their supply is like all other it is sold as a fuel and not intended for use as a refrigerant. Are you taking a empty jug that got air in it ????? that is a non condensible & causes a lot of problems. If anything buy the bottled propane with throw away canisters like for torches. Stay away from the refillable cylinders.Originally Posted by LukeXE
The Laws of Thermodynamics say:
Zeroth Law: "You must play the game."
First Law: "You can't win."
Second Law: "You can't break even."
Third Law: "You can't quit the game."
Do you wanna Play Thermodynamics ????????I forgot "you must"
I have to.
Today I`ll ask my friend to do some photos by phone, to completed auto-c. To prove.
Ok great, im happy if everything is coming atlast and we can put this behind.
Töttörööö
Okay, I talked with my friend, at the evening he will do photos and I`ll show them. Just to show, that units are done, not virtually.
At the evening I`ll got "better" R290, so hope tuning will go well.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Enviro-Safe-R22a-...QQcmdZViewItem < Refined HC blend for only 10 dollars + Shipping.
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Yet to see if local customs will clear a can of refrigerant, but it's really a bargain.
Luke im amazed you retune a unit then send it the following week
With cascades i would build the unit in a few weeks then hold it for atleast a month before sending to ensure it works exactly the same way it did a month ago.
With so many joins a leak in a autocascade can take up to 2 months to show its ugly head.
Also tuning on load testers is very dangerous, ya really need a quad core to tune properly.
Selling so many units I really hope these coolers handle high loads, im yet to see one of your units bench a highly clocked pc.
May i also suggest to ppl to start using heatware.com there was a time when it was required to have this in your sign when selling stuff at XS.
I myself dont sell coolers through XS so dont bother, but should also start using it myself
fair point though as I stated they don't take on 20x cascades at a time... that's the secret, satisfy the customer you have before moving and taking other orders you are fearful of losing.There is nothing wrong with builders getting a deposit of some sort. Afterall there are so many idiots out there which will decide to change their mind when the phase builder already bought all the parts and starter assembling a system.
If builders you are talking about Raja have no issues with that then you tell me what would happen to their business if they had 20x autocascades on orders and absolutely no money until ready to ship and IMAGINE 15x of those customers decide to not buy the units for whatever reason. Their business would beed!!! pardon the french. Obviously there needs to be a contract as mentioned already so that the terms are clear to both parties in case the deposit is refundable, partly refundable and a
I have nothing against parts deposits, I think it just shows somebodies commitment when they concentrate their efforts on their customer. A parts value deposit works fine for me, full up front payment or a multiple of orders at one time, and broken time frame promises does not...
regards
Raja
Yea a REAL BARGAIN@ $10.00 for a 1/2 pound of propane plus shipping.
So Thats 20.00 dollar per pound + S&H for .50 cent per pound gas .
Last edited by wdrzal; 07-05-2007 at 12:00 PM.
The Laws of Thermodynamics say:
Zeroth Law: "You must play the game."
First Law: "You can't win."
Second Law: "You can't break even."
Third Law: "You can't quit the game."
Do you wanna Play Thermodynamics ????????
Kinda OT, but where else can you buy the pure R290 online? I need to get a hold of some...
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IMHO Waste is a computer going to a landfill having done actual computations less than 90% of it's life. 90% of the computers powered on right now are idle or powered off; what a waste! [/B]
Is it a coincidence that your wifes pc is called Uranus?
Kayl you should be able to look at a braze and tell if it leaks,it should flow smoothly all the way around. Get a small 1-1/2 round inspection mirror to check the under side and in tight spaces. Use refrigeration Grade tube,clean the outside and purge while brazing. I like to use phosphorous rods with no flux for copper to copper joints.
Then there is the pressure test, then the vacuum test. If you can't guarantee it's not leaking in a day their is something wrong. Like you have way to many leaks
If your having problems with flares buy a good flare tool,the cone needs to be hard to burnish the copper, cheap flare kits and cutters are no good. I always use double flares up to about 5/8 . Above that I use a flare tool that has the cone is set on a angle and rolls the flare instead of pressing it. There is a lot to look for in a proper made flare.
The atmospheric conditions like temperature and humidity is about the only thing that will cause the numbers to change if the load is a constant.
Last edited by wdrzal; 07-05-2007 at 12:33 PM.
The Laws of Thermodynamics say:
Zeroth Law: "You must play the game."
First Law: "You can't win."
Second Law: "You can't break even."
Third Law: "You can't quit the game."
Do you wanna Play Thermodynamics ????????
Argghh !!
Got photos by phone, on small sd card, got card adapter and my pc doesn`t see that adapter !! On friend`s pc too :| Why, why this happens to me :| I should shoot myself, nothing is going in good way, nothing.
Keep ur chin up bro . . .
Thats his problem,NO NOOKIEKeep ur chin up bro . . .
Couldn't resist.
The Laws of Thermodynamics say:
Zeroth Law: "You must play the game."
First Law: "You can't win."
Second Law: "You can't break even."
Third Law: "You can't quit the game."
Do you wanna Play Thermodynamics ????????
@wdrzal, i think u've hit the top dollar spot
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Walt you are paying for the higher end refining, so it is a fair price being I do not have to use power to dry it and scrub it, and it is tighter refined.
I like flares, need a better tool though, on average though with my cheaper one I get good gas tight flares.
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kayl you're a mod here show some tactLuke im amazed you retune a unit then send it the following week
With cascades i would build the unit in a few weeks then hold it for atleast a month before sending to ensure it works exactly the same way it did a month ago.
With so many joins a leak in a autocascade can take up to 2 months to show its ugly head.
Also tuning on load testers is very dangerous, ya really need a quad core to tune properly.
Selling so many units I really hope these coolers handle high loads, im yet to see one of your units bench a highly clocked pc.
May i also suggest to ppl to start using heatware.com there was a time when it was required to have this in your sign when selling stuff at XS.
I myself dont sell coolers through XS so dont bother, but should also start using it myself
also heatware is farked. Happyhero left a negative feedback just to spite me because i got him banned at OCAU for stealing from people. To make things worse heat[farking]ware is not removing the comment despite the fact i have proven to them that the supposed trade that took place was on a forum that closed down 2 years prior to that transaction taking place. i've complained to them several times now and no action has been taken (it's been a year now
Luke can we see some pics of cruise’s unit please in this thread.
Also some loaded results. Im also particularly interested how this unit will be cased and packed to safly make its way from Poland all the way to Australia?
Considering this happened to one of your units in the past by land
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=129472
Hate to see what could happen if packed in a similar way with no case.
Also have you or cruise looked at customs side of things for getting parcels into Australia, you have refrigerants + flammable liquids which both are considered as dangerous goods.
Are you sure customs will allow this??
If not declared you could get into a lot of trouble if something did go wrong.
Oh goat customs BS, there is a whole new head ach I need to duble check on.
Bring back natural selection! No more warning lables!
The one and Only MG Pony
Hey
Today will try to download pictures from sdcard on third computer, hope on it that thing will work. Now give me 5 minutes for breakfast,will go fill propane bottle and tune Cruise`s auto-c probably third or forth time. Now with new gas.
Everyone will see loaded results today
About customs, no problem, I`ve already know everything how to ship it without any problems mate.
EDIT:
$hit, still nothing, this $%$$$ adapter isn`t working !
EDIT2:
Ohhh, something is happening...
EDIT3:
Yes, is happening. I see storage G: drive but can`t open it !!
Last edited by LukeXE; 07-06-2007 at 01:15 AM.
I have to add my personal feelings in here.
I bought "Wildlady" cascade from luke about two months ago. It was ready when I payed it. Then I waited one month before he shipped it to me. I did hear all possible reasons why he couldn't take it to UPS.
He told, that he had car accident in april and few weeks ago it happened again
The unit arrived in cardboard box. Luckily it was not damaged badly. Only fan was of.
First I had to replace those really dangerous electric wirings. Someone could get killed with this unit
Performance is nothing that he promised because unit is tuned really badly.
(Luckily I have good E6700, that can do 5GHz easily ~ -70c.)
E6700 1.8V 5GHz - Idle temp is around -90 and load temp drops quickly to -70 or under. Worst that I have seen is -65. I don't even want to think what temps are with Quadcore
LUKE I really think that you should stop doing these units. Go to school and start over in few years. You have talent, but don't loose your credibilty. You can't get it back easily.
I don't want nothing bad to you, but please clean this mess now, before it's too late!
You are as good as your samples are!
:| Wild Lady was doing -103*C@215W, Piotres can prove that because she was tunned at his workshop :| Something is wrong :|
Yes, I`m not doing any units anymore. Just I`m finishing delayed and will have a break for a couple of years. Two cars accidents in three months are too many for me, not working units at customers houses, so unlucky year.
I thinked about changing topic name for something like "Finishing delayed units by Luke, information topic". I`ll post photos here, of working and tuned delayed three mini-c, will post photos of packaging, tracking numbers etc. What do you think about that ? By that we can easy communicate to clean that all mess did by me.
Luckily, I got better R290. I decided to add an auxiliary condensers too three mini auto-c, so I`m starting to do that.
Will be in contact
Last edited by LukeXE; 07-06-2007 at 04:04 AM.
good points, I did discuss them with Luke beforehand so hopefully we'll avoid any more problems, packing if done well will provide enough protection from damage. Customs should not be a concern from previous experience (unless made obvious by leakage) but I'll double check with them about it, and if we need to document it then that's what will be done.
Still I'd like to hear what precautions Luke will be taking in regards to this.
Last edited by cruise; 07-06-2007 at 05:54 AM.
pallets, pallets.. that's the way to ship cascades, no question about that.
those unit's is to heavy to carry in a good way without pallet truck.
I can't help feeling this is just adding more to the delays, regardless of the reasons there is not a single picture of these completed units, temps are nice too but they don't mean as much as an actual image.
It seems like a trend Lukasz, we get to a point where we're almost ready to ship and then something bad and outlandish happens to cause a delay.
No more delays or reasons anymore, please get this sorted out this week, after you get home from school and on the weekend gives you more than enough hours for testing.
By the way don't take it the wrong way, I'm happy that you're handling this situation now that I've put this thread here, instead of avoiding it you're communicating and letting us know what the deal is.
Last edited by cruise; 07-06-2007 at 11:30 AM.
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