X56xx locked Uncore has been unlocked

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05-08-2010, 12:03 PM
Sam_oslo

X56xx locked Uncore has been unlocked

The locked x20 Uncore needs a lot of VVT, and has always been the limiting factor for OCing my X5650. The latest BIOS-F7f for GA-X58A-UD7 (which adds Intel's new micro code patch) has unlocked it :)

I've just flashed to this new BIOS, and haven't tested the stability yet, but I couldn't even log into w7 @4GHZ with VVT<1.38v. Now i can sett the Uncore to 16x and it seams really promising. Going to test further and report back.

X5650 @4.31GHZ(196x22) 1.34v , VVT=1.30v :p:
http://img.techpowerup.org/100508/Capture007138.jpg
05-08-2010, 12:22 PM
tool_462

Darn, don't think the latest beta BIOS for UD5 unlocks it :( Good to know it can be done though! Hopefully soon.

Any higher max stable OC?
05-08-2010, 12:42 PM
Movieman

Interesting but Sam,whats' with that SP1m time?
Man that is BAD!:confused:
05-08-2010, 12:49 PM
Sam_oslo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Interesting but Sam,whats' with that SP1m time?
Man that is BAD!:confused:

Yes indeed :) but that's the hyperPI1M-time. Still is a bad time, but nothing is optimized. I think the MEM was acing strange under that run, and I need to work more on it. It was just a quick and first run.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool_462

Darn, don't think the latest beta BIOS for UD5 unlocks it :( Good to know it can be done though! Hopefully soon.

Any higher max stable OC?

I've always had faith this would happen one day. :) I haven't tried max yet, but got right into this with VVT=1.32v :). Voltages are not optimized, still testing.
http://img.techpowerup.org/100508/Capture013810.jpg
05-08-2010, 12:54 PM
Movieman

Sam;
Ahh ok on SP1m..:up:
I'm happy for you pal,and only you understand what I mean.:up:

Oh, and fixed your title..
Not 65xx but 56xx...:rofl:
05-08-2010, 01:40 PM
Sam_oslo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Sam;
Ahh ok on SP1m..:up:
I'm happy for you pal,and only you understand what I mean.:up:

Oh, and fixed your title..
Not 65xx but 56xx...:rofl:

I know what you mean pal :).

I guess I got too excited for sharing the good news . A superPi1M-run just for you for fixing the tittle :)

http://img.techpowerup.org/100508/Capture014323.jpg
05-08-2010, 01:51 PM
Movieman

Very nice!:up:
05-08-2010, 01:56 PM
=[PULSAR]=

What cooling do you have on your 5650's now oslo?
05-08-2010, 03:05 PM
Sam_oslo

Quote:

Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=

What cooling do you have on your 5650's now oslo?

On air, Noctua NHD14 using the stock fans a NF-P12 + a NF-P14 push/pull.
Just a quick Prime-run to test the temp, and it looks promising, but I have to test and optimize more.

X5650 @4.2GHz(210x20) 1.32v , VVT=1.30v :)
http://img.techpowerup.org/100508/Capture015.jpg
05-08-2010, 03:18 PM
=[PULSAR]=

Looks like 4.4ghz should be easily attainable on water :clap:
05-08-2010, 03:48 PM
Sam_oslo

Quote:

Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=

Looks like 4.4ghz should be easily attainable on water :clap:

I believe so :), and maybe even more. The VVT-limitation is gone and the only limitation seams to be vCore/cooling now.
These fast tests shows it can run SuperPi32M @4.4GHz(220x20) 1.38v and VVT=1.34v :). It seams to be stable too, but I didn't have time to test it throughly. I guess the same VVT=1.34v could do @4.84GHz(220x22) too, but it needs more vCore and one needs really good cooling for that.
05-08-2010, 03:51 PM
=[PULSAR]=

After my 980x dying with 1.4vcore and stock vtt I'll probably keep my limited to 1.35vcore on water.
05-08-2010, 04:19 PM
Sam_oslo

Yeah, I see what you mean. I personally will be really happy with anything over @4GHz for 24/7 use. This 6C/12T has been a monster even @3.8GHz.

It is fun to find the limits too, but The 24/7 OC is more about finding the sweet spot, than the edge. It is not everyday one discovers @4MHz extra OC and then it is fun to play around for short runs.
05-08-2010, 10:24 PM
Blauhung

Quote:

Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=

After my 980x dying with 1.4vcore and stock vtt I'll probably keep my limited to 1.35vcore on water.

hehe, I'm glad I backed mine off them. was running 4.5GHz @ 1.425v and 1.35Vtt. Now I'm down to 4.32GHz and 1.375Vcore, probably can lower the voltage too.
05-09-2010, 05:31 AM
jcool

Great news, now we need this unlock on other boards as well.
05-09-2010, 05:50 AM
Sam_oslo

Yeah, this is really good news. This happen when they added Intel's new microcode patch for 32nm to the BIOS-F7f for GA-UD7, so I guess it will happen to other MBs too, soon hopefully.

There is more good news. According to CDIPD HM the CPU is using only 77.5W after disabling the turbo :) , it was reporting 113W with turbo.

I'll try to get this, or something close to it 24/7 stable, with VVT=1.32v :)
http://img.techpowerup.org/100509/Capture022.jpg
05-09-2010, 01:09 PM
cdolphin

I am dubious of those figures, the TDP is 120W I thought?
05-09-2010, 01:13 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdolphin

I am dubious of those figures, the TDP is 120W I thought?

TDP I beleive on a X5650 is 95w
130W on the top X5680
05-09-2010, 01:35 PM
Sam_oslo

Yeah, the TDP for X5650 is 95w, at stock with turbo.
Turning off the turbo will always reduce it, but 77.5W with vCore=1.28v(load) is actually too good to believe, I hope and believe it is right tho.
05-09-2010, 03:07 PM
Sam_oslo

Have been testing the TDP under prime-load, and interestingly it is less with x19 multi than x20, at the same frequency and same vCore.

4.1GHz (216x19) 1.28v , CDIPD HM reporting =77.66W
4.1GHz (205x20) 1.28v , CDIPD HM reporting =95.00W

Just couple of short runs to see the TDP under prime-load:

4.1GHz (216x19) 1.28v , 77.66W
http://img.techpowerup.org/100509/Capture023.jpg

4.1GHZ(205x20) 1.28v , 95.00W
http://img.techpowerup.org/100509/Capture024.jpg
05-10-2010, 02:39 AM
Sam_oslo

And BCLK221:D with VVT=1.34v :), so far so good

http://img.techpowerup.org/100510/Capture025987.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/100510/Capture027.jpg
05-10-2010, 03:59 PM
jcool

You know, I'm still running an old EX58-Extreme with my X5680. There is a test bios (F13c) from April 20th that says "Update CPU Microcode"... think it may unlock my uncore mult as well?
Not that I'd need it, of course.. still, curious!
05-10-2010, 04:03 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

You know, I'm still running an old EX58-Extreme with my X5680. There is a test bios (F13c) from April 20th that says "Update CPU Microcode"... think it may unlock my uncore mult as well?
Not that I'd need it, of course.. still, curious!

Go fo rit..and I wonder if the newest bios will work on the GB X 58 UD4 I have here with a X5677 in it..:D
05-10-2010, 04:24 PM
Sam_oslo

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

You know, I'm still running an old EX58-Extreme with my X5680. There is a test bios (F13c) from April 20th that says "Update CPU Microcode"... think it may unlock my uncore mult as well?
Not that I'd need it, of course.. still, curious!

Yeah, give it a shot. Hopefully they got it.

On UD7, they said the microcode was added before, but somehow it wasn't exactly successful. They got it right with BIOS-F7f (released 16.April...) finally, and it says "Update CPU Microcode"... too. Your BIOS date is indication that it will unlock the Uncore, hopefully.
The new microcode makes other improvements to 32nm too, so it is a good idea to get it, even if your X5680 doesn't need unlocked Uncore.
05-11-2010, 06:28 AM
Sam_oslo

Have been testing with x16 Uncore until now, but since the Uncore is unloked and 32nm has introduced the Uncore>=1.5xRAM rule, so why not trying x15 Uncore?
It got right into BCLK221 :D with VVT=1.30v :)

RAM x8
Uncore x15
I'm still testing and don't know who stable it really is, but so far so good:

@4.2GHZ(221x19) 1.31v, VVT=1.30v :)
http://img.techpowerup.org/100511/Capture033982.jpg
05-11-2010, 06:46 AM
eva2000

nice congrats - knew you've been waiting for this for a while!

any cpu tweaker screens to accompany the results ?
05-11-2010, 08:16 AM
Sam_oslo

Thx :) yeah I've been waiting for this to happen.
This is the latest shot i got, without a CPU-tweaker, but I add it under with same settings, just for you.

This is not final, just trying to get a feel of Uncore and VVT-need for this baby, and this looks promising, but still testing ..

RAM x8
Uncore x15
@4.2GHz (221x19) 1.31v, VVT=1.32v :)
http://img.techpowerup.org/100511/Capture034.jpg
CPU-tweaker shot for the same setup.
http://img.techpowerup.org/100511/Capture040402.jpg
05-19-2010, 02:58 PM
Chri$ch

On my Rampage II Extreme is it also unlocked with latest beta bios.

default uncore multiplier is x20

http://www.abload.de/img/unlockeduncore29k6z.png
05-19-2010, 03:03 PM
Movieman

Uncore also unlocked on my GB X58 UD4 board with latest BIOS..F13
05-19-2010, 03:15 PM
Sam_oslo

Great news :). I guess almost all MBs are going to unlock the Uncore now.

x16 Uncore makes X56xx to OC much better, and much more fun to play with.
05-19-2010, 04:04 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

Great news :). I guess almost all MBs are going to unlock the Uncore now.

x16 Uncore makes X56xx to OC much better, and much more fun to play with.

Now if I can get this on the SR2 board LOOK OUT WORLD! :rofl:
05-19-2010, 04:26 PM
l0ud_sil3nc3

wtf? I still don't have an unlocked bios on my X58A UD3R and I just noticed they released a new rev of that board, I wonder if it has been fixed in that bios.
05-20-2010, 06:51 AM
Sam_oslo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Now if I can get this on the SR2 board LOOK OUT WORLD! :rofl:

That would make the day! That's actually there these CPUs will show their real muscles.

SR-2 retail probably comes with new microcode, but otherwise won't take long before getting, I think.
05-20-2010, 10:35 AM
lgustavomp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri$ch

On my Rampage II Extreme is it also unlocked with latest beta bios.

default uncore multiplier is x20

http://www.abload.de/img/unlockeduncore29k6z.png

Were did you find that bios to download, my friend? I can't find it on google.
05-20-2010, 12:18 PM
Chri$ch

you can´t find it because it isn´t online ;)

got it from asus germany, don´t have the permission to share it.
05-20-2010, 12:19 PM
l0ud_sil3nc3

I saw a new beta bios for my board today after checking this post and I installed it only to find out that they still have not fixed the uncore multiplier issue:mad:
09-06-2010, 01:23 PM
Grinchy

well maybe you can't share your bios but surely you can tell how you managed to obtain it... :)
after several months that bios is not yet out and rampage II extreme is still stuck with a locked multi
09-06-2010, 06:03 PM
l0ud_sil3nc3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grinchy

well maybe you can't share your bios but surely you can tell how you managed to obtain it... :)
after several months that bios is not yet out and rampage II extreme is still stuck with a locked multi

What stepping is your chip? B0 or B1?

I am pretty sure they have unlocked the uncore on the B1's but not the B0's so check that first.
09-07-2010, 06:21 AM
Johnny87au

am i reading ur screenshots right, higher multi equals more tdp? or was that idle then load? hehe.. Also can i suggest.. The xeon chips can run way higher imc frequency :)
09-07-2010, 06:51 AM
Grinchy

Quote:

Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3

What stepping is your chip? B0 or B1?

I am pretty sure they have unlocked the uncore on the B1's but not the B0's so check that first.

just checked with the latest revision of cpu-z an dit 's a B1 rev.
Something weird happens. I tested the cpu with an EVGA sr-2 with A46 bios and when i change the value of the uncore multi in the bios it wonìt show the edited value in cpu-z in windows but it seems that anyway it is changed :confused:
Infact if i set 16 x uncore multi in bios it won't boot, while if i go down to 12x it would boot and be stable.
On the RIIE with 1802 bios, changing the value of uncore multi not only doesn't lead to cpu-z reading the edited value in win7 but also doesn't effectively change it, so it is an even worst than sr-2 situation. So it would be nice if you enlightened us on the procedure you followed to obtain that 1910 beta bios ;)

This is the first time i am disappointed by this wonderful Asus mb :(
09-07-2010, 06:59 AM
Grinchy

Quote:

Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=

After my 980x dying with 1.4vcore and stock vtt I'll probably keep my limited to 1.35vcore on water.

that sonds like a faulty cpu or a constantly overheated one...1.35 is still within Intel specs for vcore/vtt and consider you should have some vdrop,so a death of too high vcore seems unlikely in your case :(
09-07-2010, 07:04 AM
Grinchy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

Thx :) yeah I've been waiting for this to happen.
This is the latest shot i got, without a CPU-tweaker, but I add it under with same settings, just for you.

This is not final, just trying to get a feel of Uncore and VVT-need for this baby, and this looks promising, but still testing ..

RAM x8
Uncore x15
@4.2GHz (221x19) 1.31v, VVT=1.32v :)
http://img.techpowerup.org/100511/Capture034.jpg
CPU-tweaker shot for the same setup.
http://img.techpowerup.org/100511/Capture040402.jpg

You have the hottest core 13°hotter than your coolest ? that's a variance!:eek:
09-07-2010, 07:17 AM
Sam_oslo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grinchy

You have the hottest core 13°hotter than your coolest ? that's a variance!:eek:

Sensors on Westmere ES are known for being off, but it varies a good deal depending on the chip. My A0's on SR-2 are not showing a biug difference tho.
09-09-2010, 04:50 AM
Grinchy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

Sensors on Westmere ES are known for being off, but it varies a good deal depending on the chip. My A0's on SR-2 are not showing a biug difference tho.

Yes that thing about sensors is true , but most of the times it is the way tim is applied and or pressure of the HS on the die.
Anyway that's a good BCLCK :)
did you try some serious cpu stress testing (like IBT maxed out)?
01-27-2014, 04:03 PM
rezax58

I just picked this up, going to be mating it to my x58-ud7. Any tips?

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