Fan controllers, AQUAERO VS mCubed T-Balancer (updated)

[hchristian]

Aquero with powerbooster upgrade + PowerAmp http://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_...oducts_id=2363

channel 1 (powerboosted): first DDC
channel 2: PowerAmp and behind the second DDC

I read on one of Shoggy's post that dual DDCs will not work due to power draw issues during spin up http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...0&postcount=15.

It's not quite clear whether he meant dual DDCs will not work in channel 1 simultaneously or will not work in any configuration. Nothing was mentioned about the PowerAmp however.

What effect does 10 - 10.5 V (output of PowerAmp) have on DDCs?

[Church]

It's not quite clear whether he meant dual DDCs will not work in channel 1 simultaneously or will not work in any configuration. Nothing was mentioned about the PowerAmp however.
What effect does 10 - 10.5 V (output of PowerAmp) have on DDCs?

Effect of 10-10.5V Amp - you simply can run pump at only 80% of it max speed. Similar to speed4 of D5 vario. But the essence of using those DIY poweramps or eg. mcubed fanamp is that you get your power for pump from another separate power cable as to one feeding aquaero. It's just that voltage is regulated to be same as from aquaero, and rpms of fan or pump are forwarded to aquaero.

[Shoggy]

@hchristian: you can use the aquaero with powerbooster for ONE pumpe. If you want more pumps you can connect one ore more poweramps to a fan channel.

[hchristian]

@hchristian: you can use the aquaero with powerbooster for ONE pumpe. If you want more pumps you can connect one ore more poweramps to a fan channel.

Thanks Shoggy for clearing that up.

So let me sum it up :

Channel 1 : Pump with 12V
Channel 2 + Powerbooster : Pump with 10 V - 10.5 V
Channel 3 : Fan
Channel 4 : Fan

So essentially you are left with 2 channels to control fans with.
How does RPM controlling work when 2 fans are spliced to 1 channel?

[Shoggy]

If you mean poweramp when sying powerbooster, than it is OK

You will only able to monitor one RPM signal when you connect several fans to one channel.

[hchristian]

If you mean poweramp when sying powerbooster, than it is OK

You will only able to monitor one RPM signal when you connect several fans to one channel.

Thanks Shoggy, sure cleared my questions.

Now to consider the International shipping costs for an Aquero

[The Asgard]

In the same boat. Is the AQUAERO the one to go for?

[headala]

Thanks Shoggy, sure cleared my questions.

Now to consider the International shipping costs for an Aquero

Where do you live? I think Bitspower out of Taiwan can also ship AC stuff.

In the same boat. Is the AQUAERO the one to go for?

I have two of them; got my first around 4 1/2 years ago I think and have LOVED it.

[Philwong]

Shoggy, can the Aquaero software be enhanced to include CPU, GPU and other temps for fan speed control?

Phil

[Shoggy]

No, that is not possible. Would also make not much sense for fan control since the internal sensors jump up and down within seconds.

[Philwong]

No, that is not possible. Would also make not much sense for fan control since the internal sensors jump up and down within seconds.

The CPU/GPU temp fluctuation is definitely higher than the coolant but I wouldn't say it's useless in controlling fan speed. I've been using these parameters for watercooling successfully for quite a while.

Phil

[Brodholm]

I also have a quesiton. Can you split a temperature sensor and plug it into 2 aquaeros or is there a way for the other aquaero to read from the first one?

Or must i have 2 sensors.

[headala]

The CPU/GPU temp fluctuation is definitely higher than the coolant but I wouldn't say it's useless in controlling fan speed. I've been using these parameters for watercooling successfully for quite a while.

Phil

This has been debated quite a bit already. If you're cooling the water you base your fan speed by the temperature of the water not the CPU, etc. Trying to run your rad fans by measuring the temp of the cpu is like me setting our AC by the temperature of my wife: she's usually quite hot but the fluctuations will make you crazy!

BTW, I'm going down to Tioman island tomorrow (and then back up to KL); have you ever been there? Also, are there any decent water cooling shops in KL?

[headala]

I also have a quesiton. Can you split a temperature sensor and plug it into 2 aquaeros or is there a way for the other aquaero to read from the first one?

Or must i have 2 sensors.

The temperatures rely on minute fluctuations in resistance (I think), so that definitely would not be possible. You even have to re-calibrate them if you change the length of the cable! Keep in mind though you can put as many water temp sensors in your loop as you want.

I have two Aquaeros and I just divide up their duties: one is for monitoring surface temperatures and logging, the other is for monitoring water temperatures and pump RPM's (for automatic shutdown). It takes a bit of planning ahead but it works. You definitely have to draw it all out and label your cables carefully!

[Brodholm]

The temperatures rely on minute fluctuations in resistance (I think), so that definitely would not be possible. You even have to re-calibrate them if you change the length of the cable! Keep in mind though you can put as many water temp sensors in your loop as you want.

I have two Aquaeros and I just divide up their duties: one is for monitoring surface temperatures and logging, the other is for monitoring water temperatures and pump RPM's (for automatic shutdown). It takes a bit of planning ahead but it works. You definitely have to draw it all out and label your cables carefully!

Thats what i thought. Im thinking of controlling 2 DDC3.2 in a dual EK pump top. And im worried that if the temperatures vary or sensors isnt calibrated the same way i will have one pump pushing the other or one pump speeding up the other one. I don't know if thats really a problem though.

[Church]

Shoggy: see above +1 to many others needing for more power from single aquaero. It's possible in several ways to workarround that limitation, but most of them will stay as 'hacks', not 'solutions'. :/

[Shoggy]

Well, there will never be a solution with that aquaero since it has already reached its technical limits with the powerbooster variant. It is already a wonder that it works this way. Any more power would always lead to a damaged controller.

@hchristian: you can only use the rpm signal of one fan.

[Erdrick1980]

Well.. after reading all this awesome information, i ended up buying the Aquaero Fan controller. Can't wait till it gets here!! Can't believe i bought that Aerocool Touch 1000..

[Shoggy]

Good boy