Corsair dropping Elpida Hyper RAM after reproducing failures in labs

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07-07-2009, 04:23 PM
dinos22

Corsair dropping Elpida Hyper RAM after reproducing failures in labs

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We have seen a number of reports across various forums about failures of modules (from Corsair as well as from other memory manufacturers) built with Elpida “Hyper” RAMs. Through lab testing, we have now been able to reproduce similar failures. We are continuing to test to determine the cause of these failures. Note that although a relatively small percentage of “Hyper” ICs appear to be affected, the rate of failure is not acceptable to Corsair or to our customers.

Due to these failures, we will no longer sell Hyper-based modules until the issue can be resolved. We have also have asked our retailers to return any modules they currently have on their shelves. Products impacted include TW3X4G1600C6GTF, TR3X6G1866C7GTF, TR3X6G2000C8GTF, TR3X3G2000C7GTF, and TR3X6G2000C7GTF. We are working on enhancing our manufacturing and testing process to be able to offer these parts again as soon as possible.

We continue to stand behind these modules 100% with our standard warranty, which can be found at http://www.corsair.com/warranty/default.aspx.

http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79691
07-07-2009, 04:41 PM
sirheck

Cool!
I like to see this. When i worked for Seagate(in the clean room), about 35 to 40% of
the drives we sent out, failed or were not up to SG,s specs.

Mostly motor noise. The motors failed O-scope testing.

This was of course a long time ago. Not sure how they are now.
07-07-2009, 04:44 PM
Biker

Glad I went cheapo G.skill Trident...
07-07-2009, 04:45 PM
xlink

so lower OCs...
07-07-2009, 04:49 PM
[XC] gomeler

They'll find out the issue. I'm hoping to pick up some Hyper sticks on the cheap now :D
07-07-2009, 04:50 PM
bingo13

Expect others to follow suit, especially after our conversations with everyone recently. ;)
07-07-2009, 04:55 PM
570091D

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Originally Posted by xlink

so lower OCs...

they are just trying to protect the majority of thier customers, most of which never oc thier ram. i'm happy to hear that corsair cares enough about thier quality and reputation to take far-reaching steps to prevent module failure. :up:
07-07-2009, 04:55 PM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by bingo13

Expect others to follow suit, especially after our conversations everyone recently. ;)

can you publicly provide the testing notes

or some kind of sum up

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Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

They'll find out the issue. I'm hoping to pick up some Hyper sticks on the cheap now :D

dont think it will be corsairs cause they are pulling it all out of retails sales too eeek
07-07-2009, 05:02 PM
Raja@ASUS

I submitted my piece today highlighting the problems Dinos, we let the vendors know earlier today. It should be in the engine in a couple of hours tops. I did not hold back..

EDit: Also sent an email direct to Elpida, 2 days later and no official response - not good.
07-07-2009, 06:25 PM
orangekiwii

yeah they've been deactivated on many sites :S
07-07-2009, 06:34 PM
[XC] gomeler

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

dont think it will be corsairs cause they are pulling it all out of retails sales too eeek

guess I'm making a trip to Fremont to liberate some sticks :up:
07-07-2009, 06:41 PM
Buckeye

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Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

guess I'm making a trip to Fremont to liberate some sticks :up:

hmm... Fremont is an hour away from me ;)
07-07-2009, 07:21 PM
jpm804

Doh :eek:...... Just got the 1866GT kit.

At least they booted up when I got it on the classified and running at its rated specs.

Now I'm going to worry if they are gonna go bad any time soon... at least Corsair is close to me if I need to do an RMA and also probably no hassle to get RMA on these things no question asked.

Question is what will they give you if you RMA it??

--Side note did have to RMA the FINS:rofl: .. the paint was already flaking on them when I pulled them out of the packaging. Corsair said they would send me a new set of Fins :up: Wonder if this happened to anyone else :shrug:
07-07-2009, 07:25 PM
Leeghoofd

Any word yet from the other vendors ?
07-07-2009, 07:34 PM
GAR

Corsair is a good company, im starting to like them alot more than before.
07-07-2009, 08:46 PM
grasskicker509

nice to see that some companies still care...kudos to corsair
07-07-2009, 08:48 PM
Bo_Fox

Remember the Crucial Ballistix Tracer 1GB DDR sticks? At least Corsair is not selling defunctive memory to the public, like Crucial did!
07-07-2009, 08:55 PM
saaya

so the rumors of elpida recalling hyper or offering a recall to vendors were true then... since i doubt kingston and elpida would recall any stock unless elpida would give them the money back for those sticks/chips

good news overall, though i must say, im a bit surprised it took this long for dram vendors to react...
07-07-2009, 09:15 PM
Utnorris

Crud, I am getting my replacement GT's in this week so I guess i can expect to have those replaced soon also. Good thing I have a set of OCZ's as backup RAM.
07-07-2009, 09:26 PM
TheGoat Eater

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Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

They'll find out the issue. I'm hoping to pick up some Hyper sticks on the cheap now :D

$70 ???? LOL :p: I love mine though looking to get 3x2 Hypers soon again
07-07-2009, 11:48 PM
kiwi

But replace with what? Any other chips that can do 2K 7-8-7 <1.65V? Or all these products discontinued? Short and miserable lives elpidas had :D
07-08-2009, 01:12 AM
Russian

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

so the rumors of elpida recalling hyper or offering a recall to vendors were true then... since i doubt kingston and elpida would recall any stock unless elpida would give them the money back for those sticks/chips

good news overall, though i must say, im a bit surprised it took this long for dram vendors to react...

I'll ask my contacts @ Kingston about anything official.
07-08-2009, 03:47 AM
BulldogPO

Right thing to do.
So many of those sticks have died :(

My Kigston contact said same thing about week ago that Kingston has put Elpida on hold.
07-08-2009, 05:24 AM
Star_Hunter

They should have done this weeks ago, we have known about the hypers dieing for a long time.
07-08-2009, 06:03 AM
[XC] gomeler

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Originally Posted by Star_Hunter

They should have done this weeks ago, we have known about the hypers dieing for a long time.

Not any worse than D9GKX/GMH :D
07-08-2009, 06:15 AM
naokaji

Makes sense that they drop Elpida, but what will happen to Customers who already have Elpida sets if they fail after the production stop? will they receive some of the "faulty" elpida stuff that has been recalled, or some replacement product? (insane binned samsung stuff or whatever).
07-08-2009, 04:21 PM
Russian

As you guys know, kingston has also been using these in their high performance memory as well and states that customers who experience problems with the memory that may be related to this situation should contact Kingston's technical support for any support.
07-08-2009, 06:16 PM
Kal-EL

Whats in the Perfect Storm 2133mhz 2x3gb 6gb sticks?
07-08-2009, 06:30 PM
ExodusC

Sounds just like the Crucial Ballistix I had (the single sided modules). Went through two RMAs on those until I got some that didn't die.

Luckily my double sided ones worked all the way through.
07-08-2009, 06:35 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-EL

Whats in the Perfect Storm 2133mhz 2x3gb 6gb sticks?

lol what do you think :p:
07-08-2009, 06:39 PM
Kal-EL

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

lol what do you think :p:

Magic? :yepp:
07-08-2009, 06:43 PM
dinos22

there is nothing on the market that can clock that high as 1.65v

if there is it would be a dead easy changeover to all manufacturers
07-08-2009, 06:47 PM
Kal-EL

These are on the way http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231269 Pray with me people that they last a while :D
07-08-2009, 08:41 PM
PRJ

I have the GT 2000 8-8-8-24 version running great @ 1600 7-7-7-20 without any problems.

What is this "reproduce similar failures" what the typpical problem with these modules...?
07-08-2009, 09:33 PM
KILLER_K

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Originally Posted by PRJ

I have the GT 2000 8-8-8-24 version running great @ 1600 7-7-7-20 without any problems.

What is this "reproduce similar failures" what the typpical problem with these modules...?

Glad to see corsair starting to move on it.

There is nothing that produces it but a "what just happened" spoof. Seriously though, it just random fails with no warning. A stick of mine died on boot,, never over-volted or overclocked.

And i really like my Kingston Hyper X T1's, though the heatsinks was way too tall imo though.
07-09-2009, 12:36 AM
PRJ

I wonder what one will recieve after a posible RMA... Fingers crossed, mine will live forever.... or until there is a even better replacement
07-09-2009, 01:00 AM
Zeus

How about OCZ, will they put the Blades on a hold?
07-09-2009, 01:05 AM
warmage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-EL

These are on the way http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231269 Pray with me people that they last a while :D

i just got them too >.< , hope they will last
07-09-2009, 02:31 AM
zalbard

So what chips are they going to use for 1866+ kits?
07-09-2009, 06:44 AM
deathman20

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Originally Posted by Bo_Fox

Remember the Crucial Ballistix Tracer 1GB DDR sticks? At least Corsair is not selling defunctive memory to the public, like Crucial did!

Sounds like the lovely issue why I won't buy Crucial anymore. To many dead sticks, and don't want to screw around with them.
07-09-2009, 09:10 PM
tajoh111

I think mushkin did the same thing. The most expensive of mushkins lines which are likely elpida hypers are no longer available.

http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/performance/
07-09-2009, 10:41 PM
jpm804

Quote:

Originally Posted by tajoh111

I think mushkin did the same thing. The most expensive of mushkins lines which are likely elpida hypers are no longer available.

http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/performance/

They have it under a different section I think:

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07-11-2009, 06:40 PM
villa1n

I totally missed this thread, Are all hyper's affected, or just DDr3's? I just grabbed some kingston hyper X ddr2 667 4-4-4-12's for my notebook?
07-12-2009, 12:15 AM
Leeghoofd

Nope mate, the problematic rams are Elpida Hyper IC based, so not all HyperX rams are involved as not all are Elpida based IC's on the Dimms
07-12-2009, 08:16 AM
villa1n

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Nope mate, the problematic rams are Elpida Hyper IC based, so not all HyperX rams are involved as not all are Elpida based IC's on the Dimms

Ahh, ok , good to know :) Cheers.