$6000.00 Budget for Cooling

[jinu117]

With $6000 budget, I am sure you could run submersed system to avoid any condensation... I would start worrying about electricity bill though. It will be noticeble with 3-4 compressor running all the time... and additinonal air conditioning inside room to keep temperature of room in reasonable range

[Dumo]

With $6000 budget, I am sure you could run submersed system to avoid any condensation... I would start worrying about electricity bill though. It will be noticeble with 3-4 compressor running all the time... and additinonal air conditioning inside room to keep temperature of room in reasonable range

My electric bill kinda spiked a little last summer...1 cascade and 2 a/c

[gkiing]

You should deal with chilly1 or pcice(no longer on here, he's on the xtremeresources.com forums)

I would say that a two four stagers; one for cpu and one for gpu could be had for that.

But instead of that, you should try and find a used air liquefaction plant and have it continually cooled by liquid air.. that would be neat.

I've been wanting to do that for a long time, but a 220psi in-->2000+psi out compressor is needed for the joule-thompson effect to be able to liquify air, and their really expensive.

[Theo404]

What sort of CPU you thinking your going to be able to run this -100 loaded monster on??? I dont think that a latest generation (90nm) AMD cpu exists that doesnt have the cold bug below -90 or so....I may be wrong.

I think you'd be happier (as you said "24/7 yes") with the best single stage unit money can buy, talk to chilly for one, or maybe a 2 stage at around -80. I just dont think you want a 'sport utility sytem' I think you want the best cooling you can get, but for a 24/7 use PC....so ridicules 4 stage electricty eating -100+ units are going to be a headache for you.......

Please disregard what I say at will.

[gclg2000]

Also realize....that the fine tuning of these things is not easy...you need to have some knowledge of HVAC stuff to be able to control and maintain this stuff....

If your wanting something super exotic never seen before, then chilly i'm sure could build you 2 nice dual head units....or you could get 3 seperate single compressor loops and be happy with -50 celsius on each CPU/GPU.

[star882]

Better idea: buy parts for a SMP machine and buy a large single stage made for multiple CPUs.
It'll work better than a single CPU cooled by a cascade. I actually got to use one of those SMP machines and it's really fast!

[epion2985]

smp?

I naver took an amd under 0, how bad are the cold bug issues?

[hatemi]

from what I have heard of two seperate FX57 CPUs is that the first was able to run 3500MHz with DI but it wasnt even stable enough to do any benching with cascade...The second one dies everytime it gets under -48c....

[star882]

smp?

Just a fancy way to say multiple CPU chips.

[epion2985]

oh you mean symmetric multiprocessing, I am not to fast with abriviations, sometimes I see USA and think "wonder what that stands for...", I should add I live in usa lol

hope the M2 socket chips will handle cold better

[`SippY]

6,000 is totally overkill, i would think 2,000 would be fine

[epion2985]

depends on what you want, for some situations $10,000 is too little. He just needs to consider 5 factors.

how much money he wants to spend on it
how much space it can take up
how cold he wants to run all this heat sources
how much he wants to pay for his electricity bill
how much noise he can take

If it can take up a whole room, and he wants to run everything under -200C under load and doesnt care about noise build or electricity cost well in that case 6000 isnt overkill at all its even easier then, just use industrial grade equipment stick a few 50 ton units in his house and call it a day

sure you'll hear his setup from 3 blocks away and he will need to run a few disel electrical generators in the basement feeding them @ 50 galons per hour. He'll have to install some smoke chimnies. I hope he isnt close to an airport they might complain. His neighbours might compain so he should probbably relocate to the industrial part of the town.

[kmhtkmhtkmht]

money isn't an issue
space isn't an issue
I like things cold
electricity is cheap
I can't take noise ( I hate the 120mm fans in my PC right now and they are just stock 2000 rpm ones, but the Mach 2 GT I have now is dead quiet and lovely)

[Comp-Freak]

6000 is a nice budget. Talk with chilly and I'm sure he can tell you what he can build for what price. Maybe it'll get cheaper (normal cascade), but maybe he can build you an insane unit for 6000. Just talk with chilly or an other builder.

[jinu117]

money isn't an issue
space isn't an issue
I like things cold
electricity is cheap
I can't take noise ( I hate the 120mm fans in my PC right now and they are just stock 2000 rpm ones, but the Mach 2 GT I have now is dead quiet and lovely)

Unless you plan to get massively big condensers that can run the fan at very low speed, anything other than single stage is outta question if you have problem with 2000 RPM 120mm Fan. (about Panaflo M1A in full blast..)

[gkiing]

Put the cascade in another room and have a really long suction hose. LOL

[M.Beier]

contact Tom Holck, but I think 6000$ is a bit to low, but he makes the most extreme cascades, however I dont know if he sells... - But, they've been rated at 25-50.000 DKK..

[alexio]

Try to get in contact with PCICE. He makes great things for cheap but he's banned on XS.

[gclg2000]

Give us some more details of what you want to do? Are you looking for one giant bad ass system? or something more cheaper and basic...?

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

sounds like the perfect target for a dualhead -80C loaded autocascade...

[kmhtkmhtkmht]

Big, Bad and Pretty.

[jinu117]

Try to get in contact with PCICE. He makes great things for cheap but he's banned on XS.

I can't say that is true about his sense of quietness. If 110CFM -120CFM 120mm fan is considered quiet... I dunno.

[kmhtkmhtkmht]

Well, I've made my mind up finally with the chip I will be using and I will be buying the AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ in January - single core chips are over, and realistically, I don't "game" that much as I get a headache from FPS games. I am sure that the dual core chip with the stock setting of 2.6GHz can reach 3.6 on a good day : D

[Sneil]

be sure to see what decibals this thing'll throw off, im guessing it'll be awfully loud...

[SustaiN]

contact Tom Holck, but I think 6000$ is a bit to low, but he makes the most extreme cascades, however I dont know if he sells... - But, they've been rated at 25-50.000 DKK..

Yeah he had a thread at a danish forum. He wanted to sell his "prototype cascade". I don't know if he sold it but I remember the price was about 4000$. It did about -110 unloaded. It was in very good condition and was built together with some pro engineers. But I still think the right thing to do is to pm chilly1 and see what he can do for ya