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03-19-2010, 03:42 AM
zalbard

Official Intel Gulftown (Westmere) Overclocking and Batch Tracking Thread
Please post your results and share your experience when overclocking Intel Gulftown (Westmere) processors here.
You may also share overclocking tips and tricks and ask for help if you need it.
Feel free to discuss anything related to Intel Gulftown (Westmere) chips, batch tracking and stability testing is not the primary purpose of the thread.
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Additionally, I will make a list to track batch numbers and compile the results in the second post.

If you want your results to be added to the list, you must follow the rules:
1. You must have at least 2GB of memory installed in the system.
2. Screenshot must show a CPU-Z window with 4GHz+ frequency.
3. Screenshot must show
  either a LinX window (max memory settings, click "All" button, or pick the last memory size option from the drop down menu, the "All" option is highly recommended) either running the 20th+ loop with no errors, or with 20+ successful passes
  or a window of Prime95 Small FFTs successfully running for 2+ hours.
4. List your full batch number.
5. List the motherboard you used.
6. List the cooling you used (cooling type at least, such as: air / chilled air / water / chilled water / phase).
Also, please do not post images wider than 1280 pixels, use thumbnails / links if you have to. Thank you! :up:
03-19-2010, 03:44 AM
zalbard

Full Batch # | Frequency and # of cores + threads | vCore | Motherboard | Cooling type

LinX / Prime, Stability

# 3003A957 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 4600.4MHz | 1.472 | ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 | Water
# 3003A957 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 4231.9MHz | 1.344 | ASUS P6T | Water
# 3003B242 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 4509.4MHz | 1.416 | ASUS Rampage III Extreme | Water
# 3003B287 | Core i7 980X [6C 6T] @ 4800.3MHz | 1.520 | Gigabyte X58A-UD7 | Chilled Water
# 3003B287 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 4725.4MHz | 1.568 | Gigabyte X58A-UD7 | Water
# 3003B287 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 4608.7MHz | 1.458 | EVGA Classified E760 | Water
# 3003B288 | Core i7 980X [6C 6T] @ 4500.2MHz | 1.408V | ASUS P6X58D Premium | Water
# 3003B320 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 4713.7MHz | 1.494 | EVGA Classified E759 | Water
# 3003B331 | Core i7 980X [6C 6T] @ 4500.2MHz | 1.376 | Gigabyte EX58-DS4 | Water
# 3003B396 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 4563.9MHz | 1.435 | EVGA Classified E760 | Water
# 3003B396 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 4521.5MHz | 1.424 | Gigabyte X58A-UD7 | Water
# 3003B396 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 4500.2MHz | 1.376 | Gigabyte EX58-DS4 | Water
# 3003B466 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 4500.0MHz | 1.392 | ASUS P6T Deluxe | Air
# 3003B475 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 4504.9MHz | 1.442 | ASUS Rampage II Extreme | Water

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LN2, Validations

# 3003B287 | Core i7 980X [6C 6T] @ 6629.6MHz | 1.840 | ASUS Rampage III Extreme
# 3003B287 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 6612.4MHz | 1.872 | EVGA Classified E762
# 3003B287 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 6320.5MHz | 1.823 | EVGA Classified E762

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LN2, SPi 1M

# 3003A957 | Core i7 980X [6C 6T] @ 6188.8MHz | 1.929 | EVGA Classified E762
# 3003B242 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 6053.3MHz | 1.846 | EVGA Classified E762
# 3003B331 | Core i7 980X [2C 2T] @ 5869.0MHz | 1.904 | Gigabyte EX58-UD4
# 3952A844 | Core i7 980X [6C 6T] @ 5906.2MHz | 1.888 | Gigabyte X58A-UD7

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LN2, 3DMark Vantage

# 3003A957 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 5859.7MHz | 1.846 | EVGA Classified E760
# 3003B178 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 5506.1MHz | 1.760 | Gigabyte X58A-UD7
# 3003B187 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 5713.9MHz | 1.729 | EVGA Classified E762
# 3003B331 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 5566.7MHz | 1.835 | EVGA Classified E760
# 3003B396 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 5821.5MHz | 1.824 | ASUS Rampage III Extreme
# 3003B396 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 5727.8MHz | 1.824 | ASUS Rampage III Extreme
# 3952A844 | Core i7 980X [6C 12T] @ 5405.2MHz | 1.872 | ASUS Rampage II Extreme

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LN2, AquaMark 3

# 3003B320 | Core i7 980X [6C 6T] @ 6325.4MHz | 1.928 | ASUS P6T WS Pro
# 3003B320 | Core i7 980X [6C 6T] @ 6224.6MHz | 1.858 | EVGA Classified E762
# 3005F725 | Core i7 980X [6C 6T] @ 6600.0MHz | 1.900 | MSI BigBang XPOWER X58
03-19-2010, 04:15 AM
Sam_oslo

Here is my first attempts on X5650, on air: . Taking it really easy until I get to know the CPU a bit better.
Hopefully will find a good double socket MB (like EVGA SR-2) soon, but it is running as single CPU on a GB UD7 for now.

First thoughts:
Core seams to be OCing nicely and easily, but the challenge seams to be stabilizing the Uncore for high BCLK>200 without too much VVT for 24/7 use. The Uncore seams to be locked on x20 (at least I couldn't change it). Maybe it is a part of Xeon DPs, but hopefully I will know more about dealing with it soon.
This is really new to me and can present some challenges for high BCLKs (at least without too much VVT for 24/7), but I'm working on it :)

I don't dare to LinX on high OC yet. I need some time to get to know the possibilities/limitations on these CPUs, and what they can take of torture, etc ... This thread could be a good place to discuses it, I hope ;).

X5650 @4Ghz(182x22) wPrime 32M and 1024M
http://img.techpowerup.org/100318/Capture012096.jpg

X5650 @4Ghz(182x22) CineBENCH 11.5:
http://img.techpowerup.org/100316/Capture005.jpg
03-19-2010, 05:04 AM
SteveRo

Much thanks Zalbard!
This thread should be very usefull.
From the linx stable thread - below is my 1st try - Cooled via chilled water - 2x boreas in series to an apogee xt block, mcp pump with xspc top.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6651/dsc03254j.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/81/xxxg.png
03-19-2010, 06:20 AM
road-runner

3003A957-Water cooling Dtek Ver.1 Asus P6T any higher and the multi starts changing or throttling at around 60c. I have all the thermal garbage off as well as speed step, I think we need a new bios. :shrug:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...ix-i7-980x.jpg
03-19-2010, 06:26 AM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveRo

Much thanks Zalbard!
This thread should be very useful.

You're welcome! :up:
I am hoping for it. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by road-runner

3003A957-Water cooling Dtek Ver.1 Asus P6T any higher and the multi starts changing or throttling at around 60c. I have all the thermal garbage off as well as speed step, I think we need a new bios. :shrug:

ASUS P6T is famous for the throttling issues, though. I obviously don't know about Gulftown, but I know that some BIOSes have throttling issues with Nehalems, and some don't. No idea which one you're using, but you get my point.
Edit: also, how much RAM did you use for LinX? You have 6GB installed, does the system see 6GB? Just looking at your 15500 problem size, and that's with "All" button pressed...
I've added your submission, but I will update it as soon as you sort the throttling / memory issues. :up:
03-19-2010, 07:28 AM
eva2000

FYI, interesting findings for Gulftown 6C12T testing, prime95 small fft stresses the 980X more than linx 0.6.4 does. From Powermate wattage metter prime95 results in ~10% more power consumption measured from the wall than linx does. This was the opposite for Bloomfield i7 9xx series where linx was ~10% more power consuming than prime95. Could be linx isn't properly utilising all 6C12T of the i7 980X yet ?
03-19-2010, 07:31 AM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

FYI, interesting findings for Gulftown 6C12T testing, prime95 small fft stresses the 980X more than linx 0.6.4 does. From Powermate wattage metter prime95 results in ~10% more power consumption measured from the wall than linx does. This was the opposite for Bloomfield i7 9xx series where linx was ~10% more power consuming than prime95. Could be linx isn't properly utilising all 6C12T of the i7 980X yet ?

Yes, that is very possible, we've been observing such things for a while now (check LinX thread).
I'm not sure I want to go back to 8 hour Prime requirements, though... :(
03-19-2010, 07:34 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalbard

Yes, that is very possible, we've been observing such things for a while now (check LinX thread).
I'm not sure I want to go back to 8 hour Prime requirements, though... :(

5 loop linx + 30 min prime95 + 3dvantage run should be enough sort all the batches out :)
03-19-2010, 07:37 AM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

5 loop linx + 30 min prime95 + 3dvantage run should be enough sort all the batches out :)

Hm, how about just giving an option... Either 20 passes of LinX or 2 hours of Prime95 Small Ffts? I don't suppose LinX is THAT bad, or is it? I don't have a first hand experience with Gulftown, can't really afford one atm...
03-19-2010, 07:44 AM
road-runner

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalbard

You're welcome! :up:
I am hoping for it. :)

ASUS P6T is famous for the throttling issues, though. I obviously don't know about Gulftown, but I know that some BIOSes have throttling issues with Nehalems, and some don't. No idea which one you're using, but you get my point.
Edit: also, how much RAM did you use for LinX? You have 6GB installed, does the system see 6GB? Just looking at your 15500 problem size, and that's with "All" button pressed...
I've added your submission, but I will update it as soon as you sort the throttling / memory issues. :up:

I had 6gb in but 32 bit OS so no. I selected ALL, I have bios 1201 also the newest on there website. :shrug: Just trying this, waiting on my classified from RMA then going cold...
03-19-2010, 08:25 AM
Sam_oslo

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

FYI, interesting findings for Gulftown 6C12T testing, prime95 small fft stresses the 980X more than linx 0.6.4 does. From Powermate wattage metter prime95 results in ~10% more power consumption measured from the wall than linx does. This was the opposite for Bloomfield i7 9xx series where linx was ~10% more power consuming than prime95. Could be linx isn't properly utilising all 6C12T of the i7 980X yet ?

Indeed, there is something fishy with the Gflops that is suggesting the same.
This 4.52GHz Gulftown using 4GB RAM has 53.63 Gflops, while this 4.51Ghz Bloomfield using 4GB RAM has 58.59 Gflops.
All these 6C/12T are producing less LinX-Gflops than 4C/8T?, In case, something seams to be really fishy with running LinX on Gulftown/Westmere :p:
03-19-2010, 08:32 AM
tool_462

Yeah the Gflops are all funky:

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/45linx-1.png

I'd tell you the batch on the chip but its under my block and I don't think anyone cares about ES batches :p:
03-19-2010, 08:57 AM
Sam_oslo

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool_462

Yeah the Gflops are all funky:

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q179/tool_462/45linx-1.png[/img]

I'd tell you the batch on the chip but its under my block and I don't think anyone cares about ES batches :p:

Yeah this GFlps looks much better. I guess we can conclude it got nothing to do with Gulftown/Westmere. It seams to be acting funky with 6C/12T, and perhaps is not using all cores.
They will hopefully fix it soon, but running Linx on 6C/12T won't be a indicator for stability until then, I guess.
03-19-2010, 09:06 AM
SteveRo

Regarding linx gflops for westmere - do you think its just the way the gflops are computed by linx or something more messed up?
What I'm getting at is it should hopefully still be a measure of stability -perhaps just not as good as for other procs?
03-19-2010, 09:40 AM
Sam_oslo

I don't know what's possibly wrong with LinX, but it seams not be using all 6C/12T. In case, it won't stress 100% and won't be able to determine the 24/7 stability either. Running 8 hours Prime SamllFFT (or at least a couple of hours) would be much better indication then. At least until they find what's wrong and fix the LinX.
03-19-2010, 09:49 AM
Movieman

FWIW: I ran the X65680's at 4GHz at 100% load on WCG for 12 hours and no errors in the WU.. Temps stayed in the 50's on air during the run.
WCG loads just a tad lighter than LinX from what I can tell..very close but lighter.
03-20-2010, 03:32 AM
pr@$r1g

Hi all the go0di's ............... 6C.12T :D,those XEON's are real good

Any one here with EX58A-UD3 with 980x ?
03-20-2010, 08:37 AM
Sam_oslo

Some second toughs. Still not final tho :)
I've ended up with @3.8GHz(173x22) 1.21v and VVT=1.32v for now.

These Xeon DPs have a looked Uncore at x20 which requires A LOT of VVT to stabilize at higher BCLK.
My previews @4GHz(182x22) 1.26v needs VVT=~1.38v, and I think it is too close to Intel's max VVT=1.4v. I'm going to wait a few weeks, and hopefully won't see too many dead or degraded chips, before I push the VVT on this chip. Playing chicken, but it keeps the CPU safe. ;)

I will hopefully get brave enough to raise the VVT to 1.38v and run @4GHz after a while. Hopefully I can find a way around this locked Uncore-monster too.

This chip dose not make any sense as a single CPU, but the plan is to get a EVGA SR-2 and run 2 CPU on it, hopefully soon. :D and @3.8Ghz would do, but the next CPU is going to be a X5660 (with x23 multi) or maybe even a Quad with even higher multi, for hitting higher frequencies, for sure.

The good news, it it is running really cool. The load-temp is actually almost the same as the Idle-temp for my good old w3520 :rolleyes: .
The Core can still OC much higher, but it is a shame that the Uncore can not keep up without too much VVT.

X5650 @3.8Ghz(173x22) Vcore=1.21v, VVT=1.32v, 3 Hours Prime smalFFT
http://img.techpowerup.org/100320/Capture006718.jpg
03-20-2010, 02:20 PM
hlonipha

A little higher on the volts but will start to decrease and see if I can get it stable with a bit lower.
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9939/464o.jpg
03-21-2010, 10:02 AM
tool_462

Getting to know the chip a little more:

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...3-21110935.png

I had previously been solving a slight VTT/DRAM voltage lacking with extra vcore :p: Looks like 4Ghz is easy peasy on this guy, still going to stick to 4.5-4.6 24/7 I think :) RAM isn't done tweaking though.

Sorry to threadcrap but I'll post the batch here soon enough, not that it really matters. I figured people might want to see what the early quads are capable of.
03-21-2010, 11:40 AM
lawtq

Quote:

Originally Posted by hlonipha

A little higher on the volts but will start to decrease and see if I can get it stable with a bit lower.
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9939/464o.jpg

That is beautiful! Those clocks, and at those volts? Great B batch cpu you have!:up:

Tell me somethinig, do the B batches still only need an uncore speed of 1.5 x the ram? I think someone on the evga forums said A batches are 1.5x, while B batches need 2x just like the 920's, 975's.
03-21-2010, 12:52 PM
SteveRo

I thought I might post this in the intel forum also - good voltage data - plus another opportuity to indulge vanity.

Ok, so new pcmark vantage WR - I had to push to 1.45 vcore but I wanted to be the first over 30k -

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3...agewr30359.png
03-21-2010, 02:11 PM
Mech0z

How the hell can you beat Vantage record without ln2 :o aka "only" 4600mhz compared to the 6500 others have hit
03-21-2010, 02:29 PM
Musho

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mech0z

How the hell can you beat Vantage record without ln2 :o aka "only" 4600mhz compared to the 6500 others have hit

Because he's using 6 cores, plus a kickass storage system. PCMark Vantage is _highly_ dependent on a fast storage system.
03-21-2010, 02:33 PM
lawtq

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveRo

I thought I might post this in the intel forum also - good voltage data - plus another opportuity to indulge vanity.

Ok, so new pcmark vantage WR - I had to push to 1.45 vcore but I wanted to be the first over 30k -

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3...agewr30359.png

Please post a pic of the inside of you PC, especially the 2x boreas
setup!! Loving the temps!
03-21-2010, 02:40 PM
Mech0z

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musho

Because he's using 6 cores, plus a kickass storage system. PCMark Vantage is _highly_ dependent on a fast storage system.

Oh my bad, thought it was 3dmark vantage :fight:
03-21-2010, 03:12 PM
SteveRo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mech0z

How the hell can you beat Vantage record without ln2 :o aka "only" 4600mhz compared to the 6500 others have hit

Also, a good SS overclock should have no problem doing 5+ghz with a 980x.
03-21-2010, 03:56 PM
Rubycon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

I don't know what's possibly wrong with LinX, but it seams not be using all 6C/12T. In case, it won't stress 100% and won't be able to determine the 24/7 stability either. Running 8 hours Prime SamllFFT (or at least a couple of hours) would be much better indication then. At least until they find what's wrong and fix the LinX.

LinX is messing up on dual Xeon systems too. I thought I had a throttling issue when I saw the GFLOPS go down.

It seems like it will go up to 2048MB size. After that it's a crap shoot. If you see your temps not as high or power draw lower than you know it's not stressing the CPU(s) despite all programs, task manager, etc. showing 100% load.

OCCT still works, however. Faster for finding errors than Prime95.

Until Linpack is updated to support these new CPUs we're stuck with smaller problem size (keep the RAM used to 2GB or lower which is not as thorough!) or use OCCT.
03-21-2010, 06:29 PM
[200]

Have you considered keeping an eye on the Extreme Overclocking section of the forum? Maybe you could add liquid nitrogen to the list?
03-21-2010, 11:21 PM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool_462

I'd tell you the batch on the chip but its under my block and I don't think anyone cares about ES batches :p:

Sure we do! :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

I don't know what's possibly wrong with LinX, but it seams not be using all 6C/12T. In case, it won't stress 100% and won't be able to determine the 24/7 stability either. Running 8 hours Prime SamllFFT (or at least a couple of hours) would be much better indication then. At least until they find what's wrong and fix the LinX.

I'll give an option of 2 hours of Small Ffts for now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveRo

What I'm getting at is it should hopefully still be a measure of stability -perhaps just not as good as for other procs?

Yeah, that's how I see it as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hlonipha

A little higher on the volts but will start to decrease and see if I can get it stable with a bit lower.
Image

Added yours! :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by [200]

Have you considered keeping an eye on the Extreme Overclocking section of the forum? Maybe you could add liquid nitrogen to the list?

I'll try! :up:

Regarding LN2... Feel free to point me in direction of new submissions in various threads in case I miss those, will make my job much easier. Thank you! :up:
03-22-2010, 06:34 AM
SteveRo

Good morning Mr Zalbard,

I see you added a 3dMark vantage catagory - shouldn't we also have a pcmark catagory?
03-22-2010, 06:41 AM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveRo

Good morning Mr Zalbard,

I see you added a 3dMark vantage catagory - shouldn't we also have a pcmark catagory?

We could, I guess... Do you think it will be useful?
I have nothing against PCMark.
I just added 3 most popular 'benchmarks' on LN2. I couldn't come up with one every single bencher uses (and didn't want to use like 20 - too much pointless work), but most either bech 2D (surely SPi 1M in this case) or 3D (3DM Vantage usually), and some also come up with max validation.
Not many play with PCMark Vantage for some reason (expensive storage systems I guess).
I think both Vantage benchmarks cause similar CPU stress levels, with 3DMark being more popular. So I opted for that.
03-22-2010, 02:24 PM
SteveRo

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalbard

We could, I guess... Do you think it will be useful?
I have nothing against PCMark.
I just added 3 most popular 'benchmarks' on LN2. I couldn't come up with one every single bencher uses (and didn't want to use like 20 - too much pointless work), but most either bech 2D (surely SPi 1M in this case) or 3D (3DM Vantage usually), and some also come up with max validation.
Not many play with PCMark Vantage for some reason (expensive storage systems I guess).
I think both Vantage benchmarks cause similar CPU stress levels, with 3DMark being more popular. So I opted for that.

Your right - not that many use pcmark vantage, 3dmark is probably fine.
I do think pcmark vantage is gaining in popularity - its a better measure of all around pc performance - but the fact that you have to pay for it is holding in back, same for 3dmark vantage but perhaps to a lessor extent. Also it takes longer to run pcmark - people don't like to wait.
03-22-2010, 02:26 PM
SteveRo

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawtq

Please post a pic of the inside of you PC, especially the 2x boreas
setup!! Loving the temps!

Good evening, not that much to look at really -

see - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...51&postcount=6
03-22-2010, 04:55 PM
railmeat

[IMG]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...oto-0029-1.jpg[/IMG]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...owsscore-1.png
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...owsscore-1.png

my win7 score ran last week with my 920...my 980 only got 1 point higher?hmmm

my c300 screams tho --128 gig crucial
[IMG]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...hwin7score.png[/IMG]
03-23-2010, 08:16 AM
Rubycon

LinX 0.64 WILL stress all cores up to 512MB test size. Anything bigger and it generates less heat and GFLOPS.

I've tested this with two different boards and 980Xs.
03-23-2010, 05:11 PM
managerman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubycon

LinX 0.64 WILL stress all cores up to 512MB test size. Anything bigger and it generates less heat and GFLOPS.

I've tested this with two different boards and 980Xs.

You mean like this?? :)

Gflops way up..and heat way up...:yepp:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...12gulftown.jpg
03-23-2010, 08:05 PM
Rubycon

Right...now change the testing from number of tests to run to minutes and move it to 300. That will run it for five hours. If it does not err out after five hours it probably won't after 20. ;)

[QUOTE=managerman;4302817]You mean like this?? :)

Gflops way up..and heat way up...:yepp:
03-24-2010, 12:06 PM
MaximumPig

got my 980x 3005F215 (from Fry's in the US, ordered 3/22), putting it in my GA-X58 UD7 tonight, will report back. im just a humble (but brave) air-cooler though.
03-24-2010, 08:01 PM
trn

Great thread Zalbard! :up: Might I suggest adding XS user names in post #2 along with the other data? I like to read the info by users, for a lot of people that post here a lot you already know what kind of setup they are running. Anyways... Thought Id make a suggestion before the thread got to long to add or modify the data.

Also, I'm seeing Overclocks without batch #'s and information about the cooling???:slap: This thread is about collecting data about Gulftown/Westmere Batch # overclocking results.
03-25-2010, 01:29 AM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by trn

Great thread Zalbard! :up: Might I suggest adding XS user names in post #2 along with the other data? I like to read the info by users, for a lot of people that post here a lot you already know what kind of setup they are running. Anyways... Thought Id make a suggestion before the thread got to long to add or modify the data.

I can, I just don't think it's important since it's just about finding out which batch is better, if you want some competition you can probably check my LinX club. :p:

Quote:

Originally Posted by trn

Also, I'm seeing Overclocks without batch #'s and information about the cooling???:slap: This thread is about collecting data about Gulftown/Westmere Batch # overclocking results.

It's not a mandatory thing. It's a general Gulfy OC thread, batch tracking is the secondary goal.
However, I encourage you guys to list those so I can populate the table. :)
03-25-2010, 03:54 AM
SteveRo

Mr Zalbard, Please update the first post, the same chip - 3003B287 - thanks!

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9...linxstable.png
03-25-2010, 04:06 AM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveRo

Mr Zalbard, Please update the first post, the same chip - 3003B287 - thanks!

Done! :up:
03-25-2010, 04:32 AM
ci2kla

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveRo

Mr Zalbard, Please update the first post, the same chip - 3003B287 - thanks!

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9...linxstable.png

What a killer batch!:eek:
03-25-2010, 04:45 AM
Sam_oslo

Quote:

Originally Posted by ci2kla

What a killer batch!:eek:

Yeah, really good result. It looks like the return of B-batch.
03-25-2010, 04:49 AM
pinto

Don't forget that he didn't use HT and use some really cold water.
03-25-2010, 04:52 AM
SteveRo

Thanks guys, I'm thinking of trying 1.5v but I really don't want to make an entry in the 32nm graveyard thread.
03-25-2010, 04:56 AM
SteveRo

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinto

Don't forget that he didn't use HT and use some really cold water.

Initial indication is HT on for 32nm doesn't cause as much heat as it did for 45.

Also - droping from ~1.65 down to 1.45vcore, that combined with the 32nm part already runing cooler vs. the 45 - the 2xboreas is working out great.
A little antifreeze keeps the water from freezing.
When summer comes I will need to be carefull about condensation - I haven't really protected anything in my current setup.
03-25-2010, 06:18 AM
tool_462

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveRo

Initial indication is HT on for 32nm doesn't cause as much heat as it did for 45.

But it does make the chip not clock as high when enabled, which I think was his point.
03-25-2010, 08:54 AM
SteveRo

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool_462

But it does make the chip not clock as high when enabled, which I think was his point.

Yes, was true for 45nm, probably also true for 32.
When I get a chance, I will rerun with HT on and see how far I get - probably not 4.7 but we'll see.
03-25-2010, 09:18 PM
hlonipha

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool_462

But it does make the chip not clock as high when enabled, which I think was his point.

my 4.6 ghz is with HT enable. will try 4.7 this weekend. :up:
03-26-2010, 02:14 AM
tool_462

My chip runs 4.6Ghz with HT, I haven't done much without HT but I did bump it up to 4.72Ghz from 4.6Ghz with Easy Tuner without HT and it ran LinX 20 passes fine, was testing Gflops though not 24/7 settings.
03-26-2010, 03:04 AM
SteveRo

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool_462

My chip runs 4.6Ghz with HT, I haven't done much without HT but I did bump it up to 4.72Ghz from 4.6Ghz with Easy Tuner without HT and it ran LinX 20 passes fine, was testing Gflops though not 24/7 settings.

Seems like the 980 is working out to be a very nice oc'er so far, don't you think?
All of us seem to be having good results to this point.
I'm a bit concerned that if we push vcore too far there is a cliff that we're not seeing.
03-26-2010, 06:52 AM
[SYF] Karma

ok got mine

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSCF1751.jpg

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSCF1765.jpg

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSCF1752.jpg

sorting bios etc tomorrow, then ill get some up
03-26-2010, 07:53 AM
Musho

Quote:

Originally Posted by [SYF] Karma

ok got mine

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSCF1751.jpg

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSCF1765.jpg

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSCF1752.jpg

sorting bios etc tomorrow, then ill get some up

Nice! First time I've seen the new stock cooler. Looks decent enough, especially if you compare it their regular stock coolers :p: How well does it cool compared to a highend aftermarket air cooler though?
03-26-2010, 10:03 AM
SteveRo

Karma, thanks for the nice pics - time to get going on assembly!
03-26-2010, 10:13 AM
SteveRo

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinto

Don't forget that he didn't use HT and use some really cold water.

Ok so this time with HT on, :) I probably didn't need 1.5v vcore but I didn't want to spend a lot of time at high voltage to find the lowest v.
Cooling was the same 2x boreas in series to an apogee XT block.
I might try to up my pcmark vantage score this weekend.
Gflops must be broken.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5...withhtlinx.png
04-02-2010, 02:02 AM
crashmax

Watercooled and stable @4600MHz

Hi there

This is my first run with i7 980X B-Batch on water. I'm sure this thing can go higher...

http://www.abload.de/thumb/4600ht-bfpir.jpg
04-02-2010, 02:22 PM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashmax

Hi there

This is my first run with i7 980X B-Batch on water. I'm sure this thing can go higher...

http://www.abload.de/thumb/4600ht-bfpir.jpg

Nice start! Keep us updated! :D
04-02-2010, 03:20 PM
lawtq

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashmax

Hi there

This is my first run with i7 980X B-Batch on water. I'm sure this thing can go higher...

http://www.abload.de/thumb/4600ht-bfpir.jpg

It sure can go higher, my B batch is at 4.6ghz stable at 1.4375v :eek: this is with HT on!

32nm is amazing, I cant wait for a further shrink

But this chip is crazy expensive, my first time with an extreme, almost broke my bank account! :( So am settling for 4.5ghz at a lower then 1.4v which is intels max safe voltage, 4.5ghz at 1.39v rock solid stable!
04-03-2010, 08:13 AM
Rubycon

Something I've noticed with LinX and 980X

Hey guys if you notice your GFLOPS and temps both look lower when running LinX...

For quicker tests try 512MB size. Change number of problems to run to number of minutes to run and select 300. This will run the program for 5 hours regardless of problem size. Do note that if you choose a problem size small enough that you can overflow the program! It has a hard limit of 2^16-1 or 65535 passes and will produce an error after that regardless if you are stable or not. Not that having problem sizes that small does anything...

I've also found that if you select ALL memory it WILL produce max stress/temp/gflops! So it's basically 512MB or bust with 980X. (to FULLY stress the CPU!) But don't run 20 passes only - it's just not enough! 300 minutes - 5 hours - should be enough. If you don't produce errors/crash at that point it should be stable enough IMO. Just remember that selecting anything OTHER than 512MB or ALL will NOT fully stress your CPU! This cannot be stressed enough. (sorry for the pun!)
04-03-2010, 08:31 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubycon

Hey guys if you notice your GFLOPS and temps both look lower when running LinX...

For quicker tests try 512MB size. Change number of problems to run to number of minutes to run and select 300. This will run the program for 5 hours regardless of problem size. Do note that if you choose a problem size small enough that you can overflow the program! It has a hard limit of 2^16-1 or 65535 passes and will produce an error after that regardless if you are stable or not. Not that having problem sizes that small does anything...

I've also found that if you select ALL memory it WILL produce max stress/temp/gflops! So it's basically 512MB or bust with 980X. (to FULLY stress the CPU!) But don't run 20 passes only - it's just not enough! 300 minutes - 5 hours - should be enough. If you don't produce errors/crash at that point it should be stable enough IMO. Just remember that selecting anything OTHER than 512MB or ALL will NOT fully stress your CPU! This cannot be stressed enough. (sorry for the pun!)

5hrs linx run :eek: Talk about crashing a car into the wall to check if the air bags work! Unless you want to prematurely kill components then 5hr linx runs are fine, otherwise really you don't need to stress for so long with linx, 24/7 day everyday apps will never come close to stressing the system like linx/prime95!
04-03-2010, 08:52 AM
mk-ultra

ahaha people are getting crazy about linx stressing, i can do 20linx pass and still crash while playing bfbc2, uneeded stressing indeed it is
04-03-2010, 09:07 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by mk-ultra

ahaha people are getting crazy about linx stressing, i can do 20linx pass and still crash while playing bfbc2, uneeded stressing indeed it is

In that case, you should tune/tweak your settings for the specific app first then retest for linx ;)
04-03-2010, 09:13 AM
Rubycon

Quote:

Originally Posted by mk-ultra

ahaha people are getting crazy about linx stressing, i can do 20linx pass and still crash while playing bfbc2, uneeded stressing indeed it is

Does that crash when your system is not overclocked?
Perhaps something else (outside of the cpu) is not liking your o/c well.

I see lots of screen shots with amounts different than ALL or 512MB that is all. Those simply cannot be taken as stable because it's not stressing the system fully. This seems to be an issue with systems with more than 8 threads as our Dual Xeons do this as well.

I can Prime95 a system day and night and the same system will produce an error in LinX 512MB in under a minute - sometimes 5 minutes. But it produces an error. Does it crash in Windows? Nope. Even after encoding a video taking 20 minutes no crash or artifacts either...

I guess some define stability differently. That is why I must acquire no less than TWO of everything in case it dies/breaks or whatever.

With CPUs if I have a system that's going to be overclocked I believe in the drive it like you stole it philosophy. That does not mean common sense goes out the window (drive off a cliff) and try silly things like 1.6 vcore etc. But you know what I mean.

Now if someone can tell me what those SIGNAL values in the Classified 762 BIOS are for... ;)
04-03-2010, 12:54 PM
mk-ultra

i don't run linx on my cpus anymore, vantage cpu test takes 2minutes and is as good at showing stability than those stressing tool

it was with w3520 that i experienced bsod in bfbc2 cod even after passing linx
but i don't want start a debate about this, i just personally think linx is a waste of cycles but that's just me
04-03-2010, 01:17 PM
SteveRo

Quote:

Originally Posted by mk-ultra

i don't run linx on my cpus anymore, vantage cpu test takes 2minutes and is as good at showing stability than those stressing tool

it was with w3520 that i experienced bsod in bfbc2 cod even after passing linx
but i don't want start a debate about this, i just personally think linx is a waste of cycles but that's just me

which vantage - 3dmark v cpu test?
04-03-2010, 01:23 PM
lowfat

Quote:

Originally Posted by mk-ultra

i don't run linx on my cpus anymore, vantage cpu test takes 2minutes and is as good at showing stability than those stressing tool

it was with w3520 that i experienced bsod in bfbc2 cod even after passing linx
but i don't want start a debate about this, i just personally think linx is a waste of cycles but that's just me

How much of a workload does your CPU do though? No way would I ever do a 2 minute test to have a machine that has all its threads under full load frequently.
04-03-2010, 01:35 PM
mk-ultra

yes 3dmark vantage cpu test

like i said it's not a be all end all stability test, neither is linx.

vantage cpu test tells me what i can expect, encoding in h264 will tell me if i'm bulletproof or not. If there's some small voltage adjustment to be made i'll do them if x264 process fails

what i do with my cpu?
i encode with x264 and play games and overclock,
no i'm not a folder, so i'm not stressing 24/7

so basically, my goal is to be stable with x264, no way i'm running linx just for kicks when i can encode and make sure my oc is stable at the same time.
you can run linx all your life for all i care, i don't talk for everybody out there, i'm talking for myself, and a way to determine MY oc that i know will works for ME
04-03-2010, 01:37 PM
Rubycon

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowfat

How much of a workload does your CPU do though? No way would I ever do a 2 minute test to have a machine that has all its threads under full load frequently.

This.

The purpose of repeated/prolonged test is to produce a failure. If a system passes at 10X then try 20X (or longer). You do reach the point of diminishing returns as you increase time. There is no guarantee of assured stability outside of running stock. But that's about as boring as reading a book on kitchen safety so I will not even go there. (or get a Dell!)

If this particular test could be looped that may be much more reliable.
I wish there were a way to loop cinebench and this fractal benchmark I have. That one produces more stress than Linpack but does not loop. I've verified it by power readings on line analyzers.

LinX is a good place to start. Put it on and go to bed. If you pass then move on to something else. (or do what any self respecting overclocker does - jack up the speed!)
04-03-2010, 09:40 PM
tool_462

Can we try to avoid turning another thread into a useless and rehashed "how stable is stable?" discussion?

On note of the topic, I had my block off my chip and was going to check the batch...then I forgot :p:
04-04-2010, 02:33 AM
NCspecV81

3003b242

http://www.overclock.net/gallery/data/500/gtx2s2.png

http://www.overclock.net/gallery/dat...b242i7980x.png

cpuz for normal air @ 1.5v

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1112096

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/1112096.png

SS cooling on the 980 and stock on the 5870

http://www.overclock.net/gallery/dat...glestage06.JPG
04-04-2010, 02:36 AM
zalbard

That's a strong chip! :up:
What were your temps?
04-04-2010, 02:44 AM
lawtq

Best batch I think!!
04-04-2010, 03:25 AM
crashmax

Wow. Great Chip you have!!! Have the same Dominator GTX2 ordered.

Dou you use a Clssified 760 Mobo?
04-04-2010, 06:17 AM
MetalRacer

Batch 3003B287.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100404/WPrime 3.787062.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/100404/Capture099.jpg
04-04-2010, 06:53 AM
lawtq

Exact same volts, batch and OC I have, great isnt it?! Especiall for 4.5ghz HT!!!!!
04-04-2010, 07:14 AM
mk-ultra

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool_462

Can we try to avoid turning another thread into a useless and rehashed "how stable is stable?" discussion?

i agree, but first post ask for prime or linx so idk
here's some action without using any retarted unneeded stressing tool, since the last few posts seem to be that way

Batch:3001B331
Watercooling testing

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/1115620.png

http://imgur.com/t9EJVl.jpg

http://imgur.com/eQzHjl.jpg

http://imgur.com/fJCC4l.jpg
04-04-2010, 09:30 AM
Rubycon

There should be a new thread altogether on stress testing these new chips. They are completely different than previous versions.

Also a 1024MB vprime or Vantage score does nothing to show that the o/c is stable enough to use for a real world use. Those 5GHz+ shots are fine but if the system cannot be used (after all if you have six cores you bought them for true MP use not gaming or surfing! ;) ) in the real world.

I'm finding clocks that I THOUGHT were stable are hardly stable and bringing the speeds way down. With six cores a lot of the software (especially with HT ON) cannot properly stress these cores out like previous chips.

That said none of my chips are close to what the B batches are doing but then again my testing methodology is apparently much stricter as well. Kind of throwing the baby out with the bath water here. :eek:
04-04-2010, 12:19 PM
gosmeyer

^^+1^^
04-05-2010, 03:04 PM
Sam_oslo

Nobody is kicking on bad RAM and Uncore performance on these chips?

These chips have less read/write and higher latencies on RAM (compared to 45nm chips), and the lack of performance gets even more noticeable on Uncore.
These CPUs seams to need a high Uncore to perform at their peak, but the 12MB cache is making it really difficult to OC the Uncore. Anybody has found workarounds or ideas around this?
04-05-2010, 03:37 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubycon

There should be a new thread altogether on stress testing these new chips. They are completely different than previous versions.

Also a 1024MB vprime or Vantage score does nothing to show that the o/c is stable enough to use for a real world use. Those 5GHz+ shots are fine but if the system cannot be used (after all if you have six cores you bought them for true MP use not gaming or surfing! ;) ) in the real world.

I'm finding clocks that I THOUGHT were stable are hardly stable and bringing the speeds way down. With six cores a lot of the software (especially with HT ON) cannot properly stress these cores out like previous chips.

That said none of my chips are close to what the B batches are doing but then again my testing methodology is apparently much stricter as well. Kind of throwing the baby out with the bath water here. :eek:

Some thoughts and I defer in the knowledge dept to many of you.
I've been running first A step 2530's then B step X5680's since last fall.
First on a SM X8DA3 board so no overclocking possible.
Never an issue, 10C cooler than the quad Gainestowns at the same speeds and app 50% more on the work end so scaling was darned close to perfect.
Then I got this EVGA board and had the ability to really see what the X5680's would do.
Excellent as long as you understand the limitations.
For normal usage( read that as air cooling) as long as you stay under 175 BCLK with a max of 1.4vcore,1.35VTT your fine.
Go over that and this is where you will start to kill these cpu's.
Not today, not in a week but you will.
Decide what you want. Long term excellent power or short term HUGE power?
To me this is too expensive a hobby not to use your smarts and work within what we are finding to be the known parameters of the chips.
I know everyone wants that magic 4GHz number for daily usage but the reality is unless your willing to buy the absolute top chip that 4GHz isn't there.
My X5680's have a 25 multi and for 24/7 100% load work I'm at 4152mhz..25x166..1.375vcore and 1.3VTT.
Yes, I can go higher and have but not for long term use.
Remember the differences between the 65nm Kentsfields and the 45nm Yorkies?
How many people killed Yorkies with high VTT added in with high vcore?
History is repeating itself with these.
Now before you all put my comments down to a old fart whose too conservative think again. ALL I care about is not seeing you guys lose a ton of money that you've invested.

Thanks for reading.
04-05-2010, 04:03 PM
Sam_oslo

^^ You have several good points there.

Benching is always fun and good to push it to the edge, but it is not a good Idea to push the system to the limits for 24/7 use, specially for heavy duty systems, because you get some extra power-usage and heat overhead to deal with.

These 6C/12T CPUs are monsters even at moderate OC, and it is always a good idea to play safe until we get to know these chips, and what kind of torture they can take for 24/7.

I've been doing some overnight 3D-rendering on my X5650 @3.8Ghz 1.21v VVT=1.32v, and it is much faster than my good old w3250 @4.2GHz 1.20v. And now, the Load-temp is almost the same as the Idle-temp as before :D
These X56xx chips will shine in a double socket MB, and I'm waiting for EVGA RS2 before I seriously try to kill it. ;)
04-05-2010, 04:17 PM
systemviper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

I've been doing some overnight 3D-rendering on my X5650 @3.8Ghz 1.21v VVT=1.32v, and it is much faster than my good old w3250 @4.2GHz 1.20v.

What would "it is much faster " mean, is it 10min faster an hour, takes half the time, i am just looking for some real world measures and it looks like your going down that path.

thanks in advance for the info:up:
04-05-2010, 04:39 PM
Sam_oslo

Quote:

Originally Posted by systemviper

What would "it is much faster " mean, is it 10min faster an hour, takes half the time, i am just looking for some real world measures and it looks like your going down that path.

thanks in advance for the info:up:

I will build a new system with my good old w3520 soon and then i can compare directly, but for now I can't compare them directly for real 3D-render jobs. I have to guess, my overnight 3D-renders seams to be running ~30% faster with my current "moderate" OC.
For now I can compare the CineBENCH 11.5 on the same MB and same RAM, X5650 @3.8GHz, 9.98 pts vs w3520 @4.5GHz, 7.7 pts.
04-05-2010, 04:40 PM
Rubycon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

Nobody is kicking on bad RAM and Uncore performance on these chips?

These chips have less read/write and higher latencies on RAM (compared to 45nm chips), and the lack of performance gets even more noticeable on Uncore.
These CPUs seams to need a high Uncore to perform at their peak, but the 12MB cache is making it really difficult to OC the Uncore. Anybody has found workarounds or ideas around this?

If you sacrifice BCLK speed you can run your uncore higher for lower latency and better memory throughput. Remember there is a limit in throughput whether its achieved through MHz or timings. Pick your poison and play as hard as you like. As long as you don't go outrageous on voltages you should be OK.

Another thing - voltages! NEVER take software readings for real. Fortunately on the Classified boards the e-leet software seems to show considerably HIGHER than actual (metered) results for VCORE and VTT - both which are crucial if you run at the limits.

As someone mentioned before we should have a dedicated GT thread and just leave this discussion to batch overclock results. :)
04-15-2010, 01:21 PM
Bodar

Has anyone heard anything about this batch number???? cant find it anywhere? :) Thanks!
3005f671
04-15-2010, 01:50 PM
poke349

Speaking on LinX not being able to use 6/12...
If there isn't a single stress test that can test everything... Maybe run multiple of them?

Say prime or LinX along with something more uncore/memory intensive such as HyperPi or MemTest of some sort.
04-17-2010, 05:39 AM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by poke349

Speaking on LinX not being able to use 6/12...
If there isn't a single stress test that can test everything... Maybe run multiple of them?

Say prime or LinX along with something more uncore/memory intensive such as HyperPi or MemTest of some sort.

Yeah, since LinX only works well with 512MB... Could maybe try a few LinX instances at the same time.
04-17-2010, 08:18 AM
poke349

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalbard

Yeah, since LinX only works well with 512MB... Could maybe try a few LinX instances at the same time.

That's actually not a good idea.
As far as I can tell, Linpack is very carefully tuned for the size of your cache so running multiple instances is just going to thrash the same resources.
Result: less intensive load due to cache contention.

As a side note: Running max memory isn't exactly fair.
The more memory you use the longer each iteration is. (I tried running Linpack at max memory on my 64GB workstation once... half an hour later, still hadn't finished a single pass... :rofl::rofl::rofl:)
04-18-2010, 10:17 AM
mbreslin

3003b396: seems to need more voltage than other batches to be stable. :/
04-18-2010, 11:04 AM
The Water Dog

Mine is 3003B396, and is pretty happy with it so far.
Havent tested much yet but i think its not bad. Just have to treat it like your woman:kissbutt:
04-19-2010, 06:57 AM
zalbard

Just to bump this thread... If you see a post with some valid info (that can be used in the post #2) somewhere, feel free to PM me or link it here, and I will add it to the list.
Thank you for your cooperation. :)

Oh, and updated! :D
05-23-2010, 01:18 AM
marcolecorse

Hello

My 980X 3003B178

Test Wprime 32&1024 H2O
http://just.dod.it.free.fr/I7/009%20...1024%20H2O.jpg
http://just.dod.it.free.fr/I7/010%20...1024%20H2O.jpg
05-24-2010, 02:56 AM
Toolius

i just got mine too
3005F584 batch..
any word on this batch ? seems the 3005's are the new batches out ..
cheers guys !
05-24-2010, 06:44 AM
Sam_oslo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toolius

i just got mine too
3005F584 batch..
any word on this batch ? seems the 3005's are the new batches out ..
cheers guys !

Yeah 3005 is new. It is interesting to see if it can still keep up with earlier batch#s.
Keep us informed about the OC-headroom.
05-25-2010, 06:55 PM
needforspeed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

Yeah 3005 is new. It is interesting to see if it can still keep up with earlier batch#s.
Keep us informed about the OC-headroom.

I cound not resist and got a 3005f at Frys at the weekend.. Was not impressed.

Struggled to get 4500 with HT off 1.47v +/-.. one core was 10-12 deg Hotter than the rest.. I was up in to high 80s... wasnot a keeper

.. I promptly pulled it put and got a refund.. I hope others have better luck. it was my first gulftown experience and not too impressed. probably wont return
05-25-2010, 09:24 PM
Nostromo

3005F are old :) I got a 3005F from fry's on day of release.

It does 4.5 HT on at 1.458 but a few of my cores read way low but when loaded seem to equalize with others.
Also 3916 uncore, memory 2100 8-8-8 timings vtt +150 (1.35 on classy) bclk 150*30
I am running it currently on classified 760..
I also have a second 3005F and 3003B still in boxes yer to try, also purchased within one week of 980X release.
05-25-2010, 10:08 PM
Sam_oslo

^^ That 3003B is probably the best one, try it.

It doesn't matter when you've bought them, the 3005's are produced 2 weeks after 3003's, and it doesn't need to take more than 2 weeks actually, but these may sill be good too.
Sometimes it may wary among the same batch# too, but generally it is interesting to see how long it takes before the good batch#s disappear, and 2 weeks is a long time.

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