Asus EAH5870 reference design @ 1400 MHz GPU

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02-16-2010, 06:16 AM
Sampsa

Asus EAH5870 reference design @ 1400 MHz GPU

Seems like many vendors are bringing their own special designed ATI Radeon HD 5870 cards to market very shortly. I've been testing Asus EAH5870 graphics card based on reference design without any mods and it can do 1400 MHz on GPU in Vantage with LN2 cooling:

http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?i...se&iehack=.jpg

This run was done at -100 Celsius and 1,55V vGPU. Memory is at max from CCC.

Based on this result, we should expect minimum 1,4 GHz results on GPU from 5870 special designs with LN2 cooling.
02-16-2010, 06:33 AM
loopy83

Nice.... 1400MHz is awesome... so Lightning, Matrix and SOC have to clock very well... but I think they will do :)
02-16-2010, 06:38 AM
Gautam

Not at all easy to find a reference card capable of 1400 in Vantage...even less so when paired with such memory clocks. Definitely quite an achievement.
02-16-2010, 08:00 AM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

Not at all easy to find a reference card capable of 1400 in Vantage...even less so when paired with such memory clocks. Definitely quite an achievement.

QFT.
Very impressive, good job! :)
02-16-2010, 08:11 AM
dpa

nice going there Sampsa! 1400Mhz is killer ;)
02-16-2010, 08:44 AM
Olivon

Wow ! Impressive numbers you got there Sampsa :eek:

Well done ! :up:
02-16-2010, 09:17 AM
BenchZowner

In the end of the day it all comes down to the chip ( as long as the power supply circuit is adequate ).
Unless the Lightning / SOC manages to bench crazy high like 1500 GPU 1450 MEM, I'd consider the PWMs an overkill.
The fact that a mildly pimped ( modded ) reference card can get pretty close to ( or actually get ) 1400MHz through Vantage supports my opinion :p:
Look at the 2 reference cards Deanzo played with ( congrats mate btw :) ), Sampsa's, Stummerwinter's, and co.
02-16-2010, 09:58 AM
massman

I think you're almost right, BZ. You will need to go through a lot of reference cards to find samples that can do close to the custom PCBs. From what I've seen so far, it seems that both the MSI and the Gigabyte cards offer a higher constant in overclockability ... and in the end, it's those last 50MHz that count, right? :)
02-16-2010, 10:11 AM
BenchZowner

Right off my mouth Pieter :D
If the Lightning / SOC show a good average LN2 OC in the retail market, then every competitive overclocker must go for one ( or more :D )
02-16-2010, 11:24 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

Not at all easy to find a reference card capable of 1400 in Vantage...even less so when paired with such memory clocks. Definitely quite an achievement.

Well, massman said "beyond 1500 will be reality" so lets see how easy it will be to find R5870 Lightning capable of doing that :p:

Anyway, I'm looking forward to push this card even higher especially on memory clocks. Lets see if there is more left.
02-16-2010, 12:00 PM
Jowy Atreides

it wasn't so long ago that 1ghz gpu's were the things of dreams.
02-16-2010, 02:35 PM
proxis

How many cards did you get through to find this one?
02-16-2010, 02:57 PM
Monstru

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

If the Lightning / SOC show a good average LN2 OC in the retail market, then every competitive overclocker must go for one ( or more :D )

I don't want to be a party crasher, but what you really wanted to say was "every competitive overclocker must go for one untill the end of march" :rolleyes:

Sampsa - astonishing clocks bro!
02-16-2010, 03:06 PM
BenchZowner

You are a party pooper Monstru :D
There must be a reason for the "delay"... they're waiting for Fermi ( LOL j/k ) or they're doing what I said was kind of possible back in January, binning cores themselves.
02-17-2010, 08:45 PM
Gaul

and...........MAX on air is........GPU 1100-1150 ?
02-18-2010, 01:55 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstru

I don't want to be a party crasher, but what you really wanted to say was "every competitive overclocker must go for one untill the end of march" :rolleyes:

No, bro, just wait two months more. And then another two months. And then three months.

Thinking about it, overclocking is such a waste of money :rofl:

Then again ... it's fun!
02-18-2010, 03:28 AM
[XC] gomeler

Quote:

Originally Posted by massman

No, bro, just wait two months more. And then another two months. And then three months.

Thinking about it, overclocking is such a waste of money :rofl:

Then again ... it's fun!

Sometimes that is debatable :D
02-18-2010, 05:03 AM
erickwok

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

Seems like many vendors are bringing their own special designed ATI Radeon HD 5870 cards to market very shortly. I've been testing Asus EAH5870 graphics card based on reference design without any mods and it can do 1400 MHz on GPU in Vantage with LN2 cooling:

http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?i...se&iehack=.jpg

This run was done at -100 Celsius and 1,55V vGPU. Memory is at max from CCC.

Based on this result, we should expect minimum 1,4 GHz results on GPU from 5870 special designs with LN2 cooling.

Rampage III extreme :clap:
02-18-2010, 05:28 AM
BenchZowner

Quote:

Originally Posted by erickwok

Rampage III extreme :clap:

LOL ? Asus marketing rep or new in viral marketing ? :D :rofl:
03-12-2010, 01:06 AM
..::G80::..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

Seems like many vendors are bringing their own special designed ATI Radeon HD 5870 cards to market very shortly. I've been testing Asus EAH5870 graphics card based on reference design without any mods and it can do 1400 MHz on GPU in Vantage with LN2 cooling:

This run was done at -100 Celsius and 1,55V vGPU. Memory is at max from CCC.

Based on this result, we should expect minimum 1,4 GHz results on GPU from 5870 special designs with LN2 cooling.

Only vmod?
Any pics of the magic card? :D
03-13-2010, 04:14 AM
Olivon

Quote:

Originally Posted by proxis

How many cards did you get through to find this one?

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/attachmen...sus_intel1.jpg

:D
03-13-2010, 10:02 AM
K404

At what point do you guys think the cap mod becomes worth it? I've seen no sign of droop at all under water.... when does it start to affect clocks?
03-15-2010, 02:02 AM
PreacherMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olivon

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/attachmen...sus_intel1.jpg

:D

Hmm... Swedish moving boxes? :D
03-15-2010, 04:25 AM
Sampsa

I'll update results soon with Gulftown.
03-15-2010, 04:30 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by ..::G80::..

Only vmod?
Any pics of the magic card? :D

No mods, just sw, I'll post a pic of card next time.
03-15-2010, 06:21 AM
SoF

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

I'll update results soon with Gulftown.

Been waiting for a while - gogogo :D :up:
03-21-2010, 03:45 AM
Sampsa

3DMark Vantage single-card with Gulftown ES + Asus Rampage III Extreme and Asus EAH5870 (reference card):

System:

- Intel Gulftown ES CPU
- Asus Rampage III Extreme
- Corsair Dominator GTX2
- Intel X25-E SSD
- PC Power & Cooling 1200W
- Win 7 32-bit

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/vantage2.jpg

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/vantage3.jpg

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/gt_vantage1.jpg

This time I could push EAH5870's Cypress GPU to over 1400 MHz and Vantage was OK @ 1410 MHz (1,55V & -100 Celsius). Currently 2nd in hwbot.org 1xGPU ranking but no way to reach Nick's P31k score (2 CPUs and Classified SR-2).

http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...70_29637_marks
03-21-2010, 04:02 AM
FatAlbert

Sampsa is this RIIIE is retail or it's still sample ?

anyway nice score and very nice reference card! :D
03-21-2010, 04:10 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatAlbert

Sampsa is this RIIIE is retail or it's still sample ?

anyway nice score and very nice reference card! :D

Still sample, retails should be out from the owen any day now.
03-21-2010, 06:01 AM
SF3D

Nice VGA, but why rest of the system is on safe settings :D

:up:
03-21-2010, 10:04 AM
SoF

Quote:

Originally Posted by SF3D

Nice VGA, but why rest of the system is on safe settings :D

Safe settings to let people like me fighting with 27k looking not too shabby :ROTF:
Great run sampsa :up: Lovely GPU you have there :slobber:
03-21-2010, 12:49 PM
fuzz3l

@SoF:
:ROTF:

@Sampsa:
Great Setup. And the Board is just amazing, espicially the OC Panel...i need this one.
Can you tell me, when it will be ready to dance for everyone? :)

Regards
Christian
03-23-2010, 01:35 PM
Sampsa

I'll test next MSI R5870 Lightning and Asus ROG 5870 Matrix, also try to tweak rest of the system higher than "safe settings" :)
03-23-2010, 03:24 PM
Trembledust

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

I'll test next MSI R5870 Lightning and Asus ROG 5870 Matrix, also try to tweak rest of the system higher than "safe settings" :)

Oh defnately let us know how the Matrix does.
03-23-2010, 07:29 PM
IonRa

Quote:

Originally Posted by olivon

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/attachmen...sus_intel1.jpg

:d

\(* 0 *)/ wow
03-23-2010, 11:50 PM
zalbard

What's the batch # of your CPU? Seems like a great chip! :up:
And WTF, this 5870 is just sick! What did you do to the poor card?! :eek:
03-24-2010, 01:21 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalbard

What's the batch # of your CPU? Seems like a great chip! :up:
And WTF, this 5870 is just sick! What did you do to the poor card?! :eek:

CPU is normal A0 ES. For 5870 I just mounted the vga pot :)
03-24-2010, 04:25 AM
saaya

best of 16 only?
i didnt know 5870s clock that nicely on ln2...
03-24-2010, 07:07 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

best of 16 only?
i didnt know 5870s clock that nicely on ln2...

Couple didn't fit in the picture. Good Cypress can clock to 1400-1500 with LN2.
03-24-2010, 08:22 AM
0cool

Vcore Mod on PCB or just "soft" mod ?

nice scores ;)
Wait for lightning and Matrix
03-24-2010, 09:13 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0cool

Vcore Mod on PCB or just "soft" mod ?

nice scores ;)
Wait for lightning and Matrix

Just software to raise vgpu
03-24-2010, 09:58 AM
Brandybuck

very nice clock sampsa congrats:up: what do you think about RP3?
03-24-2010, 10:40 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandybuck

very nice clock sampsa congrats:up: what do you think about RP3?

I've been only testing sample board, better wait for final revision before conclusion :)
03-24-2010, 03:18 PM
G H Z

That's a nice card Sampsa, I'm interested to know how much of a difference you saw between this one and all the rest on air. It would be funny if this one outdid the other cards you plan on testing, let's hope not anyway :p:
03-25-2010, 12:31 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by G H Z

That's a nice card Sampsa, I'm interested to know how much of a difference you saw between this one and all the rest on air. It would be funny if this one outdid the other cards you plan on testing, let's hope not anyway :p:

On air 25-35 MHz higher, I could run Vantage GPU @ ~1080 MHz while others did 1050-1060 MHz. Mostly it's all about how good the GPU is, but strong GPU and strong PCB design of course helps :)
03-25-2010, 01:26 AM
saaya

very nice! did you test them on air as well?
what do the best cards clock to on air? :D

did you crack 30k already? :D
nice gulftown results... :toast:
03-25-2010, 05:01 AM
BenchZowner

I had a reference 5870 that used to pass Vantage at 1080/1300 with the stock cooler ( no mods, just raised Vgpu via software )... but with Dry Ice & LN2 it wouldn't get past 1300GPU & 1250 mem in any benchmark :D

Similarly, my newest ref. 5870 maxed out at 1055/1300 Vantage with the stock cooler, but did 1350/1240 on LN2.

I don't think pretesting on air/stock can be considered a good indication of how it might overclock at subzero temps.
03-25-2010, 08:45 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

I don't think pretesting on air/stock can be considered a good indication of how it might overclock at subzero temps.

Yes you are right, of course air pretesting is not sufficient for LN2 testing :) All cards were tested first with air and then with LN2. Couple samples overclocked well with air but couldn't handle cold, so we picked next in line..

:)
03-25-2010, 02:47 PM
SoF

I think the main problem on 5870 (reference!) is OVP, OCP and/or cold issues - hitting 1200 is no big deal on DICE, 1300 is relatively easy on LN2 but more than 1.45V (!!!) and a good scaling with cold is not that easy to find. as sampsa stated 1500+ should be realistic with enough good cards with the right pre-testing and hardmods. specially the hardmods for OVP should give you the needed boost.
03-28-2010, 01:16 AM
saaya

lol, i forgot to refresh the thread before posting my last reply, my bad :lol:
1080 on air only for the best card... hmmm... had expected more...

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