CRYO-Z up close

CRYO-Z up close

I wasn't sure if this is the right place for this, feel free to move it if the Mods wish.

So we start out with the shipping container that the units comes in. It’s very strong and has 4 straps that hold everything together.
All in all it appears to be packaged very well.
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8471/pic1dx7.jpg

Next picture I have cut the straps and removed the outside box. There was stryo side panels inserted on all 4 sides and the top, these feel out when I pulled the box off.
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5865/pic2tt6.jpg

And here are the styro panels
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5654/pic3xn2.jpg

Now all the mounting pieces, foam, manual etc.
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5991/pic4ee0.jpg

And finally the unit sitting on the table all unboxed.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6183/pic5qs4.jpg

There was some kind of glue or other material stick in the grills in a few places.
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1060/img0503yw7.jpg

Now I have unscrewed that back screws, and pulled the top open. This is about as far as it can be opened without complete disassembly. Meaning that the suction line and insulation with evap at the end would need to be taken off to remove the whole top lid. Which is more than I wanted to do at this time.
So here is the left side of the unit.
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9594/img0504ax5.jpg

A few close up’s.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/473/pic10cb3.jpg

The controller board is mounted up in the top, not a very easy place to get to if any work has to be done with that.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6943/img0506wp8.jpg

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6721/img0507fm1.jpg

Now we flip over to the right side and take a look at what’s there.
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8066/img0508ko3.jpg

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2423/pic15nb2.jpg

The evap, sorry it’s a bit blurry
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4078/pic17ok0.jpg

There is a snap ring that comes right off so that the clam shell can be removed very easily.
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/7403/pic18yh4.jpg

Now this is the manual bag and mounting parts. This was not inside the box. In fact it was said that this was a major problem with the one they shipped before, that is there was no mounting parts in that unit. For some reason I believe that this was added later, again it appeared that the first units did not have this included. The other unit that they had also had this bag on the outside. They seemed very concerned that I made sure I had that bag.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6814/pic19mw4.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8248/pic20es4.jpg


Ok this unit appeared to be packed very well, it had no damage what so ever. The only blemish was the glue stuff on the front grill. Other than that it’s a very nice unit and seems in very good shape. OCZ did a great job of putting all this together, it seems very neat and well done. This unit is not light by any means so shipping it might costs a bit. The only drawback that I could see is if you do find another unit elsewhere be sure that it has the bag with manual and mounting materials. I am sure that this was brought to the attention of OCZ and was rectified.

As I have many other projects going on atm I will set this up later and review how everything goes with that.

The projected machine will be the one in my sig. Yes it is a QX9770. Now before I even start that I want to be clear that I will not be looking for a 2.0+ volt 5 bazillion ghz OC. Tho the condenser is much bigger than a chilly that I have seen before. I wish I knew what the Evap looked like inside, perhaps it’s just a chilly evap. May be Ryder would like to say what it is. I will let the others here with more experience in these builds say what they think about all this.

I would say so far, very nice job OZC, so far this looks great !

opps looks like I used a few images that I did not scale correctly, sorry about that. I can resize those if needed.

i thought the cryo was charged with 404a? or did i read that somewhere else? at least they put a schrader so you can recharge it :D might wanna try making that dryer have a bit of a slope down toward the cap tube, i hear puddles can occour

nice mate :)

when are we gunna see you bench her?

also
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4078/pic17ok0.jpg
that pic is not blurrey... great focus. the evap isnt... but look at the pin behind the evap :OP dslr?

Hurry up get benching :P I want to know if they are any good, before they are all gone. Then I know whether to drive 2-4hrs to pick one up :)

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Originally Posted by vab206

i thought the cryo was charged with 404a?

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R507

Am I wrong or is it only available from a few stores on the west coast? I'd pick one up myself if I could drive to a store in/near Minnesota

exellent eye wanna see what 1 of these will do !!

just cant see 900 bucks for the other units new even if thier more watt capeable :shakes:

nice pics, looks well put together and the case looks slicker than puppy do!
Ahh, is there a dual head model that will handle say 350w load?:ROTF:

The case is really nice, but the copper works dont look very good to me. They even didnt clean off the flux so in a few weeks the copper lines will look like the roof of a 300 year old church...

But hey, its cheap and I am looking forward to the results. Does anyone own a OCZ and a load tester?

Regards,

Philipp

I would listen to vab206 and get that drier tilted before benching. When you tilt it, you ensure that pure liquid is going through the cap tube, and not a mix of gas/liquid.

It's a very common rule of thumb when using cap tube. Don't know what OCZ engineers have been thinken when designing this. :shrug: :shrug:

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Originally Posted by PhilippF

The case is really nice, but the copper works dont look very good to me. They even didnt clean off the flux so in a few weeks the copper lines will look like the roof of a 300 year old church...

But hey, its cheap and I am looking forward to the results. Does anyone own a OCZ and a load tester?

Regards,

Philipp

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Agreed. Components all look cheap but hey, it's supposed to be cheap :up:

Looking good.

Can't wait to see how it performs. ;D

for me, case looks very very good :D

I would so much like to get my hands on one. :)

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Originally Posted by Duzter

I would listen to vab206 and get that drier tilted before benching. When you tilt it, you ensure that pure liquid is going through the cap tube, and not a mix of gas/liquid.

It's a very common rule of thumb when using cap tube. Don't know what OCZ engineers have been thinken when designing this. :shrug: :shrug:

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it shouldn't be a problem... not ideal for sure but i don't think you will notice it except perhaps longer startup

just looking around and found this think it has a Chilly evap :)

Not listed in OCZ’s official documentation is the fact that the Cryo-Z was designed in part by chilli1, a HVAC/R engineer who has become known in the computer enthusiast industry for making one-off and small scale production phase change components. The Cryo-Z uses an evaporator designed by chilli1 and it is considered by many to be superior to the evaporators used by other companies.


this is where got it from http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/132...ted/index.html

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1060/img0503yw7.jpg

i just noticed how crooked the OCZ sticker is :/

I thought I heard $300-$400 but that was awhile ago :shrug: I bet it would be great on a vid card.

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Originally Posted by teyber

it shouldn't be a problem... not ideal for sure but i don't think you will notice it except perhaps longer startup

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Depending on the subcooling, i'd say it will make a big difference.

It's like when you get flashgas to your TX (thermostatic expansion valve) valve, the performance drops alot.

This is because in phase change systems where you use synthetic refrigrerants, up to 40-50% of the refrigerant has evaporated just going through the pressure drop, this leaves 50-60% to evaporate in the evaporater.
Therefore you need to get pure liquid to you TX valve.

As long as this unit can hold E8500 5.2Ghz @ 1.7ish vcore and finished 3D'05,03 benches or 32m Spi m (with evap. temp. around -29ish C at peak load) then all is ok:)

400.00 usd and u pick it up http://www.centralcomputers.com/ccp6...uzzzoczcrr.htm

Could only pray a phase unit so cheap becomes available in my country of residence i.e India, but I know that will only remain a dream... :(

ooooo :shocked:
lovable unit for the price
cant wait to see the performance.
maybe its possible to build a case containing the unit on the bottom

ok which Calif clocker is gonna start picken them up and mailing them to all us needy overclockers hummmmmmmm Buckeye :D

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Originally Posted by HDCHOPPER

ok which Calif clocker is gonna start picken them up and mailing them to all us needy overclockers hummmmmmmm Buckeye :D

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HAHA well I wish I could, really, get more.

But with the stories of broken units and turned upside down shipments they would require another package to put the unit in to protect it, just to be sure it arrived safely. At least I think that.

Shipping stuff is beyond me as I am not a shipper or know anthing about doing that kind of stuff. The unit is like 50+ lbs so it's not light by any means.

hahahahahahaa it's cool man just picken on ya :D

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Originally Posted by HDCHOPPER

hahahahahahaa it's cool man just picken on ya :D

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HAHA I know. Believe me I thought real hard on getting that second unit, but $800+ was a bit much.

Guys make it simple.
1) Buy the unit;
2) Send email to C.Computers assuming that they are not reliable for any shipping problems with the unit and you will be in charge to do this with a 3rd party shipping company;
3) Get DHL to pick it up for you with a pre-paid waybill that has to be printed in C. Computers or you should mail them the label before DHL pick it up;
4) On shipping instructions make sure you ask them to handle with care like a fridge without tilting the unit (use ground shipping as air will mess up with gas inside the unit);
5) Insure it and if it comes busted go after DHL for your money back...

Simple and efficient.

When I was there they said they will not ship. So not sure what the point of doing all would be.

wow thats lame, so OCZ basically had this thing advertised like mad, and then sent all the units to one place that will not ship so only very few peopl will ever see these units. Man thats :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up.

They won't ship becasue of damaged units and missing parts before.

The package that it comes in is nice and all but I doubt it will handle shipping very well, unless it gets repacked.

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Originally Posted by Buckeye

They won't ship becasue of damaged units and missing parts before.

The package that it comes in is nice and all but I doubt it will handle shipping very well, unless it gets repacked.

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That's what insurance for.

Take my word for it if you follow the directions I posted above they WILL handle the unit to the shipping company but that doesn't mean they are shipping they are only handling for your designated picker upper :)

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Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

That's what insurance for.

Take my word for it if you follow the directions I posted above they WILL handle the unit to the shipping company but that doesn't mean they are shipping they are only handling for your designated picker upper :)

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have you ever seen how they handle packages? the person you tell that too nods their head and you will notice they don't even write anything down... Then you see them toss it in a bin:down:

just for info guys,
SEKO Worldwide, handles sensitive shipping of fragile articles, such as plamsa TV's. I had my high dollars TV shipped from New York to Arizona by them with no damages or carton breeches. and that was 3 years ago. and the plamsa TV is still looking like brand new. I highly recommend them;http://www.sekoworldwide.com/home/track.aspx:yepp:


I'll stay with my Jinu build, It's been wonderful with no issues, and the cleanest construction and copper welding, I've ever seen.

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Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Guys make it simple.
1) Buy the unit;
2) Send email to C.Computers assuming that they are not reliable for any shipping problems with the unit and you will be in charge to do this with a 3rd party shipping company;
3) Get DHL to pick it up for you with a pre-paid waybill that has to be printed in C. Computers or you should mail them the label before DHL pick it up;
4) On shipping instructions make sure you ask them to handle with care like a fridge without tilting the unit (use ground shipping as air will mess up with gas inside the unit);
5) Insure it and if it comes busted go after DHL for your money back...

Simple and efficient.

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thx firerx ! gonna check them out

hoot hoot !! just gotta contract to rebuild a den/liveingroom for a neighbor !!
& eye dont even own a hammer :rofl: thank god for batt powered screwdrivers


CRYO-Z your a$$ is mine now :D

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Originally Posted by teyber

have you ever seen how they handle packages? the person you tell that too nods their head and you will notice they don't even write anything down... Then you see them toss it in a bin:down:

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Yeah when fed-ex dropped off my Vapochill LS the driver flipped it
upright :shakes: and took it out of the truck.

It works though.

Im going to sell it anyway.

thought it was just like a fridge you can lay it down on its back but then you got to put it upright and let it set a few days to let the oil return back to the bottom before turning it on and everything is ok ??

where in Okla sirheck ?
scooled in lawton myself

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Originally Posted by HDCHOPPER

thought it was just like a fridge you can lay it down on its back but then you got to put it upright and let it set a few days to let the oil return back to the bottom before turning it on and everything is ok ??

where in Okla sirheck ?
scooled in lawton myself

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Good ole shawnee america.

Yeah it actually set for a week or so before i used it.

Mine arrived today in perfect conditions! A+ to DHL! They followed all the instructions and it arrived without even expected dings and dents to the package. The box was immaculate!
They even had the extra care to wrap the manuals and stuff that comes on top of the box in a DHL document slip. They used an extra layer of plastic on top of everything.

The unit seams great and I wonder if it will fit inside my new case build (and I should kiss warranty bye bye if I really do that).

So here is the hint for those saying that Cryo-Z can't be shipped...

good to hear man dhl is good

Jor3lBR Thanks man for the tip!
"Where there is a will there is a way" Time to save some money.

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Originally Posted by Duzter

I would listen to vab206 and get that drier tilted before benching. When you tilt it, you ensure that pure liquid is going through the cap tube, and not a mix of gas/liquid.

It's a very common rule of thumb when using cap tube. Don't know what OCZ engineers have been thinken when designing this. :shrug: :shrug:

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Actually for a capillary to properly work you need to have both liquid and gas in it. Tilting the filter does have some effect, however of more importance is the contact between teh capillary and teh suction line, intimate contact will insure that we have a liquid stream exiting teh end of the cap tube.

Holey crap the dead have risen! How are you doing?
Are you going to be sticking around for a while?

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Originally Posted by chilly1

Actually for a capillary to properly work you need to have both liquid and gas in it. Tilting the filter does have some effect, however of more importance is the contact between teh capillary and teh suction line, intimate contact will insure that we have a liquid stream exiting teh end of the cap tube.

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Boy am I glad to see you around here, welcome back. :up:

I hope your managing to get on top of things now and return to normality.

Chilly1 is back? :up: Great to see the master back.

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Originally Posted by chilly1

Actually for a capillary to properly work you need to have both liquid and gas in it. Tilting the filter does have some effect, however of more importance is the contact between teh capillary and teh suction line, intimate contact will insure that we have a liquid stream exiting teh end of the cap tube.

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Hey Chilly, good to have you back :up:

If you can remember, what load where these things tuned for ?

This is a very nice unit btw, just what we needed, a nice prebuilt Phase unit with all the goodies.

Finally fired up my Cryo-Z! Now I can give you guys my feedback on the unit:

I noticed that my inside was a bit more tidy then Buckeye's unit, I had more insulation around the pipes and the wires had a cleaner look. Didn't mean much because my unit won't fire up my board so I had to do a little improvisation to get it working as needed.

Despite that and against all the odds I got this from CentralComputers and I live in Arizona so I did get the shipping thru DHL (especial care item) and I must say I'm very satisfied with this beast!

Now for the golden rule on Cryo-Z: SOCKET ASSEMBLY IS EVERYTHING! If the base isn't perfectly assembled on top of the cores and with the right pressure this unit won't hold even a Core Duo in idle! I had to try 4-6 times to get it right and best so far was using the eraser insulation and using butterfly nuts tighten the hole thing WITHOUT the springs. My method was to assemble the hole unit and go to BIOS cpu temp reading until I got the lowest subzero temp on the CPU, adjusting pressure etc until I was satisfied with the installation.
Insulation:
http://i34.tinypic.com/a1ogw4.jpg

I'm still very far to push this thing to the limits as I'm still burning-in the cpu so far the more I push the more the unit seams to go lower in temps :eek:

On idle it's holding the Quad9650 @ 4049Mhz with -46 according to Smartguardian :shocked:

Q9650@4049Mhz Idle:
http://i36.tinypic.com/vg7fhs.png

Q9650@4049MhzFull Linpack Load (wont get hotter then this) held the Quad @ - 25 to -21:
http://i36.tinypic.com/xc6c13.jpg

And after that I decided to let Linpack running 24hrs and I got this picture from the Cryo-Z in the next morning:

Cryo-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:
http://i34.tinypic.com/33peeit.jpg

:up:

I never thought about implementing ocz cry technology into phase change! :up::p:

lol talk about optimistic temps
-69C hehehehe

looking forward to you trying to bench past 5GHz to see how it handles higher load

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Originally Posted by dinos22

lol talk about optimistic temps
-69C hehehehe

looking forward to you trying to bench past 5GHz to see how it handles higher load

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Yeah for $399 is fair enough.

Can't do 5Ghz with my quad on the DFI X48 (running Crossfire X16). Aiming to run 500x9 for 24/7 lets see. Or maybe go higher on those volts till 1.6-1.7vcore and vtt just to see when the Cryo-Z gives up :up:

Has this been released yet? I keep hearing different stories about it being postponed due to faulty equipment and the like. I'd like to buy one but I can't find any place that sells it.

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Originally Posted by Cool Vibrations

Has this been released yet? I keep hearing different stories about it being postponed due to faulty equipment and the like. I'd like to buy one but I can't find any place that sells it.

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Yes just pick one up @ Central Computers in San Jose!

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Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Yes just pick one up @ Central Computers in San Jose!

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San Jose's so far though. :(