thermolab BARAM vs ULTRA-120 eXtreme [LGA1366 Test]

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01-22-2009, 10:59 PM
OC_Windforce

thermolab BARAM vs ULTRA-120 eXtreme [LGA1366 Test]

It is cooler developing in Korean enterprise.(http://thermolab.co.kr/)

Performance is very good and price is inexpensive.:)

Korea Retail price $44.58 (USD)

http://pds10.egloos.com/pds/200901/2...88d45014fa.jpg

http://pds10.egloos.com/pds/200901/2...88d5212636.jpg

http://pds13.egloos.com/pds/200901/2...88d5fb7f43.jpg

http://pds11.egloos.com/pds/200901/2...88d7b6225d.jpg

http://pds11.egloos.com/pds/200901/2...88d8c18b68.jpg

http://pds13.egloos.com/pds/200901/2...88d9902efd.jpg

http://pds13.egloos.com/pds/200901/2...88da5ce308.jpg

http://pds14.egloos.com/pds/200901/2...88dae64c52.jpg

Measurement point
http://pds10.egloos.com/pds/200901/2...8909c449bb.jpg

I did ULTRA-120 eXtreme course comparison test.

Test rig..
Mainboard : Asus Rampage II Extreme
CPU : I7 920
Memory : Gskill 12800 HK 2G Triple CH
Power : Enermax Revolution85+ ERV1250EGT
FAN : Bio Sonic 35T 120mm
Cooler : Thermolab BARAM & ULTRA-120 eXtreme

Test condition
[CPU : 4G Vcore : 1.35V]
Room TEMP : 17.8℃
FAN : Bio Sonic 35T 120mm (3000rpm)
CPU Full Load Utill : EVEREST FPU Stress Test

Video test.. :D

ULTRA-120 eXtreme
http://v.egloos.com/v.sk/egloos/a010...00000845701701

thermolab BARAM
http://v.egloos.com/v.sk/egloos/a010...00000846021701

Result...
ULTRA-120 eXtreme → 30℃
BARAM → 31℃

ULTRA-120 eXtreme is superior 1℃. But, I am thought that BARAN that price is more inexpensive is very superior. :up:

BARAM → Korea Retail price 44.58 (USD)
ULTRA-120 eXtreme → Korea Retail price 71.90 (USD)
01-22-2009, 11:05 PM
fatguy1992

1C difference is in the margin of error. Was the TRUE Lapped?
01-23-2009, 04:56 AM
Ar3s

holy crap i can even see your nail hasn't been cut in a long time.... that really clear for a base.
01-23-2009, 08:08 AM
Caveman787

Wow I thought the camera was sitting on the base :rofl:

If the Baram is like xigmateks coolers we may have a new price/performance leader.
01-23-2009, 09:07 AM
gatecrasherlok

Maybe its a camera with a cooler
01-23-2009, 10:36 AM
Polizei

I've been saying it for a while, heatsink manufacturers need to spread the heatpipes out within the fins instead of leaving them grouped together. BARAM did it with this and it performs wonderfully.
01-23-2009, 10:49 AM
R0bert

Awesome, especially the base, like a goddamn mirror.
Is it only me but it looks like mutated ultra? ;e
01-23-2009, 11:15 AM
kemo

Is that a machine finish or they lap those things
01-23-2009, 11:32 AM
Kaldor

Any testing with 2 fans? Last test I saw shown significant improvements much like a TRUE when you put 2 fans on it.
01-23-2009, 02:40 PM
Simps

WOW this looks so good! I really believe that Thor cooler from xigmatek has some real chance of beating true now...
01-23-2009, 11:00 PM
L'enFer

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC_Windforce

Result...
ULTRA-120 eXtreme → 30℃
BARAM → 31℃

Is it load temps? Why so low?
01-24-2009, 08:14 AM
xman01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polizei

I've been saying it for a while, heatsink manufacturers need to spread the heatpipes out within the fins instead of leaving them grouped together. BARAM did it with this and it performs wonderfully.

well said:up:
01-24-2009, 01:08 PM
Vapor

Quote:

Originally Posted by L'enFer

Is it load temps? Why so low?

Thermal probe put near to the IHS....not die temps. :-/
01-24-2009, 01:21 PM
L'enFer

"Near"? How near should the temp sensor be placed to show that temperatures? It is only 14 degree higher than room temp.
01-24-2009, 01:31 PM
Vapor

Mill out the IHS and place it in the IHS :)

That's what Intel does at least :p:
01-24-2009, 08:42 PM
tot31

X-Bit labs has a review on Baram....http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coo...lab-baram.html
01-25-2009, 02:27 AM
LedHed

I still prefer the TuniQ Tower 120 design to all others similar.
01-26-2009, 01:02 AM
Falkentyne

What is xbit labs doing with that review?

OCCT is great, but...

1.5v for a QX9650? What's the watts output of that chip when running at 3.7 ghz and that extremely high vcore? I think it exceeds the max specs for those heatpies numbers on BOTH coolers, right? I'm surprised the system didn't reboot in linpack.....

90C sure sounds like the liquid was remaining vaporized in the heatpipes...

And I don't think anyone here has had a QX9650 that required 1.5v :shocked: for just 3.9 ghz...
01-26-2009, 08:58 AM
Vapor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falkentyne

What is xbit labs doing with that review?

OCCT is great, but...

1.5v for a QX9650? What's the watts output of that chip when running at 3.7 ghz and that extremely high vcore? I think it exceeds the max specs for those heatpies numbers on BOTH coolers, right? I'm surprised the system didn't reboot in linpack.....

90C sure sounds like the liquid was remaining vaporized in the heatpipes...

And I don't think anyone here has had a QX9650 that required 1.5v :shocked: for just 3.9 ghz...

Something really common with HSF reviews: adding voltage for the sake of adding heat. It's basically 'free' heat since power scales with the square of the voltage and adding voltage (to non-stupid levels) doesn't hamper stability either.

And they're probably nowhere near maxing out either HSF :wasntme:
01-26-2009, 10:44 AM
ultimeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falkentyne

What is xbit labs doing with that review?

OCCT is great, but...

1.5v for a QX9650? What's the watts output of that chip when running at 3.7 ghz and that extremely high vcore? I think it exceeds the max specs for those heatpies numbers on BOTH coolers, right? I'm surprised the system didn't reboot in linpack.....

90C sure sounds like the liquid was remaining vaporized in the heatpipes...

And I don't think anyone here has had a QX9650 that required 1.5v :shocked: for just 3.9 ghz...

A lot of us use more than 1.5v in bench mode
01-26-2009, 10:45 AM
knissel

error: Cannot order stuff off .kr
01-26-2009, 11:21 AM
bettyfromhell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ar3s

holy crap i can even see your nail hasn't been cut in a long time.... that really clear for a base.

:rofl::rofl:
01-26-2009, 02:44 PM
Morais

X-Bit reviewed BARAM http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coo...lab-baram.html

For sure this cooler rocks, in this review, it won true by a marge of 2ºc. Awesome for the price
01-26-2009, 04:22 PM
Falkentyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultimeus

A lot of us use more than 1.5v in bench mode

I know that
but not at 3.9 or 3.7 ghz....

Either they have the worst chip known to man or it suffered some sort of damage...
The highest I saw it taking a QX to hit 4 ghz was 1.45v....
01-26-2009, 04:51 PM
Salsoolo

amazing cooler, espacially the size, smaller than the true and same performance.
where can i get this cooler? i cant find it
02-11-2009, 03:31 PM
bernardmem

When and where to get. I want one!
02-12-2009, 10:46 AM
Mech0z

Seems that its about the same price as the Mugen II and about the same performance (maybe abit better) but which is easiets to mount? I hate having trouble with that :)
02-12-2009, 03:00 PM
ONEBADMK8

Was the TRUE lapped in this post ? Was it lapped in the other tests? makes a HUGE difference. My lapped TRUE is ICE cold with a Noctua 1200 attached.

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/case-18.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/case-19.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/case-48.jpg
02-12-2009, 04:43 PM
Vapor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mech0z

Seems that its about the same price as the Mugen II and about the same performance (maybe abit better) but which is easiets to mount? I hate having trouble with that :)

Mugen 2 sucks to mount.

Have to mount the board to the HSF (i.e., screw in from the back).

Performs well though :cool:
02-12-2009, 05:53 PM
i7luver

The mugen 2 mounting is not that bad, took me about 20 minutes, and i was mounting it carefully on a 1366, if u're not using 1366 it'll be alot easier too.
02-13-2009, 09:52 AM
Avan

Has anyone found a way to buy this thing yet? I really wanna give this thing a try since the idea spending $70 on a heatsink and having to lap it and pressure mod it, JUST to make it good drives me up the wall.
02-18-2009, 05:56 AM
Avan

Not sure if this is pre-order or for sale since I can't read German, but here ya go.

http://www.pc-cooling.de/Cooler/Inte...+Heatsink.html
02-21-2009, 11:21 PM
Auld

Any news about the Baram being sold anywhere yet? it has been a while since the first benchmarks started popping up, the cooler should be for sale by now.
03-25-2009, 04:24 AM
dng

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auld

Any news about the Baram being sold anywhere yet? it has been a while since the first benchmarks started popping up, the cooler should be for sale by now.

as posted by Avan in a seperate thread, you can get it here

www.sidewindercomputers.com/thbauncpucos.html

thanks Avan. i'm seriously considering this gem as my ultra 120 can't seem to handle my PII 940 well. $52 is not a bad price at all. i'll read up on it a bit more before ordering though.
04-23-2009, 03:38 PM
Dinho Fatal1ty®

And cooper edition?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgV2-...e=channel_page
06-04-2009, 06:28 AM
Dacs

Quote:

Originally Posted by dng

as posted by Avan in a seperate thread, you can get it here

www.sidewindercomputers.com/thbauncpucos.html

thanks Avan. i'm seriously considering this gem as my ultra 120 can't seem to handle my PII 940 well. $52 is not a bad price at all. i'll read up on it a bit more before ordering though.

I'm using BARAM with my PhII 940BE.

It serves me well.

I'm in Korea so this baby can be easily obtained. Although it's quite hard to buy one outside of Korea.
09-05-2009, 09:06 PM
trt740

any update on this baby it looks great.
10-19-2009, 04:09 AM
mav2000

So what the best fans to use with this? Am currently using 2 X 1450 GT's and its doing good. Its quiet, but not the best for cooling performance...
01-19-2010, 03:35 PM
trt740

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avan

Has anyone found a way to buy this thing yet? I really wanna give this thing a try since the idea spending $70 on a heatsink and having to lap it and pressure mod it, JUST to make it good drives me up the wall.

here it's on sale http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=25535