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  1. 01-28-2006, 09:52 PM #26
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    I was told to use this silicone/silicate oil: Fluisil S 55 K; Butylpolysilicat. This oil is approved in 3 stage cascades with R14. But no HVAC shop here in Austria knows this oil. So I don't know where to get it.
    One litre of it costs about 250€.
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  2. 01-28-2006, 09:54 PM #27
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    crasy price :/
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    You could prob put two oil seperators in series, that may help.
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  4. 01-28-2006, 10:30 PM #29
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    Yes that might be an option.
    Here are some pics of the brazed and insulated plate heatexchangers. Tomorrow they get an armaflex layer.















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  5. 01-28-2006, 10:39 PM #30
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    PM chilly for advice
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  6. 01-29-2006, 12:53 AM #31
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    the plate hxs look very funny with all the k-type probes.
    it´s time to mark the probes to be in the know

    is it necessary to solder the tubes and the hx with silver rod?
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  7. 01-29-2006, 01:35 AM #32
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    I don't think that the cu/phospor rods stick to the stainless steel, so I would say yes you need silver rods.
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    I think those henry oil seps use the very low gas speed to seperate the oil from the gas. If I had a go with r14 I would make my own oil sep with a real filter inside. like this: http://www.overcooling.nl/images/IMG_0487.jpg
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  9. 01-29-2006, 02:12 AM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by cold_ice
    I was told to use this silicone/silicate oil: Fluisil S 55 K; Butylpolysilicat. This oil is approved in 3 stage cascades with R14. But no HVAC shop here in Austria knows this oil. So I don't know where to get it.
    One litre of it costs about 250€.
    here is what i found about this oil
    http://www.ahlsell.dk/Download/Knowl...sil%20S55K.pdf


    i was told from my HVAC shop to go talk with the chemical department of shell (petrol company) to help me find what oil i need.
    if this is your first night in xtremesystems,
    you have to overclock.
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  10. 01-29-2006, 07:57 AM #35
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    Can you contact me if you have more info on the oil esdee?

    I will try the Henry first, and if it doesn't work I'll look for another, or I build one myself. Thx for giving me ideas.
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  11. 01-29-2006, 09:40 AM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by cold_ice
    Can you contact me if you have more info on the oil esdee?

    I will try the Henry first, and if it doesn't work I'll look for another, or I build one myself. Thx for giving me ideas.
    it's quite expensive, but Danfoss OUB1 works great for my cascade... i m told by many HVAC shops it's the best i can get. works great for my ethylane cascade, although i don't know if anything will change with R14.

    ill contact you if i find something interesting.
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  12. 01-29-2006, 04:00 PM #37
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    Man do u need a slave in the house? payment will be seeng the beast in action! I may even cross the border ilegaly to see this toy in action! lol
    good luck
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  13. 01-29-2006, 04:16 PM #38
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    Damn nice looking. How much did the plate HX cost you ?
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  14. 01-30-2006, 12:23 AM #39
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    They cost about 50€
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  15. 01-30-2006, 06:06 AM #40
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    Wow mate, this is one monster project! Can't wait to see the final results. Good luck with the R14 and oil seperators.
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  16. 01-30-2006, 06:39 AM #41
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    Succes cold_ice... prolly another great project from you
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    Quote Originally Posted by cold_ice
    They cost about 50€
    wow, I should really move to Austria
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  18. 01-30-2006, 11:37 AM #43
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    The real refrigerant plate HX from SWEP cost 150€ here, mine are not from SWEP but they are rated for -200° and for 30bar. So they should be good for a cascade.
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    Wow... looking awesome.
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  20. 01-30-2006, 08:21 PM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by cold_ice
    The real refrigerant plate HX from SWEP cost 150€ here, mine are not from SWEP but they are rated for -200° and for 30bar. So they should be good for a cascade.
    really nice price and smalll size!!! waiting for temps
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  21. 01-31-2006, 12:13 AM #46
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    is this the 1st or 2nd 4 stage on the board? I think chilly tried one awhile back with an argon 4th stage. Well good on ya for trying it!

    I say just troubleshoot 1 stage at a time.. but thats in an ideal world and it always ends up being difficult to tune
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  22. 01-31-2006, 01:50 PM #47
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    I don't know if this is the first 4 stage.
    I will have some time to work at the weekend, during the week im busy.
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    - this must be a new weapon for WW III...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
    - this must be a new weapon for WW III...............

    Actually I think you'll find it's for the next cold war...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeltedDuron
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