But it begs the question: What is a n00b in terms of water-cooling? Let me show u
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But it begs the question: What is a n00b in terms of water-cooling? Let me show u
Beavis, flamebaiting this one isn't a good idea, your asking to get sent the same place R3 did and you dont want that.
keep the grudge to yourself and just sick him by getting his sponsors taken away by telling them the crap he pulls
PC n00b since 86
H2o n00b since '06
Certain symmetry there, doncha' think?
To me n00b= someone who doesn't know it all and is willing to acknowledge it in order to learn.
No, this is not about that other thread and anyone in particular. If you read that thread you see I mentioned myself as a noob before that other crap came up. If you guys want to go with the don't say anything about anything then we cannot discuss anything. Accusing me of flame baiting is saying you can read my mind. Now please remove your references and I will remove this reply.
TT does seem to be an equation to n00b but then let me show you uber noob:
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1...stom5gw.th.jpg
Mixing and matching of parts. if you look real close you can see I mixed tubing sizes on one setup
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/8...4custom6dp.jpg
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/d...dp.jpg/1/w.png
Well to me its painfully obvious what you left the door open to here man and sorry if I took the thread where it wasn't going to go :rolleyes:
I just don't want this to turn into a ban for you cuz we go way back to the dd forums and I like having you around :up:
H20 Noob = Someone who tries to attach a 120mm fan to the end of the water tube.
H20 Pro = Someone who tried it and then reattached it to the pump or block where it belongs.
DB, is that 1/2" and 1/4" in the same loop?!?!
Yikes!
Yes. So you might say, at least he only used a TT block . . .well, you did not see the rig I built for my wife around that same time:
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/476...stom3qw.th.jpg
LOL . . .EVERYTHING is TT except for the DD block. Check it out. I even have ALL the Aquabay accessories. So, there u go. TWO builds under my belt. Status = ? n00b. WTF?
I changed my original thread to more accurately tell what this is about. This is going to be a bumpy ride if everyone throws in their best moments
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44.../P10100031.jpg
2x MCR120 internal
Opteron 170@2.4GHz (D-Tek MP-05)
x1900xtx (XxxX...x- EK FC-1800) OC'd
MCRES-1000
Laing D5
Yes, that's 3/8" Tygon on a D5- glad I didn't try that again :p:
I had one rad pulling air through the front door, filter door and filter, the other was pulling hot air from inside the case. The top hole was exhaust. I couldn't figure out why my case temps were clearing 50c, and my CPU peaked at 55c (with 1600RPM fans front and top, Nexus in the rear). The back rad was actually warming up my components and restricting airflow to the rest of the case. The D5 was for Mk.2. Mk.1 had a bay res/ DDC combo; I thought the pump was my problem.
Yeah, n00b.
Funny thing is, I asked for a lot of advice on here and ignored most of it. Took most of it for try #2, and SURPRISE! My temps improved and I could run my fans slower/ quieter. Shocking; y'all knew better than me.
Let me show you what happened when I pulled out my Exos:
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4...07767wz.th.jpghttp://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5...07777lm.th.jpghttp://img129.imageshack.us/img129/8...07784sx.th.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5...07796do.th.jpghttp://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4...07802xi.th.jpghttp://img287.imageshack.us/img287/5...07968ad.th.jpghttp://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5...07970ks.th.jpghttp://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2...07993fl.th.jpg[URL=http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc007970ks.jpg]
so a rebuild means I can say 3 builds. status = ? n00b
Whatever. Go watch some TV.
So I buy a Monarch Hornet Pro as a clinic server (Opteron 185) and of course I have to mod it . . .arg.
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4...argexd6.th.jpghttp://img82.imageshack.us/img82/971...diumtd0.th.jpghttp://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9...argeum6.th.jpg
uh, status? Answer; n00b
One thing all those build did FINALLY teach me (after many leaks) was to leak test outside of the case.
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5...stomrs4.th.jpghttp://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3...stombn1.th.jpg
Uhr, where is this going? :confused:
Lmao DB, I never used any TT wc stuff and if I had I would have deleted any pics like that a long time ago on the grounds that they might have incriminated me!
Wc newb = new guy with too many questions and not enough semi informed reading.
Wc nOOb = someone who has a functioning water-cooled pc and STILL thinks that the TT bigwater is as good as it gets.
Not sure..
I cant find the pics of my Bigwater :( the earliest pic I have is my first Dangerden build. :rofl:
well thank god i came just in time to this forum to cancel my TT order and got me some descend WCing so i was SAVED whoohoo!!
i could imagine nevver being able to show myself in public evver!!
i started watercooling back in 1999 or 2000, these were the oldest pics i could find. i remember getting my stuff either from Cathar, dangerden or JLP.
hope you enjoy.. LOL
here are a couple more when i guess i changed out some parts
My first build:
http://www.bandwidth.se/imgs/39/0/raddeopump.jpg
http://www.bandwidth.se/imgs/39/0/close.jpg
Photos taken 2005 - 09..
Rofl yeah, it's a Volvo 142 heatercore :D
CCC so i see clamps and worm drives? also ,what rad is that? it looks thick
as requested:
the BEHEMOUTH pa120.1 :D
I guess this is my first real WC build :up:
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2...tgrrgegcs3.jpg
a PRO = like someone said, is in the business of making money, and is very knowledgeable..
Marci, Cathar, and our very own ALEX i would call pro...
Enthusiest <-- i think i butchered this spelling, is where i would put most of the people who know watercooling and love it.. Means you understand it, and your in for the fun, but not to make money or in the business of..
noobs.... someone who has very little to no existant knowledge on the subject...
Noobs... theres 2 classes i feel here..
1. Good noobs.
These are the one's that did research, that come in because they cant get any additional info anywhere else...
They used the search function of this site, and knows how to use google...
These guys listen and take what others say into consideration...
[These guys will always get a welcome on XS]
2. Bad Noobs..
They dont listen
They dont do research.
They come asking for help, but its really to show off their mistake, and when we comment, they still dont listen and try to justify..
And im NOT MEAN TO ALL NOOBS!
Just #2
IMHO, a n00b is a user who fails to use the search button or necros a 5+ year old thread with a question that has already been answered.
I've been messing with PC's since ~'94 and watercooling since ~'97 so yeah, I'm still a n00b. Anyone that claims to be a pro is obviously a n00b because if you aren't trying and learning, you have already failed.
Ahhh nostalgia...............i hate to say it but at least it was fun back then :rolleyes:
Check that solid alu Evolution I hard drive block in the top 5.25 bay :D
http://www.coolercases.co.uk/images/plexi_mod/15.jpg
n00b = me before I read the stickies. Trust me, before I read the stickies I had enough info to actually be dangerous with anything I would've touched. I learned it cannot be done until you get a bsic underatanding and build from there. A new person to watercooling can make a real mess out of things and can put together some really expesnive stuff and have it not work worth a darn.
pro = ona serious note, a pro gets paid, so the only pros I know are people who have buisnesses that sell watercooling supplies and stuff. They are pros.
As far as knowing everything? It's impossible. If I ever get the big head and think I got anything all figured out, that's when I quit it until I get my head screwed back on straight again. It's the kind of thinking that when you mess with the kinds of things I mess with usually results in disaster. In some of my other hobbies, and past jobs that thinking could actually be deadly and would've got me killed.
I'm getting ready to order stuff, and you can bet I'm gonna be asking questions, and will be continuing to read here. There isn't much that isn't already covered on this forum. That's why I don't ask questions very much, but sometimes I do when I can't find stuff. This is the place to ask them.
If it were not for this place I wouldn't have near the system I have today, and I don;t even wanna think about the mess I would've made out of a watercooling setup, or god forbid the damaged or destroyed hardware that could've gotten zapped.
I love threads like this becasue they are up front and I've learend alot. I've already seen stuff here and picked up more tricks again. Every day I come to this forum I learn something new. Sometimes it might get a little rough in here, but it has it's own atmosphere. This is a place where people just tell it like it is. I like it like that. i don;t wanna hear "Yeah, that setup is perfect, if I was asking about a TT Setup" if I hear "Whoa Dude! Avoid that, it's trouble", that's exactly what I come here to hear. :up:
dammit
You guys with the old pictures no fair...
i stopped and lost all my image shack pictures for my really first builds... lol..
didnt start using photobucket until X2 days.
Love some of the early builds. This thread does serve a good purpose if people just starting out read it. Point is ... you don't HAVE to get it perfect the first time. In fact, most of us never will get it perfect. We shun TT and some of the other pre-made stuff ... but my guess is these kits get people into water cooling who would never take the time to learn otherwise. I think we've seen a number of threads lately where folks are afraid to make a move until they get the right parts, right loop order, etc. etc. ... nothing wrong with research, but sometimes we can learn a lot by following the Nike way.
I didn't even own a digicam till early 2000's. I wish I had pics of my P3V4X, 933 ES and my homeade water setup. THAT rig was ghetto but it was brutal fast.
And can I point out to all the haters on me for being an ATI guy something:
what logo is on the NB fan shroud??? what brand video card is that in there??? :cool:
I OWNZ all teh noobz
That's not just N00b rip ,that uber N00b ghetto................
[XC]Riptide 0wnZ aLL uR n00bz :eek:
I think that is his case.....................
What a blast from the past...........just plugged in an old drive and started going through some of the old stuff :rolleyes:
Anyone remember the original Thermochill block???..............no prizes for guessing who machined it :D
http://www.coolercases.co.uk/images/...s/tc_block.jpg
You guys have got this all insanely backwards wrong delux. The ONLY thing, only thing! that matters is how many posts you have.
<360 = Super noobness
360 - 362 = Super pro delux
362+ = N00b-newb
Hi, my name is skinnee and I'm a n00b for life! :D
Hello skinnee, DAING!, that now makes two of us :shrug:
What is a Noob? Well I am one. I learn something new here every day from the wealth of knowledge that is XS.
I came to this forum knowing a little about PC watercooling but a good amount about watercooling. The largest watercooled system that I have worked on was a 450 tons R-11 Centrifugal. But with the "Stickies", "Search" function and help of people such as nikhsub1 I was able to start piecing the information together. We all start somewhere and it is a journey that is best walked with help from those who know the path.
So many times I read threads where people are hungry for knowledge but do not know how to ask the right questions. It is our responsibility to pass on our knowledge that we obtained with someone else's help. There are so many talented people on this forum that have paid their dues and know how to impart that knowledge. Yes there are those that come here wanting to be spoon fed but it is our nature to want to jump in sometimes before we really know how deep the water is. I was impatient at first but I was politely guided to the Stickies, asked to read them and come back when I had a basic knowledge of PC watercooling so that I could ask the right questions. Those "Teachers" knew that the journey is sometimes more rewarding than the destination. :)
Its a none stand still science so anyone that tells you he knows the holy grail of water-cooling is a charlatan at best ;)
<<<<<<< proud of his noobness and always willing to learn
what amazes me the most is how many different watercooling parts are available these days. I mean you can get anything. Companies spending alot of time on the forums really trying to give us exactly what we want. I give them the highest praise because we really demand alot.
I remember back then if you wanted to overclock then you looked up to DJ and Macci, they were the kings of overclocking. For watercooling though IMHO there has only ever been one professional, CATHAR. Some of the ideas he came up with were nothing short of revolutionary. If it werent for Cathar watercooling would still be in the stone age.
Ive been in watercooling for almost 10years now so i dont really ask many questions. Not to say i dont have them but that is the beauty of this site , you can find the answer to pretty much any watercooling question. And if you dont just ask and im pretty sure someone knows.
CCC
I have fond memories of the old ProCooling days and tbh if it wasn't for Danger Den (Dan Jeremy and Dennis) giving us all these so called toys to play with i'd maybe never have come up with loads of the :banana::banana::banana::banana: i did.
I do always remember a quote from Gabe in one of my early builds saying i would get much better temperatures if i flipped the radiator 180degrees...........from that day on i thought, this guy doesn't always practice what he preaches as i'd ran both ways without a hint of temperature difference though i kept it to myself :D
You live and learn ;)
We are all not noobs! Look at this, this was the first nforce 2 board that I volt modded the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of LMAO. vcore, vdimm and vdd volt mods and it still ran like crap :(
http://netbetty.com/H20/asus/wholeboard.jpg
My uber strong pump! The Eheim 1048
http://netbetty.com/H20/pump.jpg
ZOMG its my DD Maze 3
http://netbetty.com/H20/mazeclose.jpg
I will admit that I am not a noob :D
nikhsub1
not a n00b
Despite the accusations of being a know it all by a few here, I have said and will always maintain that I know enough to be dangerous. ;) Dangerous n00b 4 LiFe!! :rofl:
Here are some pics of my first build circa 2003.:rofl: Man, did that Aria suck donkey b***s.:down:
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5...rontbc2.th.jpg http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9...0018ef5.th.jpg http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7...0017se7.th.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7...0005du3.th.jpg http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1...ingspt4.th.jpg http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2...rheoxd7.th.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9725/modkk0.th.jpg http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5...tuffwi3.th.jpg http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7...viewzn2.th.jpg
Kit was an Asetek waterchill something or another. It had a
BIP 120
Hydor L30
what they now call their "Antarctic" block
and I added a NB option that you can just make out in some of the pics
Custom made the res myself.
Can't recall ATM what the heck it was cooling. :shrug:
my first system
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...2/DSC01391.jpg
Oh man Waterlogged, another Aria Owner circa 2004. I had three of those cases, and one I built for a neighbor. Two out of four of the 300 watt PSU's died, and Antec didn't have replacement PSU's until they redesigned the Aria in 2006.
Chucked all those cases in favor of the X-Qpack m-ATX cases that could take a full ATX PSU. Gah, those Aria cases were a PITA to work on too with their micro screws for the riser cards. Stripped out something fierce. Thanks for the nightmare. ;)
Opposite of n00b you are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVo4G...eature=related
Make that old and crusty
Waterlogged is the original king of SFF watercooling :up:
I would just like to join in here... I am a liquid-cooling n00b. But there's so much information to be read here at XS that it makes being a n00b enjoyable. I wouldn't have it any other way. :cool:
The day that there is nothing left to learn will be a sad one. Let's hope it never comes.