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09-09-2009, 09:47 AM
okorop

Radeon HD 5870 Six with 6 display outputs, prices, performance

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,9887.html

A few weeks ago there were reports of another member of AMD's graphics card family Evergreen. The card was code-named Trillian and would not use a special GPU but instead be a very special model. There were talks about three graphics processor but more likely it would be a card with extra display outputs. We have learned that the card will be called Radeon HD 5870 Six and support no less than six monitors, all with 3D functionality.

Many are perhaps wondering how AMD managed to fit no less than six display outputs on the back of the same graphics card. The answer is DisplayPort, or more precise Mini DisplayPort.

The interface, used quite frequently by Apple, supports resolutions up to 2560x1600 pixels through a connector that is only a fraction of the size of a regular DVI output.

DVI. vs. Mini DisplayPort

The 3D support across multiple monitors have been improved significantly with the coming Evergreen family and Radeon HD 5870 Six will take this to a whole new level. Theoretically you could connect six monitors to one and the same graphics card, with tailored resolutions. Something that should not only appeal to simulator fans but also regular gamers, or why not just use it run of the mill applications.

According to the info we received all cards of the Evergreen family will work a lot better with multiple monitors, something we're truly looking forward to seeing more of. AMD has talked about better support for multiple monitors for many years, and finally it's happening, and the exact shape and form will be revealed soon.

We can also confirm the price information on Radeon HD 5850 and Radeon HD 5870, and they will be 299USD and 399USD respectively.

Even if we don't have any benchmarks to share, we have it on good authority that AMD's new Radeon HD 5800 series will bring between 25-40% better performance than current generation, depending on games and application.

The card will use 1GB GDDR5 memory but 2GB models are to be expected. We have learned a bit about the overclocking potential and it seems the 40nm technology has matured well. There are talks about overclocking to 1GHz GPU with the reference cooler, which is on par with the current flagship Radeon HD 4890 in terms of overclocking ability.

We hope to learn more about AMD's Evergreen family soon, very soon, and we will be covering the launch of the first DirectX 11 graphics cards. A launch where performance and features are almost equally important.
09-09-2009, 09:49 AM
Olivon

Quote:

Even if we don't have any benchmarks to share, we have it on good authority that AMD's new Radeon HD 5800 series will bring between 25-40% better performance than current generation, depending on games and application.

Really ? Not 160% ? :p:
09-09-2009, 09:51 AM
Bodkin

Quote:

Even if we don't have any benchmarks to share, we have it on good authority that AMD's new Radeon HD 5800 series will bring between 25-40% better performance than current generation, depending on games and application.

Oh....sigh
09-09-2009, 09:54 AM
SoulsCollective

I'm more interested in pricing info - Nordic is generally a reputable source. So, street price of between USD $350-450 for the 5870? And, what, $600-odd for the X2 part?
09-09-2009, 09:54 AM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bodkin

Oh....sigh

What no 250% improvement with another 150% improvement when overclocked? Sigh indeed...:D
09-09-2009, 09:54 AM
Etihtsarom

Uh...oh...The Tish is about to hit the fan...
09-09-2009, 09:55 AM
okorop

25-40% more performance than current generation is really poor if we consider rv770 as the current generation, if it is rv790 or even gt200 it is not poor at all.....anyway let's wait for some benchmark or news from internet :)
The intresting thing is the one talking about multi monitor tecnology, maybe it will be easier to use with the new generation of graphic cards :)
09-09-2009, 10:04 AM
Sh1tyMcGee

uhhhhh..... 25%-$40 for $399, cannot be true.
09-09-2009, 10:07 AM
informal

25% higher than "current generation"... which is... 4870X2 ? :D
09-09-2009, 10:07 AM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

25% higher than "current generation"... which is... 4870X2 ? :D

I hope so!!!!!!
09-09-2009, 10:08 AM
informal

1600SP and 80TMUs,it better do 25% over 4870CF!:)
Actually the memory bandwidth will probably somewhat bottleneck and limit both 58xx models,but we'll have to see to what extent.
09-09-2009, 10:11 AM
Bodkin

Quote:

Originally Posted by okorop

I hope so!!!!!!

if this is the case I will retract the sigh :P
09-09-2009, 10:14 AM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

1600SP and 80TMUs,it better do 25% over 4870CF!:)
Actually the memory bandwidth will probably somewhat bottleneck and limit both 58xx models,but we'll have to see to what extent.

The memory bandwidth could be limited by the 256 bus, but if you use ddr5 at high frequency it should be better.......right?
09-09-2009, 10:16 AM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by okorop

The memory bandwidth could be limited by the 256 bus, but if you use ddr5 at high frequency it should be better.......right?

Yes,but IIRC the memory will still be the same as it was on 4870s and even those were feeling the memory BW bottleneck(and those had "only" 800SP,40TMUs).
09-09-2009, 10:40 AM
spursindonesia

No 5 Gbps GDDR5 chips for HD 5870 at minimum ? If so, HD 5850 would give the best value if it's also endowed with GDDR5 memory.
09-09-2009, 10:46 AM
Smartidiot89

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

Yes,but IIRC the memory will still be the same as it was on 4870s and even those were feeling the memory BW bottleneck(and those had "only" 800SP,40TMUs).

According to Charlie 1,25GHz(5GHz effective) GDDR5 will be in use for HD5870.
09-09-2009, 10:48 AM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smartidiot89

According to Charlie 1,25GHz(5GHz effective) GDDR5 will be in use for HD5870.

a perfect so there will be less restriction in the bandwitch using the 5870 than 5850 :)
09-09-2009, 10:49 AM
annihilat0r

That 25-40% has to be pointing to the 4870 or GTX 285. There's no way 5870 can outperform a 4870x2 by such a margin
09-09-2009, 10:50 AM
FischOderAal

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

Yes,but IIRC the memory will still be the same as it was on 4870s and even those were feeling the memory BW bottleneck(and those had "only" 800SP,40TMUs).

If HD-5870 is indeed even more bw-limited than HD-4870, why would AMD go for 1600 SP in the first place? Don't you think they would've known how their chip behaves and save the space to get a cheaper GPU or add other logic?
09-09-2009, 10:51 AM
Jamesrt2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olivon

Really ? Not 160% ? :p:

depends how you look at it ;)

25/40% improvement "technically" could say its 125/140% of the current gen...

im sure the marketing will choose 125/140% though :)

(also we don't know what model too :( hope its x2 ;) that would be sick!)
09-09-2009, 10:53 AM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

That 25-40% has to be pointing to the 4870 or GTX 285. There's no way 5870 can outperform a 4870x2 by such a margin

are you sure? let's see :) if they did'not mention what the current generation is it is possible that they are comparing the performance of 58xx series with 4870 or 4890 or even 4870x2......If the 5870 will perform less than 4870x2 it would be very bad for amd.....
09-09-2009, 10:54 AM
Farinorco

Wow. 25-40% compared to what? If talking about 4850/4870 (equivalent cards from past generation) it's a very poor and disappointing increase. And if I'd talk about "better than previous generation" in a generic sense, I'd be talking about those cards (each one to the respective card from the old gen).

But anyway, now I'm all screwed up... the data doesn't add up...

If there are 2x processing units in the chip... and the rumored size of 300+ mm^2 would point to that...

If clocks are not much lower than past generation... and they're talking about overclocking up to ~1GHz frequencies so it doesn't seem like that...

If they are now using only GDDR5, so at least in the case of the 850 the memory bandwidth is going to be doubled too (same proportion than processing units)... and I don't think 870 need a doubling for several reasons... (mainly, the performance difference between 4850 and 4870, the former with half the bandwidth than the second)

All that doesn't add up...

Well, let's wait and see. If there's going to be a 25-40% performance increase for 299-399$, I'm going to feel very bad with this cards, sincerely...
09-09-2009, 10:55 AM
AKM

5870 pics it's bloody HUGE:shocked:
http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/...ssage/32550799
09-09-2009, 10:56 AM
Salavat23

It has to be 25-40% faster than the 4870x2.

Otherwise it would be pointless to even release the card if its 25% faster than a 4890 since you can get that performance for ~$200 with 4770 CF.
09-09-2009, 10:57 AM
Migi06

Quote:

Originally Posted by okorop

are you sure? let's see :) if they did'not mention what the current generation is it is possible that they are comparing the performance of 58xx series with 4870 or 4890 or even 4870x2......If the 5870 will perform less than 4870x2 it would be very bad for amd.....

It will have 4870x2 performance and near GTX 295... That's my bet. Not so many hours left...
09-09-2009, 11:01 AM
Chickenfeed

I really want to believe it 25-40% faster than the 4870x2. That would absolutely awesome. If its only being compared to R770 or R790 then I'll pass... At this point I'm assuming 1600SP is the case ( makes the most sense ) so I don't see a doubling of shader units, increased throughput and more rops as only managing 25-40% over a 4870...

Hopefully tomorrow something tangible is revealed...
09-09-2009, 11:02 AM
jam2k

Meet Cypress:

http://i32.tinypic.com/2e32yo2.jpg

http://i28.tinypic.com/mct20y.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/4ftp9h.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/2jb35hs.jpg
09-09-2009, 11:06 AM
okorop

it is quite big, is it 27 cm? More it does not fit in my case....:dho:
09-09-2009, 11:06 AM
Bojamijams

Wtf.. it has air intake ports? haha
09-09-2009, 11:08 AM
tdream

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

That 25-40% has to be pointing to the 4870 or GTX 285. There's no way 5870 can outperform a 4870x2 by such a margin

40% better than the 295 :p:
09-09-2009, 11:11 AM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdream

40% better than the 295 :p:

:eek:
09-09-2009, 11:12 AM
MirageSys

I don't believe the prices are correct. AMD wouldn't sell many 5870's at that price.

The only scenarios I see those prices being true are if:

1. AMD cannot make the cards in sufficient volume to price them at a lower point.
2. The performance of the 58 series will be hellishly fast.
09-09-2009, 11:14 AM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by MirageSys

I don't believe the prices are correct. AMD wouldn't sell many 5870's at that price.

The only scenarios I see those prices being true are if:

1. AMD cannot make the cards in sufficient volume to price them at a lower point.
2. The performance of the 58 series will be hellishly fast.

those prices were mentioned before in some news, so I think they are correct.....
09-09-2009, 11:15 AM
largon

Exactly the size of a 8800GTX.
09-09-2009, 11:18 AM
jaredpace

:eek2: Man that thing looks sweet. how long before we can see the pcb? :p:
09-09-2009, 11:18 AM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by largon

Exactly the size of a 8800GTX.

how do you say so? have you got it at home?
09-09-2009, 11:19 AM
largon

I wish I had.
09-09-2009, 11:21 AM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by largon

I wish I had.

lol me too, so how do you say that the dimension is like 8800gtx if you don't have the card? anyway I think it 's 27 cm...:)
09-09-2009, 11:26 AM
tajoh111

It wouldn't be the first time that bad drivers on the initial launch killed performance.

Remember people drivers, especially for new generation, can kill performance.

Not to mention, we could be reach a lower return in performance with increased specs since they have been using this type of architecture since 2900xt.

11 inches is monstrous those. How are they gonna make a x2 version?
09-09-2009, 11:28 AM
jaredpace

Quote:

Originally Posted by okorop

lol me too, so how do you say that the dimension is like 8800gtx if you don't have the card? anyway I think it 's 27 cm...:)

You're right! I post 26.6cm 3 weeks ago :)
09-09-2009, 11:28 AM
tdream

Quote:

Originally Posted by okorop

it is quite big, is it 27 cm? More it does not fit in my case....:dho:

It's only 1cm longer than the 285.
09-09-2009, 11:29 AM
AKM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tajoh111

It wouldn't be the first time that bad drivers on the initial launch killed performance.

Remember people drivers, especially for new generation, can kill performance.

Nah, AMD isn't that desperate to launch the card with bad drivers.
09-09-2009, 11:30 AM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by tajoh111

It wouldn't be the first time that bad drivers on the initial launch killed performance.

Remember people drivers, especially for new generation, can kill performance.

killing performance? what do you mean, drivers can only give a boost of 3-4%, 10% at least? More I don'think it is possible.....
09-09-2009, 11:33 AM
Smartidiot89

Quote:

Originally Posted by okorop

killing performance? what do you mean, drivers can only give a boost of 3-4%, 10% at least? More I don'think it is possible.....

Really?

Don't you remember how utterly useless GTX280 was at launch, and how it managed to give negative scaling in SLI many times:rofl::ROTF: Was fixed later with proper drivers:up:
09-09-2009, 11:37 AM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smartidiot89

Really?

Don't you remember how utterly useless GTX280 was at launch, and how it managed to give negative scaling in SLI many times:rofl::ROTF: Was fixed later with proper drivers:up:

Multi gpu performance are different than single gpu performance.....gtx280 was going fast at lanch and with nvida drvier had a good boost, but unfortunately nvida is better in releasing driver than ati, as we can see from the past generation
09-09-2009, 11:37 AM
Jamesrt2004

ok so the card is pretty much only a tiny bit bigger then a 4870 maybe 1cm/2cm more (compare pics online in paint scale them so the pcie slots roughly the same size to get an idea)
09-09-2009, 11:43 AM
SKYMTL

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaredpace

:eek2: Man that thing looks sweet. how long before we can see the pcb? :p:

Seriously, what makes it "look sweet"? The fact that it looks to have a red zipper between two pieces of plastic and a fan that looks starved for fresh air?
09-09-2009, 11:45 AM
jaredpace

4770 20.70cm
4870 24.13cm,
4870x2 26.67cm,
8800gtx 26.67cm,
5870 26.67cm,
4850x2 28.50cm
5870x2 ~29.45cm
09-09-2009, 11:47 AM
jaredpace

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKYMTL

Seriously, what makes it "look sweet"? The fact that it looks to have a red zipper between two pieces of plastic and a fan that looks starved for fresh air?

I think it looks cool, I like the design. :cool: It reminds me of a fastback
I also liked the 4870x2 cooler, and the 8800ultra cooler. What's your take on it?

http://i27.tinypic.com/2lkwsi8.jpg http://i26.tinypic.com/fkaz5y.jpg
09-09-2009, 11:52 AM
spoof

25-40% meets the leaked p21k on Vantage, so i think this is possible.
09-09-2009, 11:53 AM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoof

25-40% meets the leaked p21k on Vantage.

yes, it should be like that.....:) impossible is nothing ......
09-09-2009, 11:55 AM
MirageSys

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKYMTL

Seriously, what makes it "look sweet"? The fact that it looks to have a red zipper between two pieces of plastic and a fan that looks starved for fresh air?

I'm with you on this one. It looks like it needs a large hole cut in it.. ATI likes to make noisy leaf blower designs like this one.
09-09-2009, 11:57 AM
SimBy

I doubt it's gonna look like that when it hits retail.
09-09-2009, 12:14 PM
Manicdan

im a big fan of the clean look, i dont like a computer full of stickers.
09-09-2009, 12:14 PM
Jowy Atreides

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdream

40% better than the 295 :p:

Haha, if it were true it would be the best 'omfg' card release since the 8800 ultra
09-09-2009, 12:18 PM
Nedjo

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKM

5870 pics it's bloody HUGE:shocked:
http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/...ssage/32550799

BattleStar "galAcTIca" :D

http://tweakimg.net/g/forum/template...com/4ftp9h.jpg
09-09-2009, 12:30 PM
jaredpace

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoof

25-40% meets the leaked p21k on Vantage, so i think this is possible.

True. That puts it about 35% faster than a 4870x2, which does coincide with 21k P. Now that i think about it, 3870x2 = 4850, 4870 20% faster than 3870x2/4850...... so, 4870x2 = 5850, 5870 20-30% faster than 4870x2/5850?

Wow, if that's real, then it IS going to be faster than a GTX295 :eek:
09-09-2009, 12:32 PM
eric66

card looks great but 25 40 is very dissapointing hopefully its not true cause that means my next card will be prolly nvidia again
09-09-2009, 12:38 PM
LC_Nab

Maybe its a twin turbo intake ??? Almost looks like all you have to do is add 4 wheels and runs by it self .

But I hope its more than 25-40 % , man all this wait . T_T
09-09-2009, 12:39 PM
azraeel101

it looked awesome till I saw those big red intakes (?) in the front, those things are fugly
09-09-2009, 12:39 PM
initialised

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdream

40% better than the 295 :p:

40% better than GTX295, 25% better than MARS?
09-09-2009, 12:40 PM
Greg83

Hope those dual exhaust result in better cooling for the power regulation area.
09-09-2009, 12:44 PM
largon

Obviously, that "25-40% faster" is not over a single RV770...
09-09-2009, 12:49 PM
Sadasius

I don't give a rats behind what the cooler looks like. I will be using sexier waterblocks anyway! :up:
09-09-2009, 12:50 PM
initialised

Quote:

Originally Posted by largon

Obviously, that "25-40% faster" is not over a single RV770...

Hope not, should know more this time tomorrow, looks like it's a tightly controlled launch this time round. Not like the leakage wars we had between rival PC vendors in the days before the 4890 officially landed...
09-09-2009, 12:51 PM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by largon

Obviously, that "25-40% faster" is not over a single RV770...

Amazing how quickly people forget about the performance estimates of "better than 4870x2" and "near 4890CF/GTX295," it was only a couple weeks ago.
09-09-2009, 12:52 PM
Andrew LB

My first thoughts was it looked like an old Avante.

http://www.zentastic.com/iamimport/2...canadian-2.jpg
09-09-2009, 12:55 PM
Manicdan

if the original words were "faster than current generation" its all speculation of which card they are referring too. a good marketing department would probably rather say 2.5x faster than 4870, instead of 25% faster than unknown reference
09-09-2009, 12:57 PM
AMDDeathstar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedjo

BattleStar "galAcTIca" :D

http://tweakimg.net/g/forum/template...com/4ftp9h.jpg

It's the Batmobile
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...mobile_FMC.jpg
09-09-2009, 12:57 PM
FischOderAal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manicdan

a good marketing department

Um, are we talking about the same company here? ATI and good marketing :confused:
09-09-2009, 12:59 PM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by FischOderAal

Um, are we talking about the same company here? ATI and good marketing :confused:

i was talking about what was not being done. so i think we just agreed.
09-09-2009, 01:00 PM
Morais

6 outputs? I see 4 of them (without adapters)
09-09-2009, 01:01 PM
demonkevy666

it's not air intake, it's the two pci-express connectors.
09-09-2009, 01:02 PM
jaredpace

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew LB

My first thoughts was it looked like an old Avante.

http://www.zentastic.com/iamimport/2...canadian-2.jpg

:ROTF:

It does kinda look like this card though:
http://i27.tinypic.com/33o1bet.jpg http://i32.tinypic.com/54hde1.jpg
09-09-2009, 01:03 PM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonkevy666

it's not air intake, it's the two pci-express connectors.

really? I don't think so but if you have the card at home i belive you :)
09-09-2009, 01:04 PM
eric66

nice find
09-09-2009, 01:08 PM
demonkevy666

Quote:

Originally Posted by okorop

really? I don't think so but if you have the card at home i belive you :)

lol then again that would be odd place to put them.
09-09-2009, 01:09 PM
Manicdan

if only we had a pic of the top, darn those people who leak photos without 8 years of photography school
09-09-2009, 01:09 PM
largon

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonkevy666

it's not air intake, it's the two pci-express connectors.

The holes are actually there just for aesthetics. PCIe plugs are pointing to the same direction as the CF fingers.
09-09-2009, 01:09 PM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonkevy666

lol then again that would be odd place to put them.

I hope they will not put the pci e connectors at the back, I prefer to find it in the same position of the one on nvida gt200 card
09-09-2009, 01:11 PM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by okorop

I hope they will not put the pci e connectors at the back, I prefer to find it in the same position of the one on nvida gt200 card

i prefer to have a choice. i might want to have a case thats short, or skinny, and these cards are pushing the limits of small builds
09-09-2009, 01:15 PM
jaredpace

Quote:

Originally Posted by okorop

I hope they will not put the pci e connectors at the back, I prefer to find it in the same position of the one on nvida gt200 card

Only one spot for them according to the cooler, two connections on the top. according to chiphell, it's 2 6-pin
http://i30.tinypic.com/t9xr9w.jpg
09-09-2009, 01:23 PM
hurleybird

With a A 320mm2+ die simply scaling up RV770 would get more than 25-40% performance increase. They have enough room to basically double RV770 (minus mem controller), so 60% should be minimum if that's all they did. Then again, "trillian" might be lower clocked than a normal 5870. Nordic might have gotten that part wrong too, might be Juniper and not Cypress. Or they've got the number wrong, or by current gen they mean something beefier than RV770. In any case, 25-40% for RV870 over RV770 would be very dissapointing, but I'd be willing to bet most anything that the performance difference will be much greater than that.
09-09-2009, 01:31 PM
Sadasius

Maybe it is not just performance but also the features that these new cards will have. Will soon see what these things are made of and what features they have to sell.
09-09-2009, 01:33 PM
Olivon

Quote:

We made the decision to pull the story, sorry for any inconvenience. There will be more on the many flavors of Radeon in the future.

Story pulled.

//NordicHardware Crew

That's called Teasing :D
09-09-2009, 01:59 PM
RaZz!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olivon

That's called Teasing :D

what was the original content?
09-09-2009, 01:59 PM
marten_larsson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olivon

That's called Teasing :D

A bit strange IMO. Nordic has pulled two articles about the Cypress cards, seems like they are being fed FUD/getting sparse with real info (there by making it hard to draw conclusions) or are making stuff up and hoping people won't tell the difference. Since Nordic has been presenting quite a lot of credible ATI info in the past (IMO), the two former seem most likely.
09-09-2009, 02:09 PM
azraeel101

Didn't Andreas have an XS account? It would be nice if he told us what the sources were and which card was the "older generation"..
09-09-2009, 02:14 PM
Olivon

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaZz!

what was the original content?

Just look at the first post m8 ;)
09-09-2009, 02:17 PM
okorop

Quote:

Originally Posted by azraeel101

Didn't Andreas have an XS account? It would be nice if he told us what the sources were and which card was the "older generation"..

you are right it will be nice but.....nda it is still there :yepp:
09-09-2009, 02:18 PM
dinos22

very small opening for air to escape
why not can the second DVI port since you have that new display port thingie

looks big

wonder if the mount holes are still the same as 4870 and 4890 :)
09-09-2009, 02:18 PM
zanzabar

im really disappointed i hate display port and will not be buying anything with it
09-09-2009, 02:20 PM
HuffPCair

I just want pricing already so I can actually decide what card to buy.........
09-09-2009, 02:22 PM
RedBull78

Anyone know if this card will play on a 1.1 PCI-x ? I'm only looking to purchase one. Is 1.1 x16 lane enough?
09-09-2009, 02:31 PM
Jamesrt2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

very small opening for air to escape
why not can the second DVI port since you have that new display port thingie

looks big

wonder if the mount holes are still the same as 4870 and 4890 :)

nah vapour-x uses same sorta thing it works same, =) aslong as it's guided out there well it'll work fine

and the mount holes are standard arn't they? so I guess so/hope so (at xmas going w-cooling finally and want some futureproofing with the blocks)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBull78

Anyone know if this card will play on a 1.1 PCI-x ? I'm only looking to purchase one. Is 1.1 x16 lane enough?

yeah fine, x2 will notice the diff though
09-09-2009, 02:51 PM
eric66

is there a channel that will broadcast show live ?
09-09-2009, 02:59 PM
jaredpace

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

very small opening for air to escape
why not can the second DVI port since you have that new display port thingie

Yah i wonder same. why not put dvi-dvi-hdmi on bottom and the smaller displayport + extra vent holes on top slot? probably could have fit 3-4 more vents on the dvi side and 1-2 vent on the other.
http://i31.tinypic.com/2py705c.jpg
09-09-2009, 03:21 PM
Oberon

Quote:

Originally Posted by zanzabar

im really disappointed i hate display port and will not be buying anything with it

Good, more cards for the rest of us :D
09-09-2009, 03:28 PM
informal

Now that they pulled the story,I'm convinced the 5870 is roughly ~20% faster than 4870X2, on average. :D
09-09-2009, 03:32 PM
Frontl1ne

Maybe it's 20% faster than a GTX295 and 40% faster than a 4870X2?

:rolleyes:

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