I was thinking swapping my P4 630 & Asus P5AD2-E Premium to that set and I was wondering how much I could OC those? Is 4GHz possible with watercooling and that mobo?
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I was thinking swapping my P4 630 & Asus P5AD2-E Premium to that set and I was wondering how much I could OC those? Is 4GHz possible with watercooling and that mobo?
I dont see why as long as your vcore doesnt drop much 4.0ghz is running the board at 200fsb - factory rating. 805 can easily reach 4.0 and beyond slightly north of 1.5xv. I got two of these and they even overclock well at stock voltage.
Hmm...It's quite tempting 136 euros for a dual core cpu and 93 euros mobo, I could easily sell my excisting cpu and mobo for 250e and get those :)
I seriously doubt that you'll ever see 4.0ghz on ANY nForce 4 MoBo.
And from 2.66ghz to 4.0ghz? I don't think it'll ever happen unless with a photoshop SS modified.
Save your money.
805 vs a 630 that 630 is alot better. Dont waste ur money on 805.
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Originally Posted by Nasgul
Hmm, you do know that the 805 runs at 133fsb? 4.0ghz for the 805 will be running it at 200fsb. Only limitation would be the amount of vcore the board can hold to at load.
Why wouldn't the nforce mobo run at 200mhz fsb? Any reason to doubt the board is not able to run at factory spec? I know about its limitation to reach north of 225fsb without issues, but I am almost certain it would run at 200fsb .
I would however not get a nforce chipset mobo and lean towards a 955x or a 945P chipset mobo.
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Originally Posted by ORCBEAST
Have you checked the comparo between a 930 and a 805 when both are overclocked? 805 is within +-5% performance in various comparo that one other thread in this board has shown. Not to mention 805 will feel a lot faster when doing regular tasks because of its multi-tasking ability.
Next week when I'll get my new case and rad I will see if I can OC this cpu more :woot: I'm also thinking about getting a new mobo that supports Conroe and maybe that will also boost my OC with this 630.
This is just one of a few threads about 805.. Those who have them reports an OC between 3.8 and 4.2..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
Extremely good performance for very little money I would say..
Interesting to se several "Intel-fans" seemingly not knowing "diddly" about this nice littel dual-core..
not true, Get a P5LD2 and a D805 and you will see 200x20(4ghz) no problem. The only problem is that the cpu is bus limited because it has such a high multi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
Still for about $275 that combo cant be beaten
Yep if you check out some reviews on the 805, youll find more then enough info on it. Ive seen nothing but good reviews and even better overclocks.
Shoot how could you go wrong with that kinda Cost to performance ratio??
:google: is your friend :rolleyes:Quote:
2.66ghz to 4.0ghz? I don't think it'll ever happen unless with a photoshop SS modified
would you care to make a wager? say a permaban for the loser?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
i don`t think that P5ND2 Deluxe can handle 4ghz for 24/7
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...smithfield.jpgQuote:
And from 2.66ghz to 4.0ghz? I don't think it'll ever happen unless with a photoshop SS modified.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4715619
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/659...0mhzpi32mb.jpg
On an Intel® D975XBX Motherboard:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
http://sleektech.nl/~dm/review/intel...dc-oc-vc-s.png
CPU-Z Validation
That's on stock voltage, on stock cooler =)...I believe it can go better with water and voltage bump.
More about it here http://sleektech.nl/~dm/review/intel...pd-805-01.html
Guys what do you think about 805 + P5P800SE + bh-5 combo? will it be comaparable to 805 with 955 and some DDR2 @ 800?
I would say so. Myself and a few other people are getting very good results with D805 and P5P800 SE combo.Quote:
Originally Posted by ent
POSTED HERE:http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=94143
What would be good mobo for 805? My budget is pretty tight so I'm looking sub 100€ board that can reach 200MHz fsb.
I think that Asus P5LD2 will be the best choice, however I dont know the price in Finland. This board is cheaper than 955 and 975 Asus boards, but it is still a good OC mobo.
So, has anyone actually tried the 805 with and SLI board? Because it looks like an awfully cheap combo, but i remember problems with the 820 and Nforce4 Intel, and i wonder if those problems also apply to the 805...
It does work, but there are no OC results here in XS :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnie
edit: Found this http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=75255 :)
Perhaps you didn't know that he was referring to 4.0ghz on an P5ND2-SLI?Quote:
Originally Posted by TL1000S
And yes, it's 4.0ghz+ the common with ANY 955X and 975X (also the 945P?).
What part is not true?Quote:
Originally Posted by Welz
I still think that 4.0ghz is not feasible with an nForce 4 MoBo.
On ANY motherboard with an Intel Core Logic, of course that'll be the minimum.
Do you want me to explain it to you in sign language so you can uderstand what the point is?Quote:
Originally Posted by viper650
FINALLY, someone who understood what the point is.Quote:
Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal
The part of: from 2.66ghz to 4.0ghz, I was still implying with the P5ND2. I saw the great powah of an 805 (with an Intel Core Logic of course!) here: LINK 805. So never insult my knowlege on Intel related material.
Viper, you lost, now ban yourself.
Now for those who didn't get the point, let me correlate with my fingers (doing sign language): An 805 runs on a 133fsb which means it needs a 67fsb overclock to get to 4.0ghz.......now where on this planet have you seen a P5ND2-SLI doing a 67fsb overclock? :slapass:
Last, please read the messages # 1 and #2. Thank you, come again!
I see, so you are saying even though the board is speced to run at 200fsb, it will not be able to do so because nobody has ever seen 67mhz overclock on that nvidia board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
I would love to prove your wrong, but I dont have the money to burn. So you win I guess. :clap:
why would it matter that its 67mhz more than 133?, the point is that it is still the base spec of the board. So really you aren't overclocking the FSB at all, you are just setting it to its standard specs instead of the lowered FSB for this chip.
IL+1
why dont you shut your mouth, punk. you are by FAR the biggest piece of worthless garbage in the intel section. if this was OT, i would rip you a new one. but since the mods here dont take stuff as lightly, i will stop with youre a jackoff.
woah. chill.Quote:
Originally Posted by viper650
may I draw attention to a member's signature:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/member.php?u=14395
4GHZ is apparently doable on the P5ND2, i considered giving that setup a try as well. I havn't seen any SS's though.
That is a Kodak moment, good find Vap. Just curious as to how you found that?Quote:
Originally Posted by vapb400
I woul've never believe it but then again.....I still have a little bit of a doubt; Vdimm, Vc. Daily, really?
Hi all, im realy considering this setup to since the P5ND2-SLI is a cheap mobo and so is the 805 a cheap dual core. The only problem is i have heard bad things about the P5ND2-SLI and overclocking. If someone can prove the critics wrong and hit 4GHz with an 805 count me in within a week.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...42&postcount=7
i noticed it in his sig there, he doesn't post alot though. Maybe we can get him in here?
dunno if it is modded or not. It seems like it isn't in that post....but needs to be.
iunno if we can believe him, I want him in here and I wanna see benchies, and mods, and which bios hes using.
all i can say is that the p5nd2 is a pos mobo.
every one knows about the bad reviews and its good to c one guy running a Pentium D @ 4ghz but just one isn`t enough to prove nothing to me
Lookie what i found:
http://www.burntware.com/dc/
and this: from [H]forum
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I got a D 805, P5ND2, 2GB G.Skill, delivered today (along with a new PSU and X1800XT 512mb).
4.0GHz I get prime errors. 3.96GHz @1.475v no errors (6+ hours). 51c load using an XP90.
I'm liking the P5ND2. Seperate memory clock, easy to overclock in windows, tons of features that could take me a while to figure out.
vapb400 how do you find all this stuff!!!! thats a good looking review!!! got me 1 foot out the door LOL!:stick:
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Originally Posted by vapb400
thats nice
:clap:
time to try SLI/Intel again
PC criminal you try it you already have the cpu's and DDr2 ram and a 7900, all you need is to get the board for $100 and test away. For me i gotta build an entire new system im still of s478 2.4
lol i'm just observant and browse an obscene amount of forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inteleron
Awww man I might jsut splurge this weekend and pick up both. I can get both board + cpu for $325 canadian ($279 USD) I can't wait any longer. I sold my skt- A gaming rig back in xmas 2005, while it was still worth sumthing, and have been using old p4 2.4/ radeon 9100 ever since. This :banana::banana::banana::banana: ass comp got my panties up in a bunch, I can't wait for conroe!!!!!!
How about a pin mod? Just set it to 200 MHz, we all know that the mobo can handle it. Then it's up the actual CPU used if it can handle it = being lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
excelent point. That would trick the mobo to default it at 4GHz, it would probly think its a 920 oc'd or sumthin
im pretty sure with the retarted 533MHz fsb you can bump it to 800 no problem which would be 4GHz and stock on any other cpu, + maybee another 15-20% oc on top of the 800 and ur looking at 4.2 nigguhhurtz!! Remember! all the ppl complaining about this board, cant get it over 850+ we can take 800 + anything extra and call it a day @ 4.2
Maybe, maybe not. As I said above, it's up to the CPU. The problem is that you have to overvolt if needed before you do the pinmod, otherwise it won't POST, and clearing CMOS won't help you either. And since we're dealing with LGA you have to use solder or conductive paint for the mod, just not as easy to remove as a wire in a PM socket. But when you've got it right you don't have to bother anymore as long as you don't clear CMOS...:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Inteleron
If it runs 4 GHz at stock Vcore then it's a simple set and forget thing, although I guess they need overvolting. All Intel boards should have plain old FSB jumpers!
I dont think 805 will run 4ghz at stock. I got two of those. Both needs 1.5x volts to go beyond 4ghz to be stable in prime95, sp2004 etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
Anyone try the 805 with anything more than an air heatsink? I know 4Ghz from a $130 chip seems crazy, but it really isn't asking much when the chip comes from the factory at 133MHz *20. I swear I've seen a few benchmarks of this thing running 4.7GHz, can't find the link with Google though, too much garbage comes up.
probly need watercooling to be stable at 4+GHz
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Originally Posted by Inteleron
i had a bad run with PentiumD and that board and just 300mhz+ @ HT off and using Aibooster
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/9531/214892ne.jpg
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/6103/79128rz.jpg
and using a Prescott 660
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4...4211mhz8uy.jpg
7800GTX x 2
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4232282
not 24/7 stable at 3.8ghz :(
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For me i gotta build an entire new system im still of s478 2.4
i c .....you need a new machine but this is a new and cheap combo to think about
or you can keep the agp/ddr and start with p5p800 + 805
see your problem is getting over the stock 800 fsb on those chips, try a D 805 i think you can hit 4GHz 800fsb no probs which is stock on those other cpu's, you have the whole area between 533-800fsb to play with.
i will try again and i just want a good and stable OC for my SLIQuote:
Originally Posted by Inteleron
:toast:
plz try with a D 805.
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Originally Posted by Inteleron
Yes Sir
:toast:
This looks really tempting, when I get rid of my Dothan stuff I am definitly going to go for this combo
Err, why not wait for Conroe?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnie
Maybe here?Quote:
Originally Posted by gomeler
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Originally Posted by Mats
well we need to wait for 3 or 4 months to get Conroe and a stable mobo ..
129us$ + 100us$ for a combo like that isn`t a bad idea
You're right, I just thought that since he had a Dothan he could wait. I mean, it can't be that bad. I would never buy a PD if I had a PM (yeah they both have their cons). I'm not telling people not to buy things in general, but going from PM to PD is almost like taking a step backwards into Netburstaurus era. I say "almost" just because he'll get dual core with a PD, that's a big advantage. We all know the cons though, don't have to mention them. In the end it's all about what he want to use it for.Quote:
Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal
the big deal is a update (or downgrading) from Dothan to PD 805/Nforce4 and keep DDR2/PCIEX video card to use with Conroe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
:toast:Quote:
In the end it's all about what he want to use it for
I checked out that page on the 805 super pi run but there werent to many p5nd2-SLI runs, im hoping for more of them b4 i upgrade.
ha, its non of that, i just like to mess around with new stuff all the time. Nothing like getting a parcel through the post early in the morning :P It wont perform as well, but like I say, simply something to mess around with
Hrm lets say we cant get this board working well, my next choice is P5WD2. Does the regular P5WD2 oc well? or must I go with Premium/ E-Premium?
AFAIK regualr P5WD2 overcloks as good as Premium.
even E-PREMIUM?
Just picked up the same combo and have had nothing but luck with it so far. Running on air ive got a Zalman CNPS9500 and Antec P180. http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/dpgx/3dmark.jpg Ill have to play around with it more this weekend i havent really had a chance to go beyond this yet.
Looking good so far at what i guess is stock volts. Do you have a CPUZ screenie to give some more information?Quote:
Originally Posted by DPGX
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Yep stock voltage this was achieved at. I ran Prime for 45 mins or so last night and it had no stability issues. Ill post up a CPU-Z screeny after work tnite, for 130 dollars this is the best processor money can buy right now imo (for anyone willing to overclock).
You mean a D 805 & P5ND2-SLI?Quote:
Originally Posted by DPGX
If you look the screenshot that he posted there is a Nvidia monitoring software and that shows that he's using nf4 mobo :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Inteleron
You are simply genious!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nazu
Yep P5ND2-SLI and a PD805. I havent had any problems after realizing that the Asus CD actually autoinstalls software for its NOS utility (it installs some sort of driver for it). If you uninstall it and disable this device it remedied most of my problems. I had problems with my mouse pausing and my SLI config disabeling itself prior to this but its been great since. I did have to update the bios -- the default bios recognized it as a Pentium 4 2.66 with 2 CPU's. Im currently using 0601. Im looking foward to the weekend so I have a chance to play with it some more -- I havent touched voltage at all yet. I do want to pick up another gb of ram this weekend, would 4 modules hurt stability at all?
Hrmmm... Iv read alot of places that 4 modules diminishes some performance, im going for 2x1024mb when i get my setup. By the way whats the NOS utility?
NOs is a automatic overclocking utility, it's pretty useless if you know how to OC from the bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inteleron
The funny thing is the util wasnt installed it was just the driver -- i simply inserted the asus cd for the intel nic drivers and it auto installed it.
hrmm... so NOs interferes with the bios overclocking? ill remember to uninstall that when i get my setup soon times!!!
it actually has some sort of device driver for the utility which was causing the interference. Im not sure why. The utility was not even installed I overclocked via BIOS. Once uninstalling the actual driver for this utility its been completely stable.
post some screenies for all these inte/sli h8ters out there!@
Ill def post some up tonight, im looking foward to playing with it when I get home... Now that I identified my problem ill probably reformat, Every reboot it tries to reinstall the device unfortunately. After that Ill take some screenys though. Im actually pretty happy with the mobo although the northbridge does run fairly warm to the touch. Debating picking a fan up for it this weekend. Funny thing is Im running under the rated FSB speed of the board so I dont imagine im doing anything abnormal thats causing it to run a little warm. Mobo temp shoes as 30C as well so the case temp is very cool. I have to say im pretty impressed with how smoothly this all went as I expected problems from what I've read around the net. I've also seen these mobo's dont overclock well and was pleasantly surprised with the no effort 3.6ghz overclock of the 805.
HEHEH Thats some good news, when you fix the problem let us know exacty what you did cuz i definitly dont wanna run into that.
All youd need to do -- download the Intel NIC drivers ahead of time for the motherboard its got a 1000MT nic (theyre also on asus site). Aside from that just never insert the cd that ships with the motherboard or install the Asus NOS overclocking utility. I thought it might be useful to monitor temperatures but I've since switched to ntune. Just disable the unknown device thatll be listed in device manager and pretend its not even there. Apparently the Asus driver cd that ships with the board auto installs the driver for this device / copys the files to your hard drive without prompting you to do much of anything. I guess you may be able to disable autorun but to be totally honest Im not sure at which point it had installed the driver after inserting the cd. Im pretty surprised that it caused some of the issues it had. My SLI config would randomly uncheck the box to enable SLI on reboot which I had found really odd, and i had intermittent mouse issues where it wouldn't respond. I've read a couple reviews that also had issues and Im starting to wonder if they were having the same problem I was -- its really strange.
I'll be interested to see how far you can get the fsb up on that 805 with this board.
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Originally Posted by DPGX
Alrighty, just download the drivers frum Asus site and make you own drivers disk, GOTTCHA!!
Got any further with it? Impatient to see lol
Same here!Quote:
Originally Posted by davvy76
OK..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
What about this.
Not sign language I'm afraid.. :)
Correct me if i'm wrong (usually am) but in the shot he's running the ram at 2:1 so doesnt that mean its only at 100mhz? I know from experience this board has a problem running the memory at its rated speed. ie. set it to 667mhz and it shows in windows as 166mhz.
How did you get to the 348Mhz on memory of PC4300 and 930D? What PSU?Quote:
Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal
I have 940D and Corsair 6400 and maximum I can get is 291Mhz stable. And that is on Prometeia!!! Maybe it is my PSU (Thermaltake 680W) but anything above 291MHz and computer reboots under load.
Thanks