AMD AM3 Sempron 140 @ Athlon X2 440 :)

Hello everybody!

I have bought 3 Sempron 140 cpu and managed to unlock them all :) 3/3 --> 100% unlock ratio

Batch of all of them is 0927MPMW

30€ for X2 cpu, great job AMD :up: Low budget buyers will be so happy!

I will overclock them to test core and northbridge stability, but for now some pictures and validation...

Stay tuned! :up:


Validation - http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=703828

Screenshot - http://img196.imageshack.us/i/semprong.jpg/

CPU's - http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1382/dsc03044p.jpg

Batch - http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9407/dsc03047a.jpg

I love how the box says "True single core design." :rofl:


Nice work on the unlock. :up: Will be fun to see how these clock.

weren't you suppose to get an unlocked multiplier too ?

This one unlocks also and is prime stable @ default. Used it in a little HTPC for my bedroom and dont have the time or motivation to do any OCing.


http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...b/P9090065.jpg

mmmm 1mb l2 mmmmm

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Originally Posted by demonkevy666

weren't you suppose to get an unlocked multiplier too ?

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No, multi is locked...



Here are some benchmarks on air, I pick the best chip out of 3 for benching, all scores are wr's, first places at hwbot, I will continue to run other benchmarks if there are folks interested in other Sempron results

- Finding X1 max performance with max multi's 4076mhz cpu with 3020 nb and ht
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=707892

X2 benchmarks

- wprime32M 18.718s
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1...rime32m.th.jpg

-pifast 29.44s
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1128/pifast.th.jpg

-superpi 1M 19.141s
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2557/superpi1mj.th.jpg

wow sweet. thanks for sharing

i got some question for you :P

so to unlock the dual core all you do is turn on ACC?

and does temp monitor utilities work?

Yes, turn on ACC -> Auto and second core is unlocked with new cpu string and after that temp monitor doesn't work, cores are always 0°C

Little thread update, Sempron went under water, little vcore bump and X2 run...

So, X1 Sempron 140 air cooled run 4076.95MHz with 3020 NB and HT frequency; X2 Athlon 440 (ACC Auto) water cooled run 4171.69MHz with 3090 NB and HT frequency...

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=709139

Sempron is great 30€ overclocking fun :up:

fantastic work Cele!!
;)

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Originally Posted by Cele303

Little thread update, Sempron went under water, little vcore bump and X2 run...

So, X1 Sempron 140 air cooled run 4076.95MHz with 3020 NB and HT frequency; X2 Athlon 440 (ACC Auto) water cooled run 4171.69MHz with 3090 NB and HT frequency...

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=709139

Sempron is great 30€ overclocking fun :up:

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funny that unlocked clocks higher..

is it the same volt for 140 at 4076mhz?

thanks :up:


good to know something so cheap can turn out to be such a monster :slobber:

LOL, yeah, for ~$40 you have something that can hit 4GHz easily.

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Originally Posted by Nedjo

fantastic work Cele!!
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It is quite good performer...there is also 2x1MB L2 caches.

Because Regor is already small core, yield are high, and I suppose that the new Semrpon will be very successful "unlocker" :cool:

Thanks Nedjo, nice to see you! And drfedja, you too! :up: This time I have better ram for benchmarks, Super Talent 1800 CL7, last time with 250 and 550 I used Kingston 1866 CL9 but CL7 was impossible, now I'm satisfied with my ram...

Well here is mine, another one for the count of successful unlocks:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=711752

Not sure why it was rejected though. I will say when I was not unlocking it the CPU was "Unknown" and got the name Athlon II X2 4400e once I unlocked it, so perhaps it is because the board did not recognize it.

Will put it through Air/Water tests at some point :up:

Well here was just a few minutes of playing around. Used an S1283 air cooler:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=711816

Validated fine this time. Weird, oh well. I don't think the voltage I used was necessary, I am more just seeing how high it can go before I tweak anything. Had some weird issues with the ram/mobo playing together (my guess) once I got to 260Mhz, but working now. Not bad for a $29.99 CPU from Microcenter lol.

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Originally Posted by Cele303

Hello everybody!

I have bought 3 Sempron 140 cpu and managed to unlock them all :) 3/3 --> 100% unlock ratio

Batch of all of them is 0927MPMW

30€ for X2 cpu, great job AMD :up: Low budget buyers will be so happy!

I will overclock them to test core and northbridge stability, but for now some pictures and validation...

Stay tuned! :up:


Validation - http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=703828

Screenshot - http://img196.imageshack.us/i/semprong.jpg/

CPU's - http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1382/dsc03044p.jpg

Batch - http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9407/dsc03047a.jpg

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Good job Cele303. Did you unlock the second core on a Foxconn mobo? I didn't know Foxconn supported that. Also, is it a GX or FX SB750 board with the latest BIOS which I assume supports the new Sempron? Thanks!

@Neo4, Foxconn motherboards are very rare in my country so I don't know, but I think the best way to find informations about cpu compatibility list, bios updates and ACC is mailing their support...

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My last screenshots are showing unlocked Sempron results with few popular benchmarks, now few more with original 1 core, pushing harder with water cooling

Validation
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=715189

SuperPi 1M - 18.515s
http://i30.tinypic.com/awuq6v.jpg

SuperPi 32M - 17m1s
http://i32.tinypic.com/1zpnolk.jpg

wprime 32M - 35.875s
http://i25.tinypic.com/20zpna8.jpg

wprime 1024M - 1138s
http://i30.tinypic.com/281ctxj.jpg

Pifast - 28.33s
http://i31.tinypic.com/qpjio0.jpg

is the chip any cooler with with only 1 core enable and not both ?

gdje si dobio proc?

Sorry guys, didn't see these questions earlier...

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Originally Posted by demonkevy666

is the chip any cooler with with only 1 core enable and not both ?

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Yes, the chip is cooler with only one core, not a big difference though, with original one core Sempron II (Sargas) is 45W TDP and unlocked he becomes 65W TDP Athlon II (Regor)... As you can see in my suicide runs one core can push about 30mhz more than two cores, it allows you to use little bigger cpu vid and about +2 htt more but ACC can be pain in the ass on some motherboards or if you are overclocking not fully stable unlocked cpu...

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Originally Posted by TEDY

gdje si dobio proc?

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I think it is not polite to ask questions in our native language when we are here in world wide known forum, PM is better solution for that kind of questions, but the answer to you is I bought them from the main importer in my country, I'm small reseller

I got a Sempron 140 / Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H AM2+ 785g combo for $97.

0932EFM

Unlocks with 'EC Firmware' to Hybrid and 'ACC' to Auto ...

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/w...AthlonIIX2.jpg

Another Pic

Used an old Opty copper-heatpipe cooler. Don't know the temps but the heatpipes were still cool :D All I ran was the AOD stability test but I think I've got a bit more headroom. Need to cool the FETs .... but first have to remove the &^#! motherboard because the power button on the Silverstone case got stuck.

Did I mention that the *&$! case cost $20 more than the CPU/mobo combo? - LOL

Congratulations man! :up:

I have two more Semprons, one can unlock, one can't... It is 4/5 unlock success so far...

Validation

Screenshot

I pair Sempron with Asrock A770DE+, very cheap and great board, others components used were nearest my hand, to pair cpu and mbo with 2x2gb 1066 ddr2 cheap kingmax and ati 4670 the result is very nice and very cheap rig for low budget buyers...

Hey guyz, i managed to unlock my sempron 140 but i've been having problems with it when i unlock it. Tried using several operating systems.

- Windows XP sp2 32 bit = hangs on welcome screen but when i uninstall the sound drivers, it doesn't hang.
- Windows Vista Sp1 32 bit = hangs when i run 3dmark or any 3d games, even in Facebook.
- Windows 7 32 bit = no longer hangs in facebook but still hangs when i play any games that has 3D.
- Windows 7 64 bit 7600 build = same with windows 7 32 bit.

These things happen everytime i unlock it. but m not having any problems running in a single core. I also tried playing with the voltages but it didnt do anything that would help. anyone here knows what the problem could be?

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Originally Posted by istorya_19

Hey guyz, i managed to unlock my sempron 140 but i've been having problems with it when i unlock it. Tried using several operating systems.

- Windows XP sp2 32 bit = hangs on welcome screen but when i uninstall the sound drivers, it doesn't hang.
- Windows Vista Sp1 32 bit = hangs when i run 3dmark or any 3d games, even in Facebook.
- Windows 7 32 bit = no longer hangs in facebook but still hangs when i play any games that has 3D.
- Windows 7 64 bit 7600 build = same with windows 7 32 bit.

These things happen everytime i unlock it. but m not having any problems running in a single core. I also tried playing with the voltages but it didnt do anything that would help. anyone here knows what the problem could be?

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BTW, here's my specs:
Biostar TA790GXB A2+
BFG 9600 GT OC
2x1 GB Kingston Hyper X dd2 800
250 HD
500W Tacens Supero

You can try following:

-raise your cpu vid up to 1.40v (1.35v -> 1.40v )
-raise your cpu-nb vid up to 1.30v (1.17v -> 1.30v )
-lower your nb multi from 10 to 9 or 8 (2000 -> 1800 -> 1600 ) and after that also ht multi to follow nb frequency
-lower your ram divider (800 -> 667 )
-try other ACC values, if you use AUTO try other from -12 to +12 on all cores or per core
-see if newer bios is avaible for your mbo
-and last, try lower cpu multi for second core in AOD (13.5 -> 13.0 -> 12.5 etc ) if it helps you can create startup profile

i already did those things and i still get the same results. did i get a defective core?

It might be worth stripping your system to the bare minimum components & seeing if that makes a difference. If i saw those symptoms under normal circumstances I'd suspect the PSU not being able to deliver. Anyway, I wouldn't give up & wouldn't say the CPU was at fault until I'd eliminated all other possibilities. Best of luck & hope it works out for you.

i just recently bought a new PSU for my system and it dint to me any good. i still get the same results. also used the onboard video i still get the same results.:( i really dnt know...

Your second core is not fully stable or biostar bios is not the best one for unlocking, with your description of problems it looks like running windows XP is the most stable without sound driver (3D works?), probably cpu can't handle irq assignment with two cores enabled, do you have onboard sound or external pci / pci-e sound card? If you use onboard sound you can disable it in bios and borrow pci sound card from a friend or someone and than test your configuration again, if it works fine under XP than you can buy sound card and stick with most stable XP or if two cores is a must have (no htpc and gpu accelerated playback) you can sell your Sempron and buy regular X2 Athon II and problem solved

but what makes me really confused is that its Prime 95 stable for 6 hours...:(

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but what makes me really confused is that its Prime 95 stable for 6 hours...:(

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Prime 95 is simply not very reliable for stress-testing modern CPUs.

Hi Everyone

Got myself a sempron 140 BATCH: 0937FFI from Microcenter. Sucessfully unlocked it using an Asus Crosshair 3 mobo, BIOS Ver 1003. Thing to note, it failed to unlock with the default bios it shipped with - Ver 0703. Thought this info would be useful to someone as the previous one i got - BATCH 0932BPMW(??i already forgot..grr) failed.
Now, to overclock :D

Thanks for sharing useful information to others! :up:

Wow, 5500 thread views and still counting :) Viva la Sempron! :D

i also got this and asrock 780gmle/128 second core is stable but the problem im encountering is when i shut it off and turn back on sometimes its detected as sempron 140 , then i turn it off again and back on and its x2 again any settings you recommend?

i already tried per core / all core from +12 0 -12 settings still no luck on the sed problem

It is bios / ACC related problem and there is nothing you can do except for waiting the new bios version to arrive, if you have first release update it to P1.10, it is not so big problem as hitting reset button after power on which still shows up on some Asrock mobo's

Here's my chip:

Processor: Sempron 140
Stepping: BL-C2
Batch: 0948FPMW
Cooling - CPU: mini watercooler Tt Bigwater 760i (pump @ 7V)
Motherboard: ASUS M4A78T-E
Stability tests:
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9...371275vp95.png

I'm really satisfied, ~ 840MHz OC at ~ 0.1V undervolt :) Memories are 4x1GB cheapo Corsair XMS DDR3-1333 C9 hence crappy speed/timings.

Got one for a little fun with it.
Unlocked to X2:up:

Batch: 0944BPMW
Cooling: Scythe Infinity + 120mm fan.

http://www4.slikomat.com/09/1219/mzy-Orthos.jpg

Quick SPI1M and SPI32M.
http://www4.slikomat.com/09/1219/uqz-SPI1M-.jpg
http://www4.slikomat.com/09/1219/8fd-SPI32M.jpg

great oc and benching guys, :up: greetings from neighbourhood :)

I picked up a 0939 (had to! miss the 939 days), and it unlocked perfectly. The chip isn't stable at all in the GD70 though...even at stock settings.

I managed to get it up to 3.9 on the stock heatsink. It was for a low end build I gave to my dad. He has it now...so no more testing/screenshots :\

Cele303 I saw you had this thread started so I thought I would post some of my 140 results here unless you would rather I didn’t?

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...wprimecpuz.jpg

Bring it on man! :up: I'm proud to have unified thread, almost 7000 views! :up:

Your scores are awesome btw! :)

Thanks Cele303. I’ve read some of your posts and noticed you have some awesome results yourself.:clap:

I could unlock sempron 140 processor and its prime,occt,linx stable on stock.Actually I could easily overclock it to 3.7GHZ @1.475V.
I could actually get to 3.8 but requires > 1.5V :(. And my cpu temps are rather good at 45 degrees
cpu-z validation : CPU-Z Validator 3.1

One issue is, if I enable cnq my system just freezes when it tries to lower clock speed. Same behaviour at stock and overclocked. What do you guys think, problem with bios(790XT-UD4P) or processor?
cnq works ok without unlock.

batch :0944CFM

mine won't getting to windows unlocked :/, I haven't tried turning off cool & quite, yet though this was test on vista 64 bit. it's really gona have windows 7 on it. but for now the baord seems to be a bit weird it won't turn off lol it bsod's on turn off. ram is stzable windows is stable just happens when you go to shutdown :(

So we meet again cele :cool: Great job as usual.

Just got done with an entire 2d round up with the sempron 140 :D negative acc so gets me a red validation but w/e
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=965336
http://hwbot.org/community/submissio..._140_24.84_sec
http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...40_16sec_614ms
http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...in_34sec_929ms
http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...min_7sec_500ms
http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...40_31sec_435ms

It unlocks but Ive no need for it tbh, just gonna put this in a media center pc as an x2. £15 what a bargain.

Hey El Gappo! It's always pleasure to see you and I love to check your oc man! Oc with phase is brutal fun, I wish I have one :)

Can I ask you what's wrong in your 32M run with nb 2000? That was a quicky or not stable at 2000+ mhz?

What kind of weird stepping is this on Sempron 140 :) NAEIC AE 0942CFM
Does anybody know something about that stepping?

I ordered a Sempron 140, it will come on Monday.

The first ones were all CAEEC, now they are NAEIC, I don't know what is the difference between them, but if you can unlock it and oc it, who cares about the difference :) Give us some feedback when you receive it :up:

I will write when I have tried the sempron 140 and link to CPU-Z :)

btw, do you know something about AMD Phenom II X2 550BE Batch, CACYC AC 0941BPMW.
If it is a good overcklocker? Can not find any information about that :(
it is possible to unlock, so much I know, my friend have done that. But he is afraid to overclock :(

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Hey El Gappo! It's always pleasure to see you and I love to check your oc man! Oc with phase is brutal fun, I wish I have one :)

Can I ask you what's wrong in your 32M run with nb 2000? That was a quicky or not stable at 2000+ mhz?

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Likewise :) Yeah I was having issues with 32m and not equal errors but I had been benching the thing rotten all day long so I decided to put the 140 back in its blister pack and wait for even more cooling, fun little chip tho :cool: I did have a global cup for a little while. Think one of those ln2 guys had a backup and submitted after I beat him.

I've purchased: Phenom II X2 550, Phenom II X3 720, 2x Sempron 140, Athlon II 250. Out of all these chips, only 1 of the Semprons unlock to a dual, but it does 3.8+ as a dual!

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Originally Posted by Cele303

The first ones were all CAEEC, now they are NAEIC, I don't know what is the difference between them, but if you can unlock it and oc it, who cares about the difference :) Give us some feedback when you receive it :up:

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So far so good :)

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=974135

update :)

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=974627

Yeah, unlocking is not a guarantee for perfect operation.

You might want to increase the CPU voltage a very little, or play something around with ACC / AMD Overdrive in Windows, but thats it.

@Edit, oh shoes, this supposed to be a post of the first page lol.

Greetings to everyone... I've read this post several times now and I finally have the posibility to participate(new member). I own a sempron le 140 and a MSI 785gm-e51 motherboard, and I have tried lots of settings from the bios in order to unlock the second dormant core, acc on auto, special firmware on (unlock cpu core feature of MSI), voltage increase, nothing... a guy told me he had to use per core acc, with the values of +6 on the first core and -6 on the second in order to unlock his sempron le 140, but he was using a different motherboard... So, if any of you have this combination of motherboard and cpu and have succeeded in unlocking... please let me know what your bios settings were exactly

Yesterday I buy Sempron 140 with batch - 0930FPMW. It can be unlock?