Acer changes logo will it help its image, i dont think so... :P

Over in Acer HQ, it's out with the old and in with the new. Having bid ciao to former CEO Gianfranco Lanci, the Taiwanese company is now slapping a fresh coat of paint and a softer typeface upon its corporate identity. The new Acer green is lighter and brighter and the more rounded new shape looks a lot safer for kids to play around with, should the occasion ever arise.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/11/a...-start-afresh/

ok this is just too much Acer cant become a rival for Apple in any world. I know about their Timeline range and while they are very good in both hardware and battery life they dont have an image that can be compared with Apple ever.

Next MSi will start thinking it is the new apple.

Whenever I hear "Acer" I think "Cheap, Low Quality"

Apple's image is in a different league.

i have an acer monitor from 4 years ago
IPS 1920x1200 27", paid 750$ and it still has zero dead pixels, great color and viewing angles. the only drawback might be its not as fast as current, but ive never been bothered by a few ms difference. a 24" of the same quality is still going for nearly 500$ today, so i guess it was a great investment.

how many companies even make their own LCD panels anyway?

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Originally Posted by xsbb

Whenever I hear "Acer" I think "Cheap, Low Quality"

Apple's image is in a different league.

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I would still rather have an Acer though..... I have worked with tons of consumer level pre built computers and Acer IMO is if anything better than HP. At least with Acer you get what you pay for. can hardly say the same about HP....

Acer just released the A500 tablet for preorder- of course we will see

Least ACER builds there own stuff, and not slaps there name on it.

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Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

I would still rather have an Acer though..... I have worked with tons of consumer level pre built computers and Acer IMO is if anything better than HP. At least with Acer you get what you pay for. can hardly say the same about HP....

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i tend to stay away from consumer laptops in general...

My old HP Probook is 4 years old by now and still going strong (gave it to a friend), the new E6410 just finished its first year, it had no issues at all and there are no signs of cracks or other mechanical damage (i carry it almost daily to the university without a sleeve in my messenger bag)

business notebooks last at least 3 times longer than their consumer parts, i think that the 20-30% premium is worth it and i'm not going to buy an acer / stick with Dell, Lenovo or HP until they enter this market :yepp:

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Originally Posted by xsbb

Apple's image is in a different league.

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I agree.

Only Apple can get away with selling £400 PC World Specials for £799.

Only Apple can get away with selling a LG LCD, limit it's connectivity options and then increase it's price by 50%

Only Apple can get away with selling a pad which lacks innovation compared to the competition, yet is also priced £100-150 more than the competition?

Nobody, but Apple can get away with those tactics in the world of IT and Technology.

Although I bet Acer, HP and even Dell would want to try, however Acer are the £400 PC World Specials, which sell for £400 and that is what they will always ever be... (no amount of logo changes will ever change that) ;)

John

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Originally Posted by JohnZS

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I agree.

Only Apple get away with selling £400 PC World Specials for £799.

Only Apple get away with selling a LG LCD, limit it's connectivity options and then increase it's price by 50%

Only Apple get away with selling a pad which lacks innovation compared to the competition, yet is also priced £100-150 more than the competition?

Nobody, but Apple could get away with those tactics in the world of IT and Technology.

Although I bet Acer would want to try, however Acer are the £400 PC World Specials, which sell for £400 and that is what they will always ever be... (no amount of logo changes will ever change that) ;)

John

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apple can only do that since they are a marketing firm and not a tech company.

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Originally Posted by zanzabar

apple can only do that since they are a marketing firm and not a tech company.

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Well said zanzabar :up:

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Originally Posted by zanzabar

apple can only do that since they are a marketing firm and not a tech company.

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This is totally about the truth :):up:

Truth be told

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

i have an acer monitor from 4 years ago
IPS 1920x1200 27", paid 750$ and it still has zero dead pixels, great color and viewing angles. the only drawback might be its not as fast as current, but ive never been bothered by a few ms difference. a 24" of the same quality is still going for nearly 500$ today, so i guess it was a great investment.

how many companies even make their own LCD panels anyway?

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I have the exact opposite experience with my Acer monitor. Dead pixels, monitor died on me 2 times....

not to be an apple fanboy (I'm not, haven't owned anything apple except that copy of iTunes I don't use), but considering that many things apple releases have quite a bit of money/R&D put into things like their cases and enclosures, and, in the case of their phones and ipads, their displays and interfaces, it's not really a wonder their tech costs what it does. other than missing potential heat issues in some of their items, they really do push the boundaries of consumer tech. Maybe more than is necessary. obviously that's why they back it up with the marketing department, to convince the average joe that the apple way is better because of 'x'.

at the heart of it, they're like the bently of the computer world. I know I can get (most) BMWs and Mercs way cheaper and get better performance out of them, but certain bits are polished that bit extra that makes a bently what it is over a BMW or a Merc. obviously not in all cases, i realize that, but seeing what kind of absurd machining went into some of their laptops for the sake of making most of the case a heatsink, it's not a wonder they charge what they do.

(quick, someone make a plastic-interior/cadillac joke)

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Originally Posted by Russian

I have the exact opposite experience with my Acer monitor. Dead pixels, monitor died on me 2 times....

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was it a high cost IPS or just a basic model?

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Originally Posted by generics_user

i tend to stay away from consumer laptops in general...

My old HP Probook is 4 years old by now and still going strong (gave it to a friend), the new E6410 just finished its first year, it had no issues at all and there are no signs of cracks or other mechanical damage (i carry it almost daily to the university without a sleeve in my messenger bag)

business notebooks last at least 3 times longer than their consumer parts, i think that the 20-30% premium is worth it and i'm not going to buy an acer / stick with Dell, Lenovo or HP until they enter this market :yepp:

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whoa I never said I would buy anything from Acer.... i just said I would get one over an HP. As for my choice of laptops. I won't be caught spending the extra on a business laptop.... just by a good XPS or an Asus laptop, treat it right and save yourself a TON of money...

I bought an 11.6" netbook from them with the athlon II K625 cpu X2 1.5ghz with the HD4225. the build quality on it seems top notch to me. for a netbook it was the best cpu one could get at the time. of course it was expensive, but if you want quality then you have to pay for it.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-AS.../dp/B003N3A86C

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Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

whoa I never said I would buy anything from Acer.... i just said I would get one over an HP. As for my choice of laptops. I won't be caught spending the extra on a business laptop.... just by a good XPS or an Asus laptop, treat it right and save yourself a TON of money...

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i like lenovo over asus, they cost the same and they have easy access to heatsinks for the cpu/chipset, gpu and ram/hdd. now u cannot get a gaming lenovo (or maybe u can but not for cheap like an asus) but for general use they are nice.

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Originally Posted by xsbb

Whenever I hear "Acer" I think "Cheap, Low Quality"

Apple's image is in a different league.

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I agree on the acer, but when i hear apple, i hear over priced :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

I agree on the IBM, they make some of the BEST laptops, we use them at work because of their security.

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Originally Posted by sin0822

I agree on the acer, but when i hear apple, i hear over priced :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

I agree on the IBM, they make some of the BEST laptops, we use them at work because of their security.

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I didn't realise IBM still made laptops :eek:

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Originally Posted by JohnZS

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I agree.

Only Apple can get away with selling £400 PC World Specials for £799.

Only Apple can get away with selling a LG LCD, limit it's connectivity options and then increase it's price by 50%

Only Apple can get away with selling a pad which lacks innovation compared to the competition, yet is also priced £100-150 more than the competition?

Nobody, but Apple can get away with those tactics in the world of IT and Technology.

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Competitors Android tablets are going for as much if not more then Apple's. Same goes for other companies laptops that are made to be as thin yet structurally sound (all aluminum construction) as the Macbooks.

Complain about their OS or software restrictions all you want, but the hardware and price for their Phone/Tablet/Notebook market is right there with competitors products of similar quality.

Hardware loyalty makes for invalid opinions.

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Originally Posted by Motiv

I didn't realise IBM still made laptops :eek:

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They don't. You can still find refrubed Thinkpads with C2Ds for under $500 out there. Lenovo now does the Thinkpad series. TheirT410/510s are to die for. There is still a ton of IBM engineering in a Thinkpad.

There is no comparison between a Thinkpad/Probook and any consumer level laptop.

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Originally Posted by Zaskar

Competitors Android tablets are going for as much if not more then Apple's. Same goes for other companies laptops that are made to be as thin yet structurally sound (all aluminum construction) as the Macbooks.

Complain about their OS or software restrictions all you want, but the hardware and price for their Phone/Tablet/Notebook market is right there with competitors products of similar quality.

Hardware loyalty makes for invalid opinions.

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Agree with you completely. Don't like Apple, don't buy there stuff.

But calling the iPad "expensive" compared to the competition is just not correct as I see it. The Xoom, Galaxy Tab and other tablets from big name companies are all in the same price range. Only the small brands are going cheaper, but then you also get very limited software/hardware, Archos I'm looking at you... :yepp:

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Originally Posted by zanzabar

i like lenovo over asus, they cost the same and they have easy access to heatsinks for the cpu/chipset, gpu and ram/hdd. now u cannot get a gaming lenovo (or maybe u can but not for cheap like an asus) but for general use they are nice.

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Lenovo systems are decent but for standard computer Dell wins every day of th week IMO... for myself however I will not use a computer for an extended period of time that cannot play SC2 close to maxed which is one thing I love int he Asus laptops. most of them come with dedicated GPU's for fairly cheap.

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Originally Posted by Zaskar

Competitors Android tablets are going for as much if not more then Apple's. Same goes for other companies laptops that are made to be as thin yet structurally sound (all aluminum construction) as the Macbooks.

Complain about their OS or software restrictions all you want, but the hardware and price for their Phone/Tablet/Notebook market is right there with competitors products of similar quality.

Hardware loyalty makes for invalid opinions.

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however the similarly priced Android unit can run flash which make them infinitely more useful...

however i dunno how accurate that is considering a Moterolla Xoom is cheaper than an Ipad 2 and is faster...

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Originally Posted by xsbb

Whenever I hear "Acer" I think "Cheap, Low Quality"

Apple's image is in a different league.

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Sure is. Whenever I hear "Apple" I think "pretentious fanboy sheep".

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Originally Posted by defect9

not to be an apple fanboy (I'm not, haven't owned anything apple except that copy of iTunes I don't use), but considering that many things apple releases have quite a bit of money/R&D put into things like their cases and enclosures, and, in the case of their phones and ipads, their displays and interfaces, it's not really a wonder their tech costs what it does. other than missing potential heat issues in some of their items, they really do push the boundaries of consumer tech. Maybe more than is necessary. obviously that's why they back it up with the marketing department, to convince the average joe that the apple way is better because of 'x'.

at the heart of it, they're like the bently of the computer world. I know I can get (most) BMWs and Mercs way cheaper and get better performance out of them, but certain bits are polished that bit extra that makes a bently what it is over a BMW or a Merc. obviously not in all cases, i realize that, but seeing what kind of absurd machining went into some of their laptops for the sake of making most of the case a heatsink, it's not a wonder they charge what they do.

(quick, someone make a plastic-interior/cadillac joke)

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No...

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Originally Posted by Zaskar

Competitors Android tablets are going for as much if not more then Apple's. Same goes for other companies laptops that are made to be as thin yet structurally sound (all aluminum construction) as the Macbooks.

Complain about their OS or software restrictions all you want, but the hardware and price for their Phone/Tablet/Notebook market is right there with competitors products of similar quality.

Hardware loyalty makes for invalid opinions.

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Unfortunately Zaskar, with the exception of the rather expensive Samsung Galaxy tablet, that statement does not ring true here in the United Kingdom.

ASUS eEEPad £429

Apple iPad (1) (as 2 is not stocked at this e-tailer yet) £521

Or from a DIFFERENT e-ailer.
Apple iPad 2 (pre-order) £480

John

I think apple and acer for me are same at hw and sw support.
Asus is better then those two.

Knowing this IF i have problem with hw and sw rather go get asus stuf coz better support for sw and hw, i may have on foture.(im not talking one product here)
So i chose asus, instead apple product

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Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

I would still rather have an Acer though..... I have worked with tons of consumer level pre built computers and Acer IMO is if anything better than HP. At least with Acer you get what you pay for. can hardly say the same about HP....

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Truth. HP/Compaq laptops, all that I've seen are super noisy. You're right on the Acer part.

Though tbh, I hate all of today's laptops. Their screens are gloss, the spacings between each dot on the screen is huge enough that you see lines for the keen-eyed without looking for it, and a lot of them can't bend 180.

I can't seem to get the feeling of "this laptop's screen sucks" out whenever I use today's laptop. Someone should raise the standards or I'll have to buy those really expensive laptops.

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Originally Posted by JohnZS

Only Apple can get away with selling a pad which lacks innovation compared to the competition, yet is also priced £100-150 more than the competition?

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the iPad is generally cheaper than the competition, superior battery life and at this point has higher performing chips in it.

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Originally Posted by xlink

the iPad is generally cheaper than the competition, superior battery life and at this point has higher performing chips in it.

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Hw may be cheaper. I dont think appel will go for overclock pcus and system when needet.
Appel software is to buy software.

Anyother HW made, SW is for free as so as developer tools.

this isnt a apple thread so cut the apple crap out! Kinda like the new logo but still 2 plain!!

Don't even see the difference from the old logo
Acer is going down, mark my words

And I predict that ASUS will pick up the useful leftovers once they are broke... won't take too long...

Oh and foxconn will probably take over whatever asus doesn't want or need :D

I don't care, though i'd prefer a more techy looking logo really. Their products are quite good and cheaper than competitors, though their EMEA support is a completely useless joke.

I still adore my Acer G24 monitor, but I dislike everything else they make :p

Their monitors are very decent though.

The image quality and colour intensity on the G24 is beyond impressive for a TN + Film panel, though it was one of the most expensive ones you could get, but I think it was worth the extra price at the time.

Now you can get a better 27" monitor for the same price I paid though :(

true! their displays are actually not bad at all...
or used to be... i havent seen any displays from acer for quite a while here in taiwan :confused:

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And I predict that ASUS will pick up the useful leftovers once they are broke... won't take too long...

Oh and foxconn will probably take over whatever asus doesn't want or need :D

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I dont work in any of those firms.

I believe in that. Shure i got extremly positive personal expirience for me with that situation too. :) I hope you will rank up ppl well for all good :up:
(me speaking as captain,lol :rolleyes: )

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Originally Posted by saaya

Don't even see the difference from the old logo
Acer is going down, mark my words

And I predict that ASUS will pick up the useful leftovers once they are broke... won't take too long...

Oh and foxconn will probably take over whatever asus doesn't want or need :D

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I would not be surprised.

If Acer thinks that they can change the font of their logo and miraculously be on the same level as Apple Corp. in

build quality
consumer perception
customer loyalty

... then their marketing department is way off.


It's as if KIA wants to be like Porsche. Not going to happen. Different demographics, and their reputation is pretty much already set.

Acer is synonymous with the word "low budget"


Acer should stick to what they are good at - giving the masses affordable products at reasonable prices.

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/replied using my Acer "work" laptop

I owned an Acer Aspire One(still works) it was great for an Atom based PC. My AAO had excellent build quality was very inexpensive ($169CAD) and works perfectly to this day. Good computers at reasonable prices.

There's no way a logo change can make Acer into Apple. In order to accomplish that transmogrification Acer would need to persuade the overly moneyed buffoons (typical apple customers) to buy the same mediocre hardware for 2-3x higher prices.

I'm not a Mac hater, I just mourn for Apple computers. Apple isn't dead but undead they've been zombified. I owned the first mac back in '85 and it was awsome. Apple used to make technologically superior computers which is why they dominated the graphic design workstation market now it's the same old :banana::banana::banana::banana: in designer colors bogged down by restrictive proprietary crapware. Apple has swapped innovation for marketing all the while writhing masses of brainless consumers slaver over the colorful turds it :banana::banana::banana::banana:s out.

Not much of a change, just a new color for the most part.

i like acer monitor

Looks like they finally noticed they used a different font for the "e" in Acer, and corrected it. Not newsworthy.

if i didnt read this thread. i never realize logo was changed? is it really changed ???? :D:D:D

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Originally Posted by kromosto

if i didnt read this thread. i never realize logo was changed? is it really changed ???? :D:D:D

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Exactly!

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Originally Posted by Nightstar

I owned an Acer Aspire One(still works) it was great for an Atom based PC. My AAO had excellent build quality was very inexpensive ($169CAD) and works perfectly to this day. Good computers at reasonable prices.

There's no way a logo change can make Acer into Apple. In order to accomplish that transmogrification Acer would need to persuade the overly moneyed buffoons (typical apple customers) to buy the same mediocre hardware for 2-3x higher prices.

I'm not a Mac hater, I just mourn for Apple computers. Apple isn't dead but undead they've been zombified. I owned the first mac back in '85 and it was awsome. Apple used to make technologically superior computers which is why they dominated the graphic design workstation market now it's the same old :banana::banana::banana::banana: in designer colors bogged down by restrictive proprietary crapware. Apple has swapped innovation for marketing all the while writhing masses of brainless consumers slaver over the colorful turds it :banana::banana::banana::banana:s out.

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You gotta admit though, Apple's cases are unmatched in the computer industry. Especially the Mac-Pro tower systems.

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Originally Posted by jimbo75

Sure is. Whenever I hear "Apple" I think "pretentious fanboy sheep".

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QFT lol :D

Apple or how to create needs why you don't need them, and sell PC components overpriced.
And so many people just buying because of the "state of the art" stylish white glossy plastic finish? That's just a bunch of sheep buying loads of marketing BS.

I know acer doesn't make them, but I've found from working on laptops that Acer generally uses the cheapest junkiest laptop OEM for their lower-end laptops and in the past even the midrange. Don't know about higher-end, but I've just learned to stay away from Acer laptops in general and stick with Asus or MSI built units.

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Originally Posted by blindbox

Truth. HP/Compaq laptops, all that I've seen are super noisy. You're right on the Acer part.

Though tbh, I hate all of today's laptops. Their screens are gloss, the spacings between each dot on the screen is huge enough that you see lines for the keen-eyed without looking for it, and a lot of them can't bend 180.

I can't seem to get the feeling of "this laptop's screen sucks" out whenever I use today's laptop. Someone should raise the standards or I'll have to buy those really expensive laptops.

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That's because they all jumped on the pseudo-HD bandwagon, or in other words the crap 1366x768 resolution because it is "HD 720p" - yuck. Since when did we want laptops with screen resolutions virtually equivalent to 8 years ago of 1024x768? :rolleyes: I find it hard to find any decent resolution on a laptop anymore.... That's one reason why I still use my old IBM T60, 15" 1600x1200. Sure it isn't widescreen, but I still have more space than most of today's widescreens :shakes:

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Originally Posted by 01Lude

I bought an 11.6" netbook from them with the athlon II K625 cpu X2 1.5ghz with the HD4225. the build quality on it seems top notch to me. for a netbook it was the best cpu one could get at the time. of course it was expensive, but if you want quality then you have to pay for it.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-AS.../dp/B003N3A86C

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i have bought the same one from costco for my parents to use since its nice and cheap and has HDMI. i consider it a very good buy.

Yeah only douchebags knock Acer laptops considering what they've been up to; About a year ago they started releasing full blown gaming laptops (note laptops not pointless desktop replacements) with fast cpus and videocards for around $600, this was unprecedented and to this day no one can touch those great HD5650 budget gamers for $600~

Needless to say I own one and the overall quality, fit and finish is much higher and design sleeker/cleaner than you will get on any Asus, Dell, HP or whatever granted its not one of their pretentious overpriced underpowered specialty laptops. After a year I still love mine. I just hope this new turn isn't going to get to Acer's head, from this topic heading it seems so :-\

Ewwwwww, well glad i got my projector already without that ugly ass lime green:ROTF: