ASUS P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3

[jVIDIA]

I'm going to ask something stupid but .... did anyone tried to flash the P5K Deluxe bios on a P5K-E ?? Is it possible ? Shouldn't it be ? Aren't they very similar ? Same PCB and all !

[GMX]

You can try, asus has this this program that when you screw your bios you throw the cd in and its somehow magically fixed.

Look it up though, read it through. Be prepared.

[Counter CS]

You should use PCI-E Frequency: 105Mhz.
If not you can have Booting issues.

I had an e6600 and it needed 1.5v-1.525v to get to 3.6 stable(400x9) -yours may not even run at 3.6. All CPUs are different - some run higher on less volts - its luck of the draw . You are best to enter manual settings on the P5K as some are adjusted automatically when you raise FSB and leave them on auto. Not always what you want. Try these and see how you get on. Change the FSB to 350 for starters and set vcore at 1.45v. Run the RAM 1:1 eg select the DDR that = 2xFSB. Boot and if stable close and Increase FSB in increments of 10 rebooting each time to check if stable.. Once you establish the maximum you can boot stable at with 1.45v raise vcore by .025v increments until you can reach FSB 400 which will give you 3.6Ghz (if you can that is) Raise NB to 1.55 if you start struggling for stabliity. I wouldnt go above 1.5v at this point - make sure core temps are okay e.g in the 50's on load. PC wizard has a nice temp monitor facility. Download from here http://www.cpuid.com/pcwizard.php load it and then minimise - temps will appear in top right corner of screen

Educational bedtime reading so you understand what u are doing in future
Basic overclocking guide - http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=103676
detailed reading to really understand - http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=195

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
RAS# Precharge: 4
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12
TWR: auto
TRFC: auto
TWTR: auto
TRRD: auto
TRTP: auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

Transaction Booster: Auto
Clock Over-Charging Mode: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.45v - 1.5v check temps
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.00v or whatever your rated volts are
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.4
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

[sesdave]

You should use PCI-E Frequency: 105Mhz.
If not you can have Booting issues.

Why? I have never encountered any problem on any MB booting or overclocking with PCI-E set to 100. Thats the standard locking setting. I see no reason to overclock it - I am not looking for an extra 100 mhz from my graphics card. Please explain.

[Trice]

I just want 3GHz and 1GHz RAM, but I have NO idea what these extra settings are!

My lil 650i was so much easier

[jinu117]

Why? I have never encountered any problem on any MB booting or overclocking with PCI-E set to 100. Thats the standard locking setting. I see no reason to overclock it - I am not looking for an extra 100 mhz from my graphics card. Please explain.

Think he got that information way back in some AMD time when mulit wouldn't get locked on AGP unless you move it away from default value. In all honesty, to my 482mhz FSB and 4.36ghz quad prime run, I never had issues with it for setting at 100 on this board.

[sesdave]

Think he got that information way back in some AMD time when mulit wouldn't get locked on AGP unless you move it away from default value. In all honesty, to my 482mhz FSB and 4.36ghz quad prime run, I never had issues with it for setting at 100 on this board.

Yes - thats what I thought. Things have moved on a bit since these heady days of only last year althought it seems a lot longer. I really enjoyed overclocking opertons and ddr ram on a dfi MB - it was a lot of fun and a lot harder !

[Leeghoofd]

I just want 3GHz and 1GHz RAM, but I have NO idea what these extra settings are!

My lil 650i was so much easier

Assuming you have a Q6600 ( 9 multi ) and PC 8000 ram as your signature gives PC5300 RAM and E6600 ( so also 9 multi ) , nothing hard for 3ghz mate, 400FSB might need some more intervention though 450 runs flatout here with 1.4 NB and all other settings for me on lowest setting, if you own a quad now you must play with the PLL setting : 1.6 should be more than sufficient for most FSB settings....

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
FSB Frequency: 333
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5 (this is safe setting tweak from here if it boots)
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 (this is safe setting tweak from here if it boots)
RAS# Precharge: 5 (this is safe setting tweak from here if it boots)
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 (this is safe setting tweak from here if it boots)
TWR: auto
TRFC: auto
TWTR: auto
TRRD: auto
TRTP: auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

Transaction Booster: Auto
Clock Over-Charging Mode: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.35 or whatever ya CPU needs for 3 ghz
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: AUTO
DRAM Voltage: 2.00v or whatever your required volts are
FSB Termination Voltage: AUTO
North Bridge Voltage: 1.25
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Enabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

[0rion]

@leeghoofd - I agree, I use pretty much the same settings, minus the PCI-e frequency change and the legacy USB.

Has anyone noticed any difference when overclocking on the 601 Bios? More stable, less stable, higher OC, things that run cooler? Ive got the 503 bios I believe, but Id love to get some improvements.

[sesdave]

I just want 3GHz and 1GHz RAM, but I have NO idea what these extra settings are!

My lil 650i was so much easier

As per settings but personally I would put FSB=1.3 or 1.4 as the the quad cores use FSB when communicating with each other and this will give you better stability in an overclock. You may find these links of use for BIOS setting detail and overclocking.

BIOS - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=361
overclock P5K guide - http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardwa...s-p5k-add.html
Detailed guide - good info and a spreadsheet to try figures out on- http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=195

I also posted you a response to help setting up raid re the F6 problem - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...26&postcount=9

[GMX]

@leeghoofd - I agree, I use pretty much the same settings, minus the PCI-e frequency change and the legacy USB.

Has anyone noticed any difference when overclocking on the 601 Bios? More stable, less stable, higher OC, things that run cooler? Ive got the 503 bios I believe, but Id love to get some improvements.

Much better stability over 500fsb for me. Much better RAM stability too at high clicks with static read control: ENABLED.

[Loyx]

Finally I've got 3.2Ghz stable (400x8 | 1:1)with this config:

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
RAS# Precharge: 4
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12
TWR: auto
TRFC: auto
TWTR: auto
TRRD: auto
TRTP: auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

Transaction Booster: Auto
Clock Over-Charging Mode: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1'525v
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.1v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.4
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Enabled

I've had to raise the vCore to 1'525 in Bios (1'5v in Everest). Is this too voltage? If you notice in CPU-Z the vCore is 1'238v... Why?
As you can see the core temps working hard (orthos) reached a maximum of 60C, being always between 55-60C (45 on idle).

Well, I hope that this PC remain stable with the Mac OSX86 I'm going to install before Christmas...

Thanks for all Sesdave and all those who shares his knowledge...

[sesdave]

Finally I've got 3.2Ghz stable (400x8 | 1:1)with this config:

I've had to raise the vCore to 1'525 in Bios (1'5v in Everest). Is this too voltage? If you notice in CPU-Z the vCore is 1'238v... Why?
As you can see the core temps working hard (orthos) reached a maximum of 60C, being always between 55-60C (45 on idle).

Well, I hope that this PC remain stable with the Mac OSX86 I'm going to install before Christmas...

Thanks for all Sesdave and all those who shares his knowledge...

Good start but 1.525v seems a lot of volts to get 400x8 - a lot of the E6600's were able to achieve that on stock volts or there about. Mine did 3.6 with 1.5v on a P5W but I ran it 390x9 with 1.45v most of the time. What batch is yours - it may be that you have just been unlucky on the one you got. Its woth trying raising the multipler to 9 and Northbridge=1.55 and see if that loads. at 400x9. If not or not stable drop the FSB down in increments of 10 keeping memory 1:1 until it does then try lowering the vcore. What PSU have you got - everest is showing the 12v rail as supplying only 11v (probably not accurate) and (dumb question but--) have you connected the 4/8 pin 12v connector to the board? Have you also checked the RAM out with memtest86 - what colour slots is it in.

[timber715]

Loyx, try to lower your Vcore, that seems so high... running my Q6600 @3.4Ghz with 1.375V... all other voltages are at the lowest settings.

[sesdave]

Loyx, try to lower your Vcore, that seems so high... running my Q6600 @3.4Ghz with 1.375V... all other voltages are at the lowest settings.

He has a E6600 which probably needs different settings - they averaged 3.6 on 1.5v so it is a lot of volts for 3.2 - wont kill it though!.
You might be able to get a higher o/c if you raise the FSB and north bridge voltages to 1.4. Quad cores use FSB to communicate. But I suspect you are happy with the low vcore-lol!

[Counter CS]

Try CPU-Z 1.41

Those vcore as so high
My E6600 run Orthos stable at 3200Mhz with 1.184v, 3400Mhz With 1.32v

Finally I've got 3.2Ghz stable (400x8 | 1:1)with this config:





I've had to raise the vCore to 1'525 in Bios (1'5v in Everest). Is this too voltage? If you notice in CPU-Z the vCore is 1'238v... Why?
As you can see the core temps working hard (orthos) reached a maximum of 60C, being always between 55-60C (45 on idle).

Well, I hope that this PC remain stable with the Mac OSX86 I'm going to install before Christmas...

Thanks for all Sesdave and all those who shares his knowledge...

[Loyx]

Good start but 1.525v seems a lot of volts to get 400x8 - a lot of the E6600's were able to achieve that on stock volts or there about. Mine did 3.6 with 1.5v on a P5W but I ran it 390x9 with 1.45v most of the time. What batch is yours - it may be that you have just been unlucky on the one you got. Its woth trying raising the multipler to 9 and Northbridge=1.55 and see if that loads. at 400x9. If not or not stable drop the FSB down in increments of 10 keeping memory 1:1 until it does then try lowering the vcore. What PSU have you got - everest is showing the 12v rail as supplying only 11v (probably not accurate) and (dumb question but--) have you connected the 4/8 pin 12v connector to the board? Have you also checked the RAM out with memtest86 - what colour slots is it in.

It seems that I have to test another configs...

My PSU is a Thermaltake Toughpower 550W. I have the 4 pin 12v connector plugged in. And the RAM are in the green slots (1,3).

First I'm going to check the ram with memtest86 for search errors. Then I'll try raising the multiplier (9)... and the northbridge voltage (1.55v)...

I'm wih the 0404 bios. Should I have to upgrade it to the latest? There are this bios in asus ftp:

File: 0501.zip 968 KB 22:11:00
File: 0503.zip 968 KB 22:11:00
File: 0505.zip 969 KB 16:11:00
File: 0601.zip 971 KB 16:39:00

Maybe that could help a little bit... or no?

[timber715]

He has a E6600 which probably needs different settings - they averaged 3.6 on 1.5v so it is a lot of volts for 3.2 - wont kill it though!.
You might be able to get a higher o/c if you raise the FSB and north bridge voltages to 1.4. Quad cores use FSB to communicate. But I suspect you are happy with the low vcore-lol!

was just a thought, seems it can be lowered... had an E6600 @ 3.2Ghz prime95 stable with a Vcore of 1.28V.
yes, i'm happy with my settings now, though your OC seems more decent than mine...

[sesdave]

was just a thought, seems it can be lowered... had an E6600 @ 3.2Ghz prime95 stable with a Vcore of 1.28V.
yes, i'm happy with my settings now, though your OC seems more decent than mine...

Hey - anything above stock is good - speed for free.! Its the fun of trying that counts.

[sesdave]

It seems that I have to test another configs...

My PSU is a Thermaltake Toughpower 550W. I have the 4 pin 12v connector plugged in. And the RAM are in the green slots (1,3).

First I'm going to check the ram with memtest86 for search errors. Then I'll try raising the multiplier (9)... and the northbridge voltage (1.55v)...

I'm wih the 0404 bios. Should I have to upgrade it to the latest? There are this bios in asus ftp:

File: 0501.zip 968 KB 22:11:00
File: 0503.zip 968 KB 22:11:00
File: 0505.zip 969 KB 16:11:00
File: 0601.zip 971 KB 16:39:00

Maybe that could help a little bit... or no?

Remember what I said that its luck of the draw on whether you get a good clocking CPU - we are just trying to establish if the overclock is being restricted by something other than the CPU.
how old is the PSU you have. Have you used it on another machine? The vcore just seems a tad high for an o/c of 3.2 on an e6600 - should do more on less but may not!. Did you buy the CPU new - what is its batch number.?
Green RAM slots ? I thought they were yellow or black. I found the black gave me best stability.
Once you have tried the above and if no luck see if you can borrow another PSU to try - Cant advise on the BIOS as I am now using a premium. Check the thread for feedback on the latest deluxe BIOS.

[0rion]

I flashed my bios with the 601 beta on the site. Corrupted the bios, and im having Asus ship me a new board Tried everything, including pulling all cables and drives and doing a 12hr cmos clear. Im going to try flashing it again when i get the new one... I just put the new bios on a flash drive, then used the EZflash utility in the bios. It verified the file and everything, but still got corrupted. I hit F1 to enter the bios after it flashed it, then immediately went to black screen. I dunno. kinda peeved about having to take out my whole water setup though.

[cinders]

Unlucky mate. I feel for you.

[Leeghoofd]

Orion you tried to flash with an OC ? Was the rig stable before ?

[Loyx]

Mates, I think I've found the problem...
My Batch num: L707A409

Some comments about this Batch:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/...-11-2ghz-e6600
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=147041
http://forums.hexus.net/abit-care-he...gt-bugged.html

Yes, I'm unlucky! This batch gets poor OC's
I'm going to set the cpu @ 3.0Mhz and maybe after Xmas I'll order a newest CPU. What about a Q6600? xD

[sesdave]

I flashed my bios with the 601 beta on the site. Corrupted the bios, and im having Asus ship me a new board Tried everything, including pulling all cables and drives and doing a 12hr cmos clear. Im going to try flashing it again when i get the new one... I just put the new bios on a flash drive, then used the EZflash utility in the bios. It verified the file and everything, but still got corrupted. I hit F1 to enter the bios after it flashed it, then immediately went to black screen. I dunno. kinda peeved about having to take out my whole water setup though.

Bummer - I RMA'd my deluxe a few months back after using Asus update(serves me right for using it) but that failed verify which is why it corrupted.- my lesson learnt!. Is it totally corrupted e.g no post at all -stange if it verified okay. If not crashfree to an older version might do it.