What for bios is that :o ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldonko
I have F3 and i can selected only +0,1,2,3V.
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What for bios is that :o ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldonko
I have F3 and i can selected only +0,1,2,3V.
Where?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldonko
Can only select 0,1,2,3V for what? That SS was F3G, but F4D looks the same..Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Hardstylez
Go hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php
Got it...i'll try, always try betas.
new bios
http://modbox.hu/download/gigabyte/
Is anyone else having a problem of WMP crashing over 400fsb? I was at 440 and it primed fine, yet WMP kept crashing, had to lower it to 400 to get it to work (DS3 F5e BIOS)
Changed to F5 now, at 400mhz (3.2ghz effective) priming steady as a rock, no wmp issues so im going to try and increase it some more tonight
stupid question......which one is the northbridge (im presuming its the one with the large slightly ornate heatsink on it) as im putting +0.3v through and want to keep it cool
you got it. the one withthe bigger heatsink
you should buy a 40 or 50mm fan and hotglue it to it.
it will drop your temps big time on the NB.
WMP crashing. i will assume that would be some sort of a memory error causing it to crash or possibly overclocking the video card too far.
maybe have the pci-e freq too high or not high enough.
i thought i saw some people saying that setting the pci-e freq to like 412 made the 1900 series card run better... i dont know though i dont have one..
if your pulling video or audio off of a usb device it could also be caused by that. usb can at times get goofy with high fsb. sometimes.. really depends on the board though. i have had a couple of hickups but cant say it was the usb bus or if it was the usb device itself.
ds4 power:clap:
vcpu 1.4
vddr 2.4
vmch1.6
vfsb 1.5
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1...1024mhzkf5.png
well it has half or the airflow from a 120mm one so its ok (the other half goes over my vga ramsinks)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
well it primed absolutely fine, graphics card wasnt overclocked
(setting the PCI-E to 412 :slobber: , do you mean 112? i hope so, ill go set that and try it
I didnt realise you had to adjust the pci-e to keep it stable, oh well you live and learn
Quote:
Originally Posted by finlay666
oops sorry yeah 112
and yes you have to set the pci-e freq to ATLEAST 100 to make anything stable on these boards.
and many times not always though you have to increase the pci-e freq accordingly.
usually i dont touch it but i have went to 115mhz without a single issue.
lock it in at 100mhz and see what it does.
well at 100mhz i got to 430ish so hopefully ill get like 440+
kocsonya... hhmm i assume its a cpu-z bug since its showing your pci-e link at 1x and not 8x or 16x ?
you having any video issues.?
but good stuff man keep going.
Mch + 0,1/+0,2 or +0,3V not 0,15V like on that bios screen .Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldonko
thank you for realizing, i haven't even realized that:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Quote:
Originally Posted by kocsonya
cool stuff!
hajrá magyarok! :D
Respekt!
jugeen
Tried F5c...lol, either i'm thick or the mobo i have is total rubbish. Tried everything once again, it crashs past 340FSB.
Think i should just give up and buy a new DQ6, though there is no guarantee that will be any better. I'm wondering if my X-Fi souncard or ATI X550 could be the cause?
There seems to be some new things in F5c, the DIMM voltage control is now called "DDR2 OverVoltage Control", and the various voltages are split into three colors. +0.275V is normal color, +0.300 upto 0.500 is pink in color. Above this is flashing red.
Guess it's a warning thingy, also was "Robust Graphics Booster" always listed under M.I.T. ?
Not sure if it was, if so then it's moved position...i think is was below CPU Voltage Control, now it's at the very top of the menu screen, above CPU Clock Ratio....everything else is the same as F4.
ok keep testing richard. i get off work in a couple of hours so i'll be testing then.
It's not a bug of CPU-Z. Sometimes some P965 mobos set PCI-E link width to x1 without any apparent reason. I've had the same with gigabyte dq6 and asus P5B deluxe and 7900GT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
well F6a is a step backwards.
i personally wouldnt recommend you even bother with it.
still no GSkill 6400 HZ support over 950mhz STABLE and i mean STABLE
overclocking still has zero changes. infact i can no longer boot at 412hz x9
it wont let me do that. every other bios todate lets me do that fine but not this one.
looks like all they did was change the vdimm settings to colors now.
2.1 and 2.2 are purple and 2.3 and 2.4v are red.
this is definately not an improvement..
stick with F5
where is F6a?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
n the DS3 f5 bios under "Advanced BIOS features" should I have "No execute memory protect" and "CPU thermal monitor" disabled if shooting for max OC.
Official F4 is now on the Gigabyte website:
http://www.giga-byte.com.tw/Support/...me=GA-965P-DQ6
And F5 for the DS3:
http://www.giga-byte.com.tw/Support/...ProductID=2314
Strangely...no official F4 for the DS4:
http://www.giga-byte.com.tw/Support/...ProductID=2288
F4 for the S3:
http://www.giga-byte.com.tw/Support/...ProductID=2321
F3 for the (G)S3:
http://www.giga-byte.com.tw/Support/...ProductID=2361
F5c now out for DQ6....
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php
Has any1 tried f5c for DQ6? Is there any improvement for stability? i know only this:
1. Warning VDimm > +0.275V
2. Fix Diverse
THX!
Respect!
surely CPU Thermal Monitor gave you a clue? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by GAM
this option does not affect idle speeds, it throttles the cpu once it reaches a preset temperature to prevent damage occuring to the die
@ BottomsUp, DS3 F6A BIOS : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=115157
Doh, :slapass:. Sorry, was thinking of CPU EIST Function.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyr0
(note, deleted erroneous post)
FYI (Extract from planetx64 http://www.planetx64.com/index.php?o...limitstart=3):
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) will slow down your CPU when idle to keep temperatures down, this is like the Cool ‘n’ Quiet feature of the AMD processors, and for maximum performance when benchmarking it is recommended to set it to disabled.
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) will throttle your CPU when it reaches a preset temperature.
CPU EIST Function enables/disables the Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology which is a lot bit like the AMD Cool'n'Quiet feature. If enabled, EIST will throttle your CPU speed (Via the multipliers) and Voltage when the processor is idle.
Virtualization Technology is an option for future use, currently no software takes advantage of it. Possible support may be introduced in future versions of applications such as VMware or it may be useful in Vista, but for the time being, I set it to disabled.
I have tried you various bios on my DS4, F3 F4C F4 and the last F5B but with the C1E seems strange like if it didn't work... all to default and all enabled but from cpu-z it always remains firm to max...it never doesn't come down neither in idle
what can be? :stick: :confused:
I haven't played with them much but try the CPU EIST Function. With this enabled I would regularly notice the multiplier dropping from 8x to 6x in idle moments.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GAM
all enabled....Not-Execute, C1E, Thermal Monitor ad EIST....infact is that would to happen but with any bios doesn't change, remains firm to the maximum :confused:
in the windows control panel > power options, have you tried changing the power schemes?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyr0
in win i don't change nothing :confused: .....with other P4 which supported the function C1E wasn't necessary to change something and it went normal....however I try thanks ;)
Mirror all DS3 bios incl F6a http://www.cranox.com/Gigabyte/DS3/
Woah cranox, who's that chick :D
Ok, I've got a DQ6 and F4 loaded, but I'm utterly confused as to setting the fsb:memory divider. All I can see (even after ctrl+f1) is the System Memory Multiplier, which is simply fsb * mult = Memory MHz...this is *not* what I'm after.
What if I want to force my RAM to say 2/3rd FSB, or 5/6 FSB?
Cheers!
Also any advantages of moving to F5c?
Does anyone know if my RAID5 array will be destroyed if I update my BIOS?
Quote:
Originally Posted by celerity
ahhhh...no
anyone try F6a? yet
I must say im on the verge :mad:, so close to taking a screwdriver and killing my DS4, even at 400fsb witch is 7 hours prime stable i still cant reboot, have to reset 27 times to get back from perpetual onoffonoff bla bla...:slapass:
F5B bios just makes it worse and even my "stable" settings didnt work, and the bios wouldent even save this, just bootet stock all the time..
To heck with the colours, get the oc settings to work properly Gigabyte!!
Im went back to F4 final, and then i tried 430fsb, 1,45Vc, Vmch +0,45, +550 Vdimm, pci-e 100mhz, and wow it bootet into win but after 5 mins it crashed, i try'd loads of different settings after this but it wouldent boot at 430fsb again...
What to do now?
I have exactly the same problem as you have. I have just tried the F3 yet but finaly I got it to Boot at 8x400 with vCore 1,465 Dimm +0,4 Vmch +0,15 and FSB +0,15 and it was stable with PI M32 no problem. Made several reboots still no problem, turned it on after a trip to town and then it just boots 2sec and then of and on like that for ever and i have to CMOS and start all over again. This must be some kind of bios issue, kind of sad to hear thet the problems aint solved with the newer bioses :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by GrindBastard
Still on stock cooling though. Do you have thge same kind of problems to get above 400 with water on CPU and NB??
when the mobo enter in cycle on-off-on-off just pull out battery ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GrindBastard
regards
Well im searching for some answers to, maybe its a stripe issue and all fsb settings from 401 and on is no go...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirt
I have tried multiple settings, all settings in advanced bios settings are disabled, from no execute to virtualization, and i left the side of my stacker case for 2 weeks, i can reset the cmos in a jif now... :mad:
All my temps are fine, chipset is not watercooled, but i have 2*80mm fans over mems and chipset, so its not a heat problem..
I reset it at the front of my stacker, if i have to pull the battery out i need to take my gfx and radiator out...Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
Its a damn nightmare.. :slapass:
So if I pull the battery it wount reset the settings to default?? Thats the anoying part that you have to enter all the :banana::banana::banana::banana: into the bios again :mad: Must say that this board start to piss me off.Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
DS3 has best BIOS support until now and DS4 has worst BIOS support until now
I did not notice any difference from F4e, though I have not had much time to tinker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajfina
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post1710794
Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
noooooo you dont have to yank the batter all you have to do is reset the cmos.
guys listen..
99.9% of the rebooting issue caused by these baords is caused by two things.
not enough vcore or too tight of timings on the ram.
you also need to start nailing the insert and delete keys when it goes into the reboot sequence.
this will force it back to defualts to get you into the bios.
its supposed to only be the insert key but it doesnt always work many times i have to do it 5 or 6 times ot get it to work but its easier then opening the case and going in and resetting the cmos.. lol sometimes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirt
yes it will reset everything
but there isnt that much in the bios it shouldnt take you more than 1 minute to go thru and redo all the bios stuff. its not the end of the world.
but yes gigabyte needs to get off their collective a$$es and fix this sh|t.
the board needs to reset itself to a safe boot mode so you can get back into the bios.
I wish you had mentioned this before now :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
okay so, is there any type of changelog on these BIOS releases? I mean, from F4 to F5, and then what is the differences in F6a?
It's hard for me to notice anything that is different unless it's spelled out for me. Would be nice to know....
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php - Neue BIOSe von GigabyteQuote:
Originally Posted by InternalStorm
Has anyone using the DS3 F6a beta bios noticed if Easytune now shows a different temp reading?
Flashed F4 my DQ6 and this is my best so far w/ that bios.No tweaks just testing how high can i go , mem is 8000UL rev.1 , and i can also reach same fsb w/ my 2g supertalent sticks same timings.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/paakkis/8M_500x7.gif
The strange thing in my case is that it keeps in fuc**ng up this way frome time to time undepending if vCore which i now have at (Real) 1,440 volt and the memory is at 4-4-3-10 @ 400 that is the original rating and I tried 4:5 and they do 490Mhz easy with the same timings. The stange part is that i tried to boot with 1,5vCore and 8x390 and then set the fsb up with easytune and then I ran Pi M1 @ 8x425Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Tried the F5b bios and it is still the same sh]t.
No voltage adjustments at at?...lol, my board must be the runt of the litter.Quote:
Originally Posted by paakkis
Okay I have been reading this thread a lot recently, and I am beginning to get very annoyed! I can't get my board to post past 380Mhz with (G)MCH and FSB voltage +0.3 and PCIE voltage +0.1... and even now I'm getting memory fails in orthos. CPU is currently at 1.5V not sure of real voltage :S, and you're using stock voltages?!
I upgraded to F4 and F5 (final versions) recently and my prime stability have been going down the toilet. I would get 4-6hrs stability max before prime fails. But I remember posting on hardforum about a 16 hrs stability. This was when I was using the f3 bios (or maybe f4e but not likely).
Anyway. So I downgraded back to f3 and now I'm priming at the exact settings as before but I am now over 16 hrs of prime without errors yet (knock on wood). I think the old f3 has better hidden ram timings or something.
If you guys are having trouble with prime stability try going back to f3.
I just found that the Componets around the Socket get way to Hot. I am Sure this has hindered Overclocking.
I Do not remember CPU Power componets getting this hot on newer boards.I used to Sink all the Fet's on earlyer boards but I stoped doing it recently noticeing that there was not any Heat Issues.
This seems to be different on the DQ6. At defaults with a 80MM fan for cooling the componets get well above 50C. Overclocked and Vcore set to 1.45 I taped a thermal probe onto one it peged my reader @ 65C inabout 45 Secs.
Just tried bios F5C in my DQ6, previously had F4D.
In back to back tests I lost about 5 fsb, and I ran repeated tests to make sure
the results weren't random. Strange thing is, the newer bios had slightly
better performance in prime95 clock for clock. Scratching my head over this one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by roller11
well dont forget guy that its a beta bios so gigabyte is going to be testing different settings in the chipset and other bios tweaks to find the best of everything.
you are testing 2 beta bios's.. test two final retail bios.. or 1 old final bios and a new beta.
so you can see the difference between the two.
Im finding F6a a step backwards, my max OC has lowered now, and ram wont go as high as before
Quote:
Originally Posted by InternalStorm
Quote:
--- GA-965P-DS3- BetaBIOS Version F6a
1. Warning VDim > +0.275v
2.Fix SmartFan Easytune
3. Fix QST
--- GA-965P-DQ6- BetaBIOS Version F5c
---GA-965P-DS4- BetaBIOS Version F5b
1. Warning VDim > +0.275v
2.Fix SmartFan Easytune
3. Fix QST
4. Fix Scantime ICH8R AHCI/RAID
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php
regards
Today I mounted watercooling to the cpu and all previous problems with stability (Orthos) @ 8x390 and above seems to be gone. With air cooling it ran for 20-40minutes @ 8x390 and about 5minutes @ 8x400 and now I ran it for 3hours at 8x390 before i stoped it.
As bypolar says the heatpipe system gets so hot that you almost burn at it when the cpu fan dissaper, an extra fan to adjust or water cooling on NB seems crucial. I will mount a water block at the NB and a big Zalman sink on the SB tomorrow. If it is needed I will manufacture sinks for the mosfet´s.
EDIT: About the voltages discussed above, I have noticed that CPU-Z have shown just 1,215v instead of the actual voltage when you made adjustments with EasyTune5. So I bet those results is not with 1,213v at all. Just check my post above and compare EasyTune vCore with the one shown by CPU-Z
Very helpful and i just set the timings to 4-5-4-15 and i rebootet just fine at 400fsb, and well i just went on to hit the next step to get at 430fsb stable, im 15 mins prime stable just now, but damn im at loose looser 5-6-6-15 timings, 1,475Vc, +0,55 Vmch, +0550 Vdimm, and pci-e still at 100mhz...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Need some new mems, they aint helping me...
Bahh it failed prime after 30 mins, more testing then...
Anyone try 1.6v or more vcore on Ds4 or dq6 bios or easytune??Bsods on mine:slapass:
Quote:
Originally Posted by fenomenhaa
yes, my ds4 boot also 1.7V from bios and +0.6 on vdimm :toast: ....ah with any bios is the same :woot: :)
Currently running at 1.675vcore (which appears to undervolt by 0.025ish) 24/7 on my 6600@3.7Ghz/DQ6.Quote:
Originally Posted by fenomenhaa
I started a new thread about OC on the DS4 since this thread is just for discussing BIOS on these Gigabyte boards: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=115410
new BIOS for DQ6: F5d
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php
My post earlier Vcore at EasyTune 1.5v, cpu-z dont show real voltage.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jugeen
hope make something also for the ds4 that it has some problem with 6600 retail :)Code:GA-965P-DQ6 - BetaBIOS Version F5b
1. Fix E6600/E6700 >400 FSB
Your hope came true. There is a new for DS4 too.Quote:
Originally Posted by shark2
11.09.06
GA-965P-DQ6 - BetaBIOS Version F5d
GA-965P-DS4 - BetaBIOS Version F5c
GA-965P-DS3 - BetaBIOS Version F6b
1. Fix E6600/E6700 >400 FSB
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php
Could this be the one that helps us E6700 (and the E6600) users out? Can't wait to get home and test!!!!!!!! (Stupid work!)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jugeen
AZZ :eek: .....I try immediately....thanks :woot:
Just tried F6B. Up to bios release F5 my FSB limit was 450 F5 bios gave me a limit of 470 new limit with F6B is 500 think my RAM is limiting me now though
GL HF :DQuote:
Originally Posted by shark2
f6b worst for me and my 6600
help....i flashed bios F5C for DS4...first boot has gone well but but after to have made Load Optimized... the PC it goes and freeza to the phase of boot of the HD and it does not make me to enter in the bios...
I have tried also to detach readers and hd, to reset CMOS and removing the battery but it does not change nothing....how I can make? :(
Well... I have given up on my DQ6. It has been nothing put a pain in the ass dealing with gigabyte. F5d and they still can't get things fixed.
Since it's too late to return it I'm just going to stick my 940 in it and use it for folding, etc...
The P5B I got as a relacement lets me does 390x9 easy. I could never get the DQ6 stable over 366.
I'll check back from time to time to see if any new bios has fixed all of the dq6's problems and I may get another 6600 to put in it.
Mel
i see the DS3 F6b is posted on the guys site.
i flashed it real quick before i left for work but didnt get much time to play with it.
I set the FSB immediately from defualt to 400 x 9 @ 1.34v and rebooted and it booted right up. so thats a good thing.
i'll test more after work.
Quote:
Originally Posted by shark2
someone has suggestions? :stick:
Lestat....LOOK http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=120510Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
:slobber:
:D
How much voltage do you guys think i need to get 400FSB?...right now i have the G9MCH) at 0.4V and the FSB set to 0.2V...any thoughts?
Said voltages are just test right now, i'll always try lower volts where i can.
mascaras:
Where did you get/find those release notes? Also, the "fixed smartfan" makes me laugh a little. I had a trouble ticket back and forth with GB on the issue and their official reply to my "It's on the box." was "Features can and will change from model to model." :fact:
Quote:
Originally Posted by GAM
How do i download F6B off there?
If i can work it out i'll host it.
Set it to AUTO and the mobo will adjust the voltage automatic :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
not sure why it would need hosting, it's easy enough to just grab from that site :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by horrorwood
at the top of the first page, select "Neue BIOSe von Gigabyte (GA-965P-DQ6, GA-965P-DS4, GA-965P-DS3, GA-965P-S3 usw...)"
on the next page scroll to the bottom and select the BIOS you want from the dropdown menu
400FSB!!!!!
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=120533
BUT...weird bug in F5d...the X-FI soundcard, it's a weird issue of it not being recognised by Windows?....it won't load drivers, keeps looking for them and when i point to the folder it says software not found.
Not sure why this is happening.
P.s. the DQ6 file is F5d beta dated Sept. 11th 2006.
To reach 400FSB i have the (G) MCH set to 0.1V and the FSB also set to 0.1V, 400x7=2800Mhz, with a Vcore of 1.36250.
No stability testing done though, this is on a fresh install of Windows XP Pro SP2.
More on the X-Fi issue, i did a fresh install of the OS, when i booted into Windows i got a new hardware detected warning...this never happens.
Device Manager listed "Multimedia Audio Device", i install the latest drivers and reboot...still a yellow question mark over the soundcard, i manually install drivers and it dosen't find them?
I back the FSB down to normal 266x9...she's detected and driver loaded, now i push back to 400x7...everything in Device Manager seems OK.
Gonna keep an eye on this to see if the soundcard gets lost again, must be a bug or something in the OC or PCI bus speed etc.
richard those X-Fi cards cause all kinds of issues for people.
personally until you can get your system stable.
REMOVE the X-Fi card.....
i dont know what to tell you rich... crank the vcore up to 1.55v and see how far you can go..
i dont understand whats going on with your system but id almost bet you if you sent it to me id have it running at 400 x 9 10 minutes after i got it. lol.
i think there is something your doing or NOT doing in the bios.... something just isnt right.... or maybe the X-Fi is making the system unstable.... ?
hey rich why dont you MSN/AIM/YAhoo me and we can go over some stuff...
Orthos stable for 20 mins now.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jodiuh
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4897/xsgw6.th.jpg
;)
BTW: anyone already tryed de F6b for DS3 ???
regards
Why does Window show me 3.6Ghz in CPU speed? under "General" and "System Properties" it says 3.6Ghz on the CPU...but set a 9x multi it shows the correct speed.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=120552
Baby steps.