It is now being voiced about that Vmem beyond 2.2 volts when using phenom processor can possibly damage the internal memory controller and what that may lead to is yet unknown.
It is now being voiced about that Vmem beyond 2.2 volts when using phenom processor can possibly damage the internal memory controller and what that may lead to is yet unknown.
Back and forth from board to board it seems.
how does the Vmem have anything to do with the memory controller? more info please?
Memory controller is in cpu and all you have to do is harken back to the days when high memory voltage on athlon 64 cpu could damage the internal memory controller and it seems similar is afoot now and that voltage appears to be 2.2 on the memory with phenom processor with internal memory controller.
Back and forth from board to board it seems.
Memory controller is on the CPU. Vmem is regulated by the motherboard. Memory controller voltage is a function of Vcore, not Vmem. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just want to see evidence...
RGone i thought this was problem when running bh5 @3.3v or more, you had to run your cpu @1.4v to be safe
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It's been said that RGone is correct.
I'd love for that to be incorrect though.
RGone, when are we gonna see alot of DFI/790 boards available?
Availability is abysmal
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asus L1N64-ws or /b depending on bios chip
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vga= 8800gt
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custom chiller -31 water
2x dtek fuzions
bix3-with x3panaflo hi output
antec 850 quattro
heat under msimax abitmax and dfimax
split power plane on RD790 board...
what happened back in K8 days? im still here!
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maybe Tony's theory is rubbish if you haven't killed the chip yet lol
I've ran 2.2V very consistent so far (what my RAM is rated for) and 2.3V on the odd occassion. No problems since 12th Nov.
It's not Tony's fault.He just passed some informations he thought were eleveant to future Phenom owners.BTW,every K8 &10 CPU has-built in over-voltage protection which in turn can fail..We need more examples of failures in these circuits(and as effect burned/dead Phenoms).
guys
If you want to kill the memory controller on your Phenom run 2.3V...its as simple as that.
Remember im not quoting the one or two it may or may not happen too...im quoting from advice i have heard from many people now who are telling me its VERY dangerous.
Im not bothered personally if you kill your CPU or your ram if something happens in the CPU that causes the memory to die...in the end its your CPU to kill and i respect that.
I already know this theory has been tested and the CPU did die...2.4V was the vmem.
So...its upto you
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Tony maybe there is more to it than just high vdimm and low vcore
if not why are these systems still alive after all this time then??
mabye amds 65nm fab process is the one to blame?
when they still have problems with the process, i think it would be possible to see cpus/imc that are very voltage resistant and others that die just when you increase the voltage a bit above the recommended settings.
What is the title of this thread...does it say high vmem kills Brisbane?
K10 is a whole new architecture...remember that part.
There is 1 huge plus point here. K10 controlls memory a lot better than K8, as bios matures you will see.
Also clocks needing 2.4v on K8 don't need 2.4V on k10, in some cases huge drops in vmem will still work.
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What Tony says is absolutely true! Mem controller in K10 is way better compared to K8. My Ballistix is working flawlessly with 2.25V @1000MHz 4-4-4 timings. On K8 it needed 2.42V and it wasn't completely stable ...
If increasing NB voltage will mitigate risk of breaking CPU with over 2.2VDIMM then it's OK and most affected are AM2+ board owners (due to 1.1V NB power plane).
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