Socket 2011 to use the same mounting holes as lga1366

[cirthix]

Just got a socket R (2011) test board in (not motherboard, just power test board). Good news is that while the socket is physically larger than 1366, the mounting holes for heatsinks are the same .

[TheCarLessDriven]

um, ok.

[Frank M]

What will use it, Sandy Bridge? AFAIK / IIRC, octo-core Nehalem-EX comes
with LGA1566. Having the same mounting holes is nice, but IMO a cooler
(or cooler mounting hw) pales in significance to the cost of a MB and CPU...

[ajaidev]

Sandy Bridge most likely... 2011 is the year of the great fusion battle "Sandy Bridge vs bulldozer" ohh ya and in 2012 world end dang!!!

This is great for people who bought entry/mid end water cooling systems.

[initialised]

Sandy Bridge most likely... 2011 is the year of the great fusion battle "Sandy Bridge vs bulldozer" ohh ya and in 2012 world end dang!!!

This is great for people who bought entry/mid end water cooling systems.

and don't have the ability to drill a few holes in a couple of pieces of metal.

[003]

Cool so everybody who invested with X58 gets the shaft

[Hornet331]

Cool so everybody who invested with X58 gets the shaft

and why? i already got S1366 for nearly a year now and will be another year or so till Socket R is coming.

[saaya]

make sure it stays that way... could be they made the test board 1366 compatible cause thats what you can get heatsinks for atm...
wouldnt be surprised if early 1366 testing gear had 775 mounting holes...

oh and socket 1567 or whatever it is looks funny, its like a square of pins, well 2 L shapes, with no pins in the center... reminded me of socketA and 423, just bigger and and lga socket...

[Helloworld_98]

I thought sandy bridge would be on 1156?

so 2011 must be like the 1366 of sandy bridge.

[ajaidev]

sandy bridge would have been 1155 not 1156, 1156 has no future update planned.

Most likely sandy bridge and its shrunk will use the same socket "Does not make much sense in other case". 1567 will most likely be high end and server oriented just like 1366. So you could have a 6-8 core sandy bridge for high end "1567" and 4-6 core for mid end "1155"

Other than these 1156B and 1156C are also suppose to come "Dont have much info on them tough"

[saaya]

i thought 1155 is xeon and 1156B is coming in q1 2010 and will support igp cpus, and 1156C is VRM12, so no backwards compatibility...
1366 will go vrm12 too and burn all bridges to the past cpu support wise...

[labs23]

Its a good thing for if Intel do that. They gotta realize that aftermarket heatsinks' compatibility plays some role on newer chips/mobos.
Less headaches for early birds.

[RiverRicer]

Quote:Originally Posted by 003
Cool so everybody who invested with X58 gets the shaft

and why? i already got S1366 for nearly a year now and will be another year or so till Socket R is coming.

This is why I just can't get with Intel - M/Bs are too big (and expensive) to drill and hang on keychains!

[cirthix]

I don't think we have to worry about vr12 for a while.

The test board I got has an early vr12 vrm on it for testing.

[haylui]

so Intel encouraging recycle?

[Ozzfest05]

Ok so now we have 3 socket types 1366 1156 and 2011 I hate this crap.

[Hornet331]

Ok so now we have 3 socket types 1366 1156 and 2011 I hate this crap.

I dind't kenw S2011 was already releasd....

[Ozzfest05]

I dont see whats so funny im not saying its released yet you arrogant bastard, im saying Intel is throwing out new socket types like its going out of style.

[zalbard]

I dont see whats so funny im not saying its released yet you arrogant bastard, im saying Intel is throwing out new socket types like its going out of style.

Forced upgrade stuff has always been around. Besides, more pins are physically needed for some newer processors.

[Sailindawg]

Cool so everybody who invested with X58 gets the shaft

Enjoy your x58 board, it will be valid for quite some time. Heck, my paltry Q6600 is till kicking ass at a lowly 3600 MHz. I'm still basically gpu bound with my system, there's no reason to upgrade every Intel processor cycle. It's cool what they are coming out with, but the musical sockets is annoying. Until recently I had a S-423 board still going as a general use pc til it died. That socket was around for ~4 months before Intel rendered it obsolete with Northwood.

Be nice if they stayed with the some socket format for a while, but Intel is essentially competing against itself. AMD is coming back into the game. AMD needs some very clockable cpu's that are similar to what they did with Socket A & 939. Let Intel put another socket out, why be a lemming?

[ajaidev]

Forced upgrade stuff has always been around. Besides, more pins are physically needed for some newer processors.

But i think its more to that. i5's 1156 mobo's are cheap and several mobo makes would be quite unhappy with that. A socket change will force the customer to get a new mobo resulting in profit to the mobo maker. So you have profits coming from 1156 mobo and 1155 mobo.

Ahhh maybe its not so but now-a-days everything seems like a conspiracy to me

[Hornet331]

I dont see whats so funny im not saying its released yet you arrogant bastard, im saying Intel is throwing out new socket types like its going out of style.

Before calling someone a bastard, how about checking the past first.

ConsumerSockets
Slot 1: ~2 years
S370: ~1year
S423: ~1year
S478 ~3years
S775 (pre C2) ~3 years
S775 (post C2) ~2 years (ongoing)
S1156 few months (ongoing)

Server sockets:
Slot2 ~3 years
S603 ~1 year
S604 ~4 years
S771 ~2 years
S1366 ~1year (ongoing)


And thats only for intel.. amd switched socket far more often, due to the earlier introduction of the IMC, which requires a socket switch every time your switching memory or making significant changes to the platform.

[saaya]

amd switched socket far more often

eh wha? socket A was originally competing with socket 370 from intel, then 423, then 478, and even when 775 came out in 2004 socket A was still alive and supported for 1 more year! even after they went imc they kept socket lifetimes very high... only am2 and F were stupid, though you can count am2 and am2+ as one socket just as 775 was seen as 1 socket even though not every 775 cpu works in every 775 board... for amd its actually better cause afaik am2+ cpus and even am3 cpus can work in well designed and maintained am2 boards...

socket A 5 years(!)
socket 940 4 years
socket 754 4 years
socket 939 4 years
socket F 3 years ongoing
socket am2 3 years ongoing
socket F+ 2 years ongoing
socket am2+ 2 years ongoing

[Hornet331]

why are you mixing consumer sockers with server sockets?

also you missing Super Socket 7 and Slot A on amd cosnumer site preaty shortlived once.
Also your caunting whole life time and not to the point where the next socket was introduced (Socket A 2000 -> Socket 754 2003, which makes it 3 years).

[ajaidev]

why are you mixing consumer sockers with server sockets?

also you missing Super Socket 7 and Slot A on amd cosnumer site preaty shortlived once.
Also your caunting whole life time and not to the point where the next socket was introduced (Socket A 2000 -> Socket 754 2003, which makes it 3 years).

kk, lets only do the consumer sockets:-

Super Socket 7 1998
Slot A 1999
Socket A 2000
Socket 745 2003
Socket 939 2004
Socket AM2 2006
Socket AM2+ 2007
Socket AM3 2009

So you have a decrease in the socket changes as you go on. AM2,AM2+ & AM3 are quite similar with each other, if we combine the three its like 4+ years. The 939 had 2 years of life and it was a very capable socket, sad it died so soon. Socket A was another strong one that lasted about 3 years that is a long time still have one laying around.