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    TJ07 help please

    Anyone have a DFI LT X48-T2R, in a TJ07?

    If you do or can figure out how much distance will be from the top of the motherboard to the top of the case I'd appreciate it.

    Planning on fitting a triple radiator to the roof of the tj07 need to know what radiator I can fit.

    Also anyone know some great thin radiators? Is the Black Ice GT Stealth 360
    any good, Can't find any reviews about it.

    Thanks guys

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    You do know that the top of the case only has a hole for 2 x 120mm right? Or are you going to put two radboxes on the outside and mount the 360 there?

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    +- 5 cm

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    Hi there is not a lot of space but u put tripple rad plus fans and u will have 5mm space in between fans and mobo.
    Look on this picture this is my old rig no fans but trust me u will have enough space to work with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quatrix View Post
    Anyone have a DFI LT X48-T2R, in a TJ07?

    If you do or can figure out how much distance will be from the top of the motherboard to the top of the case I'd appreciate it.

    Planning on fitting a triple radiator to the roof of the tj07 need to know what radiator I can fit.
    Quatrix, do a search in the Liquid Cooling subforum. You'll find many TJ07 cases with top mounted radiators.

    Also anyone know some great thin radiators? Is the Black Ice GT Stealth 360
    any good, Can't find any reviews about it.
    I'm using HW Labs Black Ice Pro II in my case. It's a thin radiator (29 mm IIRC) that works very well for me. I think you should stay away from the GTS model family because of flow restriction. Here's a interesting thread that discusses the difference between BIP/GTS/GTX:

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=154413
    Last edited by 0xdeadbeef; 07-29-2008 at 07:25 AM.

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    Damn those compression fittings look so good!

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    The TJ07 will give you MAX 55mm total clearance above MB upper mofsets (the rad will touch any mosfest cooler at this thickness). This means you can use a radiator with a maximum thickness of 30mm along with 25mm fans. This includes placing the fans above the radiator to take advantage of fitting them into the 2mm recess of the mesh in the top of the case. If you put the rad on top, you lose that recess.

    This, of course, changes if you offest the radiator from center so it can hang down in front of the mofset and capacitors on the MB, but I don't suggest doing that.

    The BI stealths and xflows will work, so will the swiftech mcr series of rads. Both of these are fine radiators for limited loops. Like previously said, you can't use a tripple rad up there without modding the case. A double will be enough for your Mofsets + NB/SB, but I would be wary about using them for any quad core CPU. If you do mod and go tripple, then yes, any of the thinner rads will still be enough for any cpu or your chipsets. You probably will not want to put more than one primary heat source on those thin rads though.

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    Yes they are great. I love them, shame this rig belongs to my sister right now hehe.

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    Hijack a good double rad (with decent fans) should be more then enough for a quad + nb/sb/mosfets (I wouldn't put a quad and a gpu on a double but ...), if you look at (http://www.martinsliquidlab.com/XSPC...or-Review.html) even teh xspc (which I think is below the swiftech and some others) could handle an overclocked quad + nb/sb with medium speeds yates at 10C delta T, or lower delta with higher speed fans (though there is no room for 38mm on the top of that case so ...). A triple would be better but a double should be ok.
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    Thanks to everyone for their input.

    Yes the case will be modded

    Quote Originally Posted by Hijack View Post
    This means you can use a radiator with a maximum thickness of 30mm along with 25mm fans...

    The BI stealths and xflows will work, so will the swiftech mcr series of rads.
    Isn't the swiftech MCR 320 34mm thick making it too big?

    HWlabs confuse me I have no clue what they consider there best rads
    Here is a list of the rads they provide that are under 30mm thick

    Black ice Pro III
    Black ice Pro III Xflow

    Black ice GT Stealth 360
    Black ice GT Stealth 360 Xflow

    I'm guessing the Xflow versions are better?

    But what is better GT Stealth or Pro, and buy how much?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quatrix View Post
    Isn't the swiftech MCR 320 34mm thick making it too big?
    I'm pretty sure that is true. I might work with 120x20mm fans like this though. Don't think 25mm fans is going to work with a Swiftech rad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quatrix View Post
    HWlabs confuse me I have no clue what they consider there best rads
    Here is a list of the rads they provide that are under 30mm thick

    Black ice Pro III
    Black ice Pro III Xflow

    Black ice GT Stealth 360
    Black ice GT Stealth 360 Xflow

    I'm guessing the Xflow versions are better?

    But what is better GT Stealth or Pro, and buy how much?
    I've learned that HW Labs GTS and BIX radiators are good radiators for high speed fans, but they are alse very flow restrictive. That's why I decided for the BIP in my rig. It's still designed for high speed fans but with less flow restriction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quatrix View Post
    Thanks to everyone for their input.

    Yes the case will be modded



    Isn't the swiftech MCR 320 34mm thick making it too big?

    HWlabs confuse me I have no clue what they consider there best rads
    Here is a list of the rads they provide that are under 30mm thick

    Black ice Pro III
    Black ice Pro III Xflow

    Black ice GT Stealth 360
    Black ice GT Stealth 360 Xflow

    I'm guessing the Xflow versions are better?

    But what is better GT Stealth or Pro, and buy how much?

    Thanks
    it's ok dude .. you wont have to worry bout 120x25mm fans not fitting with rad... see here
    someone even placed mcr320 on top .. and it fits






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    Thanks guys, Serp do you know what motherboards they are?

    Also has anyone done any sort of passive testing for radiators? No fans at all? I doubt unless you get a huge radiator would it passively beat a 360 with fans
    Would be interesting though

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    sry .. i've no idea .. cant see from the pics ...
    you could check his worklog here

    also .. our Ladderman's TJ07, he dont seems to be in xtremesystems for very very long time
    also .. this is the crazy 120.3+120.2 in TJ07 worklog
    also .. this is a unique project
    this too
    this is one hellva paint job .. very original

    this one is the Silverstone Showcase thread

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    Thanks again Serp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    it's ok dude .. you wont have to worry bout 120x25mm fans not fitting with rad... see here
    someone even placed mcr320 on top .. and it fits





    Sorry, but these two cases are not good examples of internal installation of radiators. Both cases have modified radiator grills on the top and the fans are raised higher than the case itself. Here's the worklog for the last rig that shows the customization. I'm just saying that if you want to install the rads without external modification you better use an HW Labs radiator.

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    Oh well if it doesnt fit I can always sell it on or maybe ask for a refund from where I bought it from

    Thanks for letting me know though

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    or you could download sketchup and the TJ07 model from here http://scc.jezmckean.com/cat/11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quatrix View Post
    Thanks to everyone for their input.

    Yes the case will be modded



    Isn't the swiftech MCR 320 34mm thick making it too big?

    HWlabs confuse me I have no clue what they consider there best rads
    Here is a list of the rads they provide that are under 30mm thick

    Black ice Pro III
    Black ice Pro III Xflow

    Black ice GT Stealth 360
    Black ice GT Stealth 360 Xflow

    I'm guessing the Xflow versions are better?

    But what is better GT Stealth or Pro, and buy how much?

    Thanks

    Yes, you are right, the MCR 320 is 34 mm. My bad. For some reason I always thought the MCR series was 29mm thick like my BI stealth.

    As for which is better, dunno. I do know the xflow is a single pass radiator which would in all logical cases, make it less effective than a dual pass rad.

    In any case, I don't think it really matters what MB you have does it? The ATX form factors are all standardized, so with the exception of tiny variances in MOFSET and some capacitor positions, I think they're all gonna be the same as far as what will allow you to put the rad up top.
    Last edited by Hijack; 07-30-2008 at 07:16 AM.

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    Take a look at this TJ07 top modding service from Chilled PC. Just wanna give you an idea what you can do with your baby...


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