Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H BIOS versions

LINK to available BIOS versions from Gigabyte


- F1 First release

- F2a Updated CPU ID for Phenom 9950 125W
-Also slight naming changes in BIOS (Memory Controller Freq. -> Northbridge Frequency)

- F2
-HT Link can only be be decreased from bios, not increased. AOD can be used to increase it.

- F3h Updated CPU ID for Athlon X2 7750
-HT Link speed setting now works also updwards, earlier versions could only drop HT Link.
-C1E support option disappeared
-DCTs Mode disappeared (no option for ganged/unganged, defaults as unganged with 2x sticks)
-New type of BIOS settings saving option with baby blue background, supports saving to / loading from HDD, FDD, USB
-Maximum CPU multiplier raised to x35
-Maximum NB multiplier raised to x20

- F3i
-Nothing special changes (I did only a fast test)

^ All these have cold boot issue with ACC enabled.
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- F3m Mentioned here
-Unreleased version that should have better compatibility with Phenom II's

- F3o "Update CPU ID (for AMD NPRP)"
-C1E support option back
-No cold boot issue with ACC enabled (I tried only once)
-SLOW posting when ACC enabled
-MUCH harder to get any overclocking stable
-This is the worst version (for Phenom I), but still it has some promising fixes. Not recommended for any overclocking.

- F3 "Update CPU ID (AGESA 3.3.20)"
-C1E support option disappeared again
-Cold boot issue with ACC enabled still there* but now it can be passed with simply pressing reset. After that POSTing is a flash compared to earlier versions.
(01/13/2009).
-Officially supports Deneb

*EDIT: I have had problems with booting and now it seems that after shutting down from XP, and powering up after, the reset button will do the workaround but when shutting down from Win7, I have to cut the power before getting it up again.

- F4a
-"Improve Phenom II CPU compatibility"
-"Improve Audio compatibility"
-No cold boot issue when ACC enabled
-Ganged/Unganged option back
-PCIe speed setting in AOD is acting weird. I suggest you to manually set PCIe speed from BIOS.
-Doesn't affect OC'ing, in fact, it can get you a better results.
-Highly recommended for benching

- F4
-"Update CPU ID (Support AGESA3.3.2.3 code / AM3 CPU)"

- F4V
-"Update CPU ID (for AMD NPRP)"
Might just add support for new CPU's.

- F5
-"Update ACC code and CPU ID (Support AGESA 3.3.2.4 code for Phenom X3 CPU)"
-Added EC Firmware (Normal / Hybrid) to ACC menu for core unlocking (Hybrid mode)
-Now resuming from S3 works ok
-Newest release

I am using this now, and will not look into older releases.
The best version yet.

If you need some of these, I could send them via email or msn. The versions that I don't have, are F2a and F3m

My experiences show that ACC doesn't work right in F3 bioses, so IF you need ACC to overclock your Phenom I, I suggest using F2, F4 or F5 BIOS

Updated 06-22-2009

I haven't noted ALL changes of the different versions (haven't tried F3m, F3t and F4V , so feel free to make comments and additions.

*Note that these changes and functionalities have been tested with Phenom X4 9950 BE. Experience can be different with other CPU's*

(Offtopic: AOD 2.1.5 will most assumably NOT work with this board, so get version 2.1.4 instead. I have tried both 2.1.5 versions (0218 and 238) and they will not even recognize AMD CPU. The newest 2.1.6 seems to work ok)

Update about AOD version 3 and newer: At least my rig locks immediately when AMD Boost is activated. Does not happen with older AOD versions.

Where the hell did the option for Ganged/Unganged mode go in bios F3o?! I just can't find it lol! :D

EDIT: I see, its gone sinds f3h :(

I'm so glad I stopped using this trainwreck board. I have no idea why Gigabyte bombed so bad with this particular board, when nearly all their other products are just SO good. Total bummer.

The slow booting is just astonishing to me, as all it has to do is POST, and handoff to the bootloader.... not that complicated. We've been doing that for more than a 1/4 century with PCs. :shrug:

Its amazing to me how fast both the Asus M3A78-T and the Jetway HA07 Ultra get into Vista compared to the Gigabyte. Absolutely ZERO problems with these boards. :up:

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Originally Posted by diekul

Where the hell did the option for Ganged/Unganged mode go in bios F3o?! I just can't find it lol! :D

EDIT: I see, its gone sinds f3h :(

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Did you do the CTRL F1 trick to expose all the hidden BIOS options (sorry if you already knew that!)

Jep already did that. It is just gone...

Oh and my board has no problems at all with the new phenom. Posting goes fine.

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Originally Posted by nanohead

I'm so glad I stopped using this trainwreck board. I have no idea why Gigabyte bombed so bad with this particular board, when nearly all their other products are just SO good. Total bummer.

The slow booting is just astonishing to me, as all it has to do is POST, and handoff to the bootloader.... not that complicated. We've been doing that for more than a 1/4 century with PCs. :shrug:

Its amazing to me how fast both the Asus M3A78-T and the Jetway HA07 Ultra get into Vista compared to the Gigabyte. Absolutely ZERO problems with these boards. :up:

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I know what you are saying, but I like it better for my 940..oddly enough.

http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...&enterthread=y

Some interesting stuff + dumb argument in the thread.

This guy couldn't get his PhII 940 to run, but thats a bit weird because I have seen few reviews of PhII with this board. Eventually though he said that some AMD support guy got him the bios (unreleased test version) that supports 940. The F3m.

This is what annoys me with Gigabyte, they do "tons" of different BIOS versions, but they don't keep them on their sites. I think that's lame. Of course it would be good if they had only the best performing and least buggiest version available but since that's not the case... They should have every single version available that they have come up with. Be it alpha or beta or anything. Some versions just works better for someone.

The thing he said about DCTs mode is noobish of course since it looks like he don't know how the ganged/unganged works. He just sees the number 64bit vs 128 bit and wants his RAM's to "run at 128 bit".

For the DCTs mode Gigabyte support answered:
"However, our engineers have tested these two features, the performance of Unganged Mode and Ganged Mode are almost the same, thus, it would not affect any performance on your motherboard. Sorry for the inconvenience."

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Originally Posted by nanohead

The slow booting is just astonishing to me, as all it has to do is POST, and handoff to the bootloader.... not that complicated. We've been doing that for more than a 1/4 century with PCs. :shrug:

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If you think it was slow, you DONT want to see F3o in "action"! It was just :bsod: horrible!

Not to mention how long it took to get back from bad oc... :cussing:

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Originally Posted by Meizuman

If you think it was slow, you DONT want to see F3o in "action"! It was just :bsod: horrible!

Not to mention how long it took to get back from bad oc... :cussing:

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I'm using F3O, and YES it slow on POST or Boot up, but this happen after i change my VGA from HD4670 to HD4870, before with HD4670 boot up and post very fast. I just got F3 official now.. will test it and see what changes

OK. after testing with F3 official, issue about boot up time and POST solved. Please have a try F3 BIOS

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Originally Posted by Benny Lodewijk

OK. after testing with F3 official, issue about boot up time and POST solved. Please have a try F3 BIOS

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Thats actually encouraging. I still have the board... If they fixed the POST and ACC cold boot problem, as well as general performance and fix Hybrid Crossfire (surroundview), then that would be awesome.

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Originally Posted by Benny Lodewijk

OK. after testing with F3 official, issue about boot up time and POST solved. Please have a try F3 BIOS

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Thx for sharing, gonna flash it now.

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Originally Posted by nanohead

Thats actually encouraging. I still have the board... If they fixed the POST and ACC cold boot problem, as well as general performance and fix Hybrid Crossfire (surroundview), then that would be awesome.

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Did you try F3 BIOS ?? still no solve your problem ? Hmm and what is general performance you mentioned ? This is my result so far http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=214676

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Originally Posted by Benny Lodewijk

Did you try F3 BIOS ?? still no solve your problem ? Hmm and what is general performance you mentioned ? This is my result so far http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=214676

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No, not yet. Won't be able to try it until next week, but you got some terrific results :up:

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Originally Posted by Benny Lodewijk

OK. after testing with F3 official, issue about boot up time and POST solved. Please have a try F3 BIOS

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Your upload limit is full. Any other source for this BIOS or should I just wait for it to show on GBT's site? ...I bet it'll take weeks.

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Originally Posted by Meizuman

Your upload limit is full. Any other source for this BIOS or should I just wait for it to show on GBT's site? ...I bet it'll take weeks.

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I grabbed it I will host it for now......

F3
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/MA79GD4H.F3

F3i
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/MA79GD4H.F3i

My mobo still won't boot above 265htt on the default x14 mp. Gonna try 13.5 tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by chew*

I grabbed it I will host it for now......

F3
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/MA79GD4H.F3

F3i
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/MA79GD4H.F3i

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Thanks for your help m8 :up:

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Originally Posted by chew*

I grabbed it I will host it for now......

F3
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/MA79GD4H.F3

F3i
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/MA79GD4H.F3i

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Hey! Thanks for that

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Originally Posted by diekul

My mobo still won't boot above 265htt on the default x14 mp. Gonna try 13.5 tomorrow.

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Not sure I'd complain about that one!

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Originally Posted by Benny Lodewijk

Thanks for your help m8 :up:

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And NOOO, thank YOU!!!!:up:

I want my phenom 920 to hit 3800mhz :p So i am complaining :p

Thanks a lot for F3 and F3i :) that I'm looking for a while. I'm reaching the limit off X4 940 also.

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Originally Posted by Benny Lodewijk

Thanks for your help m8 :up:

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Np

I will probably need it anyway, my board arrives monday.

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Originally Posted by chew*

I grabbed it I will host it for now......

F3
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/MA79GD4H.F3

F3i
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/MA79GD4H.F3i

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thank you!
will try F3 right now...

Big Thanks chew*!

I will try both of those and post some pointers/changes if they'll do the job right or not.

Happy to see that this thread has been useful. :)

loaded F3 yesterday.
was able to boot 3.9ghz @ 1.6v and run pi, install a few things. restarted...never booted again at that clock.
MUCH longer POST time than F3h (my previous BIOS)
still can't break 2400mhz NB


EPP runs at 400mhz instead of 500mhz like stated in cpu-z?
not familiar w/ this function...

i have a few things to do today but might put on F3i

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Originally Posted by CntdwnToExtn

loaded F3 yesterday.
was able to boot 3.9ghz @ 1.6v and run pi, install a few things. restarted...never booted again at that clock.
MUCH longer POST time than F3h (my previous BIOS)
still can't break 2400mhz NB


EPP runs at 400mhz instead of 500mhz like stated in cpu-z?
not familiar w/ this function...

i have a few things to do today but might put on F3i

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I have my NB @ 2484MHz with +0.175V, multi x12, HTT 207. CPU NB VID +0.175V
Not exactly 100% rock solid stable but freezings are quite rare.

And what I've seen, the NB should overclock more easily with Phenom II. Of course it may not be the case with this mobo.

About the EPP with 400MHz, do you mean there is EPP timings when manually setting RAM multi and RAM timings are on auto?

well i've got my NB @ 2410mhz (200.9 x 12, +.050v ) but anything over that doesn't boot...which is what i meant by not being able to break 2400mhz.
13x multi refuses to POST no matter what voltage i set on the CPU NB VID - +075v, +.100v or even +.125v...i think i might of even tried +.150v w/ 13x

bus speed increases w/ a 12x multi on the NB to put it over 2400mhz fail as well.


as for the EPP
right now, cpu-z shows 500mhz 5-5-5-12 for EPP#1
if i auto set RAM in the BIOS and switch to EPP and set to auto it boots 400mhz 5-4-4-10
as well it reports max bandwidth is pc2-6400 instead of 8000
i dunno, i might be a noob and missing something logical here. i've never ran these at 1066 until last week when i got my pII. just had a 5000+BE temporarily waiting for this cpu to be released.

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Originally Posted by CntdwnToExtn

well i've got my NB @ 2410mhz (200.9 x 12, +.050v ) but anything over that doesn't boot...which is what i meant by not being able to break 2400mhz.
13x multi refuses to POST no matter what voltage i set on the CPU NB VID - +075v, +.100v or even +.125v...i think i might of even tried +.150v w/ 13x

bus speed increases w/ a 12x multi on the NB to put it over 2400mhz fail as well.


as for the EPP
right now, cpu-z shows 500mhz 5-5-5-12 for EPP#1
if i auto set RAM in the BIOS and switch to EPP and set to auto it boots 400mhz 5-4-4-10
as well it reports max bandwidth is pc2-6400 instead of 8000
i dunno, i might be a noob and missing something logical here. i've never ran these at 1066 until last week when i got my pII. just had a 5000+BE temporarily waiting for this cpu to be released.

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It is not possible to run with x13 multi. You have do it with x12 and increase HTT. I think the limit is somewhere in the 2500MHz area...

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You can be happy with 2400MHz. You wouldn't gain any noticeable performance with higher speeds... I still would suggest a slight increase for NB and CPU NB voltages... But if it feels stable, then no use for overvolting.

Do you get a x5.00 option for RAM multi with those sticks? Btw, this review suggests that they should run at about 560MHz with default volts...

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Originally Posted by Meizuman

It is not possible to run with x13 multi. You have do it with x12 and increase HTT. I think the limit is somewhere in the 2500MHz area...

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You can be happy with 2400MHz. You wouldn't gain any noticeable performance with higher speeds... I still would suggest a slight increase for NB and CPU NB voltages... But if it feels stable, then no use for overvolting.

Do you get a x5.00 option for RAM multi with those sticks? Btw, this review suggests that they should run at about 560MHz with default volts...

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oh, did not realize i couldn't use the 13x...that explains a lot and no longer frustrated w/ that lol.
ty.
as for the voltages, i can increase the "Northbridge Voltage" as well? i read on the AMD forum not to touch that one and just use the CPU NB VID control...which kinda raised ???'s but left it alone anyway.

i do not get a x5.00. only x5.33...so 533mhz. not a lot of room for bus speed increases i guess.
just curious why EPP would state 500mhz and only boot 400mhz.
because i can't do x5.00 maybe? i dunno...i'm still nubbish w/ DDR2 RAM i guess.

I noticed that Gigabyte has officially posted the F3 BIOS on their website:

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...S&FileID=14304

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Originally Posted by agentk7

I noticed that Gigabyte has officially posted the F3 BIOS on their website:

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...S&FileID=14304

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I wonder if its the same one we've all been playing with, or is it another F3 :shocked::D

only one way to find out XD

Well, I loaded it from the Gigabyte website. It TOTALLY changes the behavior of the board. WAY WAY faster in nearly all respects... Its about time they fixed just the baseline performance of the board.

I haven't tried any stunts with it yet, just basic 9850 stability testing, no OC or anything like that.

And yes, they did remove the ganged-unganged option. It is default un ganged. I searched everywhere, including ctrl-F1 and underneath other options.

Its faster now, but why did they have to remove that option. All the memory tests I've done had ganged notably faster. I dunno whats with these guys :shrug:

i loaded it as well over top the existing F3 i had.
no huge difference imo for the PII 940
still much longer POST (if POST's at all) over F3h
still getting 'page fault in non-paged area' which microsoft doesn't reference any vista problems w/ stop code 0x00000050
common intelligence would say "don't page in the non paging area then stuipd!"...but computers are too dumb.

How the heck do you get amd overdrive to work on this board?
Says I don't have a amd cpu installed........

I just want to see temps diff between this and bios........room is cold, my intel quad is running at 32C push/pull TRUE. This board is reporting sytem temps of 23C ( believable ) and cpu temps of 15C ( I highly doubt that ) on a OCZ vindicator that ran 20C higher loaded against the TRUE.


Also anyone have a fix for the audio before I waste time searching for a fix?

Anyone hitting a wall after 3.9 with F3/F3i?

i don't use AOD...i think there are some bugs w/ the newest release though.

are your readings temps in the bios?
mine shows anywhere from 13C stock to 22C @ 1.6v in BIOS. using HWMonitor it shows the cores are @ 28-29C stock and 36-38 @ 1.6v
CoreTemp 0.99.3 shows same idle temp
using OCZ Vendetta II w/ MX-2

what is the problem with the audio? what o/s?
not getting 5.1? or svchost using a lot of processor time?

i'm hitting a wall trying to achieve 3.9 on F3. haven't used F3i
it will boot once a day @ that speed, then a restart kills it.
'page fault in non-paged area' is my most common BSOD

3.8ghz is apps/games stable w/ 1 hour of small FFT prime then rounding error on core 2 or 3 for me so far.

Nah it was the HD audio bus issue but i already fixed it, vista users may have more issues however. Namely placing the hdaudibus.sys file in bin 32 as it won't install it unless it comes from that file.

Your using the gigabyte software to monititor temps? Guess I will have to deal with it for now.

Do the AMD cpu driver have to be installed? or is that only for someone intending to use cool and quiet? I know when I used 939 you didn't need it.

hmm this looks interesting, I may try to force flash this bios.....

http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/Support/...ProductID=3004

http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/Products...ctID=2887,3004

@ chew* DO NOT USE AOD 2.1.5 with this board.
2.1.4 works flawlessly, despite the GPU clock speed/temp reading not showing.

About HD audio bus issue: I had it (the device in device manager) disabled in XP. I don't remember if I installed the driver update for it. I use SB audigy SE with X-Fi mod drivers.

UD4H Bios: Interesting. It should not be an issue to try the UD4H Bios... since if it will not work, dual bios will (or should??) take care of that...

Have anyone of you checked the older F3 and this new Gigabyte F3 checksums? I will do this when I have the time.

Time to update the first post... :up:

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Originally Posted by Meizuman

@ chew* DO NOT USE AOD 2.1.5 with this board.
2.1.4 works flawlessly, despite the GPU clock speed/temp reading not showing.

About HD audio bus issue: I had it (the device in device manager) disabled in XP. I don't remember if I installed the driver update for it. I use SB audigy SE with X-Fi mod drivers.

UD4H Bios: Interesting. It should not be an issue to try the UD4H Bios... since if it will not work, dual bios will (or should??) take care of that...

Have anyone of you checked the older F3 and this new Gigabyte F3 checksums? I will do this when I have the time.

Time to update the first post... :up:

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I will force the bios tonight, if all goes well and its decent maybe we can edit it for ease of installation for those that aren't comfortable force flashing. From what i can see the board has one extra cap and the sata is oriented differenty.......

Force flashing? (I admit it. I'm a nO0b)

One thing I like really much is that dual bios, gives a safer feeling and updating from USB is really easy.

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Originally Posted by Meizuman

Force flashing? (I admit it. I'm a nO0b)

One thing I like really much is that dual bios, gives a safer feeling and updating from USB is really easy.

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Force flash, If i try to install the bios via qflash or an average flash utility it will say the bios ID is wrong for the board.

If I use say afudos.exe I can force the flash and pray that the damage is reversable....

I think the boards are similar enough to constitute it so I will take the plunge and test whether it can be reversed.

Benny, I've been playing around with bios's and I can 100% confirm that f3i and f3 hinders OC. I'd be intersted in what changes were made. F2 seems to be the best for overclocking although I haven't tried anything other than f2, f3 and f3i. ( effects available multipliers the most, 18 refuses to boot F3, F3i )

Anyone have F3h so I can test?

I decided to give a change to F3o and oh boy. The first time I tried it, I couldn't get to windows with my earlier (semi-stable) clocks. And the experience was so afwul that I went for another version very quickly. Then, the other day, a second time with F3o... I went to bios and set my earlier OC step by step, booting after every change I made. It worked flawlessly, really. And it booted quite quickly. I tried to shut it down once and few minutes after fired it up again with no issues. And it seemed stable. I fiddled with ACC some time but then as I was so tired, I thought I'll try it the next day. Well, shut it down and went sleeping. The next day as I switched it on, black screen, waiting, waiting, waiting and there it was, the POST screen. The other day it worked without any problem. AND the OC was a no-go. It really looks like this board has serious ups and downs. I have tried to treat it well but... Well, again time for BIOS update... Now I switched (again) back to F2. If only the HT link speed would work right with it.

Nevertheless, they had to work in some extent with this board's BIOS issues, because the "F3-family" is getting big. And since they have h, i, m, and o... plus the "nameless" F3... who nows if there is more of them... Maybe thats why they released the UD4H, because the DS4H is just so crappy that they can't get it to "work".

F2 really isn't that bad, I personally think they botched f3's on purpose do to inexperienced users and trying to keep RMA status down......

After all the average people that saw Macci do all those clocks will think they can acchieve the same results... I can just imagine bricked boards by the truckload :ROTF:

I tested and can 100% confirm ACC is about as useless as tits on a bull in f3 bios's, I personally think with all the complaints they just disabled it but left the option there however it no longer works....

Its far from perfect but not that bad if you figure out how to get around the issues. Stay away from 19 multi and higher from bios and use ACC and its a cakewalk.

I didn't get that other bios to work via forceflash, Had a weird error, If someone takes the bios apart and just renames the string to the DS4H its should work like a breeze.

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Originally Posted by chew*

F2 really isn't that bad, I personally think they botched f3's on purpose do to inexperienced users and trying to keep RMA status down......

After all the average people that saw Macci do all those clocks will think they can acchieve the same results... I can just imagine bricked boards by the truckload :ROTF:

I tested and can 100% confirm ACC is about as useless as tits on a bull in f3 bios's, I personally think with all the complaints they just disabled it but left the option there however it no longer works....

Its far from perfect but not that bad if you figure out how to get around the issues. Stay away from 19 multi and higher from bios and use ACC and its a cakewalk.

I didn't get that other bios to work via forceflash, Had a weird error, If someone takes the bios apart and just renames the string to the DS4H its should work like a breeze.

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Yeah, these guys keep borking the board more and more. I can't even understand what they're thinking (or not thinking for that matter). F3 sped up the boot/post cycle enough to make me think it was better, but everything else doesn't work.

Maybe your conspiracy theory is correct :rofl:

For those having issues with Page file in non paged are while attempting to OC on F3 and F3i Try pulling 2 sticks of ram out as it appears this is the cause of it when running 4x1gig.

If anyone is experiencing this with 2x2gig sticks please let me know.

i get that error with 2x2gig

2x2gig Mushkin Redline XP PC2-8000
both in slots 1/2 and 3/4
memtest86 said it passed


i'll pull out 1 stick maybe though to see what this does

i get this error at any 3.9ghz setting of Bus x multi. voltages anywhere from 1.500 to 1.625
both F3h and F3

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Originally Posted by CntdwnToExtn

i get that error with 2x2gig

2x2gig Mushkin Redline XP PC2-8000
both in slots 1/2 and 3/4
memtest86 said it passed


i'll pull out 1 stick maybe though to see what this does

i get this error at any 3.9ghz setting of Bus x multi. voltages anywhere from 1.500 to 1.625
both F3h and F3

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OK so its a 4 gig problem then, not just a 4 slots full issue, with 2gigs installed 3.9+ is a breeze. I should have a new bios friday, I will find out if I can distribute it.

Got some problems too over here. Just installed 2x2gb OCZ spec ops 800mhz ram and suddenly i got an htt wall at 232mhz (with bios f3, the one before it was on the GB site). Gonna try bios F2 tomorrow and F3.

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Originally Posted by diekul

Got some problems too over here. Just installed 2x2gb OCZ spec ops 800mhz ram and suddenly i got an htt wall at 232mhz (with bios f3, the one before it was on the GB site). Gonna try bios F2 tomorrow and F3.

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F2 will be fine for 4 gig of ram.

well, i removed a 2gig stick and i'm running 19.5 x 200.9 @ 1.536v in cpu-z and 1.550 in the BIOS
RAM @ 1066 5-5-5-18-24-T2, 2.05v
everything else stock
BIOS F3

last time i booted @ 3.9ghz it lasted about 10 minutes and then just BSOD on me.
i'll surf around for a bit i guess.

update:
no go for me.
waited over 10 minutes, ran prime, froze the system (new...usually it crashes the whole system)
reboot, page fault
reboot, increase .025, page fault
not even going to bother trying other multi's cause i get it with multiple configs from 15-18x as well.
F2 here i come i guess.

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Originally Posted by CntdwnToExtn

well, i removed a 2gig stick and i'm running 19.5 x 200.9 @ 1.536v in cpu-z and 1.550 in the BIOS
RAM @ 1066 5-5-5-18-24-T2, 2.05v
everything else stock
BIOS F3

last time i booted @ 3.9ghz it lasted about 10 minutes and then just BSOD on me.
i'll surf around for a bit i guess.

update:
no go for me.
waited over 10 minutes, ran prime, froze the system (new...usually it crashes the whole system)
reboot, page fault
reboot, increase .025, page fault
not even going to bother trying other multi's cause i get it with multiple configs from 15-18x as well.
F2 here i come i guess.

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its the 19 multi ;) Dont use over 18. Not in bios at least.

For those of you with a Phenom II and 4 gigs of ram I suggest you try this bios from gigabyte's site.

http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/Support/...S&FileID=14266

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Originally Posted by chew*

For those of you with a Phenom II and 4 gigs of ram I suggest you try this bios from gigabyte's site.

http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/Support/...S&FileID=14266

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Does it work well for other things too, or just better more 4GB ram?

well, i'm running @ 3.9ghz...again, with 1 stick removed.
16 x 244 @ 1.550v in the BIOS, cpu-z reports 1.536 (jumps to 1.552 every now and then).
HWMonitor showing 36C across all 4 cores as i type this. will jump down to 35 for a second or 2.
2200 on the HT and NB (auto)
CPU NB VID @ +.75 (which one of these two should i be adjusting more?)
NB Voltage @ 1.350(same as above)
RAM @ 488mhz 5-5-5-18, 2.05v

network says i've been up over 11 min now...guess i'll take the plunge and run prime to see if it crashes/freezes and then reboot for my wonderful page fault error.

edit:
forgot...F3 BIOS

edit 2:
well, 0x00000124 showed up.
but i was able to boot again without a page fault error!
whooooot!

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Originally Posted by charged3800z24

Does it work well for other things too, or just better more 4GB ram?

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I shaved 1/2th second off PI 1m times ;) HT is no longer locked..... I wouldn't reccomend it for anything but PH II. SO far stability wise what i notice is I don't crash in prime anymore although I am erroring out at speeds that were stable, I'm working on it now, If i'm right this bios requires you to take .25 off vcore and add .25 to NB vid for your prime stable settings.....Its testing now. I confirmed it was NB holding me back as I dropped multi one notch and passed 5 hours......


Seem the orginal concensus deemed this bios as killing overclocking, must have used a Ph 1.......

Should have a direct comparison ready in a few more minutes.........PI 32m is 1min 16s faster same clocks. :up:

F2 bios from gigabytes site

http://members.cox.net/nfridenti/air3.jpg

F3o bios from gigabytes site ( only complaint is ganged no longer an option ) I'm testing even lower vcore than this at same clocks , results later.

http://members.cox.net/nfridenti/F30.jpg

A few things to note about the F3o bios.

Do not try to boot above 16x cpu multiplier Use aod , k10 stat etc etc
Do not try to boot with over 1.6v on air..use eztune in windows for 1.6v+
Try using less vcore and more CPU NB vid.

All i can think of, I will leave you with this for now.....Less vcore than was required with F2

http://members.cox.net/nfridenti/F30%20low%20volts.jpg

I like F3o bios:up:

06 next..

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4...shot029md6.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1...shot031we9.jpg

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Originally Posted by chew*

I shaved 1/2th second off PI 1m times ;) HT is no longer locked..... I wouldn't reccomend it for anything but PH II. SO far stability wise what i notice is I don't crash in prime anymore although I am erroring out at speeds that were stable, I'm working on it now, If i'm right this bios requires you to take .25 off vcore and add .25 to NB vid for your prime stable settings.....Its testing now. I confirmed it was NB holding me back as I dropped multi one notch and passed 5 hours......


Seem the orginal concensus deemed this bios as killing overclocking, must have used a Ph 1.......

Should have a direct comparison ready in a few more minutes.........PI 32m is 1min 16s faster same clocks. :up:

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I'll give it a try then, I gotta get my wife to let me take down the MCE for a bit, Thanks for the info.

I loaded F3... POST is faster, boot somewhat faster, OC on my hero 9850 is MUCH less, regardless of what I do. It also random crashes at any OC.

I was able to get it to run at 3ghz (15x) and 1.4v, but that was it, and it wasn't stable. ACC did nothing as usual. This particular CPU will do 3.6 in my Asus M3A79-T

I actually put this devil board in my gamer case, cuz the M3A79-T blew up and is out on RMA. Good news is that it just installed with no problems and the RAID 5 array and all drivers (the ethernet mac is different) went it with no problems too.

Bad news is that it crashes all the time unless it runs at stock multi. Any OC and it pukes.

Still the devil board. :down:

Gigabyte is such a terrific company, I have no idea how this got so screwed up :shrug:

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Originally Posted by nanohead

I loaded F3... POST is faster, boot somewhat faster, OC on my hero 9850 is MUCH less, regardless of what I do. It also random crashes at any OC.

I was able to get it to run at 3ghz (15x) and 1.4v, but that was it, and it wasn't stable. ACC did nothing as usual. This particular CPU will do 3.6 in my Asus M3A79-T

I actually put this devil board in my gamer case, cuz the M3A79-T blew up and is out on RMA. Good news is that it just installed with no problems and the RAID 5 array and all drivers (the ethernet mac is different) went it with no problems too.

Bad news is that it crashes all the time unless it runs at stock multi. Any OC and it pukes.

Still the devil board. :down:

Gigabyte is such a terrific company, I have no idea how this got so screwed up :shrug:

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All F3 bios variant's are tuned for PH II, try F2 and I would try playing with ACC if I were you ;) Just make sure to disable ACC when you power down for the night................Or you can sell it to me cheap, I could use a spare in case I toast the IGP chasing the 3d06 WR hd3300.

Still can't get it over 232mhz htt with 2x2gb ram. Damnit! I have flashed bios F2 (which didn't recognized the cpu at all and would't boot), F3o (no >232mhz), F3(no >232mhz). First with crappy 3gb value ram it could do 262mhz benchable...

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Originally Posted by diekul

Still can't get it over 232mhz htt with 2x2gb ram. Damnit! I have flashed bios F2 (which didn't recognized the cpu at all and would't boot), F3o (no >232mhz), F3(no >232mhz). First with crappy 3gb value ram it could do 262mhz benchable...

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I dunno I'm at 240 with my cruddy bargain basement XMS 5-5-5-18 4x1 gig corsairs......

I think i just found a sweet set of D9's though Ver 1.0 dominators FTW.....

Hmm i think it is time to sell my 920 lol.

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Still can't get it over 232mhz htt with 2x2gb ram. Damnit! I have flashed bios F2 (which didn't recognized the cpu at all and would't boot), F3o (no >232mhz), F3(no >232mhz). First with crappy 3gb value ram it could do 262mhz benchable...

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When I was searching for my maximums, I could hit 284MHz with every other multiplier on minimum. This was of course with 9950 BE.

Hmm the wall is gone with different ram. Plugged this 4x1gb TEAM Elite in and it works way better!

Look:): http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=496963

Done with 1.55v. Now i only need to find out to get it bench stable.

So is the general consensus to stick with F2 if you have a P1 and want to overclock? What about RAM compatibility, I have 4x2GB sticks of RAM and would like to try to get it stable at 1066 even though I know it's unsupported. Much like the "dropping down to 333 from 400 when all slots are filled" requirement on the Athlon64, I'm sure many have gotten around this with perfect tweaking.

Now I have F3. But F2 felt more stable... Maybe I'll try F2 again. I've been switching between bioses quite a lot. I just wont find the best... because there is still issues.

What I would want to see:

Possibility to use EPP profiles at any given RAM multiplier
Possibility to set CPU multipliers for each core
Faster POSTing
Get rid of Cold boot issues

Thats about it.

Using F3 Bios

4 sticks D9 GMH 1gb on kingston valuerams can't boot. But 4 sticks of kingston relabelled PCS 2gb stick can boot.

Can't hit 300htt for my BE2300 though. 290 is rock stable at low volts. don't know why

Just wondering, can F2 bios boot Ph II 940?

Edit: Looks like chew* got it working.

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Originally Posted by davidletterboyz

Just wondering, can F2 bios boot Ph II 940?

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It could not boot with my 920...

Ouch.
Thanks for the input though...

But there is 1 good thing, you can flash the board with a PII in it when you are running F2. It just won't boot further here lol

It will boot with PH II, Just make sure ACC is disabled on cold boot.

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Originally Posted by diekul

But there is 1 good thing, you can flash the board with a PII in it when you are running F2. It just won't boot further here lol

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:confused: How do you flash it without booting? Sorry, I haven't assemble the system yet...all the items have arrived except the PSU. :p:

Semi off topic, but do you think the Ga-MA790X-UD4 is going to a have a functionally very similar bios to the GP-DS4h?

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:confused: How do you flash it without booting? Sorry, I haven't assemble the system yet...all the items have arrived except the PSU. :p:

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I ment this: it posts but won't boot further than that. Maybe it will boot with an 940 in it...:shrug:

here's a screenshot with 4 x 2gb kingston valuerams. these rams can run 1k easy but I do not have a good divider to run them higher. htt stuck at 290. 300 = bsod.
doesn't boot on my kingston valuerams 4x 1gb d9 gmh.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4355/...90gx8gbce7.jpg

thats a 780g board.....this is a 790gx thread...

i probaby should have use the latest cpu-z version. anyway my old screemshot, the motherboard model is correct. just that it list it as 780g

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1917/790gxok2.jpg

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i probaby should have use the latest cpu-z version. anyway my old screemshot, the motherboard model is correct. just that it list it as 780g

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1917/790gxok2.jpg

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Try f30 bios, it should boot with your 4x1 gig sticks then.

Guys...just wondering, what software do you use to monitor the CPU temp? I'm using a xigmatek S963 HSF. At idle, Gigabyte Easy Tune 5 says 28C but Core-temp shows 41C. :shrug:

Everest ultimate & AMD Overdrive are good tools.

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Originally Posted by diekul

Everest ultimate & AMD Overdrive are good tools.

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Oh. Will give Everest a try later.

Seems I got a few of issues with this mobo.
1) It couldn't display anything when I plugged in my 8800GT. Tried on-board's dvi and vga connector gave the same result.

2) AMD Overdrive can't detect AMD processor installed. :confused: I have flashed to F3 bios.

Edit: 1) was solved by disabling onboard graphics. 2) Just saw the first post lol...trying 2.1.4 now. :D

Hey all! Could you try one thing for me? Disable NB "dynamic clock gating" and NB "Azalia" from Advanced Chipset Features. This could help with stability! Report back if you don't mind... Thanks

Wouldn't surprise me, I have all hardware disabled in bios that I don't need to bench ;)

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Hey all! Could you try one thing for me? Disable NB "dynamic clock gating" and NB "Azalia" from Advanced Chipset Features. This could help with stability! Report back if you don't mind... Thanks

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Disabling dynamic clock gating helped for me at high bus speeds 260 + thanks for the tip.

I also changed to F3o bios as it is stable at slightly higher bus speeds for me with the Phenom 2 than the F3 official.

Edit - AOD 2.1.5 worked for me with the F3 official bios but for F3o I had to downgrade to AOD 2.1.4

Edit 2 - I am having a problem with my Creative audio driver giving BSOD in vista x64 only while overclocking. When i raise CPU voltage to 1.5 volts the driver crashes on startup with audio driver error. Disabling dynamic clock gating allowed it to boot at 1.5 volts but it crashes again while running prime95 with sound driver BSOD after 30 minutes even though the CPU isnt giving errors. I have no idea why the soundcard would give me errors when I raise the CPU voltage. At lower voltages the system is stable but my overclock is more limited. I have just tried to raise the SB voltage + 0.1 to see if this might stabalise the southbridge.

hey all this is my first post on this board

anyway I recently built this system:

AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb Black Edition
Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120mm "Core Contact Freezer" CPU Cooler
GIGABYTE MA790GP-DS4H
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4 GB (2x2) 1066 (5-5-5-15)
Windows Vista Home Premium 64 Bit

I'm currently running the F2 BIOS.

Since that BIOS version doesn't recognize my CPU I've set everything manually:

http://members.cox.net/bscott85/compss.jpg

As you've noticed I OC'ed the CPU a bit, and everything seems to be running PERFECT. However, I'm curious if I'm potentially not getting everything I could be if I was to run the newer F3 BIOS.

Also, should I be OC'ing my Hyper Transport frequency to 2.0 GHZ+? It's on default 1.8 GHZ.

You may be able to push the CPU an NB higher with default HT Link speed. It won't do much difference in performance. I recommend you to overclock the NB, that will bring quite a lot of extra punch. You may need to increase CPU NB VID. Watch your temps too. It will run quite a bit hotter with high NB + volts.

I suggest you to try AMD Overdrive.

I would upgrade the bios to the F3. Probably works better with denebs.

ok admittedly i'm fairly inexperienced when it comes to this stuff

i just changed my nb frequency from auto to x10 (which i thought 200 x 10) would give me 2.0 ghz but it seems like all it did was boost the bus by like 10 mhz and the cpu speed by 10 mhz.... should i match it x17 like my cpu?

also what would the difference in f3 bios be other than vista/cpu-z/easytune recognizing my cpu as a phenom II deneb...instead of unknown model.. would there be any kind of performance boost etc? i mean ive set everything manually as is to get to where i'm at now...

im also scared of updating bios lol... i updated to F3 a week ago when i was trying to fix a sound issue(which had nothing to do with bios and i found a fix) and when i did... my vista wouldnt boot ( BOOTMGR IS MISSING) but luckily i was able to repair it with the vista disk.. had no issue flashing back to f2 tho

do i need to raise the bus speed on my cpu to get it to oc? seems like the hyper transport is stuck at 1.8... what if i raised cpu bus and lowered multiplier.. would that keep cpu same (if i did my math right) and raise hyper transport?

I have updated and downdated my bios at least 10 times from USB stick and only once it didn't work and it loaded the backup bios. So no problems on that area. You should have got 2GHz NB by setting the NB multi to x10... that COULD be just a problem in the bios. I can't say 'cos I have just a 9950 BE. I would update the Bios if I were you... Get AMD Overdrive http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_overdrive.aspx?p=1 I have had problems with the 2.1.5, though it should work with F3 bios.

Dont increase HTT reference frequency (CPU frequency) (FSB, Bus speed). Yes it would increase HT Link and NB but it would affect the RAM speed too. For example HTT 200 / RAM x5.33 = 1066MHz, HTT 206 / RAM x5.33 = 1098MHz. You have a Black Edition, use it. Multipliers are the way to go. I suggest you read some of the Deneb overclocking threads and get a better feel for what you can do with it.

yea the time the bios update screwed up i used the crappy windows updater..when i reflashed to f2 i used usb and it worked fine

do i need to set my bios to all recommended defaults b4 flashing?

and also im not sure if i followed u on this: (Dont increase HTT reference frequency (CPU frequency) (FSB, Bus speed). Yes it would increase HT Link and NB but it would affect the RAM speed too. For example HTT 200 / RAM x5.33 = 1066MHz, HTT 206 / RAM x5.33 = 1098MHz. You have a Black Edition, use it. Multipliers are the way to go. I suggest you read some of the Deneb overclocking threads and get a better feel for what you can do with it.)

it kinda went over my head :( lol

essentially all i did to OC my proc was raise the multiplier from x15 to x17... didn't even need to raise the voltage

and my ram wont let me set it at what i want to unless i enable EPP mode(which then does it automatically)

i guess f3 bios might let me?

OK

just ignore my previous post

I'm now on F3 BIOS... gave me a scare again ... BOOTMGR is missing.. thank god for vista repair being able to fix this

I'm back to all my previous original settings...

HTT = AUTO
CPU BUS SPEED = 200 MHZ
CPU FREQUENCY MULTIPLIER = x17
CPU VOLT = STOCK
MEMORY = 1066 mhz, 5-5-5-15 (however i seem to ONLY be able to achieve this by enabling EPP mode)

so my question now i guess is... how can i increase my HTT, and possibly my CPU too? ( i was able to run 3.5 ghz for a while but it blue screened after like an hour of pubbing COD4.. but could have to do with old bios/1.8 ghz stock htt, not increasing CPU voltage, myriad of factors)

ok im completely lost at how to get this HTT to increase

here is an exacT TO THE T rundown of my BIOS SETTINGS:


HT Link Frequency = AUTO (setting this to 2.0 Ghz does NOT allow me to boot, however lowering it, does lower it)
EPP Mode = Auto
EPP Voltage Control = By EPP (previous 2 lines involving EPP = only way I can get my mem to clock @ 1066 Mhz and proper timings)
CPU Clock Ratio = x17
CPU Northbridge Freq = Auto (changing this multiplier alone does nothing)
CPU Host Clock Control = Auto
X CPU Frequency (Mhz) = 200 (default, and can only change this by changing previous line to manual, I have yet to touch this ever)
PCIE Clock (Mhz) = Auto
VGA Core Clock Control = Disabled (I have a nvidia XFX 9800 GT video card)
X VGA Core Clock (Mhz) = 700 (I have a nvidia XFX 9800 GT video card)
Set Memory Clock = Auto (Changing this to manual turns EPP OFF and causes memory to time wrong)
X Memory Clock = x5.33 1066 Mhz
----DRAM CONFIGURATION PRESS ENTER---- (It's set to auto w/ EPP)
System Voltage Control = Manual
Southbridge Volt Control = Normal
Sideport Mem Volt Control = Normal
Northbridge Volt Control = Normal
DDR 2 Volt Control = Normal(Pretty sure EPP sets this to the necessary 2.1 Volts to run 1066, but not 100% sure)
CPU NB VID Volt Control = Normal(I have Nvidia XFX 9800 GT)
CPU Volt = Normal (Default 1.35V)

what EXACTLY do i need to change to increase my HTT

Just installed AMD OverDrive 2.1.6 and it works with the F3o BIOS and phenom 2.

AMD OverDrive™ Utility 2.1.6 (2009-2-11) Update list:

1. Added DDR3 memory support
2. Enhanced CPU temperature reading method for Phenom II CPUs
3. Fixed a bug in reading ACPI table

AMD OverDrive Version 2.1.6

is there any bios-version where i can turn on/off the TLB-bug?

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is there any bios-version where i can turn on/off the TLB-bug?

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No but it should be automatically disabled with the Phenom 2 and with the Phenom 1 you can use CrystalCPU http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=171105