Intel Haswell models leaked in official roadmap

[PedantOne]

http://chinese.vr-zone.com/43824/int...king-12112012/

[Brahmzy]

Mr. 4770K, you WILL be mine. Been waiting a LONG time for you. I'll be taking 2 of your little bothers too.

[Olivon]

Core i7 4765T 4C/8T 35W TDP = Yummy ...

[PedantOne]

Core i7 4765T 4C/8T 35W TDP = Yummy ...

2 GHz base clock + locked multi? = No way!

[informal]

It has a turbo of 3Ghz so maybe it can be OCed with maximum Turbo multi like some CPUs on certain boards can be OCed today.
I noticed that top model is lacking V-pro,Vt-d and TXT extensions. It's kinda lame to cut on those on top end part,some folks may need them.

[AKM]

Looks fishy to me, same clocks as Ivy and the straightforward model numbers you'd think Intel would want a bigger change to differentiate tocks (look at Nehalem-Sandy).

[kromosto]

What is the main difference between 3770 and 4770?

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[Iconyu]

Looks fishy to me, same clocks as Ivy and the straightforward model numbers you'd think Intel would want a bigger change to differentiate tocks (look at Nehalem-Sandy).

Haswell is 'wider', and it's the first time Intel has done this since they launched Conroe. Some loads will be a lot faster, some will be more clock dependant, but as we saw when Conroe came about, most loads like higher IPC. If it overclocks like Sandybridge I don't think anyone will complain until Skylark launch 24 months later on 14nm.

[paulbagz]

Finally. Just need some release dates and a new Mini-ITX board and I'm in!

-PB

[hersounds]

yes! yes! 4770K + Maximus 666 evil gene socket 1150 ( not real name mobo but i liked )

[M.Beier]

Woah, that is poor...
Sure IPC might be improved, but the TDP increase, whats up with that?

Wish they would make a nice HTPC/Mediacenter low TDP version, something all the way down to laptop ULV level, just to let us get the great performance of the architecture on a 24*365 hours online price friendly state.

[Kallenator]

Woah, that is poor...
Sure IPC might be improved, but the TDP increase, whats up with that?

Wish they would make a nice HTPC/Mediacenter low TDP version, something all the way down to laptop ULV level, just to let us get the great performance of the architecture on a 24*365 hours online price friendly state.

The IGPU is a lot faster, I think that has a bit to do with it.

[Olivon]

2 GHz base clock + locked multi? = No way!

I was thinking about a little server with good WCG capabilities which is forgotten in a corner. Not talking about OC. I hope Haswell will do good in this domain though.

[zalbard]

Woah, that is poor...
Sure IPC might be improved, but the TDP increase, whats up with that?

Larger IGP, higher IPC CPU cores, same node.

[Kain665]

... why does the 4770 support VT-d and 4770k does not?

[vitchilo]

It's kind of crappy really.

I was expecting at least 6 cores... and a version without integrated graphics (less heat).

[Sparky]

I'm scratching my head on why the K CPU's are gimped on VT-d support

And is the CPU socket change actually a necessity (current chipsets won't handle, etc) or are they just arbitrarily changing the sockets again.

[Mats]

I was thinking about a little server with good WCG capabilities which is forgotten in a corner. Not talking about OC. I hope Haswell will do good in this domain though.

I'd rather buy a 4770K and underclock, price is probably about the same, and you never know when you need that extra performance in the future.

[Klarko]

Is there anything special about these over SB or Ivy on desktop? If so what can we expect? (havent been following Haswell)

[Mats]

I'm scratching my head on why the K CPU's are gimped on VT-d support

I'm guessing it's too much of a threat to LGA2011 when overclocked.

And is the CPU socket change actually a necessity (current chipsets won't handle, etc) or are they just arbitrarily changing the sockets again.

Intel has been using one socket for two CPU generations since Northwood. The big question is if Broadwell will launch as LGA1150 or not.

They said they'll keep on making upgradeable CPU's, but that doesn't tell us if BW is mobile only.
I wouldn't be surprised if Intel skipped the Ticks for desktop. In high end they're just lagging behind mainstream all the time, making potential upgraders pissed off, while mainstream users haven't had a nice Tick upgrade path since Penryn (in theory).

[Sparky]

I'm not too worried about slower upgrades. I tend to wait a while/skip a gen or two (or three) on both CPU and GPU. The budget simply cannot handle constant upgrades.

[Maxforces]

I'm guessing it's too much of a threat to LGA2011 when overclocked.

Intel has been using one socket for two CPU generations since Northwood. theory).

What
s775 p4
S775 conroe but you had to change motherboard anyway
s1366 Bloomfield one generation
s1556 Lynnfield one generation
s1155 Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge--two CPU generations since a very long time without changing the motherboard

[Mats]

What
s775 p4
S775 conroe but you had to change motherboard anyway
s1366 Bloomfield one generation
s1556 Lynnfield one generation
s1155 Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge--two CPU generations since a very long time without changing the motherboard

You missed a few.

478 - Northwood and Prescott

775 - Smithfield(Prescott) and Presler(Cedar Mill)

775 AGAIN - Conroe and Penryn (should've been called 776 or something IMO)

1366 - Bloomfield and Gulftown (NOT mainstream tho, which is what I'm talking about)

1156 - Lynnfield and Clarkdale (hardly an upgrade, since the latter was 2C)

1155 - Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge

[Sparky]

I guess I always considered all the P4s in the same basic basket - crap

[zanzabar]

You missed a few.

478 - Northwood and Prescott

775 - Smithfield(Prescott) and Presler(Cedar Mill)

775 AGAIN - Conroe and Penryn (should've been called 776 or something IMO)

1366 - Bloomfield and Gulftown (NOT mainstream tho, which is what I'm talking about)

1156 - Lynnfield and Clarkdale (hardly an upgrade, since the latter was 2C)

1155 - Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge

i dont know about the 775 needing to be split, they delayed the cpu but had the 975x out for a long time. maybe they could have done a key to make things not fit the conroe up or something like am2+ and am3.

I guess I always considered all the P4s in the same basic basket - crap

they were generally. the pentium D (its dual core part) was OK once the 200MHZ FSB cap was removed with the 975x though.