced (all combos), its been a mostly unstable day as it seems I can not run 480+fsb. I am trying to focus in on 4.0Ghz Orthos stable.

EDIT: Hey billdavis, what are you voltages (core, ddr, nb, sb, cpu vtt, ht)? NB, SB, PWM cooling? Thanks.
03-12-2007, 07:42 PM
Lvcoyote

Just got around to playing with the new BIOS today, it seems much better for me as I can finally use something other than linked/synced. Now that everything else seems to be working for me I have a ton of options to play with..... I'll be at this a while.....LOL
03-12-2007, 08:07 PM
maxwedge

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyBoyGeo

Hey guys, how are your boards and overclocks going?

I have been all over the MHz spectrum today, anywhere from 3900-4200 linked, unlinked and synced (all combos), its been a mostly unstable day as it seems I can not run 480+fsb. I am trying to focus in on 4.0Ghz Orthos stable.

EDIT: Hey billdavis, what are you voltages (core, ddr, nb, sb, cpu vtt, ht)? NB, SB, PWM cooling? Thanks.

You didn't get 4ghz? Looks like you're close in that last screen shot of yours.
03-12-2007, 08:14 PM
maxwedge

Heres my latest. The only voltage I've touched is vcore...set to 1.5125v in bios.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7...rsmallFFts.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7...advoltages.jpg
03-13-2007, 12:56 AM
symphy

Erh, short question. Is there ANY BIOS that overclocks the QX cpus at all 4 cores when i change the multiplier ?

I've got the E6700 (Conroe, dualcore) installed right now, but QX is coming 2morrow, so i thought it would be better to be prepared for this situation ;).
03-13-2007, 04:13 AM
FlyBoyGeo

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwedge

You didn't get 4ghz? Looks like you're close in that last screen shot of yours.

Actually I was able to get 4004Mhz Orthos 11hr+ stable last night. However, yesterday I couldn't seem to get my mem stable over 500 unlinked and not synced.

Ill post a link, as I am going to put my cpu in the conroe overclock database sometime today.

Looks like you got your board running well also. Congrats!

Quote:

Originally Posted by symphy

Erh, short question. Is there ANY BIOS that overclocks the QX cpus at all 4 cores when i change the multiplier ?

I've got the E6700 (Conroe, dualcore) installed right now, but QX is coming 2morrow, so i thought it would be better to be prepared for this situation ;).

Yes the new 11 BIOS (Get it from http://www.abit.com.tw/page/au/downl...ET_TYPE=LGA775)
03-13-2007, 04:27 AM
maxwedge

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwedge

You didn't get 4ghz? Looks like you're close in that last screen shot of yours.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyBoyGeo

Actually I was able to get 4004Mhz Orthos 11hr+ stable last night. However, yesterday I couldn't seem to get my mem stable over 500 unlinked and not synced.

Ill post a link, as I am going to put my cpu in the conroe overclock database sometime today.

Looks like you got your board running well also. Congrats!

I'll be going for 4k this weekend, Thanks.:toast:

I've been using unlinked for the memory but haven't really been tweaking it yet. Just leaving it at 1k and playing with the cpu.:)
03-13-2007, 05:03 AM
jtace

Can't Save Settings With Bios 1.1

HELLO THERE,
I HAVE BEEN READING THIS FORUM ALL FROM BEGGINING. I OWN AN ABIT IN9 AND QX6700. MY PROBLEM IS THAT I CAN'T SAVE SETTINGS IN THE BIOS AFTER I HAVE FLASHED WITH BIOS 1.1. BIOS 1.0 WORKS FINE FOR ME... ANY IDEA ??? I HAVE READ THAT SAME THINGS HAPPENED TO OTHER PEOPLE WITH OCZ MEMORY (I OWN OCZ PC8500 NVIDIA SLI READY WITH EPP) http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?t=120521

PLEASE IF YOU CAN GIVE ANY HELP :confused: :confused: :confused: , WILL BE USEFULL...:) :) :)

THANKS IN ADVANCE
03-13-2007, 05:45 AM
nugzo

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwedge

You didn't get 4ghz? Looks like you're close in that last screen shot of yours.

A little off topic sorry..
All of you and your 4ghz 6600's who did u blow? lol jk. I've been trying and trying with no luck. 6600's 6800's, 3060, 3070 (29B) 3800 is my max!

K back on topic...

For those of you who have tried other 680i's, Is this Abit getting any higher oc's than the others?
03-13-2007, 08:14 AM
OKsoVRomoSkylo

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyBoyGeo

Quote:
Originally Posted by symphy
Erh, short question. Is there ANY BIOS that overclocks the QX cpus at all 4 cores when i change the multiplier ?

I've got the E6700 (Conroe, dualcore) installed right now, but QX is coming 2morrow, so i thought it would be better to be prepared for this situation .

Yes the new 11 BIOS (Get it from http://www.abit.com.tw/page/au/downl...Bios&pMAIN_TYP E=Motherboard&pTITLE_ON_SCREEN=IN9+32X-MAX+Wi-Fi&pSOCKET_TYPE=LGA775)

Are you sure about that FlyBoyGeo??
symphy is talking about the qx,
I guess it isn't fixed yet!! And i'm not sure it can get fixed with a bios revision. (hope i'm proved wrong)
Only 2 out of 4 cores get upwards multied... the other 2 stay at 10x...
That's the reason i got the asus p5n32 e sli plus which does it strait out of the box, @2/3 the price.

@nugzo: best 680i dual core oc'er hands down.. have tried all 680i's except the evga...
To be more exact, fsb wise on par with the striker but with better cpu power control.
03-13-2007, 08:30 AM
FlyBoyGeo

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKsoVRomoSkylo

Are you sure about that FlyBoyGeo??
symphy is talking about the qx,
I guess it isn't fixed yet!! And i'm not sure it can get fixed with a bios revision. (hope i'm proved wrong)
Only 2 out of 4 cores get upwards multied... the other 2 stay at 10x...
That's the reason i got the asus p5n32 e sli plus which does it strait out of the box, @2/3 the price.

I may be wrong. I was looking at HIPRO's post #842.. :confused:

EDIT: After looking around your right, it looks like the best mobo for a QX is a 965 board.
03-13-2007, 10:50 AM
NeoRecon

Johnny Bravo posted either earlier here or at the abit forums that they are currently working on a BIOS update to address the quad core issue.
03-13-2007, 11:26 AM
DukeMaster

I think it may take more than just a BIOS update according to this article:

680i Kentsfield Quad Core Fix

It appears as though all 680i's are affected hardware wise.

Have a look at the "Other Motherboards" page and see the second photo.
It's a pic of the Abit IN9.

Anyone have a micro-mini soldering iron?

Oh No!!!!!!! Here we go again. Abit forum is down.
03-13-2007, 11:50 AM
Johnny Bravo

Guys from what I have gathered the Quad core multiplier control is a BIOS only problem and yes abit are working on it - in fact they are working on it for CeBIT ;)

The mod above is not to do with the multiplier issue:

Quote:

About two weeks ago, EVGA announced that their NVIDIA 680i SLI Motherboards have gone into the Revision A1 state, an updated revision with improved overclocking for the Quad Core Kentsfield Users.

This mod improves FSB scaling only.
03-13-2007, 12:27 PM
FlyBoyGeo

Hey Johnny Bravo, your screenies from post #903, were they Orthos stable, or just 32M SuperPI?

I have been all over the place once again today, and I can only run my GSkill PC2-8000s at stock 500FSB below 3500Mhz. Anything above 3500Mhz and I have to start reducing my fsb.....Is this maybe a cpu limitation or mobo or chipset?

I can run 445fsb 1:1 @ 4004Mhz Orthos 13Hr+ stable, so I've hit my Mhz goal, but want to get my ram up to stock specs of 500 4-4-4-5 at this speed. Is it possible?

Should I mess with the straps? Plz explain.

What do you think? Anyone?

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...13hrStable.jpg
03-13-2007, 01:35 PM
DukeMaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo

The mod above is not to do with the multiplier issue:
This mod improves FSB scaling only.

So what happens when you increase the ability to reach a higher FSB?
You OC the CPU right?
So you're saying the mod won't help improve the OC'g of a Kentsfield?
03-13-2007, 03:43 PM
Johnny Bravo

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeMaster

So what happens when you increase the ability to reach a higher FSB?
You OC the CPU right?
So you're saying the mod won't help improve the OC'g of a Kentsfield?

No I'm not arguing there - what I am saying is that mod will not solve the multiplier issue :)
03-13-2007, 03:46 PM
Johnny Bravo

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyBoyGeo

Hey Johnny Bravo, your screenies from post #903, were they Orthos stable, or just 32M SuperPI?

I have been all over the place once again today, and I can only run my GSkill PC2-8000s at stock 500FSB below 3500Mhz. Anything above 3500Mhz and I have to start reducing my fsb.....Is this maybe a cpu limitation or mobo or chipset?

I can run 445fsb 1:1 @ 4004Mhz Orthos 13Hr+ stable, so I've hit my Mhz goal, but want to get my ram up to stock specs of 500 4-4-4-5 at this speed. Is it possible?

Should I mess with the straps? Plz explain.

What do you think? Anyone?

Dunno mate never tested it - was trying something else in that shot but I'm sure it would cope, tho the cpu temps were prob a little too high reaching the limits of the ApogeeGT there :p:
03-13-2007, 05:38 PM
DukeMaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo

No I'm not arguing there - what I am saying is that mod will not solve the multiplier issue :)

I'm not either. :)
Just wanna squeeze all I can outta the QX6700. :banana:
Would the mod be worth the trouble? :confused:
03-13-2007, 06:21 PM
Heidfirst

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeMaster

Oh No!!!!!!! Here we go again. Abit forum is down.

there are hardware & software updates being made this week so at times the forum may be down.
03-14-2007, 07:39 AM
maxwedge

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyBoyGeo

Hey Johnny Bravo, your screenies from post #903, were they Orthos stable, or just 32M SuperPI?

I have been all over the place once again today, and I can only run my GSkill PC2-8000s at stock 500FSB below 3500Mhz. Anything above 3500Mhz and I have to start reducing my fsb.....Is this maybe a cpu limitation or mobo or chipset?

I can run 445fsb 1:1 @ 4004Mhz Orthos 13Hr+ stable, so I've hit my Mhz goal, but want to get my ram up to stock specs of 500 4-4-4-5 at this speed. Is it possible?

Should I mess with the straps? Plz explain.

What do you think? Anyone?

What did you set your vcore in bios to get that? I've had mine up to 1.5725 so far and small FFT's fail right away. I haven't touched any of the other voltages yet and my memory is rock solid at 1k 4,4,4,12 2.2v in unlinked mode.

PS: Theres a guy on the abit forums running into the same sort of issue with kingston pc9600. Have you tried unlinked? Because I don't have that problem with my Patriot.

PS#2: I'll give 445 fsb a shot with the memory at 800 and see if it is an issue for me.
03-14-2007, 12:57 PM
sedg.raven

to windows boot at 1200mhz mem speed i must to put the nb voltage at the maximun, if not, the windows scrren freezes, or i get a advise before windows screen of a system file is broken an must to reisnstal it the memories are teem xtreem 9600 at other speeds i havent got any problem
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9...bujoeo6.th.jpg
03-14-2007, 01:10 PM
FlyBoyGeo

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwedge

What did you set your vcore in bios to get that? I've had mine up to 1.5725 so far and small FFT's fail right away. I haven't touched any of the other voltages yet and my memory is rock solid at 1k 4,4,4,12 2.2v in unlinked mode.

PS: Theres a guy on the abit forums running into the same sort of issue with kingston pc9600. Have you tried unlinked? Because I don't have that problem with my Patriot.

PS#2: I'll give 445 fsb a shot with the memory at 800 and see if it is an issue for me.

My vcore in bios is 1.6125 for 4050Mhz stable. Small FFTs and Blend are fine for over 12hrs. My mem voltage I found out can run 2.1v at 450 4-4-4-5 linked. I think it might be the voltages somehow, i will test more and report back.

EDIT: Here is a comparison screenie sedg.raven:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...EverestCPU.jpg
03-14-2007, 01:23 PM
maxwedge

RE: FlyBoyGeo

Thanks for the info.

I was testing at 445 fsb x 9 this morning and it started passing small FFt's at 1.6125 vcore but then started running into reboots now.:rolleyes: I wonder if my PC Power & Cooling 600 isn't up to this LOL. PWM is showing 100 amps average.

I have a chiller running on mine and have the water set at 7c. At 4k and 1.1625 vcore the load temps are about 40c LOL. Idle is 10c so thats a 30c jump. I'm thinking of trying a pelt on this.:stick:
03-14-2007, 01:52 PM
FlyBoyGeo

Yeah its weird, 10 mins ago, after a clear of cmos/bios, I was able to get into windows at 4050mhz and 500fsb unlinked (first time), but it froze up about 5 seconds into loading Abit guru. Ever since then not been able to do it again after 18 attempts, with various voltages changes. I dropped the memory down to 990 thinking it would be ok, but it crashed, that was unlinked.

Seems unlinked for me causes crashs, BSODs, and unstable Orthos. Linked I am fine up to 445*9 rock stable Orthos, memtest, SuperPI and 3 hrs of gaming last night.
03-14-2007, 03:09 PM
sedg.raven

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyBoyGeo

EDIT: Here is a comparison screenie sedg.raven:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...EverestCPU.jpg

I have a problem :slapass:
03-14-2007, 11:36 PM
FlyBoyGeo

Well finally I was able to get into windows at 500fsb unlinked @ 4050Mhz, but the only way for me to do this after some extreme tinkering with the settings was to use AUTO for everything in my memory settings. When I then selected the memory speed under unlinked to 1000, it would boot up 4-4-4-5 as stock specs. I was able to run SuperPI, with only slightly (.100) faster results than linked/synced 445fsb*9. Tried several voltages but still memtest and Orthos unstable using any unlinked settings... :(

I wonder if its my memory, I'd like to try some different stuff to see if thats the problem, however dont have any other ddr2 sticks...

Hows the progress everyone?
03-15-2007, 02:37 AM
day187

I want 4gHz to :D

So far this is what i've achived on Air.

what cooling you guys using,

http://www.overclock247.com/day187/3.9.JPG
03-15-2007, 08:38 AM
FlyBoyGeo

Quote:

Originally Posted by day187

I want 4gHz to :D

So far this is what i've achived on Air.

what cooling you guys using

Nice job! I am using stock heatpipe with 80mm fan over NB. To cool the cpu, stock Mach II.

Is your cpu Orthos stable?
03-15-2007, 10:30 AM
day187

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyBoyGeo

Nice job! I am using stock heatpipe with 80mm fan over NB. To cool the cpu, stock Mach II.

Is your cpu Orthos stable?

Hi

i'm using a stock heatpipe with a 80mm fan over NB to ;)

I have not tested the cpu in orthos, but i will give it a run this weekend

I run my cpu at 1.55v 3.8Ghz for 24/7

At 3950Mhz with 1.5750v-1.6v my temps are to high for 24/7 use

but with better cooling i i might be able to join the 4GHz club :banana: :banana: :banana:
03-15-2007, 11:06 AM
sedg.raven

a question, i have diferents memories speed reports memset vs cpuz, which of they are the real?
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7258/lolwm5.jpg

saludos
03-15-2007, 11:25 AM
FlyBoyGeo

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedg.raven

a question, i have diferents memories speed reports memset vs cpuz, which of they are the real? saludos

It appears that your cpu-z shows what your memory speed is, and the everest shows what your fsb speed is. Both appear correct!
03-15-2007, 12:14 PM
sedg.raven

ok lot of thanks

bye
03-15-2007, 01:05 PM
mr_knowitall15

Help!!!!

Alright, after all the tragedy Ive been through lately, my IN9 MAX has arrived to replace dead evga board. I put everything back together, all seems fine, except one teeny tiny problem... WINDOW REFUSES TO LOAD!!!!!! I booted from my disk, opting to do a clean install, so after it formatted, and installed windows, it went to the windows loading screen, and just locks up there. I restart try again, same thing. Now i can even boot from the disk... WHAT IS THE GOD DAMN PROBLEM?!?!?!?!?!?!? Is my HDD Screwy or something? If so im a freakin mouse click away from ordering a raptor (never had any trouble with the old one in my old rig..) and possibly vista. Somebody PLEASE PM me... Im at my wits end with this god damn computer!!!
So if anyone has had weird issues like this with this board PLEASE help me!!!
03-15-2007, 01:48 PM
MikeMK

Are you using a USB keyboard? Could be that the the board is set to run the keyboard in 'bios' rather than 'OS' as there is a known bug with this setting. If you have a USB keyboard, make sure u set it to 'OS'. Also, with your memory, make sure its getting enough voltage... the corsair dominator needs more than 1.8v stock doesnt it? If its anything like my cellshock the board defaults to 1.8v despite the fact that its stock voltage is 2.1v.
03-15-2007, 02:28 PM
maxwedge

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedg.raven

a question, i have diferents memories speed reports memset vs cpuz, which of they are the real?

saludos

Thats kind of strange there. On my board memset and cpuz memory both are always very close to the same. Within a few mhz.

How do you have the memory set up in the bios? Are you always seeing that difference between memset and cpuz?
03-15-2007, 02:33 PM
maxwedge

Quote:

Originally Posted by day187

I want 4gHz to :D

So far this is what i've achived on Air.

what cooling you guys using,

http://www.overclock247.com/day187/3.9.JPG

I can get 4ghz 32M stable no problem and at a lower vcore than what I've tried yet (1.6225) but Orthos is the problem.

I run a water chiller on the cpu and nb with variable temp control.
03-15-2007, 02:42 PM
maxwedge

Quote:

Originally Posted by nugzo

A little off topic sorry..
All of you and your 4ghz 6600's who did u blow? lol jk. I've been trying and trying with no luck. 6600's 6800's, 3060, 3070 (29B) 3800 is my max!

K back on topic...

For those of you who have tried other 680i's, Is this Abit getting any higher oc's than the others?

Sure glad that j/k is in there.:D
I'm close to 4k, and so are you;), but not orthos stable yet. Doing good at 3.9K now.

Haven't tried any other 680i's myself.
03-15-2007, 02:59 PM
mr_knowitall15

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMK

Are you using a USB keyboard? Could be that the the board is set to run the keyboard in 'bios' rather than 'OS' as there is a known bug with this setting. If you have a USB keyboard, make sure u set it to 'OS'. Also, with your memory, make sure its getting enough voltage... the corsair dominator needs more than 1.8v stock doesnt it? If its anything like my cellshock the board defaults to 1.8v despite the fact that its stock voltage is 2.1v.

Technically, it is a usb keyboard, but it is using a ps/2 adapter. Also, it IS set to OS. My Ram is getting the spec'd 2.2V, and at the relaxed SPD timings too. What in the world would cause windows to hang in such a way? I am running a complete scan using seatools from my trust ultimate boot cd, It is checking the drives and the controllers, even the system memory. Will update when it finishes.
Any other thoughts though?
03-15-2007, 03:30 PM
speedfreak86

Well, I finally got the itch again today...I am working on making 400 fsb (3.6ghz) stable in orthos with the same 1000Mhz 4-4-4-12 2T memory timings. Looks like it is gonna take some voltage though. So far 1.535 was not stable. I am keeping an eye on the pwm temps and the cpu temps though to make sure I don't burn it down. Still stock heatsink with just a 40mm fan on NB. Processor seems to be hitting about 52 C Max and PWMs are about 63 C Max under orthos stress testing after about 15 minutes. Do these seem too high?

Update, by about 20 minutes in Processor hit about 56 C and PWMs had hit a max of about 70 C. Too hot anyone? ----->failed at 20 min 46 sec
03-15-2007, 03:41 PM
mr_knowitall15

well, usb MOUSE support was set to BIOS, so i changed it to OS, BAM windows boots. I am now installing drivers, and like 1800000 Windows updates (damn SP1 Disk). DUMBEST..BUG..EVER..
Anyway, thanks for the help guy.
03-15-2007, 07:33 PM
speedfreak86

I can only get about 1 hour orthos stable with 3600. 1.555V Vcore and 2.175 Vdimm. Anyone got any thoughts or suggestions?
03-15-2007, 07:44 PM
FlyBoyGeo

Roger_D25 wrote a great post about memory timings for me, try loosening some up. His post references Gskill HZ which I have and his Crucial Ballistix. Read it ---> HERE
03-15-2007, 09:18 PM
NeoRecon

So how am I doing?

3.375Ghz
CPU V = 1.35
Mem = 2.2V

Everything else is still set to stock.

Memory is running at 1000Mhz stock 5-5-5-15 2T settings

My CPU is running about 51C under full load
My PWM's hover around 68-73 under full load (1-3 at or above 70, and 4-5 around 68)

So far Orthos tests seem to be OK. This is all Stock cooling except I re-did heat pipes with AS5 and rolled the pad on the PWM's for better contact.
My CPU is using the cooler in my sig and the fan is running at full speed when system is at full load.
03-16-2007, 07:07 AM
speedfreak86

Your CPU voltage is lower than mine(1.435) and your Vdimm is higher than mine(2.15). I also ran tighter timings though. I have virtually the same settings as my 24/7 setup(full story on page 30 and 31). My processor runs about 10 C cooler than yours and my pwms run about 15 C cooler. I wonder if it has to do with the case cooling, cpu cooling, or the 40mm fan I have on the NB. I may try to loosen my timings up to go for 3.6, but I was really hoping I could get there without having to. I may end up rigging up some new fans in the case to blow on RAM and PWM area. I was able to get a healthy reduction in temps with an 80mm Vantec Tornado blowing on the pwms. I did notice that at 3.6ghz last night everything was 32M stable and I was able to play DoD for about 2 hours with no problems, but I was getting some noise on the board from time to time (sounded like hard drive seeking, but coming from cpu area) usually when doing small tasks. Anyone have any thoughts on that? It only occurs at that high speed setting, not at 3.375.
03-16-2007, 07:28 AM
speedfreak86

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyBoyGeo

Roger_D25 wrote a great post about memory timings for me, try loosening some up. His post references Gskill HZ which I have and his Crucial Ballistix. Read it ---> HERE

Thanks, I am not at home right now so I will check those settings when I get home and see what they default to.
03-16-2007, 07:31 AM
NeoRecon

What are your settings? I'm attributing the lower CPU Voltage due to the Xeon Processor instead of the standard Core 2...Maybe that is BS, but I can't see any other reason.

I did get a BSOD this AM, but last night I was running fine.

50C seems to be about has hot as my CPU will get with my current setup. I have no fan on my PWM's right now, but do have a small 5CFM fan on the NB...which I'm guessing isn't cutting it very well.

I see you have the same memory as me. I'd really like to see your settings in detail as I haven't toyed with going past the stock settings from Crucial for it (2.2V 5-5-5-15 2T).

Jason
03-16-2007, 08:49 AM
speedfreak86

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoRecon

What are your settings? I'm attributing the lower CPU Voltage due to the Xeon Processor instead of the standard Core 2...Maybe that is BS, but I can't see any other reason.

I did get a BSOD this AM, but last night I was running fine.

50C seems to be about has hot as my CPU will get with my current setup. I have no fan on my PWM's right now, but do have a small 5CFM fan on the NB...which I'm guessing isn't cutting it very well.

I see you have the same memory as me. I'd really like to see your settings in detail as I haven't toyed with going past the stock settings from Crucial for it (2.2V 5-5-5-15 2T).

Jason

I get about 45-47 C at 24 hours of orthos with my cpu set at 3.375ghz and 1.435V and in the mid to upper 50C range on the PWMs. I actually saw a reduction in stability at 2.2V Vdimm from my current 2.15V, but like I said, that is at 4-4-4-12 2T timings 1000Mhz and the cpu at 3.375ghz(check out page 31, I think, to see everything). It basically sounds like we have the same cooling setup. I took the heatsinks off and put zalman thermal grease between the NB and SB chips and the heatsink as well as a dab of thermal grease in the pockets created by the thermal pad on the pwms. I can tell I am not getting equal pressure on all of the PWMs based on the ends having lower temps than the centers. Other than that it is just the Zalman 9700, 40mm fan on the NB, and 3X120mm case fans. For the 3.6Ghz, I think that this will be inadequate and so I ordered a set of Dominator RAM fans today and an additional 120mm aerocool turbine fan to swap out for the rear 120mm fan in my case(and a DVD burner to play with :D ).
03-16-2007, 12:29 PM
sedg.raven

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwedge

Thats kind of strange there. On my board memset and cpuz memory both are always very close to the same. Within a few mhz.

How do you have the memory set up in the bios? Are you always seeing that difference between memset and cpuz?

always are different but i think only whith the team xtreem with cellshock i think are the same but tomorrow i test whith both pairs, and in bios are 360x10 5:4 divisor :confused: but not sure

thanks
03-16-2007, 06:56 PM
Spazilton

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_knowitall15

well, usb MOUSE support was set to BIOS, so i changed it to OS, BAM windows boots. I am now installing drivers, and like 1800000 Windows updates (damn SP1 Disk). DUMBEST..BUG..EVER..
Anyway, thanks for the help guy.

Sounds like its time to make a new Slipstreamed SP2 disk :)

On a side note,

Newegg is sending me a replacement due to the Incuctor whine and hissing. Guy I talked to said they are having a decent amount of these sent back for replacements or refunds.
03-16-2007, 10:06 PM
OKsoVRomoSkylo

Don't forget cooling your ram guys! anything around or over 2.2v will make them go really hot in the long run under load specially in small cramped cases.
placing a fan on them will improve your stability and will help pass lengthy stress tests.
03-16-2007, 11:18 PM
momomo6789

anyone know why mine is dead and says 83 on the led thx :)
03-17-2007, 10:57 AM
MikeMK

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_knowitall15

well, usb MOUSE support was set to BIOS, so i changed it to OS, BAM windows boots. I am now installing drivers, and like 1800000 Windows updates (damn SP1 Disk). DUMBEST..BUG..EVER..
Anyway, thanks for the help guy.

Glad you got it sorted... didnt realise the board had the same problem with USB mice aswell! LOL!
03-17-2007, 12:19 PM
FlyBoyGeo

Quote:

Originally Posted by momomo6789

anyone know why mine is dead and says 83 on the led thx :)

Manual says "83 - Save all data in stack back to CMOS"

I would probably clear CMOS and try again. Shut it down, flip the clear switch, pull out the battery if you really want to be sure, wait 10 mins, then replace and start up. Enter new values in BIOS, slowly, not all at once. My $.02.
03-17-2007, 02:52 PM
Heidfirst

Quote:

Originally Posted by momomo6789

anyone know why mine is dead and says 83 on the led thx :)

is it 83 or 8.3.?
8.3. usually points to a PSU/power problem.
03-17-2007, 05:11 PM
maxwedge

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMK

Glad you got it sorted... didnt realise the board had the same problem with USB mice aswell! LOL!

I use a usb mouse and have it set to bios. No probs at all. Logitech G5.
03-17-2007, 05:59 PM
speedfreak86

I just tried the 1333 strap on my computer after doing some "cooling mods" (aka hanging some vantec tornados to the open case blowing on the mobo parts and opening a window for some cooool winter air) and it was less stable than the 1066 strap. It failed orthos after 9 minutes at much lower temperatures. So, I am going back to the 1066 and testing 3.6 ghz.
03-17-2007, 09:52 PM
momomo6789

umm its 8.3. so it is atx power but i know my psu is fine i tryed 2 diff ones ocz 700 and a silverstone 850 watt both same thing back to frys with it this is 2nd one that did same thing but atm i have a abit quad gt runing fine
03-17-2007, 10:44 PM
OKsoVRomoSkylo

@momomo: what do you think max? could it be that little resistor not soldered properly?? looks like it.
03-17-2007, 11:02 PM
momomo6789

2 mobos in a row if thats true bad bad abit the first mobo lasted about 30 secs whet in bios restarted and 8.3. 2nd one had 3 boots Rebooted set bios it set my memory 1.8v 1066 4.4.4.4 crazyness had to fix that restarted forgot to plug in my cd drive so i did that and then the mobo died ehhe

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