Plextor PX-128M1S 128GB SSD Reviews

[onethreehill]

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=885
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2510

[lowfat]

WTF is up w/ pcstats results. They really botched those Iometer tests. The results they show the Seagate 2TB drive getting are higher than a lot of SSD's out there. 3191.53 random 4k reads out of a mechanical drive? Riiight.

[noroger]

WTF is up w/ pcstats results. They really botched those Iometer tests. The results they show the Seagate 2TB drive getting are higher than a lot of SSD's out there. 3191.53 random 4k reads out of a mechanical drive? Riiight.

It's a SATA 3 drive, but I don't know if that would influence the results that much.

Anyway, the SSD looks nice, but the performance is crap with no TRIM support. /pass.

[zanzabar]

It's a SATA 3 drive, but I don't know if that would influence the results that much.

Anyway, the SSD looks nice, but the performance is crap with no TRIM support. /pass.

that seagate drive is slower all round to the WD re4 and it gets no ware near that, sata6 only affects throughput and not on a mechanical (atleast not yet)

[Zigosity]

that seagate drive is slower all round to the WD re4 and it gets no ware near that, sata6 only affects throughput and not on a mechanical (atleast not yet)

On an unrelated note, I wish people would stick to one thing to call sata3. I work at a computer store, and I get so many different variations on it >_>. Doesn't help at ALL that sata2 has a 3gbps transfer rate either, so the two get confused all the time, argghhh.

Yeah, /rant. No TRIM = no buyzz : [.

[zanzabar]

On an unrelated note, I wish people would stick to one thing to call sata3. I work at a computer store, and I get so many different variations on it >_>. Doesn't help at ALL that sata2 has a 3gbps transfer rate either, so the two get confused all the time, argghhh.

Yeah, /rant. No TRIM = no buyzz : [.

the official name for sata v3 is sata6, i do feel your pain though. they should have used letters to denote it like wifi

[Zigosity]

the official name for sata v3 is sata6, i do feel your pain though. they should have used letters to denote it

Good to know ^^. Motherboard makers (at least gigabyte and asus) don't seem to use that one on their boxes, though, making it even more confusing for me (and customers -_-). They're big fans of 'Sata 3.0!'

[krille]

the official name for sata v3 is sata6, i do feel your pain though. they should have used letters to denote it like wifi

Actually the official name for SATA Revision 3.x is SATA 6Gb/s.

http://www.sata-io.org/developers/naming_guidelines.asp

[zanzabar]

Actually the official name for SATA Revision 3.x is SATA 6Gb/s.

http://www.sata-io.org/developers/naming_guidelines.asp

so they changed it again since last summer, but for a product it says sata6Gb/s, so sata6 would be the logical trim down

[saaya]

plextor? ssd?

[jmke]

Kingston SSD?
Sandisk SSD?
Seagate SSD?
SuperTalent SSD?
GSkill SSD?
Corsair SSD?
Patriot SSD?

...etc

[yaddam205]

Optical media is dying, Plextor needs to make money somehow.

[zalbard]

Kingston SSD?
Sandisk SSD?
Seagate SSD?
SuperTalent SSD?
GSkill SSD?
Corsair SSD?
Patriot SSD?

...etc

Haha, so funny yet so true.

[saaya]

Kingston SSD?
Sandisk SSD?
Seagate SSD?
SuperTalent SSD?
GSkill SSD?
Corsair SSD?
Patriot SSD?

...etc

yeah iots funny how many companies are selling ssds all the sudden...
but whats so confusing about memory makers selling memory?
just cause its a different chip and a differently shaped pcb? going optical to memory chips is quite a jump

[jmke]

What's so confusing about a storage maker selling SSDs?
Just because it's a different chip and different pcb?

[Manicdan]

What's so confusing about a storage maker selling SSDs?
Just because it's a different chip and different pcb?

i think its just proof that there is a good amount of profit in SSDs and everyones jumping ship. the fact we still dont have budget controllers packed with massive quantity of NAND chips shows they are trying hard to keep the most profit per unit, instead of giving the customer what they want. i mean honestly when a drive is called ultra affordable, but goes for 5$ less than the previous one, it shows their clear intentions trying to keep SSDs as a luxury item.

i would love to see a SSD that has no controller and is managed by the CPU, a slight loss in processing power, for 50$ off the SSD price, hells yea, imagine i put 50$ more into a cpu, upgrade for 2.8 to 3.2ghz or something, and those extra 400mhz (across 4 cores) can easily handle the hard drives, and when its done working with the drive, that extra power sure wont hurt anything else on the PC.

[jmke]

Manicdan, I know that. I find it odd that Saaya doesn't.

[zads]

i think its just proof that there is a good amount of profit in SSDs and everyones jumping ship. the fact we still dont have budget controllers packed with massive quantity of NAND chips shows they are trying hard to keep the most profit per unit, instead of giving the customer what they want. i mean honestly when a drive is called ultra affordable, but goes for 5$ less than the previous one, it shows their clear intentions trying to keep SSDs as a luxury item.

i would love to see a SSD that has no controller and is managed by the CPU, a slight loss in processing power, for 50$ off the SSD price, hells yea, imagine i put 50$ more into a cpu, upgrade for 2.8 to 3.2ghz or something, and those extra 400mhz (across 4 cores) can easily handle the hard drives, and when its done working with the drive, that extra power sure wont hurt anything else on the PC.

You'd be suprised actually..
The price of SSDs are all in the NAND flash, NOT in the controller.
The controllers on the active market cost $4-$25.
A particularly popular controller in the retail segment right now costs between $12-$15.

The rest of the cost is in the NAND chips- and the profit margin isn't 50% or something ridiculous like that.. (except for our military/industrial grade SSDs, but that's a different story )

The most expensive controller on the open market is $100-110, but that one isn't officially available yet (hint hint).

[saaya]

mechanical storage and chip storage is way different tech...
its like boeing selling trains... trains and planes are both mass transportation mediums but are based on completely different tech...

i dont think the plextor brand will work very well for ssds... but maybe thats just me...
for normal users who dont know how diferent storage devices work it might make perfect sense...

[jmke]

i dont think the plextor brand will work very well for ssds...

all them need is one partnership with a large OEM to get the ball rolling;
also all shops who currently have Plextor products can easily adds SSDs to their offerings without having to look for a new vendor or make new deals;
Plextor is already a storage household name for most shops, so adding SSDs to their lineup is not that far-fetched an idea.

+we all know optical media is a dying breed
+plextor doesn't do usb sticks
+if they intend to be still around in 20 yrs, they better invest in next gen products

BluRay is good for consoles/home theater; on PCs no game will be released on BR, and for backup purposes it's just too expensive for offline storage, compared to low cost online HDD storage.

for normal users who dont know how diferent storage devices work it might make perfect sense...

define "normal" ?
as in... majority?

Optical media is dying, Plextor needs to make money somehow.

^^ this Saaya

[saaya]

also all shops who currently have Plextor products...

such as? i havent seen plextor product of any kind in ages... the last i saw was a cd writer...

define "normal" ?
as in... majority?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/normal

conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural.

:P

^^ this Saaya

so? via is dying as well, so what, you wouldnt be surprised seeing via ssds?
come on, you cant tell me that for you its not odd to see brands jump from one product range to another...

hey, if they bring some new tech or good price perf to the market im all in favor of plextor ssds, dont get me wrong! but since plextor has no experience in this kind of tech whatsoever and dont have any prorietary tech to offer better price, perf or price perf or reliability... these ssds will most likely just be rebadged oem drives with an added price for the plextor brand... which means itll most likely fail.

[jmke]

such as? i havent seen plextor product of any kind in ages...

not my problem you're living under a rock
http://www.alternate.de/html/solr/se...or&pageSize=25

so? via is dying as well, so what, you wouldnt be surprised seeing via ssds?

yes VIA is all about storage solutions.

hey, if they bring some new tech or good price perf to the market im all in favor of plextor ssds,

there ya go. the more competition the better.

dont get me wrong! but since plextor has no experience in this kind of tech whatsoever and dont have any prorietary tech to offer better price, perf or price perf or reliability... these ssds will most likely just be rebadged oem drives with an added price for the plextor brand... which means itll most likely fail.

very few SSD selling companies on the market use proprietary tech; so one more/less copy-paste won't break anything. What it might do is drive price down overall, so...

[BrokenWall]

i think its just proof that there is a good amount of profit in SSDs and everyones jumping ship. the fact we still dont have budget controllers packed with massive quantity of NAND chips shows they are trying hard to keep the most profit per unit, instead of giving the customer what they want. i mean honestly when a drive is called ultra affordable, but goes for 5$ less than the previous one, it shows their clear intentions trying to keep SSDs as a luxury item.

i would love to see a SSD that has no controller and is managed by the CPU, a slight loss in processing power, for 50$ off the SSD price, hells yea, imagine i put 50$ more into a cpu, upgrade for 2.8 to 3.2ghz or something, and those extra 400mhz (across 4 cores) can easily handle the hard drives, and when its done working with the drive, that extra power sure wont hurt anything else on the PC.

No what I want is a drive without a controller that I can have a RAID controller handle. Think about if Areca and LSI just made one of their RAID Controllers allow you to connect a NAND device over SAS/SATA that was managed by their 400+MHz Intel IOP processer not to mention the benefits of the 256-512MB Cache of the controller itself. This you would only have to worry about the firmware of the controller supporting TRIM and other technologies.

Think of it as a build your own SSD type of kit.

[situman]

Kingston SSD?
Sandisk SSD?
Seagate SSD?
SuperTalent SSD?
GSkill SSD?
Corsair SSD?
Patriot SSD?

...etc

They all use similar chips and controllers (Indilinx for the most part) and prices have not gone down at all with the relative economy of scale....I smell price fixing or collusion.

[situman]

Plextor = BenQ or some other brand that bought them out. Plextor aint what it use to be. It can no longer charge 60 for a DVD burner when everyone else is charging 20 to 30.