GIGABTE 890GPA-UD3H OC testing

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03-09-2010, 06:45 PM
chew*

GIGABTE 890GPA-UD3H OC testing

So I just got this board today lets see what mischevious things we can do to err I mean with it.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%20890GPA/IMG_2234.JPG

Now the first thing to slap you in the face, well maybe not you but me was this picture boasting 3300+ 06 on the HD 4290 IGP.

Where's that O realllly owl when you need him.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%20890GPA/IMG_2248.jpg

Figured this was likely somthing that would require Cold to acchieve but hey what the heck lets give it a try on air.

AMD phenom II x2 550
GIGABYTE 890GPA-UD3H
OCZ BE 1600 c7
HD4290 IGP
pc p&c 1200 turbocool
Stock cpu cooler and misc fans on board.

Second 06 run = 3333 but we don't need that screenshot ;)

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%20890GPA/IMG_2244.jpg

Ok 3d looks strong lets rip through the whole 3d bench regime.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%2089...203d01%203.jpg

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%2089...203d03%203.jpg

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%2089...203d05%203.jpg

I guess GIGABYTE can start claiming 3400+ 06 on the boxes now.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...203d06%203.jpg

Not sure if this was more painfull for the IGP or me....

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...%20vantage.jpg

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%2089...uamark%203.jpg

Anyway enjoy, more benches to come but I need a nap and some tylenol, got like 3 hours of sleep last night.
03-09-2010, 06:54 PM
dinos22

Good stuff man. I like the 3400 3DMARK06...very nice
03-09-2010, 07:26 PM
BrokenWall

Any way to force unlocking on this board like the ASUS models?
03-09-2010, 07:30 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrokenWall

Any way to force unlocking on this board like the ASUS models?

Not to my knowledge as of yet.
03-09-2010, 08:42 PM
ViViD

Good Work
Can U Show Me Graphic Tab In CPUZ :)
03-09-2010, 09:10 PM
Glow9

Did you have a 790 based board before? How do the OC's compare?

Also what is that thing in your pci slot?
03-10-2010, 04:06 AM
jonspd

debug or diagnostic card whichever term you refer I guess...
03-10-2010, 04:30 AM
reza_xxx

wow nice board...hummmm
and great 4290 graphic
03-10-2010, 05:05 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViViD

Good Work
Can U Show Me Graphic Tab In CPUZ :)

If your suggesting im using hybrid kinda hard to stuff a card where that fan is.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...g_IMG_2243.jpg
03-10-2010, 11:03 AM
FlanK3r

have u some old graphic card for comparsion? Maybe x1600pro or x1600xt?
03-10-2010, 12:18 PM
Leeghoofd

Go go Chew !!
03-10-2010, 01:03 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

have u some old graphic card for comparsion? Maybe x1600pro or x1600xt?

preety sure it beat my 2400 XT with a cpu at 6gig on ln2 LOL, that would likely be the type of card tossed in a mediacenter.
03-10-2010, 01:14 PM
FatAlbert

ln2 party soon chew? huh :rolleyes:
03-10-2010, 01:19 PM
chew*

Nah no need for ln2 on this, phase on cpu/di on gpu likely max it all the way out, tbh anymore than that is a waste of resources.

The 2400XT was run by hicookie for a gag in 06 at 6+, think it hit 1500 points in 06.
03-10-2010, 01:22 PM
FatAlbert

I was talking about cpu :D
03-10-2010, 01:24 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatalbert

I was talking about cpu :D

Ahh yah I have 2 chips here that have a eventual date with ln2, 550,555 and I believe msimax may also come up and beat on a TWKR.
03-10-2010, 01:32 PM
FatAlbert

nice to hear it :D

if you know something more about it, could you pm with details if this will be live ? :D

I may do update on schedule for other users :)
03-10-2010, 01:54 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatalbert

nice to hear it :D

if you know something more about it, could you pm with details if this will be live ? :D

I may do update on schedule for other users :)

Sure but usually i'm a fly by the seat of my pants type guy, but when msimax comes up it's usually something with at least a days notice.
03-10-2010, 02:25 PM
FatAlbert

no problem with that :)

also you can write short post in schedule thread :D

if I will able to watch I will do it :D

eot :D sorry chew ;)
03-10-2010, 04:44 PM
chew*

Np man.

Ok moving on.

Prime stable, seem to have neither lost nor gained anything clockwise from data I have collected on this chip.

Swapped to my tru 120, also might note that ram clearance is fine in the back slots for ram with tall spreaders.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...d_IMG_2252.jpg

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%20890GPA/prime%2095.JPG

4.5 is easy

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%20890GPA/4.5.JPG
03-11-2010, 09:51 AM
FlanK3r

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

preety sure it beat my 2400 XT with a cpu at 6gig on ln2 LOL, that would likely be the type of card tossed in a mediacenter.

maybe for old nice games as Quake3, CS, Starcraft :)
03-11-2010, 06:05 PM
chew*

So I was doing some air comparisons when i stumbled onto some serious 3d03 performance. Looks like this is one of the boards strong points.

I tossed the system on phase and grabbed a quick #6 2x 4850 spot on the bot with 2 4850's on air in 03.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%2089...50%20phase.jpg
03-12-2010, 09:48 AM
chew*

Anything in particular anyone wants to see tested feel free to ask, i'm just sifting and running stuff no rhyme or reason, mainly searching for bug's issues etc etc.

Atm it appears that NB/ram clocking needs a little work but other than that no major issues yet.
03-12-2010, 10:02 AM
FatAlbert

how about high htt ? let's say 400mhz + ? :rolleyes:
03-12-2010, 10:06 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatalbert

how about high htt ? let's say 400mhz + ? :rolleyes:

Will give it a shot but most ddr 3 boards have issues with that, plus it's tied into ram compatibility and this board needs a little work in that department.
03-12-2010, 10:17 AM
FatAlbert

that sucks. so no idea what test you could do :)

maybe fast test mhz vs mhz in 3d marks ? little comparison as you did in the past (as far I remember correctly) :D
03-12-2010, 10:28 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatalbert

that sucks. so no idea what test you could do :)

maybe fast test mhz vs mhz in 3d marks ? little comparison as you did in the past (as far I remember correctly) :D

Sure I will give HT a go though first just to see what boards max is. I can retest as bios progresses.
03-12-2010, 10:38 AM
FatAlbert

waiting for tests :up:
03-12-2010, 12:12 PM
gOtVoltage

Will there be a hybrid option on this one? Unlocking

What do ya think about its onboard Raid capability..? Suppose to be better than 790 correct.

Looks to be a great OC Midrange Mobo for Xfire ...@16x 8x?
l

Very Overclockable n your hands.:D

Sorry for all the Q's ,

gOtVolTage
03-12-2010, 04:48 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by gOtVoltage

Will there be a hybrid option on this one? Unlocking

What do ya think about its onboard Raid capability..? Suppose to be better than 790 correct.

Looks to be a great OC Midrange Mobo for Xfire ...@16x 8x?
l

Very Overclockable n your hands.:D

Sorry for all the Q's ,

gOtVolTage

From what I understand this board will not unlock chips although as always things are subject to change.

Hmm raid and ocing IMO don't go hand in hand, unfortunately I do not have sata3 drive or more than 1 ssd nor the funds to purchase so I can't help much on that topic.

Cross fire = 8x by 8x.
03-12-2010, 04:51 PM
BeepBeep2

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

From what I understand this board will not unlock chips although as always things are subject to change.

Hmm raid and ocing IMO don't go hand in hand, unfortunately I do not have sata3 drive or more than 1 ssd nor the funds to purchase so I can't help much on that topic.

Cross fire = 8x by 8x.

I'm running RAID 0 on this board and I was also on the old board and I'm sure it works fine. The array may take a good 5-10 seconds to recover on boot after a BSOD but it actually works quite well. I never lost my array once over the last year. :up:
03-12-2010, 07:30 PM
chew*

AMD Phenom II x4 965BE (known good to 430+ on ddr II board)
GIGABYTE 890GPA-UD3H (F4c bios)
2x2 OCZ BE 1600 c7
PC P&C 1200 turbocool
GIGABYTE Radeon HD 4850
IDE hard drive

Coldboot limit

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%2089...20334%20HT.jpg

Software stable limit ( 365 is doable but eventually hangs )

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%2089...20software.jpg
03-12-2010, 07:51 PM
El Gappo

Is there still a brick wall holding the memory back on these new gigas? Thought with 1866+ on the box it might of changed :confused:
03-12-2010, 08:24 PM
BeepBeep2

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Gappo

Is there still a brick wall holding the memory back on these new gigas? Thought with 1866+ on the box it might of changed :confused:

What do you mean by the brick wall? The first wall of 1920 or something of that nature was an IMC limit, nobody had seen an IMC able to do anything over that until chew* got a great CPU with really strong IMC or something :confused:
03-12-2010, 08:25 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Gappo

Is there still a brick wall holding the memory back on these new gigas? Thought with 1866+ on the box it might of changed :confused:

No clue haven't got to serious mem testing yet, working on it now.

*EDIT* now to answer your question after doing some testing.

Lets set the "scene" first.

965BE
890GPA-UD3H
Corsair 1866 7-8-7
Air cooling TRUE 120 w 2000 moderate fan at normal ambient

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%20890GPA/IMG_2257.jpg

Tested speed that I know have passed on gigabyte with this particular set with cpu low to eliminate it from the equasion.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%20890GPA/ram.JPG

I pushed it a little further.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%20890GPA/1800ram.JPG

Now gigabyte specs there board to run 1866, Corsair specs there ram to run 1866 @ 7-8-7, AMD only specs there cpu's to 1600.

Thats said I'm preety sure you can see what your "brick wall" is with this screenshot.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/GIGA%20890GPA/1864ram.JPG
03-13-2010, 09:52 AM
El Gappo

Yeah I think you found it :rofl:

Really hope these ram issues get sorted, love my gigabyte boards but I cant stand them getting shown up by the asus counterparts :(

Thanks for posting this, would of probably gone ahead and bought one if I hadn't seen the htt and ram limits :shrug:
03-13-2010, 10:10 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Gappo

Yeah I think you found it :rofl:

Really hope these ram issues get sorted, love my gigabyte boards but I cant stand them getting shown up by the asus counterparts :(

Thanks for posting this, would of probably gone ahead and bought one if I hadn't seen the htt and ram limits :shrug:

The HTT limit is there for all ddr III boards.....you might squeak a validation out at 400 ht.....but thats it, anything benchable beyond 370 is usually not happening.

I am working with manufacturers to fix this issue.

As far as ram + timings, this set isn't that great ( my best set is set aside for ln2 ) but performance is good.

I think your missing the picture that the cpu is the bad apple here not the board or corsair, dual channel the cpu can't do.

MSI has a cool new bios out that allows you to clock ram like a pro......

Don't go playing around on bot with it though the clocks artificial and you will get rolled in clock per clock ;)

Tony said it along time ago, use whats fast, not what you think is fast.
03-19-2010, 12:13 AM
crazydiamond

anything special with the cpu-nb on this board? i noticed in all your screens they were all about 2800 except one was 3200,, i just ran a bunch of 3dm06 w/ nb 2.6ghz 1.3v, but when i put it to 2.8ghz it freezes in cpu test 1 with all cpu-nb volt options between 1.3 & 1.475v :shrug: gonna mess with it more tomorrow but im goin to bed now.. what did you need for 1125mhz core, 1.5v?
03-19-2010, 12:23 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazydiamond

anything special with the cpu-nb on this board? i noticed in all your screens they were all about 2800 except one was 3200,, i just ran a bunch of 3dm06 w/ nb 2.6ghz 1.3v, but when i put it to 2.8ghz it freezes in cpu test 1 with all cpu-nb volt options between 1.3 & 1.475v :shrug: gonna mess with it more tomorrow but im goin to bed now.. what did you need for 1125mhz core, 1.5v?

What I needed doesn't matter all silicon is individual, treat is as such ;)
03-19-2010, 12:35 AM
crazydiamond

understand that just was seeing if there was a trick to help cpu-nb stability or something, ran fine on my gd70 w/ 2.8ghz nb... also chip fails prime on here in 10 min or so @ 4.1ghz 1.53v (w/ stable cpu-nb) which was blend stable on air & water on gd70
03-19-2010, 12:52 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazydiamond

understand that just was seeing if there was a trick to help cpu-nb stability or something, ran fine on my gd70 w/ 2.8ghz nb... also chip fails prime on here in 10 min or so @ 4.1ghz 1.53v (w/ stable cpu-nb) which was blend stable on air & water on gd70

MSI GD70 runs slack performance settings to allow for artificially high clocks....It's also a mature platform.....890 is new and beta bios's are coming out almost bi weekly so it's far from mature.

Only tricks I know is knowing my hardware well and never expecting it to do XX speed at XX volts on any board I toss it in.
03-19-2010, 10:13 AM
crazydiamond

lol i wasnt expecting my chip to do any specific settings, just stating that after you said all silicon is individual .. also is there any data to back up the artificially high clocks? (not spi/ram performance, more from cpu p.o.v.?) because w/ all same exact settings & hardware except mobo there was only a 42pt difference in cpu score for me on 3dm06 which is normal for same clock speeds. also the gd70 had ~650pts more total 3dmarks :shrug:

gd70
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i8...htt14multi.jpg

ud3h
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i8...4multigiga.jpg
03-19-2010, 12:19 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazydiamond

lol i wasnt expecting my chip to do any specific settings, just stating that after you said all silicon is individual .. also is there any data to back up the artificially high clocks? (not spi/ram performance, more from cpu p.o.v.?) because w/ all same exact settings & hardware except mobo there was only a 42pt difference in cpu score for me on 3dm06 which is normal for same clock speeds. also the gd70 had ~650pts more total 3dmarks :shrug:

gd70
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i8...htt14multi.jpg

ud3h
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i8...4multigiga.jpg

gonna compare apples to oranges?

Bugdet IGP/HTPC board versus entusiast desktop. Mature bios versus brandy new and still needing tuning.

I'm not going to get into particulars.....just scan hwbot an you will get your answer......clock per clock it's slow thus no one uses it even though it clocks higher it still can't compete.....except in 3d

I have multiple boards here that i have tested, totally unbiased i use whatever works for the specific app I am working on, other than that a board is a board.....

Great board for mainstream if it has a good PWM, I'm on my 4th for air/water testing etc not what i call good QC or design.
03-19-2010, 05:29 PM
BeepBeep2

My board whines when I use more than 1.475v on load. So glad I've got a backup...

I don't understand why someone would conpare a 790FX GD70 to a mainstream + IGP board...

Maybe GD70 vs 890FX GD70? Dr Mos is here to save the day :)...nah really I own one foxconn (AM2), one MSI (<---Socket A!), and two gigabyte boards (AM2+, AM3).
03-19-2010, 06:47 PM
crazydiamond

wasnt tryin to make this about what board is better, just brought up the other board when he said it was the chip that couldnt push that far, and only compared their scores when he said msi has worse performance w/ same clocks.. my orig question was about clocking nb on the giga board nothing more, sorry
03-19-2010, 06:52 PM
BeepBeep2

Are you having trouble clocking the NB? At first is seems like the NB wont do anything but I managed to get up into the 2.8-3.0 range pretty easy after a while. It's just weird it seems.

EDIT:

In fact I'm running 2875 stable at 1.45v. Thats about the point where I get no more scaling, I have 2800 stable @ 1.375.
03-19-2010, 09:05 PM
uwackme

hmmm

I have the board and its great but I have two new Intel 80G G2 SSDs and the F4 bios doesn't see them for ahci or raid on the sata3 controller, and even though the sata2 controller does, Win7 refuses to load, even with the correct drivers, etc. Says the drive is unable to install OS on.

Took the two drives and put them in my 790GX board and they work fine, raid 0 or ahci and pull ATTO 479MB/s reads.

HardOCP review used two Intel 80G G1's and it worked fine, so maybe the drives are just too new?
03-19-2010, 09:32 PM
BeepBeep2

That really doesn't make sense...email Gigabyte?
03-20-2010, 02:18 AM
SSN774

Quote:

Originally Posted by uwackme

I have the board and its great but I have two new Intel 80G G2 SSDs and the F4 bios doesn't see them for ahci or raid on the sata3 controller, and even though the sata2 controller does, Win7 refuses to load, even with the correct drivers, etc. Says the drive is unable to install OS on.

Took the two drives and put them in my 790GX board and they work fine, raid 0 or ahci and pull ATTO 479MB/s reads.

HardOCP review used two Intel 80G G1's and it worked fine, so maybe the drives are just too new?

Hi,

thats the reason why i`m thinking what to buy, Gigabyte or MSI. Should I wait for 6 core AMD`s and then go shoppin?
03-20-2010, 02:44 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazydiamond

wasnt tryin to make this about what board is better, just brought up the other board when he said it was the chip that couldnt push that far, and only compared their scores when he said msi has worse performance w/ same clocks.. my orig question was about clocking nb on the giga board nothing more, sorry

Yah tbh I was just pointing out the how and the why some boards can do XX frequency and some boards can't.

Based on the ln2 results rolling in from some users 890 is having issues with nb clocking and not just giga.

Me personally I have had no issues so far, I have also not used ln2 so can't make any claims until further testing.

Should be adressed with time.

What I can say is I have a chip here that does 6.5/4700 NB on my giga.........the same chips does 6.8/5000 NB on msi however the performance at those max speeds is about equal except in 3d...which once again goes back to the explanation I gave you on the how and the why.
03-20-2010, 07:10 AM
_d_

nice one
03-28-2010, 09:08 AM
sponge bob

i have issues with ln2 on this board. It runs wprime or shm, then reboot, and it wont boot into windows :D even with stock settings. isolatsion is good . any tips ?
03-28-2010, 10:48 AM
chew*

Haven't had a chance to put under ln2 yet.
03-28-2010, 11:36 AM
Dumo

Quote:

Originally Posted by sponge bob

i have issues with ln2 on this board. It runs wprime or shm, then reboot, and it wont boot into windows :D even with stock settings. isolatsion is good . any tips ?

Yep, same here. Occasionally after trying so many times it will boot back. Difficult NB clocking too under LN2....

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&postcount=12
03-28-2010, 11:41 AM
chew*

New bios has surfaced since than dumo.
03-28-2010, 11:47 AM
Dumo

It was with F4c and F4 and finally revert back to F3

Board is awesome on 3D '03 though
03-28-2010, 11:50 AM
hicookie

06 is nice above 3400:up:
03-29-2010, 11:49 AM
sponge bob

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

Yep, same here. Occasionally after trying so many times it will boot back. Difficult NB clocking too under LN2....

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&postcount=12

damn , another :down: from gigabyte :D need to go back to my FXTA till new boards are ther. :rolleyes:
03-29-2010, 12:13 PM
Dumo

Quote:

Originally Posted by sponge bob

damn , another :down: from gigabyte :D need to go back to my FXTA till new boards are ther. :rolleyes:

Did you try F5 bios?
03-29-2010, 12:23 PM
BeepBeep2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

Did you try F5 bios?

I'm about to, I'm tired of the random RAIDXpert messages (I run RAID 0) and the random BSOD's related to USB
03-30-2010, 02:05 AM
sponge bob

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

Did you try F5 bios?

Yes, same sh**! it runs oc-ed , and randomly it wont boot into windows :D even at stock settings :rolleyes:
03-30-2010, 02:26 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by sponge bob

Yes, same sh**! it runs oc-ed , and randomly it wont boot into windows :D even at stock settings :rolleyes:

Do you know what post code it's reporting?
03-30-2010, 11:29 AM
redratamd

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4885/screen017j.jpg
Nice motherboard. :D
Crappy CW. :D

Edit. :D
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5289/screen018o.jpg
03-30-2010, 11:30 AM
FlanK3r

whau, 4GHZ Sempron!
03-30-2010, 12:01 PM
redratamd

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

whau, 4GHZ Sempron!

It's on air :p 28°C bios 20°C ambiant. I do 4** HT on an other mobo with 780a Nvidia. :D
04-20-2010, 11:59 PM
stasio

GA-890GPA-UD3H - F7b

# Improve power consumption
# Add CPU Core Control option(unlock core option)
04-21-2010, 11:54 AM
BeepBeep2

Thanks stasio! ;-)
04-24-2010, 09:15 PM
Shrekogre

anyone can verify f7b bios unlock cores?
04-25-2010, 08:34 AM
superpyton

Yes, it works. Tested with Athlon II X3 425.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9476/gigabyte.jpg

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