K8N Neo 2 + OCZ PowerStream bug! Solutions???

I am having exact same problem as AfterBridge86. He tried a new OCZ PSU to get it to work and I tried a new K8N Neo 2 and it is still the same problem. Works a couple of hours thinking life is wonderful then suddenly it wont boot. It still boots with other PSUs... I have run across quite a few people with this problem... has anyone a solution for this problem??? Has anybody here good contact to MSI or something?? The thing driving me nuts is that both the K8N Neo 2 and the OCZ PowerStream works... but not together, it did at first but not anymore... its sensationell. Ive never ran across a problem like this one... is it bigger tha univers? I almost think so.....

This is strange.
See thread (expect you have seen it)
EDIT: Duh it's your thread :(

I see a thread on it over here which is prolly the best place for it.
Dunno if you can see that forum if you are not a member, so go http://www.ocztechnology.com/support/ then OCZ Support Forum.

Split...you will provide me with linkage to the video clip in your sig.....

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Split...you will provide me with linkage to the video clip in your sig.....

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Me also :D

It's a GIF I found on the web ages ago.
I had to mod it to get it past the max size thing.

She does bounce well though ;)

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It's a GIF I found on the web ages ago.
I had to mod it to get it past the max size thing.

She does bounce well though ;)

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We should change the name of this thread to
"split's avatar"

Better yet, we should open a thread "If you know who the woman on split's avatar is, then help us by posting more info, links, videos etc" :D :p:

Back on topic: I have the OCZ PS as well, and I will avoid the MSI NEO because of this problem....I hate RMA situations. I guess I can't understand how the PSU matters, but I have seen stranger things.

Back off topic: I may have to offer a reward for the full video of that avatar..though it is probably off some music video and that is about the extent of it.

I have the K8N Neo2 Plat Ultra and the OCZ 520 powerstream and I'm doing just fine...

i'm running my OCZ 520 with my Neo2 for a month now without problems.

That is good to hear...but I can guarantee if I buy one, mine will have problems...that is the way my luck goes.

Could it be related to the 3.3, 5 and 12v rails being set too high?
Too high for the mainboard's liking that is...
Maybe that's worth looking into?

SteveOCZ has replied over here to someone using an OCZ on a Neo 2.

Ok I got a reply back. We've had a Neo 2 running with a power stream for over a week with no problems, but he did mention something that he ran into a few times. He noticed that sometimes the MSI board is a bit weird in that sometimes it won’t reboot unless you disconnect all the power connectors from every device (including drives) and also pull out the CMOS battery and short the two CMOS battery connectors together for a few minutes.

I'm assuming you did disconnect everything when you changed power supplies but did you try clearing the bios? If you did any things are still a no go we should go ahead and RMA the power supply so we can test it out and get you a new one that works 100%

Just pop me an email and we will get it underway

The cmos circuit is usually driven by the +3.3 line, maybe the board is not providing enough current draw on the +3.3 line? Some PSU's will not start if they dont have enough draw on a rail.

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The cmos circuit is usually driven by the +3.3 line, maybe the board is not providing enough current draw on the +3.3 line? Some PSU's will not start if they dont have enough draw on a rail.

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Hmn I found I can start an OCZ with no load.
Just a wire in the normal 2 sockets.
http://www.ochardware.com/articles/p...dwiresmall.jpg

The only thing I have ever found different on an OCZ is that it doesn't like a Antec PSU tester.
For some reason when testing an OCZ with one of those, the 5 volt rail drops below 4 V.
I was told by the OCZ guys that this PSU uses different technology (think server was mentioned)

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For some reason when testing an OCZ with one of those, the 5 volt rail drops below 4 V.
I was told by the OCZ guys that this PSU uses different technology (think server was mentioned)

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Active PFC vs. Passive PFC I guess? the ocz PSU requires load to rails in order to give proper volts.

Not sure what was going on really, but I got some weird results.
It's meant to: Built-in 25W 5.4 ohm load to generate steady outputs.

Just messed up the 5 volt rail tho. The other 2 where fine.
Just don't use one of these on a OCZ and expect to get the correct results.

This is what you get :(

Well guess I'm going to order the Asus A8V 2.0 instead of the Neo 2 since this problem arised :P

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Well guess I'm going to order the Asus A8V 2.0 instead of the Neo 2 since this problem arised :P

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I'm a little perplexed too. I had just bought a 90nm 3500+ and a Neo2 but I have 3700EB RAM and the OCZ 520 PS. I've had poor results to say the least.

Funny that I would invest in some good OCZ stuff to keep for the long haul and that's what is now dictating what I have to buy to work right. Didn't see that coming.

I may just buy an FX-55 chip and some compatibile MB and be done with it. I wasted a weekend on overclocking this and got nothing but a restocking fee.

B

im having this same problem but with a antec 550watt true control so i dont think its directly related to OCZ's power stream. i got my msi firday and i had it running all weekend long no problems nothing. i went to bed last night at around 12:30 and shut the system off. i woke up 5 hours later and went to power on the system and nothing. when i switch the psu off in the back of the psu i can hear it shutting off and when i switch it back on and hit the power button the fans will spin for a few seconds then it just goes dead... i am puzzled and very pissed off right now! i just got this damm FX-53 and now this POS msi is keeping me from enjoying it :(

btw: i know this is an old topic so what did you finaly wind up doing? did you get it resolved or did you simply just rid the mb like i should do?!?!



later perc,

I have an Antec True Control 550, and my Previous Board would false start. Lights and Fans for about a second and then power off. Sometimes I could get it to start after 5,10, or 20 tries. One thing I noticed is that I accidently turned my computer on without the power connector to my 9800 Pro connected. Computer would boot every time I tried this. So I got used to starting my computer by plugging in the video card power connector about a 1 second after power on. Kind of a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty way to live with it. In the mean time, I would leave my computer on all the time. My Antec also did the same thing on an Intel board.

Funny thing is when I recently upgraded my computer with all the same components, and a Winchester 90nm, and the MSI Neo2, I have not had this problem any more.

Maybe you guys might want to try my "work around". Might be a little risky, but I never fried anything.

I think I have a solution... got it at OCZ Support forums. It worked for me. When/if your computer false starts with my combination, remove all power connectors, HDD, 5.25", ATX, 12V... everything. Remove the BIOS battery and short the two battery pins with for example a screw. Wait a couple of minutes, reconnect everything... works beautiful for me.... :toast: Hope this could solve some problems...

Over and out

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Originally Posted by FXFreaK

I think I have a solution... got it at OCZ Support forums. It worked for me. When/if your computer false starts with my combination, remove all power connectors, HDD, 5.25", ATX, 12V... everything. Remove the BIOS battery and short the two battery pins with for example a screw. Wait a couple of minutes, reconnect everything... works beautiful for me.... :toast: Hope this could solve some problems...

Over and out

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so a cmos reset fixes this problem? :confused:

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Originally Posted by FXFreaK

I think I have a solution... got it at OCZ Support forums. It worked for me. When/if your computer false starts with my combination, remove all power connectors, HDD, 5.25", ATX, 12V... everything. Remove the BIOS battery and short the two battery pins with for example a screw. Wait a couple of minutes, reconnect everything... works beautiful for me.... :toast: Hope this could solve some problems...

Over and out

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Thanks for the hint, but that's more of an ugly baid-aid than a solution. I don't know if the problem is with the power supplies or the motherboard but it would be nice to know the root of the issue.

B

i went out and bought a generic psu "allied 500watt" to hold me over. the system powers on fine now. just gotta see if it starts acting up again? i tell you guys as soon as DFI comes out with thier 939 lanparty... i am getting rid of this msi mb so for now ill use this el-cheapo psu and not oc the damm thing and pray like hell DFI gets off thier arses and releases that way over due lanpary 939 mb...

peace perc,

Have you guys tested to be sure you have the motherboard and any extra power connectors for video cards or items linked to the system through agp/pci/pci-e that need extra power are all on one rail? HDD's, floppy, and optical dont count since they do not send a +12v or +5v signal back through their connections.

My thinking is that the dual +12v rails may be conflicting with each other if you have one connected to the system (through the atx connector etc) and the other through the video card or an extra add-on card that may require extra power.

This assumes that the +12's are not connected internally too, however.

im running my system out side of the case with only one hard drive a video card and 2 sticks of memory thats it. oh and the box cooler.... i went out and picked up a new PSU to tide me over. right now everything seems to be working fine, ill just have to wait and see if it happens...

peace perc,

I guess I'm just lucky because I don't have this problem at all :)
Good luck to all of you who do have the problem :(

I'll be able to do some playing around when my 600w powerstream arrives.

Damn that thing costs a pretty penny here in canada!