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I'm trying to decide between these two SB boards. Thee only main differences are the Power system with Asus Digi+ and the USB 3.0 chip (Asus has NEC, and GB has Renesas)
Im leaning toward the Asus but Im concerned about wavering BIOS support.
Thoughts, opinions?
The asus has 2 extra sata ports and a possibly better layout with a 3rd 16x pcie slot, thats the only differences i see between them and of course that bios.
If they're both the same price i'd probably go for the asus.
total bsQuote:
Originally Posted by flutie98
I don't think either VRM will be the bottleneck in OCing: both are quite sufficient for what you can achieve on SBs considering they don't scale well sub-zero.
I'm myself considering the P8P67 PRO or EVO over Gigabyte's UD4 or UD5 because of a few things:
- 2 extra internal SATA 6Gb/s from the Marvell controller.
- Intel NIC: PRO has it only, EVO pairs it with another Realtek chip. UD4 and UD5 both have a single Realtek chip.
- 2 PWM-controllable connectors: the SYS_FAN3 header on the UD4 and UD5, according to the manual, has the 4th pin but doesn't use. It is marked "Reserved", while on the CPU_FAN header it's labeled "Speed Control".
- Integrated Bluetooth. Not a must, but nice, I'd use it eventually.
- UEFI. But hopefully Gigabyte will correct that omission soon enough.
- PRO has extra PCI-E x16-as-x4 slot over UD4. Both UD5 and EVO have it. All share it with the PCI-E x1 slots.
But:
- UD4 and UD5's eSATA ports are 6Gb/s powered by the Marvell chip. ASUS chose to route internally and use a JMicron chip for 3Gb/s eSATA ports instead. (BTW, are there any eSATA 6Gb/s devices available yet?)
- The UD5 has 4 USB 3.0 ports on its IO Panel. Both the PRO and EVO have only 2.
- UD4 and UD5 are completely black. I like it.
I didn't want to have to shell out the extra $20 for the EVO because I don't actually need dual-Gigabit, but I'd miss the power, reset and clear CMOS switches quite a bit.
i would wait to see who is having better bios support
asus bios support is :down: lately
maybe they will get better with p67
but for 1366 it has been :down:
Giga ud7 :up:
I'm Considering a MSI P67-GD65 myself. Its a bit more expensive then a UD4 but way less compared to a UD5. But had similar / better features then the UD5.
There will also be a GD80 later.
Never liked Asus boards my best Asus board was a A7V266-E after that i never liked any of them. I did like my last two GA boards. And the DFi boards. But i'm gonna try something new this time. Only have had a 780g AMD MSI board but that worked very well.
I liked the GD65 too, but I'm a bit of a nitpickerQuote:
Originally Posted by Astennu
- No PCI-E x4 slot
- A single PWM header (but 4 extra 3-pin headers, makes up for it a bit)
- A single USB 2.0 header (I need 4 USB ports on the front of the case, no idea why MSI couldn't include a second header :confused:)
- The specs don't list DDR3-1866 like all other manufacturers do for some reason. Hopefully it was just an oversight, and the divider is actually usable.
As long as it's reasonably priced it will be a great option :clap:
It also has a USB3.0 header total of 4x USB3.0. Maybe thats why it only has a single USB2.0?Quote:
Originally Posted by danielkza
I will lookinto that 1866 support.
As for the price. over here its 165 for a GD65 and 240 euro's for a UD5.
Ok it got feedback from MSI its a error on the website:
http://media.msi.com/main.php?g2_vie...serialNumber=2
Edit: Link to the PDF:
http://media.msi.com/main.php?g2_vie...2_itemId=57833
Edit2: More mem info on the GD65: http://eu.msi.com/uploads/test_report/TR10_2225.pdf
Also supports: 1800/1866/2000/2133/2200/2250/2300/2333
Yeah, but unfortunately neither my case nor my crappy fan-controller-with-USB-ports support USB.3.0. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Astennu
And indeed for the price the MSIs are awesome: the GD55 is a bargain for $160 if you don't care about eSATA.
Thanks for the help guys, Im deff on the Asus over the GB just for the intel ethernet and internal USB3 header. But of course now that MSI is looking like a damn good deal.... Ive NEVER used an MSI board before, hows the support?
Pro & Evo have a USB 3.0 bracket as accessorie so they have also total 4 USB3.0 Slots :)Quote:
Originally Posted by danielkza
EFI from MSI sucks, looks line a anime with sounds and laggy :(
I'm a big fan of Gigabyte, and my last 3 boards have all been Gigabyte. This time i'm going with Asus but not the P8P67 Pro, i'll be after a P8P67 Deluxe.
IMO, the Asus boards have better features, Intel lan is one, USB3 front box is another, PLX chip on the Deluxe, Bluetooth, UEFI BIOS. The list is long. :)
The UD5 has 4 in the back panel + 2 headers for an extra 4 ports. But what you could use 8 USB 3.0 for is beyond my comprehension.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
I've been using the MSI P45 Neo-F for the last two years. It's a not a high-end board, but it was quite cheap, and I have a single complaint so far: the latest BIOS has problems with S3, but it had no relevant changes, so I just reverted to the previous version and everything went back to normal.Quote:
Originally Posted by flutie98
I haven't done any extreme OCing, just running my E7300 at 3.6-3.8GHz daily, and it did quite well at that. Also, the Stereo Out port on the back doesn't work anymore, but I suspect it has something to do with me switching devices at least 3 times a day :rofl:
How is Asus P8P67 Deluxe vs the evo ? the look the same.
The Deluxe has 16 phase power, and the PLX8608 PLX PCIe controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleRock
The EVO doesn't have the PLX chip, and i think it is a 12 phase design.
The Deluxe also has the Marvell 9128 SATA 6Gbps, while the EVO uses a Marvell 9120 SATA 6Gbps.
They both of course have Intel native SATA 6Gbps via P67.
@ EagleRock
visit the asus homepage, put both boards into compare list and compare them ;) :D
I like the layout on asus boards much better than Gigabyte, but after my experience with the rex3 it will be a cold day in hell before they get another dollar from me. Will look around and see what comes out, or go with the Giga UD7 despite the not so great layout.
For me it is between the Gigabyte UD4 and the Asus EVO. "they are the same price in EU"
then buy the EVO...
better bios (EFI), better equipment (more SATA, Dual GB Lan incl. Intel NIC, USB3.0 bracket) etc.
just got the Asus P67 Pro, has the multiplier problems been fixed?
Asus and better bios...... I dont trust Asus anymore. Bios might be better looking. If you ask me EFI is overrated :). Its a nice extra but i dont need a better looking bios or mouse support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
I would rather buy a GA, MSi or DFi board then a ASUS.
Believe it has, 52x multi now with a new bios fix.. IIRC f6x?Quote:
Originally Posted by HelixPC
i returned the asus, got the gigabyte, and man, this is one sexy board, it has a matte black finish pcb, its one great looking product, gigabyte went from ugly yellow, red blue boards to this black beauty, good job gigabyte. :clap:
you can get the bios updates here
for max clocking download F6x bios for UD4, i assume thats what you bought
http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post270423
you'll need this app to flash it
http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList...gbt_atbios.exe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Astennu
BS, UFEI compared to traditional BIOS boots 5-10 seconds quicker. It goes more than mouse support. More future proof and 3TB HDD bootable GPT support.
I read it in a review of the new motherboard but I can't find it anymore.
I got for MAximus :)...next 14 days and next PC :-).
Well i said it wrong i ment the new UI options are no must. The faster bood and bigger disk support are very welcome. But i was fine with the older dos style bios interfaces. But i dont mind the extra GFX.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnihilatorX
Only Gigabyte still use classic style BIOS ???
Well not for long, Dinos mentioned there working on it!Quote:
Originally Posted by PatRaceTin
We're in no rush, if you're picking boards based on how pretty bios looks, i wonder if there is something else you'd like to share with us :D
:rofl: Good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Yea, to me as long as the bios is solid and offerrs the "good stuff" I don't care if they do it in Braille!:ROTF:
true that, been with the current bios for 15 odd years, another few days isnt gonna hurt :D