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25 mins... is tooooooo longggggg..
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25 mins... is tooooooo longggggg..
Blazin' speed for those who don't hit minimal requirementsOriginally Posted by StyM
Fast computers breed slow, lazy programmers
The price of reliability is the pursuit of the utmost simplicity. It is a price which the very rich find most hard to pay.
http://www.lighterra.com/papers/modernmicroprocessors/
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Mind you atleast when I install XP and the install screen says 30minutes remaning its only really 10 minutes, so I would rather them say it will take 25 minutes and only really take 15
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This is probably due to the built in benchmark to rate your system at the first boot. Hence the blank screens part(happens when it tests your vga)Originally Posted by StyM
on a gateway i owned the pc only had windows half loaded when you bought it, it was at the point where the sytem reboot and boots from the hd for the first time. so i bet that is what it is doing. it is the rest of the install, that way the countdown for activation and set-up stuff is left up to the end user plus it can set-up the accesories and other bs.
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the short answer is:Originally Posted by arisythila
Depends
Fast computers breed slow, lazy programmers
The price of reliability is the pursuit of the utmost simplicity. It is a price which the very rich find most hard to pay.
http://www.lighterra.com/papers/modernmicroprocessors/
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I'm pretty sure that says "the first time". I think you can bear with it if it's a one-time thing.
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dont need vista.
Ya saw that when I bought Vista at the store. Eh if it took 6min at that screen on the first boot not bad IMO.
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My dad works for Raytheon. If their IT guys say wait, then I wait. I think they run a lot more important stuff than CS: S and :banana::banana::banana::banana:, but I'll still wait.
Note: This is only with Geek Squad.
They prolly provide a semi-installed computer which starts the setup proces (right after the files have been copied to the hdd and the first reboot occurs).
Then Vista goes through the setup (Geek Squad prolly configured it not to show the installation proces) and after about 25 mins Vista is installed en ready to go (at my PC it was only 18 mins but hey).
However rebooting during the installation may cause setup to become corrupted thus you have to reinsert the DVD and restart setup from there. These PC's however are prolly not supplied with such an DVD, so people have to return them to the store.
This has really nothing to do with Vista actually having a 25 mins boot time, that's total BS. Vista boots up under 1 min even on slower systems, especially when it's a brand new installed.
And everybody shouting "I don't want Vista, I don't need it..." STFU and just try it out.
Microsoft has a free 30 days trial version which you can try at no costs.
It'll take about 25 mins max to install, and doesn't ask any difficult questions during setup.
After that, if you've tried it for 30 days and you don't want it? Just throw it away.
If you do want it? Go to the store, buy Vista, enter the key and you don't even need to reinstall it.
So stop whining about "Should I take it?" "Is it worth it?" "Do I have to wait?" "I don't want it!" "I'll buy it later"
Just go and try it, nobody can tell you what's best for you, you just have to find out.
For me: Totally worth it, it is just as good as XP in some area's and better in most area's. So that makes it worth it. If that doesn't make it worth it XP wasn't worth it either.
Also: If you think 25 mins is long for a Vista install?
You can do a network installation if you have a Windows Server 2003, that takes only about 2 mins.
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i took a 1 day test of vista and it installed in less then the time it took me to take a shower... thats faster then XP.
However, vista is cool, but its more of a gimmick for me, not worth the hassle to relearn how to do everything just for a slick GUI (which for personally i would disable it all anyways, i like it clean and simple. )
^ +1, Windows classic theme FTW! But 30-day free trial...that's awful tempting...
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Sorry if it's obvious, but where can I find the 30 day free trial? Is it a DVD or a download?
Τhe short answer is hell no, not until SP1 is out (or for some hardcore SP2)Originally Posted by nn_step
Or until driver support starts trickling through at least, for me that is the biggest problem.Originally Posted by Fatal Error
The above is quite normal for an OEM install isn't it. Not that I've ever purchased a new PC package but at work when we get a new PC which has a sysprep'ed image it always takes time to do the final config and registration.
Maybe people should read the handbook that comes with the PC as that should explain all.
Its takes 20 sec to boot my vista..im impressed
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Perhaps I can shed a bit of light on the situation. I work at a BB a couple days a week in my spare time (its a good discount). Thorry was on the right track, but his scope was a bit too narrowly focused. I've been working back in the Geek Squad area recently because they've been swamped with computers, and the 25-minute boot time is fairly accurate. I want to note that this is only on initial boot, and will occur with any branded computer (such as Gateway, HP, etc.), whether it's at a Best Buy, Circuit City, CompUSA, etc.
Thorry is correct in that the OS is not completely installed when you first boot the PC. Upon first boot, the PC will run an initial configuration, which can take a few minutes, then you must go through the setup and registration process(name, internet type, user accounts, etc.), then the performance tests run b/c you get monitor switching and such. This all takes around 15 minutes. When it looks like you are close to actually booting to the desktop, all of the advertising bloatware installs itself. This stuff is on the PC from the factory, but does not actually install itself until the first boot. There are generally 10-15 programs that load, varying by manufacturer. The automated installation can take 10-15 minutes to complete, thus placing in the 25-30 minute range for initial boot.
Once you completely uninstall all of the bloatware on the PC, it will boot just as quickly as any other copy of Vista, meaning in the ~30 second range.
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lmao... you some kind of economist or somethin?Originally Posted by nn_step
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nope, just someone who knows that some people want the latest greatest features and probably should get it; as well as those who are more reasonable and can patiently wait.Originally Posted by FghtinIrshNvrDi
Fast computers breed slow, lazy programmers
The price of reliability is the pursuit of the utmost simplicity. It is a price which the very rich find most hard to pay.
http://www.lighterra.com/papers/modernmicroprocessors/
Modern Ram, makes an old overclocker miss BH-5 and the fun it was
That'd be me.Originally Posted by nn_step
Actually these are ALL manufacture computers right out of the sealed box. and its not 25 mins for vista install, its for the first time the machine is ever powered on, going through the initial setup/configuration process.Originally Posted by Thorry
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the first boot does take a few minutes. but after that, vista starts up pretty quickly.
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