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  1. 12-28-2004, 09:34 PM #26
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    This will pwn it. Burn will know his daddy :p There is a link above that compares this prog to all the other "burn-in / stability" progs out there.
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    The US is the only country that doesn't use [nuclear weapons] to terrorize other countries. The US is based on Christian values, unlike any other country in the world. Granted we are straying from our Christian heritage, but we still have a freedom aimed diplomatic stance.
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  2. 12-28-2004, 11:21 PM #27
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    I highly doubt it. I'll run some tests at 2.2v I'm 100% sure it will maul this other program.

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  3. 12-28-2004, 11:44 PM #28
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    Don't doubt it.. try it
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    Quote Originally Posted by CompGeek
    The US is the only country that doesn't use [nuclear weapons] to terrorize other countries. The US is based on Christian values, unlike any other country in the world. Granted we are straying from our Christian heritage, but we still have a freedom aimed diplomatic stance.
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  4. 12-29-2004, 03:41 AM #29
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    hmm s&m reallly messes up my multitasking progs.

    for example, i watch tv+prime95, to keep my vapo warm.

    but when i use s&m, i get no signal from my tv card. it hogs too much cpu power. lol

    Stick a Vapo on it
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  5. 12-29-2004, 05:04 AM #30
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    just tested it. compared to prime i got about a 1°C difference, which is strange, but my mosfet sure took a beating. they went up to new heights. ~39°C, where before they did 34-35°C in prime or any other situation. anyway my memory craps out and throws in the towel before i could do a full run, but whoa... hot stuff
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  6. 12-29-2004, 04:28 PM #31
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    How come your mosfets are running so cool in the 1st place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CompGeek
    The US is the only country that doesn't use [nuclear weapons] to terrorize other countries. The US is based on Christian values, unlike any other country in the world. Granted we are straying from our Christian heritage, but we still have a freedom aimed diplomatic stance.
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  7. 12-29-2004, 04:52 PM #32
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    Thought I should add, the maximum amount of heat a cpu can put out is always 88% of its theoretical maximum.
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  8. 12-30-2004, 12:02 AM #33
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    A general statement like that can never be true, sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by CompGeek
    The US is the only country that doesn't use [nuclear weapons] to terrorize other countries. The US is based on Christian values, unlike any other country in the world. Granted we are straying from our Christian heritage, but we still have a freedom aimed diplomatic stance.
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  9. 12-30-2004, 12:30 AM #34
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    Well, he's right, but 88% is too general.

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  10. 01-01-2005, 11:58 AM #35
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    And how do you think is the theoretical maximum calculated, btw Intel shows it's TDP as 75% of the actual max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CompGeek
    The US is the only country that doesn't use [nuclear weapons] to terrorize other countries. The US is based on Christian values, unlike any other country in the world. Granted we are straying from our Christian heritage, but we still have a freedom aimed diplomatic stance.
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  11. 01-01-2005, 12:37 PM #36
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    http://www.benchtest.com/calc.html

    It may be different for different chips.
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  12. 01-02-2005, 12:16 AM #37
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    Burned me up

    48*C @ 1.95v
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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
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    How come your mosfets are running so cool in the 1st place?
    drilled / cut up a former cpu-heatsink, put some tim (actually pads) on all the spots where it touches a chip and then to top it off put a 80mm fan above it all
    i used to think the mosfet sensor displays the coretemp and vice versa, but no way, the temps change so fast on the cpu sensor... from idle (with disconnect enabled) to full load...2 seconds max - and you can see the temp shooting up...

    first time i did use that custom mosfet-sink, i didn't pack a fan... didn't check the temps for a while.. all of a sudden 65°C and rising.. whoops... so i put a fan above and all was well...
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  14. 01-03-2005, 03:10 PM #39
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    Well, 65C is good. They go close or even more than 100C without sinks.

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    BTW, if you wanna screw your MOSFETs try the "Power Supply" mode If I run that, CPU voltage becomes MORE unstable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CompGeek
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  15. 01-06-2005, 10:27 PM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by CompGeek
    The US is the only country that doesn't use [nuclear weapons] to terrorize other countries. The US is based on Christian values, unlike any other country in the world. Granted we are straying from our Christian heritage, but we still have a freedom aimed diplomatic stance.
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    S&m got my cpu 2c higher than k7burn. 4c over prime95.
    I typically run p95 all day, i joined gimps. So kicked on S&m while the cpu was already hot, same for k7burn. YMMV.
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  17. 01-07-2005, 07:01 PM #42
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    This is all very interesting.....because running S&M just how it has been described does not increase my temps anymore then running two copies of Prime95's torture test for a few hours does.....
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    this tihng made my thought stable computer freeze, it reported no errors...just computer freezed when I was typing "So far my compuer seems sta-" lol I saw a new high for my PWM temp...it was something like 62degrees...CPU went up to 'round 54 before it stopped so...this board seems to read 2degrees lower than my old ASUS.

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  19. 01-07-2005, 07:31 PM #44
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    Seems like this software brings out all the temperature-related issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by CompGeek
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    yeah and this brings up another issue as well. If this is the only software that stresses your computer this much...then whats the point? Its like this mem test thing someone did...stress one section of the memory more than anything ever will. Prime95 always brings out the highest temps out of all the rest of the things I do...then this program shows up. I mean this might be nice, but then again if this is the only program that stresses the processor this much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjcom
    yeah and this brings up another issue as well. If this is the only software that stresses your computer this much...then whats the point? Its like this mem test thing someone did...stress one section of the memory more than anything ever will. Prime95 always brings out the highest temps out of all the rest of the things I do...then this program shows up. I mean this might be nice, but then again if this is the only program that stresses the processor this much...

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    I understand where you're coming from....but it's moreso about creating or using a higher standard to "judge" our systems by so that we KNOW everything else will be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjcom
    yeah and this brings up another issue as well. If this is the only software that stresses your computer this much...then whats the point? Its like this mem test thing someone did...stress one section of the memory more than anything ever will. Prime95 always brings out the highest temps out of all the rest of the things I do...then this program shows up. I mean this might be nice, but then again if this is the only program that stresses the processor this much...

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    now now... no need to go crazy and buy a G5 and cheer for Microsoft....

    Now, whenever you need to know if someone's overclock is stable, you can ask if it is S&M stable...
    afterall, if all you do all day is surf the web, and you have major overclock, then its all good and bliss, until you decide to do anything serious. You know its all fun and games until you overclock too much and have stability problems.

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    good point, you know this could bring 'bout a nice discussion on how XS users feel about stablity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjcom
    good point, you know this could bring 'bout a nice discussion on how XS users feel about stablity...

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    Yes, but the fact that this program is still kinda the "new kid on the block" isn't going to help it out in the "discussion".....cus everyone lives and dies by Prime.
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    Well I have yet to have machine that is prime 95 stable and fail on something else (granted my PSU was up to snuff at the time).
    Prime 95 still will hold me for my stability test for 24/7. But I found a wonderful use for this S&M. In fact when we were live charging the Mach II, we used this. Gets to critical point faster than anything I know and will be perfect way to get good charge on a system where load capacity is so high it would otherwise take hours to find the temperature settling with baker evap FYI, this brings up my evap temp for another 7-10c vs prime 95 when running 1.95v about 3ghz. Good stuff indeed.
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