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[Don_Dan]

Did someone else notice that we lost ~1640 points a.k.a. Vince today?

The team is now down to 8th place in the team rankings.

[bazx]

a new team

http://www.hwbot.org/community/team/KINGPINCOOLING.COM

[TheGoat Eater]

lol - with 2 people they are "Worldwide Rank: #26 of 862" - NICE!

[G.Foyle]

While I understand Vince and Andre perfectly well, that is a big hit to our team. Time to push some more!

[Hondacity]

who else is sponsored on our team?

[TheGoat Eater]

who else is sponsored on our team?

Can you elaborate what you mean by sponsored there ?

[tiborrr]

Fugger :d

[G.Foyle]

Sponsored = benching hardware that is not always my own
or
sponsored = being paid and expected of getting good results?

[BenchZowner]

AFAIK it doesn't have anything to do with being sponsored or not.
Vince mentioned something about a new HWbot team almost a year ago in a PM, and as far as I can tell this is it.

[FlawleZ]

Not really much of a shocker at this point in time. Honestly, I would say XS was lucky to have him aboard as long we did.

[Splave]

imo if you are sponsored you shouldnt be playing for points. go for world records but 99.9% of the people actually have to buy their own and its just not fair to get your ass kissed and roll the competition.

[RomDominance]

I totally agree with Bobby, especially in today's economic climate.

[FlawleZ]

imo if you are sponsored you shouldnt be playing for points. go for world records but 99.9% of the people actually have to buy their own and its just not fair to get your ass kissed and roll the competition.

He has retired in the past already. People didn't want him to stop pushing hardware to the absolute limit then, I see no difference now.

[chew*]

imo if you are sponsored you shouldnt be playing for points. go for world records but 99.9% of the people actually have to buy their own and its just not fair to get your ass kissed and roll the competition.

You seem to forget that 99% of those sponsored did just that on there own pockets for a very long time.......

There is also a huge amount of pressure. The grass is not greener on the other side.

[G.Foyle]

You seem to forget that 99% of those sponsored did just that on there own pockets for a very long time.......

There is also a huge amount of pressure. The grass is not greener on the other side.

Excellent post sir

[TheGoat Eater]

You seem to forget that 99% of those sponsored did just that on there own pockets for a very long time.......

There is also a huge amount of pressure. The grass is not greener on the other side.

+1 - in fact the grass is anxiety inducing on that side

[G H Z]

You seem to forget that 99% of those sponsored did just that on there own pockets for a very long time.......

There is also a huge amount of pressure. The grass is not greener on the other side.

And just to add anyone can do it, Vince didn't get there by sitting on his ass. He is affiliated with companies because he kicked everyones ass when he was playing this game alone

[dinos22]

oh the irony hey chew* heheh

bobby do you think money spending actually stops once you start getting *free* hardware

i hope you dont catch this bug mate cause this is never ending

[chew*]

oh the irony hey chew* heheh

bobby do you think money spending actually stops once you start getting *free* hardware

i hope you dont catch this bug mate cause this is never ending

Heh yah the irony is a bugger.

I think this past month alone I spent a good $400...ram, waterblocks,hard drives ( can never have to many ).

Who wants my bill alone for kneaded rubber eraser in a month?

[Splave]

You seem to forget that 99% of those sponsored did just that on there own pockets for a very long time.......

There is also a huge amount of pressure. The grass is not greener on the other side.

I dont disagree that there is pressure or that I wish I was sponsored. I for one enjoy not having to post "look how great my gigabyte board is" or take binned memory and show "you too can break the ddr3 world record" threads.

So how much money do I have to spend before I get free stuff or paid? How is it a level playing field if anyone is getting any help from any source other than their own pockets? This brings up ES chips as well, on HWbot you have to own the hardware and people posting with ES chips are breaking the rules as intel/AMD are the owners of those chips. This also why they cant be sold legally.

Half the people that have hammered me in this thread have in the past or currently get free stuff etc

PS I dont doubt the skill of any of the top clockers fyi.

[[XC] gomeler]

I dont disagree that there is pressure or that I wish I was sponsored. I for one enjoy not having to post "look how great my gigabyte board is" or take binned memory and show "you too can break the ddr3 world record" threads.

So how much money do I have to spend before I get free stuff or paid? How is it a level playing field if anyone is getting any help from any source other than their own pockets? This brings up ES chips as well, on HWbot you have to own the hardware and people posting with ES chips are breaking the rules as intel/AMD are the owners of those chips. This also why they cant be sold legally.

Half the people that have hammered me in this thread have in the past or currently get free stuff etc

PS I dont doubt the skill of any of the top clockers fyi.

It isn't a matter of spending XXX amount of dollars in order to receive YYY amount of free stuff.. it is about spending enormous amounts of time developing a brand out of your own pocket. Then you move on to the PR departments and hope that all your work is enough for them to warrant chucking a board or video card your way.

I am a college student who makes several hundreds of dollars a month at most. In order to afford my hobby I review hardware on the side making what is the equivalent to less than minimum wage in order to be able to play with nice toys. After dumping in all this time you damn well know I'll be knocking out some hwbot points with a combination of earned and seeded gear in an attempt to acquire more seeded gear. Competitive benching is a business, the moment you realize that doors start to open.

[K404]

Theres different levels of sponsorship. I get company support but not with components for No.1 spots.......

(thats not a moan... I get to do my job with less pressure)

[NaeKuh]

Theres different levels of sponsorship. I get company support but not with components for No.1 spots.......

(thats not a moan... I get to do my job with less pressure)

thats not called sponsoring bro. Thats called being favored.

I get that as well, but when i call something sponsorship is when you paid less then retail or nothing for it.

That is what sponsorship means... they help you in acquiring it. Not wait in line holding your hand.

@ kingpin..

Wish ya the best of luck, but you got a lot of l33t people now against ya. :P

[Charles Wirth]

It is all good, he didnt leave the planet yet so its not like he is gone.

No need to argue about sponsors, we all welcome any support we can get.

[k|ngp|n]

It is all good, he didnt leave the planet yet so its not like he is gone.

No need to argue about sponsors, we all welcome any support we can get.

For sure. Xs is still my number one place, how can it not be..


There is no special reason for this nor does it have anything to do with XS. If I disapointed or let any XS guys down, I'm really sorry for that. I've benched as hard as I could and made HUGE personal sacrifices over last two-three years of my life benching for XS and just benching in general. I have been wanting to form my own COMPETITIVE benching team for a long time now. The eventual goal is worldwide domination, but it may take some time to get there.

Right now the team isn't "open", and to be on it you need to be willing to dedicate time and effort into making the team succesful.
You dont have to be some super duper sponsored guy or a known name to be on the team at all, only have the PROVEN KNOWLEDGE, COMPETENCE, WORK ETHIC and the DRIVE to be able to get it done. I am willing to try and help guys out with cooling HW and other misc. pieces of HW through manuf I work with that need it

As for the sponsored thing that comes up often, yah I have good manuf connections, but I have worked so HARD for so long for those hookups guys. Again, I have made huge personal sacrifices in my life for overclocking that I may or may not regret one day when I look back on all of this
The pressure and stress that comes with the territory has been at times nearly unbearable. People expect things out of you at one point, and any less is just not enough. This goes for any of the guys with "hookups".When manuf gives you a new platform or product, they expect you to not only make it work but set records with it. Any less is failure. Doesn't matter if the bios's suck, components are incompatible, hw needs 100 mods to run right, or the competitors product is flat out better. You have to find a way to make it happen PERIOD or it is failure. It's alot to deal with I'm tellin ya.
I am a big sponsor now as well though..ya know I have given out more $$$ in containers and also spent more money on LN2 developing units and benching than maybe 95% of every overclocker out there has ever spent on HW alone.
There is major ebb & flow that most don't see.