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    Quote Originally Posted by nebuchanezzar View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by generics_user View Post
    afaik it fits on every 775 and i7 board out there, you may need to turn it by 90° but this doesn't hurt the performance
    It does hurt performance. A little bit, at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generics_user View Post
    afaik it fits on every 775 and i7 board out there, you may need to turn it by 90° but this doesn't hurt the performance
    Whoops sorry I mean if it would fit both orientations horizontal and vertical on the EVGA X58, just to know so if I can experiment with both orientations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generics_user View Post
    afaik it fits on every 775 and i7 board out there, you may need to turn it by 90° but this doesn't hurt the performance
    I'd expect that with almost any waterblock that uses impingement in the shape of a line, orientation would be an issue with quad-core CPU's.
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    I have the koolance 350at and I love it.
    It's the acetal version and personally, i think it looks a lot more classy than the clear top.
    Either way, it works excellent and it is indeed an impressive piece all around.

    Reading this thread makes me feel even better about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worthy View Post
    I have the koolance 350at and I love it.
    It's the acetal version and personally, i think it looks a lot more classy than the clear top.
    Either way, it works excellent and it is indeed an impressive piece all around.

    Reading this thread makes me feel even better about it.
    well i'd feel worse about it after reading all those HK threads
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    Quote Originally Posted by generics_user View Post
    well i'd feel worse about it after reading all those HK threads
    I am going to guess that there is not much of a temp. difference but the HK will flow better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generics_user View Post
    well i'd feel worse about it after reading all those HK threads
    worry? i beg to disagree...

    k350 pawned the high flow waterblocks...

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=219081


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    i dont understand the HK block at all.

    it has injectors but its free flowing like thre XSPC Rev.2? Does that make sense to anyone?

    Injectors + free flowing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    i dont understand the HK block at all.

    it has injectors but its free flowing like thre XSPC Rev.2? Does that make sense to anyone?

    Injectors + free flowing?
    Not sure but its internal nearly like ek supreme to me. Probably they undergo several type of the injector plate before they come out with that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparda View Post
    Not sure but its internal nearly like ek supreme to me. Probably they undergo several type of the injector plate before they come out with that one.
    which is why im saying i dont understand the block at all.



    Now the basics of injectors, simplified, is to form an obstruction in the flow path, it increase velocity of the water. The increased velocity causes turbulance and aggitiation inside which leads to a more efficient heat transfer.

    So if you have free flowing, WTF is the turbulance and aggitation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    which is why im saying i dont understand the block at all.



    Now the basics of injectors, simplified, is to form an obstruction in the flow path, it increase velocity of the water. The increased velocity causes turbulance and aggitiation inside which leads to a more efficient heat transfer.

    So if you have free flowing, WTF is the turbulance and aggitation?
    Fuzion v2 is impingement type of block as well but doesnt hinder from free flow. What I mean is that they probably tweak the block..eg. choose a balance injector plate( free flow + good water acceleration ) , the base , water channel..etc...who know.

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    I wonder if that means there's some more performance to be had with a different, more restrictive plate? Maybe they should sell blanks, like KL does for their 350.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    which is why im saying i dont understand the block at all.



    Now the basics of injectors, simplified, is to form an obstruction in the flow path, it increase velocity of the water. The increased velocity causes turbulance and aggitiation inside which leads to a more efficient heat transfer.

    So if you have free flowing, WTF is the turbulance and aggitation?
    i gotta give it to you....you're the only one who seen that




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparda View Post
    Fuzion v2 is impingement type of block as well but doesnt hinder from free flow. What I mean is that they probably tweak the block..eg. choose a balance injector plate( free flow + good water acceleration ) , the base , water channel..etc...who know.
    you kidding me?

    drop a 3.5mm nozzle and lets see how free flowing your fusion becomes.

    4.4mm nozzle is what everyone used on a dualcore because thats what scaled the best on a single pump. And a 4.4mm nozzle + EK Oring is significantly more restictive then a fusion base.

    Sorry, the block just makes no sense...
    I want to see numbers on the block, if anything i can see it performing pretty well like the EK LT,
    but better because of the thinner base, and smaller cut.

    I still dont see how this would win against a upper tier injector block tho. The GTZ and KL350 for example.

    Phobia is what really got me curious. Under a good pump, and that ultra thin of a base with micro pits, i think this can be a contender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    you kidding me?

    drop a 3.5mm nozzle and lets see how free flowing your fusion becomes.

    4.4mm nozzle is what everyone used on a dualcore because thats what scaled the best on a single pump. And a 4.4mm nozzle + EK Oring is significantly more restictive then a fusion base.

    Sorry, the block just makes no sense...
    I want to see numbers on the block, if anything i can see it performing pretty well like the EK LT,
    but better because of the thinner base, and smaller cut.

    I still dont see how this would win against a upper tier injector block tho. The GTZ and KL350 for example.
    Obviously and I am aware of it. But can still choose the nozzle -.-
    I think it not all about nozzle as well somebody post on HK LC which has less water channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoffey View Post
    The HK3 makes perfect sense. Beats the 350 slightly with half the restriction. It's a winner on i7, KL 350 step aside

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    you kidding me?

    drop a 3.5mm nozzle and lets see how free flowing your fusion becomes.

    4.4mm nozzle is what everyone used on a dualcore because thats what scaled the best on a single pump. And a 4.4mm nozzle + EK Oring is significantly more restictive then a fusion base.

    Sorry, the block just makes no sense...
    I want to see numbers on the block, if anything i can see it performing pretty well like the EK LT,
    but better because of the thinner base, and smaller cut.

    I still dont see how this would win against a upper tier injector block tho. The GTZ and KL350 for example.

    Phobia is what really got me curious. Under a good pump, and that ultra thin of a base with micro pits, i think this can be a contender.
    The key is in the shape of the top. It's LIKE the ek, but it is also very different. As for the plate in the middle it is less restrictive than the supreme's inner plate. Coupled with the deeper channels which stay deeper for longer. By eye it looks like it would have more flow. The numbers also don't lie either... look at HESmelaugh's results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiNGE View Post
    The key is in the shape of the top. It's LIKE the ek, but it is also very different. As for the plate in the middle it is less restrictive than the supreme's inner plate. Coupled with the deeper channels which stay deeper for longer. By eye it looks like it would have more flow. The numbers also don't lie either... look at HESmelaugh's results.
    flow and pressure is inversely relative on the pumps we use. Thats why all pump charts start out with uber high pressure at near 0 flow rate, and you see it drop as the flow rates increase.

    Meaning less flow = greater pressure.

    So if it has little flow loss, it means the injectors arent doing there job. It has nothing to do with shape of top, that would allow a better wash, but you still need a pressure drop inside the block for there to be turbulance and velocity.

    Im trying to understand this block, andy says it won, so i like to see final numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoffey View Post
    It'll just make you cry,

    andyc
    not really because im not on a stock KL-350 now am i?

    Dean sent Skinnee and Me prototype injectors and there actually pretty good.

    And im running a rev.2 backplate.

    I still want to see numbers tho.
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    and i thought the backplate was good...now a rev2...hmmmm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
    and i thought the backplate was good...now a rev2...hmmmm
    You see where it says prototype:
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    lol.. funny pic there naekuh nim
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    Quote Originally Posted by lazy View Post
    lol.. funny pic there naekuh nim
    that accelerator and backplate is not available on the retail version yet. :T

    The stock backplate doees not have a hole like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post

    GB x58 extreme users be warned. Well the thermal performance was something i was expecting. but stay tuned i got 25 mounts to do


    **pump setup on post#1
    Please elaborate on that Hondacity.
    What exactly do you mean it wont fit on the GB boards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo4g View Post
    Please elaborate on that Hondacity.
    What exactly do you mean it wont fit on the GB boards?

    What board do you have?
    picture shows correct orientation that i use...i said specifically gb 58 extreme...dunno other mobos..i only have one mobo...

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