DO Stepping Xeons at the EGG

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05-07-2009, 03:33 AM
Bootsy

DO Stepping Xeons at the EGG

w3520
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117213

w3540
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117212
05-07-2009, 03:45 AM
runmc

Is the w3520 any better clocker than the 920?
05-07-2009, 03:46 AM
Utnorris

I wonder how well the W3540 overclocks with the higher multi.
05-07-2009, 03:47 AM
Utnorris

Quote:

Originally Posted by runmc

Is the w3520 any better clocker than the 920?

I have read reports that the Classified does not like the W3520 on EVGA forums, but that might just be the user.
05-07-2009, 04:39 AM
Bootsy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utnorris

I have read reports that the Classified does not like the W3520 on EVGA forums, but that might just be the user.

I have the non nf200 version and they just released a beta bios for Xeon Compatibility.
05-07-2009, 07:17 AM
runmc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bootsy

I have the non nf200 version and they just released a beta bios for Xeon Compatibility.

Are you gonna grab a w3520? I'll ask Shamino if the Classified bios will handle the Xeon.

I was just getting ready to buy the 920 DO off of ebay but this w3520 gets my attention ;)
05-07-2009, 07:57 AM
tekjunkie

I have both the 920 DO(45B027) and the W3520, both from tankguys. I also have the BR and my RMAed Classified(with NF200) will be on it's way soon.
05-07-2009, 08:39 AM
Warboy

That' w3520 has a QPI of 6.4, 920 has 4.8, Am I missing something here? I wonder if the QPI clocks better then.
05-07-2009, 08:41 AM
Bootsy

Quote:

Originally Posted by runmc

Are you gonna grab a w3520? I'll ask Shamino if the Classified bios will handle the Xeon.

I was just getting ready to buy the 920 DO off of ebay but this w3520 gets my attention ;)

Already did:) and according the EVGA forums the w3520 is now working with both versions of the classified.
05-07-2009, 09:29 AM
scottc19

Will this work with the bloodrage? Is there any benefit to get this over the 920 or vise versa?
05-07-2009, 09:37 AM
DdotRoq

The only benefit is ECC.
05-07-2009, 09:45 AM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warboy

That' w3520 has a QPI of 6.4, 920 has 4.8, Am I missing something here? I wonder if the QPI clocks better then.

That's not what Intel says.

Quote:

Intel® QPI Links Bandwidth 4.8 GT/s

http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupId=39718
05-07-2009, 10:43 AM
runmc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praz

That's not what Intel says.

http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupId=39718

LOL - when I saw 6.4 gt/s - I'm like what's going on here? :shrug: Type error..
05-07-2009, 11:14 AM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by runmc

LOL - when I saw 6.4 gt/s - I'm like what's going on here? :shrug: Type error..

I'd be all over one of these if it was true. :)
05-07-2009, 11:20 AM
Utnorris

I doubt it would matter since you would be overclocking the chip which would negate the QPI being at 6.4 or 4.8.
05-07-2009, 11:38 AM
runmc

Well if some one want to loan me $300 until next Tuesday (Wimpy) kekeke :D, I'll buy one and try it out.
05-07-2009, 11:48 AM
scottc19

Quote:

Originally Posted by DdotRoq

The only benefit is ECC.

Do you have to use ecc ram?
EDIT: Answer: no you don't :)
05-07-2009, 12:33 PM
runmc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praz

That's not what Intel says.

http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupId=39718

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaWaxShop69

I read somewhere in an article intel was releasing all the nehalem cores with the QPI @ 6.4

Look at the link Praz posted. :shrug:
05-07-2009, 12:49 PM
ColonelCain

Quote:

Originally Posted by runmc

I was just getting ready to buy the 920 DO off of ebay but this w3520 gets my attention ;)

From where? :confused:

Also, anyone have any idea if this works in either of the DFI X58 boards? Not just be unlocked, but have everything unlocked as the 920 does?
05-07-2009, 01:03 PM
runmc

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelCain

From where? :confused:

From the same person you were gonna get yours from. I've also been in communication with him.:yepp:
05-07-2009, 01:17 PM
ColonelCain

Quote:

Originally Posted by runmc

From the same person you were gonna get yours from. I've also been in communication with him.:yepp:

Ah. :D

Though, apparently Intel is giving him the run-around as far as when the CPU's are going to be delivered to him.
05-07-2009, 01:30 PM
road-runner

3 left, I got 1 of them... :D
05-07-2009, 03:06 PM
runmc

I wonder if this has the same multi's as the 920?
05-07-2009, 03:08 PM
road-runner

Quote:

Originally Posted by runmc

I wonder if this has the same multi's as the 920?

From what I have read others say and SS it it does... :shrug:
05-07-2009, 04:20 PM
ColonelCain

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaWaxShop69

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/fea...nally_reported

its unlocked now i guess

This is for i7 9xx cpus... not Xeons...
05-07-2009, 05:13 PM
runmc

LOL - "Out of Stock"

Probably aren't any good anyway :hehe:

not!! :bs:
05-07-2009, 05:19 PM
Utnorris

Just an FYI and no, I have not confirmed it, just food for thought.

ORIGINAL: Kensek

They are locked.

Dram you only get to pick between 6:1 or 8:1. The other 3 or 4 ratios are there but they do not work.

Uncore is Locked.

I sold both my W3520s already. Bioses are to immature for them.

And the D0 975 or 950 will kick but.

The W3520 could do 222x21.

And in SuperPi 1M at 222x22 with all 8 cores enabled did 8.66s.

It couldn't go past 222BClk because that ran at a Uncore of 3996. And anything above 4000 Uncore crashed or didnt boot.

But D0s can do 10% more than C0s.

Posted on EVGA Forums.
05-07-2009, 05:24 PM
road-runner

I read that EVGA was working on a bios over there also, I sure hope so as I have one coming to go in the classified. I may just send it back and not even open it... :shakes:
05-07-2009, 05:44 PM
runmc

You can probably cancel the order now if your having second thoughts.:)
05-07-2009, 05:52 PM
road-runner

Quote:

Originally Posted by runmc

You can probably cancel the order now if your having second thoughts.:)

It says it is to late to cancel, I will try it I guess...:up:
05-07-2009, 06:01 PM
ColonelCain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utnorris

Just an FYI and no, I have not confirmed it, just food for thought.

ORIGINAL: Kensek

They are locked.

Dram you only get to pick between 6:1 or 8:1. The other 3 or 4 ratios are there but they do not work.

Uncore is Locked.

I sold both my W3520s already. Bioses are to immature for them.

And the D0 975 or 950 will kick but.

The W3520 could do 222x21.

And in SuperPi 1M at 222x22 with all 8 cores enabled did 8.66s.

It couldn't go past 222BClk because that ran at a Uncore of 3996. And anything above 4000 Uncore crashed or didnt boot.

But D0s can do 10% more than C0s.

Posted on EVGA Forums.

This is what I feared.

I am willing to bet that this is more or less the same situation on any X58 board, minus a few.

Come on pao_revolt! :wierd:
05-07-2009, 08:40 PM
V2-V3

W3570 and W3580 Xeons are the only Unlocked Ratio Xeons

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utnorris

Just an FYI and no, I have not confirmed it, just food for thought.

ORIGINAL: Kensek

They are locked.

Dram you only get to pick between 6:1 or 8:1. The other 3 or 4 ratios are there but they do not work.

Uncore is Locked.

I sold both my W3520s already. Bioses are to immature for them.

And the D0 975 or 950 will kick but.

The W3520 could do 222x21.

And in SuperPi 1M at 222x22 with all 8 cores enabled did 8.66s.

It couldn't go past 222BClk because that ran at a Uncore of 3996. And anything above 4000 Uncore crashed or didnt boot.

But D0s can do 10% more than C0s.

Posted on EVGA Forums.
05-07-2009, 10:06 PM
tekjunkie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utnorris

Just an FYI and no, I have not confirmed it, just food for thought.

ORIGINAL: Kensek

They are locked.

Dram you only get to pick between 6:1 or 8:1. The other 3 or 4 ratios are there but they do not work.

Uncore is Locked.

I sold both my W3520s already. Bioses are to immature for them.

And the D0 975 or 950 will kick but.

The W3520 could do 222x21.

And in SuperPi 1M at 222x22 with all 8 cores enabled did 8.66s.

It couldn't go past 222BClk because that ran at a Uncore of 3996. And anything above 4000 Uncore crashed or didnt boot.

But D0s can do 10% more than C0s.

Posted on EVGA Forums.

BAH!! no wonder I couldn't do 2:10 with the 3520, 2:8 runs like a charm with litte less vcore than my D0.I think it might have to do with RTL not being available in the BIOS on a lot of x58 boards.It's one of the important parameters for high memory speeds.

EDIT:Yep, this is what I found from EVGA forums. This is from Sham himself:

"from the xeons tested, it seems htey are hardlocked to 20x uncore multiplier which means max of 1333 2:10 ratio for memory. so u can use 1333"

ARGH!! it sucks.This means that if you wanna do 2:10 the only available BCLK is the default of 133. I thought my W3250 was a keeper and I thought I could stay on air.It was running a lot cooler than my 920 DO with my TRUE copper on it(probably because of a flatter IHS). Time for some H20 loving I guess(which really scares the crap outta me..have never done H20) or lap my DO IHS(which I have never done either).
05-08-2009, 03:48 AM
Warboy

Compare chart for people that need things cleared up.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/Warboy/Chart.jpg
05-08-2009, 04:18 AM
DdotRoq

The chart doesn't clear anything up... going by the chart above, you can basically state they are all essentially the same with the exception of price , .9 of temp and CPU. I just wasted my time reading a chart that is identical across the board...
05-08-2009, 04:41 AM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by DdotRoq

The chart doesn't clear anything up... going by the chart above, you can basically state they are all essentially the same with the exception of price , .9 of temp and CPU. I just wasted my time reading a chart that is identical across the board...

Then you need glasses.

there is 920, 940,965 vs 3520,3540,3570

There was to clear up pricing, QPI and other things.
05-08-2009, 04:49 AM
Bootsy

Quote:

Originally Posted by tekjunkie

BAH!! no wonder I couldn't do 2:10 with the 3520, 2:8 runs like a charm with litte less vcore than my D0.I think it might have to do with RTL not being available in the BIOS on a lot of x58 boards.It's one of the important parameters for high memory speeds.

EDIT:Yep, this is what I found from EVGA forums. This is from Sham himself:

"from the xeons tested, it seems htey are hardlocked to 20x uncore multiplier which means max of 1333 2:10 ratio for memory. so u can use 1333"

ARGH!! it sucks.This means that if you wanna do 2:10 the only available BCLK is the default of 133. I thought my W3250 was a keeper and I thought I could stay on air.It was running a lot cooler than my 920 DO with my TRUE copper on it(probably because of a flatter IHS). Time for some H20 loving I guess(which really scares the crap outta me..have never done H20) or lap my DO IHS(which I have never done either).

According to this thread at EVGA the w3520 is now unlocked on the 760 version:
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=100644534

I will post back when the Egg ever ships my Proc, they used ship same day but I ordered yesterday and still dont have shipped status.
05-08-2009, 06:01 AM
road-runner

Mine shipped last night... :up::shrug:
05-08-2009, 07:13 AM
Zucker2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warboy

Then you need glasses.

there is 920, 940,965 vs 3520,3540,3570

There was to clear up pricing, QPI and other things.

You didn't know, so just accept that and move on. The QPI Link speed for both the 920 and W3520 is 4.8Gs, even the W3540 (the 950 equivalent) is also 4.8Gs.
05-11-2009, 01:25 AM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zucker2k

You didn't know, so just accept that and move on. The QPI Link speed for both the 920 and W3520 is 4.8Gs, even the W3540 (the 950 equivalent) is also 4.8Gs.

No, How about you re-read the first page because I wasn't the only one to be confused by the fact that newegg made a typo, and some people on the first page even believed it was 6.4G/T
05-12-2009, 11:45 AM
Zucker2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warboy

No, How about you re-read the first page because I wasn't the only one to be confused by the fact that newegg made a typo, and some people on the first page even believed it was 6.4G/T

The chart you posted is not from newegg; and what's the purpose of that chart anyway? It doesn't relate to your argument.
05-12-2009, 01:41 PM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zucker2k

The chart you posted is not from newegg; and what's the purpose of that chart anyway? It doesn't relate to your argument.

Wow. Zucker, I thought better of you. It's because people got confused and the chart is directly from Intel. Clearing up all the info newegg messed up.
05-12-2009, 01:47 PM
Bootsy

Got my Xeon w3520. Memory multi's are unlocked, max bclk in the first five minutes 228. Have to take the wife out to dinner before I can play some more:)

http://img.techpowerup.org/090512/2 14 mem279.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/090512/4725 superpi 1m.jpg
05-12-2009, 02:59 PM
tekjunkie

Bootsy, could you please check whether you are able to do 4GHZ uncore. I could not on my BR, eventhough the ratios are unlocked, I could not get them stable. I would have to try them on my classified.
05-13-2009, 02:25 PM
Bootsy

Done and with 12gb:

http://img.techpowerup.org/090513/Untitled.jpg
05-13-2009, 03:44 PM
tekjunkie

Nice uncore. Good to see xeons doing 4GHZ uncore without any problems. I have mounted my W3250 on the classified and try to get it stable @ 200x21 with memory 2:10. Let's see how it goes. I also have a DFI incomming
05-22-2009, 10:12 AM
lior307

i see these 3540 are shining here !!

What to buy ?? i7 950 (two weeks away from me) OR the Xeon W3540 ???
05-22-2009, 10:35 AM
systemviper

Quote:

Originally Posted by lior307

i see these 3540 are shining here !!

What to buy ?? i7 950 (two weeks away from me) OR the Xeon W3540 ???

yea, i couldn't wait, the 3540's being delivered today, waiting on brown now~
06-11-2009, 09:47 AM
ex2cib

W3520 appears to be back in stock at the moment
06-11-2009, 02:35 PM
The Nemesis

Both 3520 & 3540 are back instock!
06-11-2009, 02:42 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warboy

That' w3520 has a QPI of 6.4, 920 has 4.8, Am I missing something here? I wonder if the QPI clocks better then.

Nope, both are 4.8