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What do you think of my "water cooling" case design?
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i like it. the only thing i would do differently is turn the HDD cage to the right or left. so all the HDD's can take the brunt of the flow from the fan on the front.
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It shouldn't matter which direction the hard drives face as long as the air is moving across them. The design looks good, looks like a Lian Li drive case. One thing I would change is the amount of slots in the back of the case, would increase it to 10 so the case could use a motherboard with multipule dual slot video cards. But design is one thing, build it then it would be more impressive.
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extra cooling is extra cooling, with the fan blowing directly onto the drives instead of a wall on the side would create extra cooling. i would turn the cage anyway.
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perpendicular mounting is good for clean wires, stick with it :)
my only change in design would be to go with an EATX tray factor ;) but its you case so build it for your needs :up:
I've never gotten a straight answer on this: Do you think you could post a quick and very brief link on how to render the solidworks model and what program you've used? I have some new designs for my next prject that desperately need some quality renders so I can put them on display :D
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I like it.
In fact I saw the pic in your avatar in another post and thought to myself 'thats a pretty sweet case.'
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absolutly love it, when do they go on sale? XD
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How much? :p:
Any mock ups of side panels?
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price? shipping? side pannels? we need to know sir!, so long as u can fit 2 graphics cards in there then uve made the perfect case my friend!
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you should make the rad at the top 4x120 instead of 3x120 :p:
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It's a beautiful rendering but to a certain extent I think you've taken the easy way out.
Namely, it's huge.
By definition, a watercooled, custom case would be considered "high end", so why not design for high end components...specifically-
-drop the provision for HDDs and slot some SSDs into the unused space around a rad.
-why multiple optical drives?
-why multiple large radiators?
So basically, shrink that bad boy down to the bone- big is industrial, small is elegant and forward thinking.
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Originally Posted by
Stoner133
It shouldn't matter which direction the hard drives face as long as the air is moving across them. The design looks good, looks like a Lian Li drive case. One thing I would change is the amount of slots in the back of the case, would increase it to 10 so the case could use a motherboard with multipule dual slot video cards. But design is one thing, build it then it would be more impressive.
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Originally Posted by
NameTaken45
extra cooling is extra cooling, with the fan blowing directly onto the drives instead of a wall on the side would create extra cooling. i would turn the cage anyway.
I'm glad you like it. The hard drive cage would be detachable anyway, so you could mount it which ever way you prefer. There would probably be plenty of air flow with either orientation.
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Originally Posted by
SNiiPE_DoGG
perpendicular mounting is good for clean wires, stick with it :)
my only change in design would be to go with an EATX tray factor ;) but its you case so build it for your needs :up:
I've never gotten a straight answer on this: Do you think you could post a quick and very brief link on how to render the solidworks model and what program you've used? I have some new designs for my next prject that desperately need some quality renders so I can put them on display :D
I use Google SketchUp and Kerkythea for my designs and rendering. I would ask again in the waterblock render gallery in the liquid cooling section.
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Chris_redfield
I like it.
In fact I saw the pic in your avatar in another post and thought to myself 'thats a pretty sweet case.'
Thanks Chris!
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tool_462
How much? :p:
Any mock ups of side panels?
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Originally Posted by
MaByBoI
price? shipping? side pannels? we need to know sir!, so long as u can fit 2 graphics cards in there then uve made the perfect case my friend!
I'm happy that you guys would like to buy it, but I've know idea how much it would cost. Probably similar to a Lian Li. I'm working on the side panels, will post some more renders when I'm happy with them.
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lkiller123
you should make the rad at the top 4x120 instead of 3x120 :p:
It's probably the angle that the case is positioned, but the top mounts are for a 120.4 rad. The case is also wide enough to take 38mm fans - 38mm shrouds - 60mm rad - 38mm shrouds - 38mm fans in a push-pull configuration.
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Originally Posted by
clokker
It's a beautiful rendering but to a certain extent I think you've taken the easy way out.
Namely, it's huge.
By definition, a watercooled, custom case would be considered "high end", so why not design for high end components...specifically-
-drop the provision for HDDs and slot some SSDs into the unused space around a rad.
-why multiple optical drives?
-why multiple large radiators?
So basically, shrink that bad boy down to the bone- big is industrial, small is elegant and forward thinking.
I'm thinking Xtreme cooling with two loops, one for CPU and one for GPU but in a case that isn't a cube. ;)
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It's about time there was a case specifically for LCing. Looks do-able. :up:
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if u can keep the price down on that sucker, then it would be amazing, people would be buying it left right and center, but a high price would drive away some of the buyers. i say 200-250$ and ill buy 4 :D XD
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very neat .. it would be better if there's dual intake fans :D
and the power switch is either on top or bottom ... in the mid seems inappropriate
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Serpentarius
very neat .. it would be better if there's dual intake fans :D
and the power switch is either on top or bottom ... in the mid seems inappropriate
Don't know about dual intake fans, not much space and not sure it would be necessary with a water cooled system? I think you may be right about the switches, etc. though. I'm still in two minds about this. I did have them at the top in my original design. Maybe I'll see what they look like at the bottom...
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I love the radiator tabs. I think this is what is sorely missing from the watercooling market. Couldn't of pictured it better myself.
It should be patented and sold.
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Pretty creative design. Definitely lots of thought about the layout from someone who does WC. I don't see a problem with a bigger case for WC since WC parts multiply like rabbits as the components being cooled increase in performance.
How much air intake do you have? It seems to have a ton of exhaust but little intake. My custom design(s) normally have 1 or 2 more exhaust fans than intake (currently planned rig is going to have 4 intake and 5 exhaust + PSU fan). Just a thought.
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This looks great but:
only 3 3-1/4" drives...why not increase the drive cage to 4, and put another one right next to it for 8 possible drives.
would the side panels be vented on both sides?
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Overall not too shabby. Looks pretty clean.
One suggestion, why not try the power/reset buttons, on the side. Placed like where most place the USB/Firewire/Audio jacks? Keep the front clean.
I'd also agree with whats posted above, keep the 5.25" drive bays down to a minimum, unless of course you'll have a built in res, which could be pretty slick too. Nice plexi/glass(like) res built in.
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IMO the drive bays are at a minimum as it is, the way I see it is Crystalfontz, dvd-drive and for some users a second dvd drive is needed
On a side note I find not having an internal DVD in PermaFrost is working out great, I got a nice drive that is black and it fits on top of the case facing to the left right behind the end top hood of the p-80. works perfect and looks like its supposed to be there :up:
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Originally Posted by
Eddie3dfx
I love the radiator tabs. I think this is what is sorely missing from the watercooling market. Couldn't of pictured it better myself.
It should be patented and sold.
Thanks Eddie. There are some great cases on the market that can be used for water cooling, but all need to be moded in one way or another. It would be great if there was a case, such as this, or a selection of cases that were specificaly designed for the water cooling market...
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Linux_Box
Pretty creative design. Definitely lots of thought about the layout from someone who does WC. I don't see a problem with a bigger case for WC since WC parts multiply like rabbits as the components being cooled increase in performance.
How much air intake do you have? It seems to have a ton of exhaust but little intake. My custom design(s) normally have 1 or 2 more exhaust fans than intake (currently planned rig is going to have 4 intake and 5 exhaust + PSU fan). Just a thought.
Thanks Linux. As I said before, this is a case for water cooled components. I believe that the single intake fan to cool the HD's and a single exhaust + the PSU to vent any hot air from the case would be sufficient.
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Originally Posted by
Xenogias
This looks great but:
only 3 3-1/4" drives...why not increase the drive cage to 4, and put another one right next to it for 8 possible drives.
would the side panels be vented on both sides?
Thanks Xenogias. These days drives are getting Xtremely large, so there is little need for large numbers of drive bays.
You must remember that this case is designed for water cooling. The area next to the drive bays is reserved for the Pumps and reservoirs.
Yes the panels will be vented on both sides, top and bottom for cooling a 120.4 rad and a 120.3 rad.
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IFMU
Overall not too shabby. Looks pretty clean.
One suggestion, why not try the power/reset buttons, on the side. Placed like where most place the USB/Firewire/Audio jacks? Keep the front clean.
I'd also agree with whats posted above, keep the 5.25" drive bays down to a minimum, unless of course you'll have a built in res, which could be pretty slick too. Nice plexi/glass(like) res built in.
Thanks IFMU. I like your suggestion! I think this is something I will try.
As you can get multi-drives, there's little need for large numbers of drive bays. But as you say, a drive bay res might be nice, or a fan contoller perhaps?
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MaByBoI
if u can keep the price down on that sucker, then it would be amazing, people would be buying it left right and center, but a high price would drive away some of the buyers. i say 200-250$ and ill buy 4 :D XD
I think price would depend heavily on materials. Aluminium is going to be much more expensive than steel. Would you prefer a high priced aluminium case or a lower priced steel one?
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Mick64
I think price would depend heavily on materials. Aluminium is going to be much more expensive than steal. Would you prefer a high priced aluminium case or a lower priced steal one?
steel...cause with all the wc gear inside it, its gonna be heavy no matter what, so might as well save some cash and put that towards some wc gear
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my thoughts exactly. it would cost alot less. and plus your not moving your case around every 5 minutes anyway. and if you are, i suggest you stop doing that. :D
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Plus with black powder coating it will look the sex :), mick i think i will have to come vist
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This thing looks great. It seems to be the perfect watercooling case. I also think it should be made from steel to keep the cost down.
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aluminum because it is not cheap and your gonna kick yourself in the pants for not using aluminum when you try to pick it up off the workbench. Also ALU is cheaper and easier to waterjet.
you could make this case out of plastic and it wouldn't be cheap to make, its gonna be expensive because its custom so you might as well do it right the first time.
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@Mick64+:up:This case design looks awesome! :DIs the front intake fan 120mm or 92mm? I kinda hate 80mm intake/exhaust fans. I personally think you should go aluminum, personally I would never buy steel again. Have you checked out WiNDY/House of Sloldam cases? Some people are willing to spend $500 or so including shipping on those cases and some of those MM and Silverstone cases aren't cheap either.
I think you should at least look into production costs, even though you are Uk based I would still be interested (I get huge int'l shipping discounts so i don't take quite the hit on shipping). I'm have an extremely difficult time deciding on a case myself right now grrr. Great work!:up:
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Mick64
I think price would depend heavily on materials. Aluminium is going to be much more expensive than steel. Would you prefer a high priced aluminium case or a lower priced steel one?
Dunno, how about steel frame for stability and rest alu to keep weight down?
Anyway, where do I line up for preorder?:p:
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mountain_king
@Mick64+:up:This case design looks awesome! :DIs the front intake fan 120mm or 92mm? I kinda hate 80mm intake/exhaust fans. I personally think you should go aluminum, personally I would never buy steel again. Have you checked out WiNDY/House of Sloldam cases? Some people are willing to spend $500 or so including shipping on those cases and some of those MM and Silverstone cases aren't cheap either.
I think you should at least look into production costs, even though you are Uk based I would still be interested (I get huge int'l shipping discounts so i don't take quite the hit on shipping). I'm have an extremely difficult time deciding on a case myself right now grrr. Great work!:up:
Thanks mountain. The intake and exhaust fans are 120mm. Anything smaller is too noisy IMO. As the feedback I'm getting is very good, and there are several people that would buy it if it were available, I will see if I can get made. I haven't got the facilities myself, so I will have to see if one of the case manufacturers would be interested. Alternatively, I will have to raise my own funds and get a sheet metal fabricator to make some up for me to sell. Of cause, this option depends on how much I can get them made for and how much I can sell them for. :D
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I'd be willing to buy one, depending on the price.
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Mick64
Thanks mountain. The intake and exhaust fans are 120mm. Anything smaller is too noisy IMO. As the feedback I'm getting is very good, and there are several people that would buy it if it were available, I will see if I can get made. I haven't got the facilities myself, so I will have to see if one of the case manufacturers would be interested. Alternatively, I will have to raise my own funds and get a sheet metal fabricator to make some up for me to sell. Of cause, this option depends on how much I can get them made for and how much I can sell them for. :D
Thanks for the answer. :) If you can keep it at or around $300 - $350, +shipping etc. I'd be game. Before you submit your design you may want to patent/protect your design before letting a case company take a gander. it kinda reminds me of a MM tower, but I like this design better so far.:D
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I'll buy one if you can get it in the $80-100 range. It looks pretty sweet.
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turbotrey
I'll buy one if you can get it in the $80-100 range. It looks pretty sweet.
I'm sure it will be more than that.
This case looks great, I really hope you are able to get it built. I can definitely see people buying this case for water cooling over a lot of the current favorites. Hell, maybe even give a case manufacturer a call and ask em to buy the design from you!:shrug:
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damnit, this is exactly what i need.... i can't find a case, and when i saw the pic in your avatar, i thought i had finally found the case i was looking for.... its pretty sweet looking.
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Hey. I clicked the link to read this thread. After seeing the first few posts roll in, I downloaded Google SketchUp and knocked This up in an hour or so. Thanks for the inspiration to spend some time encouraging my artistic side lol.
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Here's another look at my design. Changed the position of the switches and ports, and added the side panels. Let me know what you think....
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...e-mkII-05s.jpg
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top notch, add mounts for monsta :) and the other rad rails, instead of holes for fans do the whole thing as a line so you can mount any size rad from any manufacture :)
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It doesn't really matter if its Aluminum or Steel, its a design. It's not real and he's not going to be able to build it. It would take a completely different set of skills to fabricate the case the whats needed to design it. Getting someone to do the fab work for one of the design would be cost prohibitive because it would require all the work to be done by hand. At the prevailing wage for such work your looking at around $1000 for the case based on getting the job done in ten hours and I really don't think it could be done in 10. To mass produce it would require millions and then you also run into copyright infringment problems. Silverstone claiming it looks to much like one of their cases, Lian Li claiming the hard drive cage is theirs.
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Stoner133
It doesn't really matter if its Aluminum or Steel, its a design. It's not real and he's not going to be able to build it. It would take a completely different set of skills to fabricate the case the whats needed to design it. Getting someone to do the fab work for one of the design would be cost prohibitive because it would require all the work to be done by hand. At the prevailing wage for such work your looking at around $1000 for the case based on getting the job done in ten hours and I really don't think it could be done in 10. To mass produce it would require millions and then you also run into copyright infringment problems. Silverstone claiming it looks to much like one of their cases, Lian Li claiming the hard drive cage is theirs.
Ah, maybe so. But I still think he should at least look into it. If I listened to doubters in my life I would not be in as good a position as I am today. You never know, he could make good money by just selling off the design! I still think its good work all the same.
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Please extend the middle section.
reasons:
- I don't want my bottom video card that close to my power supply.... it would essentially be touching it, and forbids the use of bottom exit of full-coverage blocks on that slot, which forbids tri-fire.
- I would like to see 2 fans in front, 2 fans in back, its the norm nowadays and would be the icing on the cake for this case
- I generally just like some room around the mobo. As it is, it would be pretty tight around the mobo.
I'll buy one! I'd pay around $200 to $250 for such a case.
I also agree that the rad mounting should be universal so any rads can be used.
Also I can't tell how much room is behind the mobo tray, but if you make it about an inch, I could kiss you. It seems like every case out there is just a little shy of behind-the-mobo space for wiring.
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Originally Posted by
bentleya
top notch, add mounts for monsta :) and the other rad rails, instead of holes for fans do the whole thing as a line so you can mount any size rad from any manufacture :)
Most 120mm rads have standard spacing; I think it's only the Thermochill rad that is different? But it wouldn't be a problem to slot the holes to accommodate any 120mm type rad. Of cause, there is the issue of 140mm rads coming on to the market, which would mean increasing the size of the case by another 40mm.
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Originally Posted by
Stoner133
It doesn't really matter if its Aluminum or Steel, its a design. It's not real and he's not going to be able to build it. It would take a completely different set of skills to fabricate the case the whats needed to design it. Getting someone to do the fab work for one of the design would be cost prohibitive because it would require all the work to be done by hand. At the prevailing wage for such work your looking at around $1000 for the case based on getting the job done in ten hours and I really don't think it could be done in 10. To mass produce it would require millions and then you also run into copyright infringment problems. Silverstone claiming it looks to much like one of their cases, Lian Li claiming the hard drive cage is theirs.
You are correct, it would take different skills to fabricate this case, but that doesn't mean to say that I don't have these skills. What is the problem is that I don't have the facilities. However, if I can show a company that this would be a popular design, I may be able to convince them to add this case to their line up, or I may be able to convince a fabrication company to produce a small number of cases, which bring the price down. I don't think there would be an issue with copyright infringement, as it doesn't look like any other case on the market, and the hard drive cage, well I must admit, I did download this from the SketchUp website, but I could quite easily design my own!
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mountain_king
Ah, maybe so. But I still think he should at least look into it. If I listened to doubters in my life I would not be in as good a position as I am today. You never know, he could make good money by just selling off the design! I still think its good work all the same.
Thanks for your thoughts mountain, and I totaly agree....
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vinister
Please extend the middle section.
reasons:
- I don't want my bottom video card that close to my power supply.... it would essentially be touching it, and forbids the use of bottom exit of full-coverage blocks on that slot, which forbids tri-fire.
- I would like to see 2 fans in front, 2 fans in back, its the norm nowadays and would be the icing on the cake for this case
- I generally just like some room around the mobo. As it is, it would be pretty tight around the mobo.
I'll buy one! I'd pay around $200 to $250 for such a case.
I also agree that the rad mounting should be universal so any rads can be used.
Also I can't tell how much room is behind the mobo tray, but if you make it about an inch, I could kiss you. It seems like every case out there is just a little shy of behind-the-mobo space for wiring.
Thanks for you input vinister. I don't think there would be much of problem with a third vga card as there would still be space between the card and the bottom panel, also there would be a gap between the PSU and the bottom panel, so there would be plenty of air flow and extending the middle section would mean increasing the size of an already large case. I don't agree about the 2 fans front and rear, one this would take up more space and two with a water cooled system, most of the heat is dissipated by the rads so there is less heat build up within the case. Rads I've already mentioned, price who knows, and space behind the mobo for wiring should be adequate.
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The design is OK. I would position the hard drive cage longitudinally for excellent cooling.
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Tile
The design is OK. I would position the hard drive cage longitudinally for excellent cooling.
I just think it's a matter of taste. IMO it doesn't matter which way the cage is mounted as the slots in the side of the cage will allow plenty of air flow. Personally I would prefer the cage mounted as show so that the cables can be routed at the back of the case....
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the case looks sweet! and i like the hard drives mounted the way they are, hides wires better. Any way keep it up and i would buy one to if you could keep it under $500
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The overall design is quite good, i like it, but im no expert. If it were to go into production, you might even consider doing a non-wc version, for mainstream users.
Also, from a superficial point of view. You might consider putting some glam on the front panel? Theres heaps of crappy LianLi cases out there with really plain fronts, be a bit different, put a bit of chunkiness here or there. Maybe even put a second panel full of USB/Firewire ports, or a built-in LCD or something. as it stands, its just a normal case with lots of room for wc, not that theres anything wrong with that.
gj though, better than anything i could do XD : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=218122
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Power5
What are the dimensions?
Height - 600mm + 10mm for feet
Depth - 650mm
Width - 220mm
Remember, this is for Xtreme water cooling. Anything smaller, and things would start to get a little cramped...;)
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Mick, have you ever though of isolating the radiator areas so no heat is brought into the system?
Basically just fillports for the tubing and a small hole for the wiring.
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Eddie3dfx
Mick, have you ever though of isolating the radiator areas so no heat is brought into the system?
Basically just fillports for the tubing and a small hole for the wiring.
I completely understand what your saying, but it might be difficult to cater for everyones needs. Perhaps I could include a detachable plate that covers a large hole in the dividing panels. This could then be modified to suit your own requirements?
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Originally Posted by
Mick64
I think price would depend heavily on materials. Aluminium is going to be much more expensive than steel. Would you prefer a high priced aluminium case or a lower priced steel one?
higher priced aluminum for sure.
Looks great btw, I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
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You have space, why not use a 200mm front fan and 140mm rear fan? Lower speed, less noise, more CFM. The front fan looks very dinky to me in the renderings.
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Look great nice work. I like the design really nice and clean. A 200mm at the front and a 140mm at the back would be great. What about a side fan also?
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Power5
You have space, why not use a 200mm front fan and 140mm rear fan? Lower speed, less noise, more CFM. The front fan looks very dinky to me in the renderings.
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Look great nice work. I like the design really nice and clean. A 200mm at the front and a 140mm at the back would be great. What about a side fan also?
Cheers guys! I like the idea of larger fans. This would defiantly be a plus! Not so sure about a side fan, one it would spoil the view through the window, and two, I really don't think it would be necessary. I think I will do a render with a bigger fan in the front, but not just yet. I'm in the middle of decorating my son's bedroom, so I haven't much time at the moment...:up:
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I am not sure if this is something you plan to just build for yourself, or to have produced (as you have hinted at) but the majority of computers nowadays are moving toward having at least some sort of eSATA support. Replacing the Firewire port on the front with eSATA would be a very good move. I can not think of a single person I have met that has used Firewire400 in the past 2 years. If they have a Mac, they use the faster Firewire800 (1394b) now, which isn't compatible with the old 1394a connector, and isn't even present on current PC motherboards as far as I have seen.
Also, there is plenty of room above the hard drive cage, is there any way to put a bit more space between each drive to allow a bit more air through ?
One more thing... cable management. Be sure, when you lay out the standoffs on the motherboard tray to conform with ATX standards, that you cut a few large holes for cables to be run behind the motherboard tray, so the users won't have to do it themselves (and trust me, they will, if you don't ;)
Otherwise, I think the case is a winner. I also vote for Aluminum, due to the weight, and ease of manufacture.
Edit: On the topic of fan sizes... perhaps designing a replacement face, or mounting plate with a different size fan mount would be better. This would allow buyers to upgrade to larger fans by buying the 140mm plate, or 200mm plate giving them the choice of which fans they wish to use.
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Very nice with the big front fan. Kudos on the esata aswell, good idea. Enough rendering, where do I send money?
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I like the cpu cutout. Would the tray fit e-atx boards?
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Great work! :up: This would make picking a case to buy alot easier for me. Something like this has been needed for a while now IMO.
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mountain_king
I like the cpu cutout. Would the tray fit e-atx boards?
In a case this size, it would be possible to install an e-atx motherboard, however, you would be reducing the amount of room available for any water cooling equipment. (Pumps, reservoirs, etc)
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I like the new location on the Power/Reset/HDD LED. It looks a lot more efficient ! (also, eSATA ! :up:)
I can't tell, though, if the HDDs were given more cooling room, but the Motherboard tray still needs more cutouts for cabling. I can understand if you are just waiting till you lay out the standoff locations before you place the holes though.
Good job man ! Tell us who you sell the design to (also, make sure you patent it soon, before a builder sees it as a good idea and takes it) ! :D
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3Z3VH
I like the new location on the Power/Reset/HDD LED. It looks a lot more efficient ! (also, eSATA ! :up:)
I can't tell, though, if the HDDs were given more cooling room, but the Motherboard tray still needs more cutouts for cabling. I can understand if you are just waiting till you lay out the standoff locations before you place the holes though.
Good job man ! Tell us who you sell the design to (also, make sure you patent it soon, before a builder sees it as a good idea and takes it) ! :D
Cheers 3Z, Hard drive cooling, IMO, is sufficient, especially now there is a 200mm fan blowing over them. The Motherboard tray doesn't require cut-outs, because I have included cable routes in the top and bottom dividing panels. I didn't think showing stand-offs was necessary, but I can add them if you like? ;)
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I did notice the cable routes in the top and bottom, but if the case can fit an Extended ATX board, that means there is a lot of room between the bottom of a standard ATX board, and the bottom divider. I am even in the planning process for cutting holes in my TJ-09's Motherboard tray as we speak so I can hide my cables a little more effectively.
Cases that already have these cutouts have them in spots that allow the cables to be hidden at each edge of the board, and if you are using a larger board, the holes are covered up anyway, so they aren't unsightly.
As I said, it isn't a huge deal, since the buyers of the case will most likely be the type that can cut them themselves, it is just something that came to mind as a feature people (like me) look for in a well-designed case.
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Looks like a tight fit for long psus
The HDD cage should be rotated 180 degrees, so you can make a tidier cable managment (ports facing backwards).
The rest is just perfect :)
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jimmyxxx
Looks like a tight fit for long psus
The HDD cage should be rotated 180 degrees, so you can make a tidier cable managment (ports facing backwards).
The rest is just perfect :)
Thanks jimmy. Yes your right, it probably would be a tight fit for a long PSU, but seeing as there are plenty of +1000w small PSU's on the market, I can't see that being much of a problem. I could extend the length of the case, but at 650mm already, you're talking one huge case! As for the HDD cage, I wasn't aware that the orientation of the cage made a difference in relation to the HDD's. I would also prefer the ports facing the back (or right, depending on how you look at it). However, I'm going to change the design of the HDD cage anyway, because I downloaded this one off the ScetchUp website and I believe it's a copy of a Lian Li cage. So I wouldn't want to steal their design...:rolleyes:
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yeah there is a lot of small 1000w psus but the good ones (pc power and cooling, corsair and enermax) are usually long.
Now talking about the cooling, have you plans for using peltiers? With that ammount of radiators the peltiers can really make a bif difference.
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pro: It is a very nice case with a very sweet design i really love it's look and as a lot to offer.
Cons: the compartment space where the mobo reside is too small and restraint.
seems like there could be more slot in the back for extra device like PCI card, fan controller sata to e-sata port things like that.
I would personally have stick the rad on the outside left panel in a compartment making the tower just a little larger in its thickness for the radiator, blowing the air out of the case through the rad. Leaving more space in the inside and I would of make a compartment at the top like a wind tunnel for the HHD and optical or else that would heat the inside. there would also be a big fan on the right side panel blowing in and cooling the mobo while boosting airflow sucking out the air through for the radiators. the right side panel would lso be a tray with perforated hole over the entire surface for Xtrem cooling air + WC optimum.
But that is just me
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Where do you buy 200mm fans? Can't seem to find any :confused:
Also, looking at the panel where the PSU mounts, the screw holes aren't quite right ;) PSUs don't screw in the four corners but 2 corners, one slightly off center from the corner, and then one off to the side. I have no idea who's bright idea that was, but I thought I'd mention it so you don't produce the case and find out 2 of the 4 screw holes for the PSU don't line up :p:
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Where do you buy 200mm fans? Can't seem to find any :confused:
Also, looking at the panel where the PSU mounts, the screw holes aren't quite right ;) PSUs don't screw in the four corners but 2 corners, one slightly off center from the corner, and then one off to the side. I have no idea who's bright idea that was, but I thought I'd mention it so you don't produce the case and find out 2 of the 4 screw holes for the PSU don't line up :p:
you can get coolermasters fans they use on their new cases on their website shop IIRC
@ mick : make it 8 PCI slots and the mobo compartment will be just right. That way you have room blow the mobo to run cables/wires to the bottom edge of the motherboard and it can fit 3 dual slot video cards on any motherboard :up:
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Good idea on the slots, that way you could shove 4 dual slot cards in the system using this board for example :D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130136
Most cases that bottom PCIe slot can only take a single slot card since that would be the bottom of the case, but adding one more slot would give it the room it needs :cool:
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pro: It is a very nice case with a very sweet design i really love it's look and as a lot to offer.
Cons: the compartment space where the mobo reside is too small and restraint.
seems like there could be more slot in the back for extra device like PCI card, fan controller sata to e-sata port things like that.
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But that is just me
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Where do you buy 200mm fans? Can't seem to find any :confused:
Also, looking at the panel where the PSU mounts, the screw holes aren't quite right ;) PSUs don't screw in the four corners but 2 corners, one slightly off center from the corner, and then one off to the side. I have no idea who's bright idea that was, but I thought I'd mention it so you don't produce the case and find out 2 of the 4 screw holes for the PSU don't line up :p:
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you can get coolermasters fans they use on their new cases on their website shop IIRC
@ mick : make it 8 PCI slots and the mobo compartment will be just right. That way you have room blow the mobo to run cables/wires to the bottom edge of the motherboard and it can fit 3 dual slot video cards on any motherboard :up:
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Good idea on the slots, that way you could shove 4 dual slot cards in the system using this board for example :D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130136
Most cases that bottom PCIe slot can only take a single slot card since that would be the bottom of the case, but adding one more slot would give it the room it needs :cool:
Thanks for all your input guys! :up: looks like I need to make a few more mods to this case design. The most significant mod would be making the case a little bigger, it seems. A little more room below the motherboard, so I will have to make the case, say, anther 20mm taller making it 620mm in height. A larger motherboard tray to accept e-ATX boards and enough room to fit a long PSU (I know the PSU mount isn't quite right Sparky :D). By my estimation, this would mean another 30mm on the depth of the case, making it 680mm. I've also been looking at 200mm case fans, you can see a selection here: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ain_page=index, it looks like there aren't many available at present. It also looks like I might need to extend the width of my case to accommodate some of these fans. With a case of this magnitude, it would defiantly have to be made of aluminum and maybe add some casters, because lifting it isn't going to be easy. I would like to know how people feel about this, would you be happy with a case of these proportions? :shrug: If the increase in size isn't a problem, then maybe I'll give these mods a go....:eek:
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Size is fine. What pisses me off most about current cases is the lack of size for monster watercooling needs. I say give it a go!
--Chris
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If you used any big MM case once, then nothing is big enough ...
I think the new size would be just perfect; meaning space to fit anything you want ...
PD: IF you want more cooling, just go for peltiers, any with 350w or more can take your cpu to subzero ...
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COOL STUFF :)
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Like your thinking bentleya! :up:
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Where do you buy 200mm fans? Can't seem to find any
There
http://www.antec.com/usa/productDeta...an=us&id=75200
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I actually can't come up with anything wrong with that case. Well done.
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Really all you need to do is see about getting it made or seeing if a case manufacturer wants to pick it up. I agree, well done.
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Mick, IMHO that is as good as I have seen. Would like to see this produced, even if it is in a small quantity. I would own 1
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Mick I've got an idea for you, make the top radiator compartment with a horizontal rad, leave 2 side vents but make the compartment shorter.
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This case makes one pretty big assumption from a manufacturing perspective...
How is that uni-body design manufactured? Are you going to cut the main body out of one piece of almuminum? Where are the seams? How are they going to be joined?
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That case is beautiful! well done, it looks like a silverstone at first look.... try pitching to them :D
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This case makes one pretty big assumption from a manufacturing perspective...
How is that uni-body design manufactured? Are you going to cut the main body out of one piece of almuminum? Where are the seams? How are they going to be joined?
Are you saying that producing the body from a single sheet of aluminum is a problem? If it were to be produced from a single sheet, it would only have one seam, which would be at the bottom or the back. As the case is mainly constructed from sheet aluminum, without any covers to hide rivets or screws, etc. any joins that would be visible from the outside would be soldered. You must remember that this design is only a render. If it was to be produced for real, there would probably have to be some minor modifications to aid in the construction and manufacturing process. That aside, do you like it? :shrug:
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Looks great,
Gonna cost teh earth thought isnt it?
I would try to see if you could get lian li or silverstone to make it...
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I do like it, but it's highly irrelevant.
Between the impossibility of manufacturing your main body and the fact that Silverstone would be all over you for borrowing the look of the TJ07 (I mean, c'mon man... You've even used the Silverstone feet in your render...) this will never come to market. It's fun to play around though, and your art is something I can definitely appreciate.
Regards,
Linus
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I do like it, but it's highly irrelevant.
Between the impossibility of manufacturing your main body and the fact that Silverstone would be all over you for borrowing the look of the TJ07 (I mean, c'mon man... You've even used the Silverstone feet in your render...) this will never come to market. It's fun to play around though, and your art is something I can definitely appreciate.
Regards,
Linus
I can honestly say that it wasn't my intention for my design to look like any other case. I personally don't think it looks like a Silverstone, but more like a Lian Li. :rofl: As for the feet, I don't even know what the Silverstone feet look like. I just produced four circular feet. :shrug: I was thinking of putting it on casters, but then it would look even more like a Lian Li. :rolleyes:
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I tihnk that it looks like a nice mix of the two brands,
However, I agree a little that this is going to next to impossible to manufacture
Which is a pity, since it looks like such as nice case!
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It looks like the Silverstone TJ07, but perhaps only due to the fact that it's the only other case on the market that features a unibody design like this.
Either way I'm not making accusations, and like I said, it doesn't really matter.
It's a very cool render, and I would be proud to own a case just like this.
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I wish ncix had a case like this, I would buy 2 :D
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A good quality/sturdy aluminum like Lian-Li uses.
I would so buy that case in a split second. You should patent the design and sell it to someone.
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A good quality/sturdy aluminum like Lian-Li uses.
I would so buy that case in a split second. You should patent the design and sell it to someone.
I'd rather see it made out of composite material, some kind of very strong plastic, with aluminum sides. But thats just me.
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I have to say that this is the best thing since sliced bread:up:, BUT...
I think you should make the front more "mac pro-ish", the blank space in top portion in front is the only thing I don't appreciate :D
