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Old 04-09-2006, 11:22 AM   #826
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April 4 D975XBX BIOS release

I think you are right, but I am ever the optimist.
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Old 04-09-2006, 12:24 PM   #827
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D975XBX needs a new PCB revision, a BIOS update WILL NOT provide Conroe support for existing PCB's
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Old 04-09-2006, 12:56 PM   #828
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Ana asks. Do you believe that the motherboards will come out for July, before the conroe?

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Old 04-09-2006, 04:21 PM   #829
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nice thread crap, noob.

You keep your 3000+ we will all go with conroe's.
why do some of you are so sensitive and then get ugly?
call me noob or whatever you wish, I am just as interested as you (Intel disciple). By no means I am interested in any flame. take it somewhere else please.

Edit: I reduced the speed to 2.4ghz (A64 3000) and loosen timings to 3-5-5-10
and get WinRar = 684
WinRar multithreading gives same results since I dont have dual core.
This is not a flame. More than anything, I am interested in price/performance for my next upgrade, be it Intel or AMD.

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Old 04-09-2006, 06:03 PM   #830
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I think WinRar is more ram related to a point.


my Dual core in single thread is only 647 with the CPU and Ram at 250*10 and 3-4-4 timings.

your ram is flying at 300 mhz which is making up for my 100 mhz advantage in CPU and slighly better timings.
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Old 04-09-2006, 06:14 PM   #831
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To compare Vic's latest results on Conroe to a 2.8 ghz dual core 1 MB cache Athlon64 X2 -- (with the same unofficial binary -- which I made myself)

With the best compiled build (Pentium 4 build):

Molecular Dynamics

A64: 1872.68
Cre: 2133.38

Primordia

A64: 1506.83
Cre: 1365.85

Cryptography

A64: 1345.05
Cre: 1065.59

STREAM

A64: 1512.55
Cre: 1242.94

Memory Benchmark

A64: 1586.46
Cre: 1465.20

BLAS/FLOPs

A64: 1449.17
Cre: 1836.98

MolDyn is a beast on Conroe -- but as you will see on multiple review websites, 64-bit mode is much faster in moldyn -- I can't wait to see a 64-bit result!
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Old 04-09-2006, 07:03 PM   #832
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VictorWang, benchmark Comanche 4 Demo at 1024x768x32
Opteron 170 @ 2.95GHz - 116fps
can you run Comanche 4 Demo with Conroe ? Thanks
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Old 04-09-2006, 07:16 PM   #833
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Why are you guys comparing a 2.8Ghz and 2.9Ghz AMd chips to a 2.4Ghz chip.....?


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Old 04-09-2006, 07:22 PM   #834
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i think people are starting to compare to high frequency chips cause they can't admit tha intel is and will be releasing a very good chip..

i am not a fan from either company, what does the job, does the job.
but seening some of these stats so far i think some amd fan bois, have to suck it up , and bow for the moment .
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Old 04-09-2006, 07:44 PM   #835
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maybe it's so they know how much better the conroe is than the A64... yes, everyone knows it's superior clock for clock, but if we (the community as a whole) can say a conroe at 2.4ghz = a toledo at 2.9 or 3ghz, we can say it is xx% faster. isn't that the whole point of making comparisons?
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Old 04-09-2006, 08:10 PM   #836
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Why are you guys comparing a 2.8Ghz and 2.9Ghz AMd chips to a 2.4Ghz chip.....?
Why not?

If a stock 2.4 ES Conroe, that's yet to be thoroughly sorted out, can win a few/lose a few, to a 2.8 A64-X2, that's saying quite a bit, IMHO.

But seriously, I think it's just a case of the old street racer's adage of "run what ya' brung"!

Yeah, not perfect "apples to apples", but hey, better than nothing at all!

And let's face it: We are Overclockers!

Now let's see what happens when the Conroe guys acquire the ability to start crankin' up the clocks/FSB's, & start doin' some OC'd benchies!

*drools*

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>edit<

Wow, not trying to jump on you, man...looks like two quick posts came in before I was finshed composing mine!

Oh well...

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maybe it's so they know how much better the conroe is than the A64... yes, everyone knows it's superior clock for clock, but if we (the community as a whole) can say a conroe at 2.4ghz = a toledo at 2.9 or 3ghz, we can say it is xx% faster. isn't that the whole point of making comparisons?
Exactly

The only reason I even posted sciencemark with my 170 @ 2.9GHz is because I had already done this test ages ago and wanted to show Conroe's superior performance, I did'nt set my 170 back to 2.4GHz because for one I just could'nt be bothered and secondly anyone with half a brain could extrapolate the performance clock to clock

This AMD v Intel fanboy/girl talk is just soooooo childish and is not giving XS the respect it and the members deserve
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Old 04-10-2006, 03:05 AM   #839
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This Conroe is just an A1 ES CPU... There are newer stepping already available...
Victor, can you plz run HWiNFO32 (http://www.hwinfo.com) to check the machine?
It should support Conroe and its thermal sensor too...

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Old 04-10-2006, 04:19 AM   #840
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This Conroe is just an A1 ES CPU... There are newer stepping already available...
Victor, can you plz run HWiNFO32 (http://www.hwinfo.com) to check the machine?
It should support Conroe and its thermal sensor too...
where did you find A1 stepping?
my friend told me it's an B0 stepping.

A1 stepping cannot be used since lots of bugs
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Old 04-10-2006, 04:28 AM   #841
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where did you find A1 stepping?
my friend told me it's an B0 stepping.

A1 stepping cannot be used since lots of bugs
Trust me this one is A1...

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Old 04-10-2006, 05:41 AM   #842
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Hi Victor

Update your Everest Systemanalyse 2.80.559 Beta :

http://www.computerbase.de/downloads...lyse/?url=6170

and look A1 or B0 ?

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Trust me this one is A1...
And u know this because ... ?
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If you look at the CPUZ screenshots is says the stepping is 1. I don't know a lot about reading the steppings from software but it seems more likely to be an A1 to me.
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If you look at the CPUZ screenshots is says the stepping is 1. I don't know a lot about reading the steppings from software but it seems more likely to be an A1 to me.
you see the 1 , but what 1 ? maybe B1 !
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And u know this because ... ?
Damn, because... I know. Can't tell more . Stop speculating
Don't expect Everest to give you accurate result in this matter (Fiery consults this with me).
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If you look at the CPUZ screenshots is says the stepping is 1. I don't know a lot about reading the steppings from software but it seems more likely to be an A1 to me.
Don't search for any scheme in assigning CPU Stepping numbers in CPUID - it's fully in hands of CPU vendors. If they decide Stepping = 1 to be C5/C6, then it's C5/C6
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The only reason I even posted sciencemark with my 170 @ 2.9GHz is because I had already done this test ages ago and wanted to show Conroe's superior performance, I did'nt set my 170 back to 2.4GHz because for one I just could'nt be bothered and secondly anyone with half a brain could extrapolate the performance clock to clock
Only to clarify. Have you noticed that Conroe 2.4 score with SM 2.0 *official* version is 1308 (neck to neck with X2 2.4)? and that the other score -with enormous moldyn score- is with *unofficial* and *special optimized binaries for Intel CPUs* made by redpriest?
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