thuban mem controller testing

chew* tested mother approved


1600c6 corsair kit


http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7403/1600c63.th.jpg




corsair sticks

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2000+ CAS 7 :clap:

what about m4a89td pro? what about other boards with 890FX, C4F is not the only one out there.

damn that latency is off the charts.

woohoo.. nice IMC! thuban is a great buy :up:

so 2000c8 or 1600c6 is the kit to get?

edit: also what vdimm?

That's what I wanted to see!
I think I've waited long enough on DDR2 to make my switch worthwhile!
I just hope my new memory sticks from G.Skill Ripjaws series will play along nicely (2000MHz 9-9-9 1.6V).

Thanks for sharing msimax:up:

Does this improved IMC mean Thuban might compete for globals in 3D at hwbot? Man I really wanna see some ln2 benches from AMD enthusiast.

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what about m4a89td pro? what about other boards with 890FX, C4F is not the only one out there.

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Did not realize it was a requirement for me to buy/test every board out there........

Now I have been busy with stuff so no reviews from me this time around.......see what i have been working on in a couple days.

For reference the above results were done on a stock cooler....

no offence chew* but that is true. every one is showing off with C4F and it looks like it's the one and only board for AMD. but it is not. it's boring to see only one thing in several threads. (hope i did not make fatal mistakes when i wrote this, i'm foreign guy)

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no offence chew* but that is true. every one is showing off with C4F and it looks like it's the one and only board for AMD. but it is not. it's boring to see only one thing in several threads. (hope i did not make fatal mistakes when i wrote this, i'm foreign guy)

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chew* my man:)

Keep smiling and try not to take this stuff personally my friend. Almost like back in the day when we were breaking news with new chips, always on Abit boards ;)

And why...they performed pretty damn well. Then it was DFI for AMD. I've grown pretty close to these Asus boards myself the last few years, and the Crosshair III is pretty darn good, especially at 3D. I too have a Crosshair IV waiting for a Thuban.

Fellas, it may be that the Asus, being available early out the gate, can account for the many early benches. I'm sure Gigabyte(also very good) and the others will be making their fair share of bench showings...patience my friends:D

Best regards,

Randi:D

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Did not realize it was a requirement for me to buy/test every board out there........

Now I have been busy with stuff so no reviews from me this time around.......see what i have been working on in a couple days.

For reference the above results were done on a stock cooler....

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chew*, I hate to say it but can you (guys) put a 555BE in that board and test the memory controller?

A few months back coolaler posted some 1000+ results on this board and I believe they were done on a 555BE. The only reason I'm saying this and other people are asking about other boards is because the Crosshair seems to be a star at clocking RAM. The title is kind of misleading if that be true.

Thanks msimax and chew* things are looking up.:) Can't wait to get my hand on a 1090T and a Crosshair IV Extreme :D

I think you did a great job there. That board seems tempting. So does the x6 :p:

Thanks for sharing.

TBH mem clocks vary from board to board.......I have tested many.....the C4F is one of the most mature atm........

Working with many boards atm and trying to help with tuning best I can say....

Rather not have my results compared to others as while there focus is on "2000" ram speeds my focus has always been and always will be Tight timings for max performance.......if i lose max clocks due to trying to get tightest latencies so be it.....I refuse to post some 10-10-10/9-9-9 crud however.

My only goal was to put "timings" out there that i worked out for hypers for end users :)

Will be benching on a few boards in the next few days, we shall see how they far as well......

As Randi stated......not all boards have been available right off the bat.....not all boards are dialed in yet.....I like using what works....this board seems to be one of the currently tuned in boards.

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Rather not have my results compared to others as while there focus is on "2000" ram speeds my focus has always been and always will be Tight timings for max performance.......if i lose max clocks due to trying to get tightest latencies so be it.....I refuse to post some 10-10-10/9-9-9 crud however.

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seems like you should build your own benchmarking program to show how many chew points peoples memory settings are worth, since you clearly know that performance is not just mhz, but tweaking, o and volts, lol

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Rather not have my results compared to others as while there focus is on "2000" ram speeds my focus has always been and always will be Tight timings for max performance.......if i lose max clocks due to trying to get tightest latencies so be it.....I refuse to post some 10-10-10/9-9-9 crud however.

My only goal was to put "timings" out there that i worked out for hypers for end users :)

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I concur 100% on this point with chew*:)

Since back in the day, AMD has always thrived on the tightest timings possible as high in Mhz as feasible at the tight timings. Running at 2000Mhz 9-9-9 or 10-10-10 on AMD is only bragging window dressing, if you bench 3D with that you WILL get spanked by the guy running high NB and 1750ish 6-6-6. You will get spanked trying to run any memory intensive bench where low latency and overall system Mhz rules.

Don't get caught up in the high memory Mhz game just yet, until the memory manufacturers find a way to reduce latency at the higher Mhz.

Best regards,

Randi:D

I like that !:clap:

I tried the same settings as yours last night, Chew*
And I couldn't deny that the MB & its' 0707 bios ( not sure if you were using that bios) impressed me a lot

Let's see what other 890FX MBs can do then;)

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Rather not have my results compared to others as while there focus is on "2000" ram speeds my focus has always been and always will be Tight timings for max performance.......if i lose max clocks due to trying to get tightest latencies so be it.....I refuse to post some 10-10-10/9-9-9 crud however.

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I would also like to see the older phenom II chips put in these new 890 boards and see if the same mem clocks for Thuban can apply on Deneb. With the results that i have seen with Thuban it would appear that AMD did some pretty good performance increases to the IMC for DDR3. People seem to be able to handle higher NB with less volts and in turn able to clock some nice DDR3 speeds close to 2000mhz with what appears to be relative ease. I would like to know if indeed Thuban is better memory wise or is it the new chipsets that are making for higher mem clocks.

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I like that !:clap:

I tried the same settings as yours last night, Chew*
And I couldn't deny that the MB & its' 0707 bios ( not sure if you were using that bios) impressed me a lot

Let's see what other 890FX MBs can do then;)

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Bios in screen shot......was not 0707

OMG :shocked: I must change my presbyopic glasses:rofl:
0405 not bad @ all:yepp:

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Bios in screen shot......was not 0707

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With the results that i have seen with Thuban it would appear that AMD did some pretty good performance increases to the IMC for DDR3. People seem to be able to handle higher NB with less volts and in turn able to clock some nice DDR3 speeds close to 2000mhz with what appears to be relative ease. I would like to know if indeed Thuban is better memory wise or is it the new chipsets that are making for higher mem clocks.

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For sure the IMC has been improved in Thuban. Before I had to bump up CPU-NB voltage to a minimum of 1.35v just to even get anything remotely stable on my previous 920, 550, 555 processors. Since I've been trying to find a good OC, while still keeping total wattage lower, I was surprised in my findings that I did not even need to have my CPU-NB voltage as high anymore. I think it's at 1.2v now.

I can even boot my NB at over 3GHz on Air, whereas on previous processors it would instantaneously blue screen.

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what about m4a89td pro? what about other boards with 890FX, C4F is not the only one out there.

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M4A89GTD Pro: 1880CL7+, memtest stable. 2000CL7 single channel was also memtest stable. Didn't test further.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1272442007

THX! this is sick :) new asus boards and you will get ~2000MHz :)

damn nice MassMan.

FYI, also tested the Gigabyte 890GX board, but memory couldn't even pass 1750CL9. There were some issues with the bios.

Chew:
help me a bit please, which board? Crosshair IV or MA890FXA-UD7 ? have u some trouble with BIOS? No vdrop?We have in Czech Crosshair IV now, but UD7 not. So, i can still waiting for UD7 or can take Crosshair IV?:) Thx.

MSIMAX possible to take a screenie of the bios settings... my CH IV and Thuban ES only are willing to give me 1900mhz on the rams... tried 4 biosses already... 965BE goes up to 1920Mhz C7 pretty easily :(

WOW, DDR2000 SMASHED :D

MrIcee, does this mean we can expect a return from you?:yepp:

And Brian, do these boards do a "true" CAS6? I remember you telling me that MSI's GD70 was doing well with newer BIOSs and CAS6 because other latencies were increased.

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WOW, DDR2000 SMASHED :D

MrIcee, does this mean we can expect a return from you?:yepp:

And Brian, do these boards do a "true" CAS6? I remember you telling me that MSI's GD70 was doing well with newer BIOSs and CAS6 because other latencies were increased.

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MrIcee has almost fully re-equipped his test bench with the latest and greatest:D

I'm hoping by this weekend to be doing R + D testing on a CH4 and a 1090T. I have a 965BE and 555BE also for those that may want results.The last few weeks I've set up a CH3 and 965BE to get re-aquainted with the current AMD platform. Much has changed since my days testing on Abit and DFI:) Thank yous to chew* for his insights and assistance. Getting my feet on the ground here and running, tho these fellas clocking with LN2 are beyond my scope right now. I'll be starting with my old custom watercooler and vid card chiller, and also have a 404A modded Prommy. So my results should reflect what the average guy on watercooling can expect. I'm gearing up for 3D too, with a pair of Asus 5870 V2's ready to go.

I'm ready to start having fun again after a very long abscence!

Best regards,

Randi:D

I look forward to your return :D

What's next? OPPINTER? macci? JCViggen (4GHz eight or so years ago)? MickeyMouse (one of the pioneers of LN2 pots)? Tom Holck (Mr. Cascade on drugs)? Captain Cascade? Digital Jesus (did he ever return after being called out about his 01 results or whatever?)? cpulloverclock (he was awesome with 939)? The guy whose avatar was a jumping cat with lasers coming out of its eyes :D And finally you. You were a legend on 462:clap:

Really really good times:yepp:

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MSIMAX possible to take a screenie of the bios settings... my CH IV and Thuban ES only are willing to give me 1900mhz on the rams... tried 4 biosses already... 965BE goes up to 1920Mhz C7 pretty easily :(

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Leeg those were my runs i'm busy had msi post them for me.

Sorry what you see is what you get for timings......Use memtest, best i can say is versus 7-7-6-19-27 my optimized runs are 3 secs faster in 32m no tweaks.

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WOW, DDR2000 SMASHED :D

MrIcee, does this mean we can expect a return from you?:yepp:

And Brian, do these boards do a "true" CAS6? I remember you telling me that MSI's GD70 was doing well with newer BIOSs and CAS6 because other latencies were increased.

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from my testing the performance at 2000+ is not optimal or where i think it should be but it is faster than my previous stuff at cas 6 at same speed on previous boards so not what i would say artificial......If it was I would not have bothered posting it.

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Leeg those were my runs i'm busy had msi post them for me.

Sorry what you see is what you get for timings......Use memtest, best i can say is versus 7-7-6-19-27 my optimized runs are 3 secs faster in 32m no tweaks.

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Hehehe Brian ; testing 1980 now (quits around loop 20 each time :mad:), I just switched the rams to the other dimm slots... was shocked that 1960Mhz went just like that...Really wondering how Gary got 4dimms working at them speeds... super tweaking !

looks like you guys are warming up already! Can't wait to see and learn what you'll be doing this weekend with that new AMD puppy! Wonder if Fugger is going to wear a turban on Friday ;) :D

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FYI, also tested the Gigabyte 890GX board, but memory couldn't even pass 1750CL9. There were some issues with the bios.

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good news is we ran some 32m on UD7 and iirc 1900 tight was fine.

Have one all prepped up for ln2 :)

I just saw DDR2100 and a crash at DDR2160 :eek:

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I just saw DDR2100 and a crash at DDR2160 :eek:

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I can 1m alot higher.....didn't waste my time or end users.

How high are we talking? Because DDR2000 and above is unheard of on AMD (until now).

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How high are we talking? Because DDR2000 and above is unheard of on AMD (until now).

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well above 2100 at those tight timings.....32m is a much diff story even at 10-10-10 wall was present. Wall around 2050 very simlar to the previous wall i tore down at 1904.....when i have the time I will see if it's a hardwall or a wall that can be massaged past.

So demand 32m or it's useless and misleading ;)

whau, good, UD7 looks simillary as Crosshair IV for OC ?

DDR2100 was benchable but at rubbish timings (non Elpida RAM, it was CAS9 I think). The better controller might be the biggest reason for me to move :D

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Hehehe Brian ; testing 1980 now (quits around loop 20 each time :mad:), I just switched the rams to the other dimm slots... was shocked that 1960Mhz went just like that...Really wondering how Gary got 4dimms working at them speeds... super tweaking !

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My head hurts and my MasterCard is begging for mercy. :D The IMC is going to make a huge difference. So far, my best CPU (ES or Retail) is a random 1055T from Amazon that I bought for my son's system and now he will never see it. :rofl: I sent you settings to try and of course this requires some Corsair GTX2 kits.

Also, we have a couple of memory tables left to fine tune for efficiency but with BIOS 0707, be sure to set HT manually (as high as possible) to ensure best possible write speeds as the tables flip above 1800 and HT on auto will fall back to under 2000. In an early beta release, 8GB at 2000 is working but efficiency at 1600 is still much better at this point.

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Also, we have a couple of memory tables left to fine tune for efficiency but with BIOS 0707, be sure to set HT manually (as high as possible) to ensure best possible write speeds as the tables flip above 1800 and HT on auto will fall back to under 2000.

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QFT:up:

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FYI, also tested the Gigabyte 890GX board, but memory couldn't even pass 1750CL9. There were some issues with the bios.

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Hmm...

Can I ask what bios? I just booted into windows @ 1775 CL7 on my Gigabyte 890GX board and I'm currently at loop 6 in 32M :confused:

It's Micron GTS @ 2.0v :shrug:

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Also, we have a couple of memory tables left to fine tune for efficiency but with BIOS 0707, be sure to set HT manually (as high as possible) to ensure best possible write speeds as the tables flip above 1800 and HT on auto will fall back to under 2000. In an early beta release, 8GB at 2000 is working but efficiency at 1600 is still much better at this point.

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Any reason why the HT link has to be above 2G for better performance?

In regard to the efficiency: I suppose that Thuban still has the same issues as Deneb has when it comes to memory data transfer. AMD people confirmed that an elevated memory frequency is no use if you don't increase the IMC frequency accordingly. An appropriate ratio would be IMC:DRAM as 3:1, which would mean a 6GHz IMC if you want to make propper use of 2G memory.

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Hmm...

Can I ask what bios? I just booted into windows @ 1775 CL7 on my Gigabyte 890GX board and I'm currently at loop 6 in 32M :confused:

It's Micron GTS @ 2.0v :shrug:

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I don't recall the bios, it was sent to me a couple of weeks ago. At the time, I had a very small timeframe in which I could test the Thuban using extreme cooling, so I had to go for the best board then.

FYI, I was using GTX2 memory. It's very likely the cause of the low memory frequency was due to incompatibility issues.

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Any reason why the HT link has to be above 2G for better performance?

In regard to the efficiency: I suppose that Thuban still has the same issues as Deneb has when it comes to memory data transfer. AMD people confirmed that an elevated memory frequency is no use if you don't increase the IMC frequency accordingly. An appropriate ratio would be IMC:DRAM as 3:1, which would mean a 6GHz IMC if you want to make propper use of 2G memory.

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If I remember that ratio is more like 2:1 The stock IMC freq. was supposed to be good up to 1066... ;)

And the wall on my 890GX board is 940/1880...I can do 1850 CAS 7-7-7 and then everything else above is just junk. Not even 1900 CL10. :down:

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Any reason why the HT link has to be above 2G for better performance?

In regard to the efficiency: I suppose that Thuban still has the same issues as Deneb has when it comes to memory data transfer. AMD people confirmed that an elevated memory frequency is no use if you don't increase the IMC frequency accordingly. An appropriate ratio would be IMC:DRAM as 3:1, which would mean a 6GHz IMC if you want to make propper use of 2G memory.

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It is an auto rule function in the BIOS, in fact raising HTT (Bclk) above 240 with both NB and HT set to auto will result in both of them falling back to 1920MHz (depends on ratios also), which is even worse, they should stay in sync at 2400MHz until the next auto rule limit is reached. So far, most Thuban processors we have tested will do NB/HTat 2600MHz on safe voltage settings so additional tuning is in order for the tables.

This will be corrected in the next BIOS but the main reason for maxing HT is to sync with NB speed (which you obviously want as high as possible on this platform) to keep the current memory table at optimum settings. Right now the rules are set to ensure stability/compatibility instead of maximum performance. Now that the AGESA code is stable for Thuban, we will set different rules when the BIOS "sees" performance settings being utilized.

Before anyone says anything, we went through four different AGESA code levels in the last two months or so as the platform and processors were finalized. This is the reason why we had around seven BIOS releases since the ES samples were delivered in early March. ;)

Yes, to truly maximize memory performance, we truly need higher NB speeds to improve efficiencies as memory increases above 1066 on this platform. This is one of the main reasons I like to run NB/HT/Memory in high-sync where possible and why 1600C6 is still my favorite memory setting for everyday use, provided I have a IMC that allows that setting and 3200 on the NB/HT side. I have one right now that will do it on air so I am fortunate. ;)

damn!!!! i want 960T

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Any reason why the HT link has to be above 2G for better performance?

In regard to the efficiency: I suppose that Thuban still has the same issues as Deneb has when it comes to memory data transfer. AMD people confirmed that an elevated memory frequency is no use if you don't increase the IMC frequency accordingly. An appropriate ratio would be IMC:DRAM as 3:1, which would mean a 6GHz IMC if you want to make propper use of 2G memory.

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Why 3:1? I was always under the impression that it was 2:1.

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Hmm...

Can I ask what bios? I just booted into windows @ 1775 CL7 on my Gigabyte 890GX board and I'm currently at loop 6 in 32M :confused:

It's Micron GTS @ 2.0v :shrug:

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Why are you running at stock voltage? :D I run my GTS at 1.9x to 2.0x volts 24/7 for many months now:shrug:

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This will be corrected in the next BIOS but the main reason for maxing HT is to sync with NB speed (which you obviously want as high as possible on this platform) to keep the current memory table at optimum settings. Right now the rules are set to ensure stability/compatibility instead of maximum performance. Now that the AGESA code is stable for Thuban, we will set different rules when the BIOS "sees" performance settings being utilized.

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So, if I understand correctly, the sole action of raising the HT link isn't gaining any performance (which got me confused in the first place), but it makes sure the memory tables remain at optimum settings. Something in lines of making sure the system sees the NB/HT link combination as 'close to default' so it enables the high performance tables.

Bios is tuned for optimal performance at default settings, and tuned for overclocking headroom at non-default settings. Hey, that makes sense even for me!

Thanks for the heads up!

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Why 3:1? I was always under the impression that it was 2:1.

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Might be the difference between 'okay to run' and 'saturation'. 2:1 might be delivering enough bandwidth to have some sort of efficient subsystem and 3:1 might be the saturation level where the bandwidth provided by the memory is used to the fullest.

I should be getting a C-IV this afternoon, I'll run the memory tests to check this out :).

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Why 3:1? I was always under the impression that it was 2:1.



Why are you running at stock voltage? :D I run my GTS at 1.9x to 2.0x volts 24/7 for many months now:shrug:

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I don't know...:D I just use what I need :yepp:

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So, if I understand correctly, the sole action of raising the HT link isn't gaining any performance (which got me confused in the first place), but it makes sure the memory tables remain at optimum settings. Something in lines of making sure the system sees the NB/HT link combination as 'close to default' so it enables the high performance tables.

Bios is tuned for optimal performance at default settings, and tuned for overclocking headroom at non-default settings. Hey, that makes sense even for me!

Thanks for the heads up!



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You got it, in fact in some of the numbers around here you will see NB at 2100 and HT at 1900, for some odd reason not having those two in sync will throw off the table that is used and memory performance will drop. We figured it out and it should be updated in the next BIOS. This only occurs in auto mode and clocking HTT (bclk) up, but I wanted to mention it so users can experience the full potential of the board.

We will tighten up the tables in the next release. Depending on NB speed and memory utilized the 0505 BIOS might actually be a little faster on the memory side but then some of the disk/3D/four-dimm enhancements are lost.

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You got it, in fact in some of the numbers around here you will see NB at 2100 and HT at 1900, for some odd reason not having those two in sync will throw off the table that is used and memory performance will drop. We figured it out and it should be updated in the next BIOS. This only occurs in auto mode and clocking HTT (bclk) up, but I wanted to mention it so users can experience the full potential of the board.

We will tighten up the tables in the next release. Depending on NB speed and memory utilized the 0505 BIOS might actually be a little faster on the memory side but then some of the disk/3D/four-dimm enhancements are lost.

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With very little time I had yesterday playing around CH-IV + 1090T I've noticed setting NB and HTT in sync gives best memory latencies and write speeds.

One thing puzzled me. BIOS is reporting CPU/NB voltage @1.252V, but AOD in Vista says it's 1.15V... A bug in 0707?
Also why enabling Line Calibration to cure Vdrop can cause instabilities? I just enabled it for my last boot very late last night and it worked correctly eliminating Vdrop. I ran out of time to check if stability is where it should be...


Can't wait to get back home tomorrow and dig under the hood of my new toys :)

Been testing this board since yesterday-night. Some issues with unganged mode at the moment.

2100 CL7-7-7-21 (but ganged)

http://hwbot.org/blog/wp-content//2100cl7-2.png

WOW,that is insane massman

In my test of the 790FX chipset the ganged mode has a little better performence than unganged havent tested it on the 890FX chipset yet

WOW!

I'm starting from DDR3 1800MHz and will move upward once I get hang of DDR3 timings. 2100 CL7 is crazy on AMD :shocked:
What chips Massman?

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In my test of the 790FX chipset the ganged mode has a little better performence than unganged havent tested it on the 890FX chipset yet

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Depends on the benchmark, really. I think 2100 ganged should be better than 1920 unganged, though :).

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WOW!

I'm starting from DDR3 1800MHz and will move upward once I get hang of DDR3 timings. 2100 CL7 is crazy on AMD :shocked:
What chips Massman?

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The super-dooper ultra-expensive Corsair Dominator GTX2

Sorry to hijack the thread, im was just wondering what would be the max safe voltage for the nb on a 1055T under a phase change?

Cheers.

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Hmm...

Can I ask what bios? I just booted into windows @ 1775 CL7 on my Gigabyte 890GX board and I'm currently at loop 6 in 32M :confused:

It's Micron GTS @ 2.0v :shrug:

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What bios version what that f7b? may i ask the trfc settings you were using what about the rest of the timings, If you can provide this info much appreciated, trying to tweak these g.skill trident 2000mhz.

I'd like to run the Dominator-GTs but the heatsinks are too high :(

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Sorry to hijack the thread, im was just wondering what would be the max safe voltage for the nb on a 1055T under a phase change?

Cheers.



What bios version what that f7b? may i ask the trfc settings you were using what about the rest of the timings, If you can provide this info much appreciated, trying to tweak these g.skill trident 2000mhz.

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F7B. The board locks up at 940/1880, however I've gotten 932 stable. I'll post a BIOS shot in a bit.

just unscrew the little alu sink at the top of the GT mem then you will be fine with the mem

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Been testing this board since yesterday-night. Some issues with unganged mode at the moment.

2100 CL7-7-7-21 (but ganged)

http://hwbot.org/blog/wp-content//2100cl7-2.png

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Bull:banana::banana::banana::banana::shocked:

Would love to see read speed with higher CPU/NB clocks under LN2!

You mean like this? Think I'm being limited by the Ganged mode, though.

http://hwbot.org/blog/wp-content//15kk.png

Oh my sweet mother of AMD, you're nanoseconds away from my best with BH-5!!!

nice nb there!! lol

I think that latency reading just made me crap my pants

That's the bad CPU you've killed but it did Jesus on you later on Massman?

Nice!

Yes, Lightman :-).

Next target is 2000CL7 unganged.

No. 2000CL6 please :eek:

Either need a different memory kit, or Leeghoofd to agree on 1.8V+ on the GTX2 :D

Those speeds are insane, Very nice massman

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I'm sure he's willing to sacrifice his ram for the sake of some WR's. :D

Nice bandwidth and latency there mate!

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Either need a different memory kit, or Leeghoofd to agree on 1.8V+ on the GTX2 :D

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Naa you need DI or Ln2 pot for the sticks :yepp:

I like your style :D

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I'm sure he's willing to sacrifice his ram for the sake of some WR's. :D

Nice bandwidth and latency there mate!

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Naa you need DI or Ln2 pot for the sticks :yepp:

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Originally Posted by Oj101

I like your style :D

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Spam Leeghoofd's PM box with "We Want GTX2 Extreme": link :D

And now? :D

I had to sell 2 of my unborn childs, prostitute myself nite after nite to be raped by a bunch of MILFS to get these GTX2's... kinda enjoyed some though :p

No way is he going to put more than 1.8Vdimm through these rams...

Some predictions : one day he will try to drive a car with no wheels, next day the car is on fire and finally the house will be on fire...

Try me punk !! Keep spamming me scammers :p

And I need them RAMS back tomorrow for further testing on the REX III... and a triple working kit !!!

I'm so sorry but I couldn't resist :rofl:

Thanks for being a good sport about it :D

they are a good kit like my ex-blades, don't want to go through another RMA process... these I want to keep for a long time... and if someone fries them it better be me :p

Lending them out is already painfull enough...

2v with a kingpin tube on it shouldn't be a problem , he can alway's sell a kidney for a new set of rams :D

you can imagine the area where Im gonna shove that tube into next time we meet

Now back onto topic...

I told massman I'll send him $5 if he disregards your plees and RAMs ( :D ) 2.2v and -196'c through the memory anyway :p:

Come on Leeg, you can always hang out some more nights at the Antwerpen Central Station area. If there's no milfs around to earn some money there's always a few "nice" guys around to make some easy money! :D

Aah, just 1.9V for a few hours man... even with a fan over them. :D

I think you have been there a bit too much :) You are talking from experience ? if I give 1.9 free , then it will be 2v next and so on... I know the Massman...

1.899999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999v then - PLEEEEEEEEEEEEAS? :D

Has someone mentioned MILF's? :D
Where?

I'm joining pleasing crowd for 1.9V :p:
After Massman kills your sticks Leeghoofd, he can sign 'Ooops! I did it again :rofl:
But not to worry too much, he has special ability and computer hardware is doing Jesus on him quite often it seems :)

I will give it another go just for ref the bios massman is using is easily 100 mhz higher OC potential than the extremely early bios I used, there was an agesa code update in between there. Quick testing with a certain set of sticks that could barely do 1900 did 2000 with ease afterwards with 0707 ;)

Shoving volts into the sticks on air will do absolutely nothing so far, in fact some sticks dislike anything over 1.6875.

Max we are using is 1.7125.

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

I think you have been there a bit too much :) You are talking from experience ? if I give 1.9 free , then it will be 2v next and so on... I know the Massman...

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Nah, haven't been there mate, i dont kill that much hardware. :D

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Originally Posted by chew*

I will give it another go just for ref the bios massman is using is easily 100 mhz higher OC potential than the extremely early bios I used, there was an agesa code update in between there. Quick testing with a certain set of sticks that could barely do 1900 did 2000 with ease afterwards with 0707 ;)

Shoving volts into the sticks on air will do absolutely nothing so far, in fact some sticks dislike anything over 1.6875.

Max we are using is 1.7125.

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older bios
no thuban

but its the absolute maximum ....

http://www.rol-co.nl/hwi/amd555/999-ch4.jpg

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Originally Posted by Rol-Co

older bios
no thuban

but its the absolute maximum ....

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Yep thats about the size of it on bios 0405 rolco.

0707 might show yields on non thuban to, not sure yet.

i will try 0707 but wanted o test this one first, its hard to get back at the asus board's. if i gain 50mhz with that bios its already very much, would be great to run stable at 1k+.

Can't wait for the 0707 results as it will determine the next set of ram I'll be picking up. :D

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Originally Posted by massman

Spam Leeghoofd's PM box with "We Want GTX2 Extreme": link :D

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Spam sent cause you broke 15k read:yepp:

You guys are evil, I already killed his mailbox last night :D

That's a very nice result for Deneb! You couldn't get closer to DDR2000 if you tried :clap:

Had to post this as I find the request for ridiculous voltage well quite frankly ridiculous......

The key to AMD's IMC has always been finesse and not brute force.....

No ganged tricks here....... 1.675v dram anyone?

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...evethehype.jpg

New AMD ram records?

Save the NB comments, I think the stock x4 cooler says it all. As always never backed off timings and never watered down.....90ns trfc.

Unganged real deal stuff.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/Corsair%2...vethehype3.jpg

Ganged.......take it with a grain of salt....it is what it is.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/Corsair%2...vethehype6.jpg

This is just me warming up.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/Corsair%2...n/IMG_2476.JPG

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/Corsair%2...n/IMG_2477.JPG