Koolance VID-NX295 or EK FC295?

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03-11-2009, 11:03 AM
eponymous

Koolance VID-NX295 or EK FC295?

Simple poll.

Comments welcome. :)
03-11-2009, 11:08 AM
systemviper

Wasn't it just you that asked this >?

For me I like the Koolance all the way!
03-11-2009, 01:53 PM
eponymous

Quote:

Originally Posted by systemviper

Wasn't it just you that asked this >?

For me I like the Koolance all the way!

:) I did start a thread about the best GTX 295 and waterblock combo, but I couldn't turn it in to a thread so I started one here instead.
03-17-2009, 05:13 AM
bundymania

i will release a review soon. comparison between EK, Koolance and this beauty :)

http://www.abload.de/img/img_7074osgw.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_7078vrjj.jpg

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http://www.abload.de/img/img_7108czjs.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_7121oqj1.jpg

...stay tuned !
03-18-2009, 07:09 AM
bundymania

Dynamic Duo :D

http://www.abload.de/img/img_7218ldny.jpg
03-18-2009, 07:54 AM
tuanster1119

Is the heatkiller block available in the US anywhere?
03-18-2009, 08:29 AM
bundymania

performance-pcs.com listed a bunch of watercool products in the last days, maybe this block is available there too ?!

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...order=6&page=4

http://www.abload.de/img/img_71288d3r.jpg

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03-18-2009, 09:45 AM
NaeKuh

u guys forgot out of all the blocks shown,

Koolance is the only one with real working standoff's

so its a no brainer in which block to pick.

Bundy you need standoff's on your blocks, or a lot of people on this forum WONT buy them.

We went though nightmares with the EK blocks not having standoff's, so a lot of people arent gonna repeat that mistake. Eddie even made revisions with standoff's but unfortunately, there not perfect and still giving a lot of people problems.
03-18-2009, 11:30 AM
eponymous

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaeKuh

u guys forgot out of all the blocks shown,

Koolance is the only one with real working standoff's

so its a no brainer in which block to pick.

Bundy you need standoff's on your blocks, or a lot of people on this forum WONT buy them.

We went though nightmares with the EK blocks not having standoff's, so a lot of people arent gonna repeat that mistake. Eddie even made revisions with standoff's but unfortunately, there not perfect and still giving a lot of people problems.

Hi, can you explain what you mean by this?

Thanks. :)
03-18-2009, 12:23 PM
Defratos

^ +1 basically what are standoffs?
03-18-2009, 12:40 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defratos

^ +1 basically what are standoffs?

I made a hugh deal about this and forced Eddie to make them on the revisions basically.

However, he hasnt gotten them done correctly yet, a lot of members are still reporting they have no clue on how to get the standoff's done correctly on the EK blocks.

The Heatkiller block has no standoff's so it automatically gets thrown out the door on my recomendations:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...93#post3365293

im sorry it looks nice but whats a point in a block that can damage your card by warping it?

Standoff's in silver:
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...d-nx295_p1.jpg

Standoff's machined directly onto the block:
http://www.dangerden.com/store/image...?1237409098556

See KL and DD is the only 2 blocks right now with standoff's. So those are my only 2 recomendations when it comes to fullcover blocks.
03-18-2009, 12:56 PM
Jokester_wild

I think the majority of the problems comes from peoples incompetence in installing. I have been using ek full cover blocks since they started, and have yet to have a problem. Great temps, great contact.
03-18-2009, 12:59 PM
zlojack

Don't the EKs come with plastic standoffs?
03-18-2009, 01:06 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jokester_wild

I think the majority of the problems comes from peoples incompetence in installing.

at first i thought that too.

til i started warping my cards, and then Cyberdruid shorted his cards, and then theres countless threads of people who shorted or warp there cards.

So unless your calling me and cyberdruid and a few other vets incompetient in fc installing, no... FC cards without standoffs are just flawed in general.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zlojack

Don't the EKs come with plastic standoffs?

They do, but they give people like shazza and seeker issues in getting them setup correct, and i call that a failed standoff as well.
03-18-2009, 01:19 PM
eponymous

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaeKuh

at first i thought that too.

til i started warping my cards, and then Cyberdruid shorted his cards, and then theres countless threads of people who shorted or warp there cards.

So unless your calling me and cyberdruid and a few other vets incompetient in fc installing, no... FC cards without standoffs are just flawed in general.

They do, but they give people like shazza and seeker issues in getting them setup correct, and i call that a failed standoff as well.

Great. Thanks for this.

Koolance block it is then :)

Cheers.
03-18-2009, 01:23 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by eponymous

Great. Thanks for this.

Koolance block it is then :)

Cheers.

careful note when installing a FC card on a dualcard gpu like that.

the internal mini sli cable is not backwards compatiable. Meaning theres only 1 way it can go in, but fits 2 ways.

A lot of people goof on this part, and it makes the card not boot up. So make sure you pay extra attention to that internal SLI cable.

When you pull the stock sink you'll know what im talking about.
03-18-2009, 01:31 PM
systemviper

good call on the standoffs, it was like it was a big issue then everyone forgot, i was watching this thread to see
if the person reviewing them and obviously a fan of the HK's was going to mention that issue.

myself I am a big koolance fan
03-18-2009, 01:36 PM
zlojack

A touch of glue on each plastic standoff to hold it in place over the hole should be enough on the EK, though I agree Eddy should be milling them right into the blocks. Especially for what he charges!
03-18-2009, 01:38 PM
eponymous

Thanks.

I'll try and keep the SLI cable intact if I can. FFCs like are a nightmare to work with.
03-18-2009, 01:42 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by eponymous

Thanks.

I'll try and keep the SLI cable intact if I can. FFCs like are a nightmare to work with.

not really...

MCW60 + all those friggin ram sinks = more annoying if you ask me :rofl:
03-18-2009, 01:57 PM
eponymous

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaeKuh

not really...

MCW60 + all those friggin ram sinks = more annoying if you ask me :rofl:

The nightmareish experience I had with FFCs was when I was making a projector from an old TFT monitor. Cheap an nasty cable that had a tendancy to tear. :)
03-18-2009, 02:38 PM
Jokester_wild

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaeKuh

at first i thought that too.

til i started warping my cards, and then Cyberdruid shorted his cards, and then theres countless threads of people who shorted or warp there cards.

So unless your calling me and cyberdruid and a few other vets incompetient in fc installing, no... FC cards without standoffs are just flawed in general.

They do, but they give people like shazza and seeker issues in getting them setup correct, and i call that a failed standoff as well.

Well like I said before, I have had there blocks many times and never ran into issues. And none of those cards had stand offs. BUT standoffs do help so why not add them, it just makes sense. :yepp:
03-18-2009, 02:51 PM
systemviper

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaeKuh

not really...

MCW60 + all those friggin ram sinks = more annoying if you ask me :rofl:

wow i forgot all about those days, using mcw60's and maze 4's and gluing all those heatsinks, man those were the days, i kinda forgot till you mentioned , guess i'm spoiled now that i am using full card blocks.

i remember last year when i got a ek 9800gx2 block, i screwed it down and i wasn't paying attention and when i went to check it before i used i i noticed the card was out of wak, luckly i didn't mess it up, but that is when i first noticed the standoff situation, i used some spare rubber washers that i had around.
03-18-2009, 07:04 PM
veedubfreak

Having looked at both the ek and koolance blocks, the koolance was cheaper and just seemed to be the better design. All 3 of my 285 koolance blocks went on with ZERO issues and i'm getting great temps.
03-18-2009, 07:49 PM
rambler358

I also went with the Koolance blocks for my 295s.
03-18-2009, 08:46 PM
santiagodraco

I've used Koolance fc blocks for my last three card generations and were great and keep getting better.
03-18-2009, 11:01 PM
Defratos

Ah ok so standoffs are the bits that cover the other ram bits on the card?
03-19-2009, 12:08 AM
Eddy_EK

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaeKuh

u guys forgot out of all the blocks shown,

Koolance is the only one with real working standoff's

so its a no brainer in which block to pick.

Bundy you need standoff's on your blocks, or a lot of people on this forum WONT buy them.

We went though nightmares with the EK blocks not having standoff's, so a lot of people arent gonna repeat that mistake. Eddie even made revisions with standoff's but unfortunately, there not perfect and still giving a lot of people problems.

I believe some had problems, because of tightening the screws too much, until the bent PCB touched the block.
I believe we have to take this into our account so even the most unexperienced users can mount it easily.
So EK has started implementing standoffs into the products. Starting with 4870 GS and continuing with Acetal standoffs at 295/285/260(55nm) that can be used or not, depending to the user wishes. But I can say the experienced user can mount the block without standoff with better result.

This is the picture how the standoffs work:
http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/images...stand-offs.jpg
05-12-2009, 07:14 AM
Quels

older post I know put the question fits.

I recently installed my BFG-GTX295 on the Koolance VID-NX295. I'm using the thinner thermal pads as of now but I may have to change to the thicker pads because I'm getting a warp/bowing on both cards.

Has anyone had that problem with the BFG 295? I', thinking if I change out the thermal pads to the thicker ones I may not get the block/GPU contact as good as using the thinner pads?

Any recommendations, say maybe unscrewing the stand offs a bit?

Thanks, Quels