Areca 1680ix-12 and 10 Seagate 15k.5 74gb SAS in Raid-0 :D
This is now my new OS Vista 64 drive :D
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Areca 1680ix-12 and 10 Seagate 15k.5 74gb SAS in Raid-0 :D
This is now my new OS Vista 64 drive :D
You're going to use a 10 drive RAID-0 for day to day?
Could you also show a single drive pass-through and 5-drive RAID 0 for scale? Also, if it's not too much trouble (since I know how easy it is to set up RAID arrays with that 1680), could you do an 8-drive RAID 0 using these parameters to test:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=167857
and post it? I'm curious about the difference between SAS and SATA on this controller.
What is the cache size?
That's the highest STR I've seen on the 1680. What firmware are you using?
I use 512 MB on the kontroller now. Firmware is 1.45F, that was orginal with the card. 2 gb ecc is ordered, so it is coming soon i hope :)
Here is 6 Seagate SAS in Raid-0.
1.45F ?
Does it have a numbered version like 145-80915? When I get home I'll tell you the format it appears in on the acrhttp interface.
Try that crystaldisk with 1000MB. You're just benching your cache with that 50MB.
Those numbers (post #1) aren't strange for RAID0. It's RAID5/6 that won't be able to handle this much... (I've compared this, R0 can give >1000MB/s with 8 of the same drives as in post #1, but RAID5/6 with any number of drives won't pass ~700MB/s).
I ran this on the regular 1680, not ix.
Did you got over 900 MB/s read speed? Did you Use SAS or SATA?Quote:
Originally Posted by alfaunits
Yep - 8 of the same drives as you did - 15K.5
Quote:
Originally Posted by alfaunits
Do you have pictures of it? Or did you write a "test" ?
Nice for compare :)
An 8-drive RAID0 was something I just tested, I had no intention of using it full-time.
Try it yourself, you have the same hardware, you'll see it's possible with 8 drives, 10 aren't required.
One thing I see here is that you're test sizes fit into your cache. hdtach would appear to be streaming reads to the subsystem so depending on your read-ahead value that will inflate that some. hdtune I don't think has much control over the number of files (you have a file size of 256mb which is large but still within cache) the question is how many of those files is it creating (tens, hundreds, thousands?) I haven't used it in a while but I don't believe that it creates the numbers of files needed. crystaldiskmark you have set for 5 iterations of 50MB in size which is only 250MB. Set it to 9 iterations of 100MB (I think that was the largest but it's also been a while). Also you want to disable your OS cache so it's not influencing your results.
This has got me in the mood to run some iozones against the raid-10/8 savvios I have here at least a single pass worth at each stripe size since I don't need that computer much this week or so.
Holy :banana::banana::banana::banana:. Great numbers, but I think you'd definitely benefit from throwing a 2GB DIMM in that controller.
I would like to see raid5/raid6 benchmarks.
Literally half of that in post #1.
Raid-5 :D
Use the settings here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=167857
And post up iometer results.
Thanks.
OUCH! Those numbers will hurt e-p***ses :D
OMG look at that Raid5 performance eek
Crazy stuff, what else can one say. Impressive indeed :clap:
With all the problems I see with SSD, especially the almighty intel x-25, scsi is looking good again. I'm drooling.
Don't get too drooly, the named controller maker has caused more problems with lost volumes and data than one can count... speedy, very good options - but they forgot the basic option (keep the data safe from the controller at least).
What's the best RAID 6 Adaptec available?Quote:
Originally Posted by alfaunits
I don't think their series 5 line (the ones with IOP348) differe much from each other except with regards to available ports.
I'm waiting for pricing confirmation on 52445 (24 internal, 4 external), but IMO the 5805 is best (low profile, 8 internal ports, enough for most).
5805 is perfect for all purpose workstation.........Quote:
Originally Posted by alfaunits
Isn't the Adaptec 5 series very hot? I think my Adaptec 31205 is hot, så i use a low rpm fan on it :)
it can not run without active cooling. I HAD to put a 120mm fan on it or it overheated, beeped, and turned off. This was in an open case and in 15C environment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nizzen
It's the same CPU as Areca, the entire hardware is generally the same, there is very little either can add considering the IOP handles just about everything.
The BIOS and the way RAID is handled is what differs the two, and considering the issues I have had with Areca for over a year (more than one a month), I would not recommend it to my worst enemy, much less to a normal person, and it costs more than Adaptec...
crappy piece of s***.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nizzen
Has anyone else experienced similar problems? Were these issues spread out over several cards or just one? Did you try swapping out cables and drives?Quote:
Originally Posted by alfaunits
Will the Adaptec ASR-5805 do the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by One_Hertz
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Adapt...AID-controller
yes. I've got the 5405 and it is the same thing just mine has 4 ports instead of 8. I got it on purpose because if I had 8 ports there is no way in hell I would be able to stop myself from getting 8 SSDs and ~1GB/s, which would have been expensive and troublesome in the long run. Keep in mind that it takes ~45 seconds to initialize, which is starting to get on my nerves quite frankly.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronWarrior
Is that a full 45 seconds, does that mean it will take 45 seconds for boot up or for the drives to be useable once the computer is booted?Quote:
Originally Posted by One_Hertz
Hmm, don't understand why they would release a card that would overheat without a proper cooling system?
45 dedicated seconds added to your boot process.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronWarrior
Beats me why they would release it like that :shrug:
My Areca has the same thing. Never really bothered me. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by One_Hertz
Jesus :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing hell, 45 seconds, my A-Socket PC boots faster then that.Quote:
Originally Posted by One_Hertz
Is there any SAS Raid Controller that doesn't have such a long ass boot time?
I guess you can't have it all, I was really expecting like 4-5 second bootup times using my SSD's.
Sorry if the topic is de-railed if so.
Lots of similar and worse cases noted on forums.2cpu.com
Both on 1280ML with SATA drives and 1680 with SAS drives.
Yes it happened over different cables.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogeta
Thanks, I'll have a look.Quote:
Originally Posted by alfaunits
Windows Server 2008 R2 VS Vista 64
Raid-5 performance. Check out the difference :eek:
Fastest = Server 2008 R2
Why restart a computer, or shut down a computer every day? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by One_Hertz
I don't, but when it BSODs because I oced too high I dont want to wait that long :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Nizzen
the 5805 works good for me,
with SSD's and regular drives
runs hot needs a fan, np
been very reliable and would die without it,
some guys lub their subs, i like my card
When determining your 24/7 OC (or maxing it out) you don't want to be doing it off a RAID array... :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by One_Hertz
How do you cool yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by swiftex
runs hot needs a fan, np :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by IronWarrior
I didn't mean like that. :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nizzen
Was just thinking, did he attach some fan to the card or to the case or something, you guys here are crazy with your mods. :cool:
I just place a fan to force air on the card,
kiss principle (Keep It Simple + Stupid)
3805 runs server 24/7 with no extra fan closed case,Quote:
Originally Posted by Nizzen
5805 runs hotter with external 120mm s-flex fan blowing directly on card and open case,
All the cards with IOP348 can't do anything regarding the heat, it's the IOP that runs hot - and since it's the same CPU it will run hot on every card.
Raid-0 Server 2008 R2
10x 15k.5 @ raid-0
CPU usage -1.0%? Is that like the cold fusion CPU?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nizzen
As we're approaching high numbers, this is getting important..What do benchmark tools consider to be 1 GB? 2e30 or 10e6? Is there any consensus?
SI is a trouble maker...
Is this the official 1.46 firmware for 1680 series? Is this beta?
Speederlander? Where ar tu :p:
http://www.areca.com.tw/support/main.htm
Looks like 1.46 official is out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nizzen
http://www.areca.com.tw/support/main.htm
You're maxed though already on the basic benchmarks. If you want to see if there are other improvements compare iometer or some other metric old firm vs new.
Make sure you get the latest transport. Transport is not included in the download on 1.46.
Where can I download the transport file?
Do you have a guide how to upgrade the firmware? Can i upgrade the firmware from windows.
On my Adaptec 31605 it works fine to upgrade from windows :)
Edit: Found the transport, but do not know what the transport file does :p
ftp://ftp.areca.com.tw/RaidCards/BIO...680/Transport/
Edit 2: Got my 2gb memory upgrade for the ARC-1680ix and 2 more sas disks yesterday, so hoping for more speed.
The memory is Supertalent STT 2048MB DDR2 533MHz ECC (128x8) Cl 4
That is not entirely true.Quote:
Originally Posted by alfaunits
Adaptec 5805 IOP runs at 1200Mhz while some cards run at 800Mhz using the same IOP.
Obviously running at 2/3 the clocks will produce less heat.
Use 4530 transport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nizzen
Use the archttp desktop utility to update the firmware.
Suggestion: Hook your card up to your router and use firefox to log into it using the card's IP.
Go to the upgrade firmware section when you log in. Update ALL items (firm, boot, BIOS, mBR, transport) before you reboot.
Don't mess it up or you risk major problems.
noob question guys ?
Does the adaptec 5405 card has IOP348 and 1.2Hz as same as all the 5 series cards ?
Google is you're SLAVE....Quote:
Originally Posted by koc
http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/product...ance/SAS-5405/
Well Nizzen??? Any improvements with the new firmware and memory? Post pics if there are any. :D
thank you NizzenQuote:
Originally Posted by Nizzen
OK.
the adaptec 5405 has IOP348 and 1.2Hz , and areca 1210 use IntelR IOP332 I/O processor and 800Mhz with same cash for both (256mb)
So. is the adaptec 5405 better than the areca 1210 ?
Raid-6 with 10x 15k.5
What are the read numbers?
Raid-6 read speed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
That really looks like you're using the drive while you're testing it or you have a drive going bad.
I have a fresh install of server 08 R2 on it. Maybe prefetch or superfetch is working :)Quote:
Originally Posted by stevecs
Nizzen, how loud do the drives end up sounding during your work day?
I've managed to find some HP workstations with decent internal SAS storage so I was also thinking of adding something similar to your config but wondered how much of a noise footprint having that many drives in a case under my desk would result in.
Readload is less load than many satadisks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kevikev
Only the OLD scsi disks where LOUD :yepp:
@ Nizzen
Can't reach 800MB/sec with 8x raid0 mtron 7000 (with ARC-1680ix) - it´s a pity :(
http://www.dvnation.com/vForum/showthread.php?t=68
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...04&postcount=1
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...ghlight=1231ml
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&highlight=ssd
Same with any sata on 1680ix afaik.Quote:
Originally Posted by F.E.A.R.
i.e. IOP348 is optimized only for SAS-Drives :(
Which problems has the intel X-25? (Besides the slow write speed)?Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Synthetickiller
I'm considering to buy a 8 port controller for 3x640GB WD Blue Raid5 and 3x1 TB WD Black Raid 5.
Will a ARC 1220 controller be fast enough for the job ? or do i need to look at the new ARC 1222 ?
Not for 1GB/s.!
You can get ~400MB/s. (when cache is full) - not more.
For more bandwidth you need a IOP341/348-controller. (e.g. ARC-1222)
When you use SSDs with your controller, the IOP341-series from Areca is the best compromise.
No Adaptec can beat this controllers. But sadly expensive...
I would like to see a comparisation - ARC-1222 vs. Adaptec 5805
HDTach is useless for testing raidQuote:
Originally Posted by Nizzen
Use ATTO with following settings:
Transfer size : 0,5 to 1024.00
Qeue Depth : 4
Total Lenghts : 64MB
Just teared my computer in bits - awaiting a ton of parts for my new build ; will post 1680ix / ssd results when it is up running again
"Proud owner of Areca 1220, 1230, 1680ix" which all works flawless using OCZ Vertex'es :)
jahh - også fra Norge seff :p
Maybe useless for SSD's, but the post started with SAS drives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Main
HÆÆ ???? HDTach is useless for benching any raidconfiguration no matter if it is ide,sata,sas or ssd disks that are used in the raidarray.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoiler
This HDTach limitation is a well known fact :)
usless?
It scales perfect wit number of drives. Same thing for HD tune. When it scales perfect, the program is good enough for testig raid.
@ Nizzen
A new toy :D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=281
madness much better then silly mechanical :PQuote:
Originally Posted by F.E.A.R.
We have that madness kontroller in Norway too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by F.E.A.R.
http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?se...ost&p=14306468
LSI + 7 x Intel (4 Gen1 og 3 Gen2)