Haswell: First Benchmark Performance Results

[hersounds]

It's not a full review yet, but the guys from the Russian OCLab.ru website managed to get the first testing results from the upcoming Intel Haswell architecture. They put the CPU through four popular benchmarks for overclockers: SuperPI 1M, SuperPI 32M, PiFast, Wprime 32M and Wprime 1024M. The CPU used was a Intel Haswell B0 stepping clocked at 2.8GHz and they compared it to an Ivy Bridge clocked at 2.8GHz. The OCLab.ru benchmark results:

Super PI 32M
Haswell: 10 minutes 30 seconds
Ivy Bridge: 10 minutes 51 seconds
Super PI 1M
Haswell: 14,1 seconds
Ivy Bridge: 13,1 seconds
PiFast
Haswell: 24,1 seconds
Ivy Bridge: 25,7 seconds
Wprime 32M
Haswell: 23,7 seconds
Ivy Bridge: 25,7 seconds
Wprime 1024M
Haswell: 7 minutes 10 seconds
Ivy Bridge: 7 minutes 11 seconds

Of course we were unable to verify if the presented performance results are indeed correct and to what extend the BIOS was optimised for performance. Given the odd results for the SuperPI 1M benchmark, it might be possible that the BIOS is not ready yet (or that the results were mixed up). As always, we have to be careful with leaked information you can find on the internet - pagehits and views are ruling this world - but given that the number One of the HWBOT Pro OC League definitely has a solid amount of contacts in the industry (just google a bit and you'll find out) we consider this leak to be plausible at least. In any case, if true, these results are nothing more than a first indication of the Haswell performance level - we are eagerly waiting for the first information about the overclocking capabilities to leak out.





Perhaps Overclock + better IMC make Haswell a good choice...what do you think guys?

source: http://hwbot.org/newsflash/1907_ocla...rmance_results

[vitchilo]

0.3%-7.8% difference at same clock, pretty good. What will really show the Haswell perf is apps with AVX2 turned on.

Thing is, Ivy-Bridge-Ep will come with more cores... so I would rather go with a 15 cores Ivy-bridge-EP than a 4 cores Haswell no matter how high it goes.

Now if they could do a 15 cores Haswell CPU with no freaking integrated GPU, that would be nice.

[chispy]

Thanks for the info hersounds , taken with a spoon of salt obviously , we need more info and leaks in order to acurately judge the performance.

[paulbagz]

0.3%-7.8% difference at same clock, pretty good. What will really show the Haswell perf is apps with AVX2 turned on.

Thing is, Ivy-Bridge-Ep will come with more cores... so I would rather go with a 15 cores Ivy-bridge-EP than a 4 cores Haswell no matter how high it goes.

Now if they could do a 15 cores Haswell CPU with no freaking integrated GPU, that would be nice.

Thought that anything above 6 cores for IB-E hasn't been confirmed yet (on a consumer level CPU/chipset)?

-PB

[zanzabar]

0.3%-7.8% difference at same clock, pretty good. What will really show the Haswell perf is apps with AVX2 turned on.

Thing is, Ivy-Bridge-Ep will come with more cores... so I would rather go with a 15 cores Ivy-bridge-EP than a 4 cores Haswell no matter how high it goes.

Now if they could do a 15 cores Haswell CPU with no freaking integrated GPU, that would be nice.

unless you are crunching that sounds terrible since the single thread on a retail locked 15core would be really low. if it stays 4v6 and the IB is faster than the IB-e per core like with the SB and SB-e i would take the 4core 1150 chip.

[aussie-revhead]

unl if it stays 4v6 and the IB is faster than the IB-e per core like with the SB and SB-e i would take the 4core 1150 chip.

Depends what you are using it for mate, I will be buying a Haswell only to fill in the time while waiting for Ivy-E because it will kick ass in 3D11 and Vantage, and unless your chasing hwbot points then those will be the benchmarks you will run. (Im not sure about Heaven and AllBench but I bet Ivy-E will win there too). The more gpus you have then the bigger advantage Ivy-E will have too, Haswell should be better than Ivy, its the percentages that we will have to wait to see.

Edit: Having said all that, Im not trying to take anything away from Haswell and I eagerly await its launch to run out and buy one.

[R101]

Do we know default clocks for Haswell?

[haylui]

Wprime 32M
Haswell: 23,7 seconds
Ivy Bridge: 25,7 seconds

hm...is it for real? my Phenom II x3 720BE 2800MHz scores 19.613 sec (wprime ver 2.09)
edit:

running a wprime v1.55 32M now, for 52.394 sec...

[bamtan2]

if the per-clock speed is the same as ivy bridge, haswell is still faster than ivy bridge because it will clock faster, and overclock better. even the intel guy on reddit said haswell will overclock well.

[kromosto]

"haswell will overclock well" can be a good advertising line

intel optimizations. but i want to see the real oc numbers.

[boxleitnerb]

if the per-clock speed is the same as ivy bridge, haswell is still faster than ivy bridge because it will clock faster, and overclock better. even the intel guy on reddit said haswell will overclock well.

It will not clock faster, see the leaked SKUs a while ago.

[aussie-revhead]

It will not clock faster, see the leaked SKUs a while ago.

??? Do you have a link? What does the SKu have to do with how well it overclocks?

[boxleitnerb]

You said it will clock faster, which refers to stock speeds.

3.5GHz max for the 4770K, same as with Ivy and Sandy:
http://chinese.vr-zone.com/43824/int...king-12112012/

[Gramner]

if you see some #intel #Haswell numbers online, I doubt their veracity,since they are nowhere close to what I have in my lab, please ignore

https://twitter.com/FPiednoel/status/296459612377468928

[aussie-revhead]

You said it will clock faster, which refers to stock speeds.

lol are you serious? I think the rest of the world knows what that means, and it has nothing to do with default setting.

[Kallenator]

https://twitter.com/FPiednoel/status/296459612377468928

Good guy Intel Engineer, let's us know about fake numbers!

[boxleitnerb]

lol are you serious? I think the rest of the world knows what that means, and it has nothing to do with default setting.

Yes, I'm serious because I've read carefully:

if the per-clock speed is the same as ivy bridge, haswell is still faster than ivy bridge because it will clock faster, and overclock better.

Aside from that:
It is far from fact that Haswell will indeed overclock better (by that he meant "higher" I suppose). There is not a shred of evidence out there that that is true. I remember having high hopes for Ivy Bridge which got bitterly disappointed. So let's wait before jumping the gun with such statements.

[Ket]

I'll reserve judgment until release, but I'm not expecting anything earth-shattering from Haswell.

[Buckeye]

I'll reserve judgment until release, but I'm not expecting anything earth-shattering from Haswell.

Except power usage and maybe 10%-20% performance increase. I expect Haswell will be really nice for tablets.

Those numbers look made up to me and just an attempt to get traffic, just saying is all.

[ajaidev]

Except power usage and maybe 10%-20% performance increase. I expect Haswell will be really nice for tablets.

Those numbers look made up to me and just an attempt to get traffic, just saying is all.

HSW is suppose to be SFF and UB centric not tablet. Yes we will see HSW based tablets but its not really designed from the ground up to be used in tablets.

[kl0012]

HSW is suppose to be SFF and UB centric not tablet. Yes we will see HSW based tablets but its not really designed from the ground up to be used in tablets.

It is designed with tablets in mind. Why do you think they're designing Haswell SoC with S0ix?

[3lfk1ng]

"haswell will overclock well"

Yes indeed.

Reddit AMA - CPU architect and designer at Intel

[?]Famzilla 87 points 1 month ago (107|17)
As a person who just bought an Ivy-bridged based system, is there anything you can tell me to convince myself to save up for a haswell or broadwell system?

[?]jecb [S] 167 points 1 month ago (194|29)
What do you usually do with your system? If you like to overclock, Haswell is worth it (can't tell you why but read the Haswell Anandtech preview very carefully for buried treasure). On-die graphics is improving quite a bit as well. If you're into energy efficiency or even more graphics, Broadwell. I think the tech community will be very pleasantly surprised with Broadwell. But I'm biased, so we'll just going to have to prove it the hard way.

The AnandTech preview if you care to dig

[Alex-Ro]

Yeap,that's because haswell will have independent clock speed for cores/igpu/l3 cache.Basically the l3 is not tied to cpu speed anymore.Add to that the effective silicon improvements over ivy bridge,imc handling higher memory frequency,different bclk straps and you get the idea...haswell will be extremely fun to play with

[SoF]

<-- wants

[Splave]

memory clocking will be magic :P