DFI JR P45-T2RS Engineering Sample

I little box arrived for me from Taiwan the other day - what could it be?

An engineering sample of the new DFI mATX board :)

Let's take a tour shall we?
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7358/dscf1314er7.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/627/dscf1321tm7.jpg
This is the ES board so the final heatsinks will be different

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6213/dscf1298ij8.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2931/dscf1299sm6.jpg

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Single phase PWM for the RAM

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6 SATA 6 USB IDE FDD 2 COM Ports

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1852/dscf1301ob3.jpg
4 Phase PWM power design

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/9965/dscf1305lk8.jpg
I/O Panel - jumper is for BIOS reset

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/7700/dscf1306xn1.jpg
Clockgen IC

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/638/dscf1308hu4.jpg
PWM Controller

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2631/dscf1312wn4.jpg
HD Audio via Realtek ALC885

Bios screens to follow.

Performance wise....600FSB is not a problem ;)

Startup Splash screen and our old familiar AwardBIOS screen
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Genie BIOS Settings in "Easy Mode"
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Time to hit the F9 key :)
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Options galore!
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A Plethora of voltage settings for a mATX!
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PC Health with the usual PWM fan control settings
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2733/dscf1371xs3.jpg

CMOS Reloaded - Four banks to save to with options to auto select in the event of a bad boot and auto save successful boot
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9753/dscf1372mi0.jpg

600FSB 32M stable :)
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1...reen006zb9.jpg

Some Crossfire action care of two HD4870 cards - how about 24.5K 3DMark06 on a mATX box ;)
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/871/3dmark06wp1.jpg

thxs for sharing :)
Indeed, your ES sample is not similar to the retail one: no heatpipe nore ez switch

ooooh interesting.. im really looking forward on seeing some benchmarks

Looking forward to the results JB...

my next board

Foxconn and DFI are one?

Thanks for the nice shots!

@mund

Foxconn just manufactures parts and stuff. :D All boards will pretty much have foxconn made components.

Excuse me while I go fap. Unless Asus can answer this board with something equal, this is going to be my next board. Please tell me memory settings allow tRC of 45 or higher. I believe ITOX and DFI are one, and that box looks like a generic ITOX box. We use ITOX boards, unfortunately they suck and are like the exact opposite of their DFI bretheren.

Thanks for the pics.

I do hope DFI doesn't go down now that Foxconn have bought some of the minds ;). This and the new DK revisions are fantastic signs.

Foxconn and DFI are unrelated companies. The socket protector is sourced from Foxconn and is why it bears their name. ITOX is a U.S affiliate of DFI and has been since 1987. DFI sells their ACP boards under the ITOX name.

BIOS screenshots uploaded

AHH! I've been waiting for this board. If I can find an etailer with them in stock then I'll order it immediately!

Thanks for the good info. cant wait to see the performance results. Thanks

Monster MATX board! :D Good to see that the board has all sorts of tweaking options. :D

a few threads on here already got over 600fsb for this board. cant wait for launch! finally a real gaming board in mATX size

Very interesting board, propably going to replace my Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R on my HTPC :)

Looks awesome, great job mate :)

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Foxconn and DFI are unrelated companies. The socket protector is sourced from Foxconn and is why it bears their name. ITOX is a U.S affiliate of DFI and has been since 1987. DFI sells their ACP boards under the ITOX name.

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I heard that Foxconn offered more money and a fair few DFI staff went. I could have heard something about nothing though :p:

Looks like an excellent matx board. Might have to pick up one of these to play with :)

Looks nice! I'd like to know how it handles quads though...one reason why I decided not to wait for this board and went for a P5Q-D :)

release date for the T2RS version ???? im waiting for one ....

Motherboardro.com is taking preorders, here. Steep price though.

nice mobo, monster matx.

does anybody know when will the ddr3 version be released?

I am so excited for these new Jr. boards. I am trying to force myself to wait for the DDR3 version (which I think is due in September). If Asus doesn't come out with something comparable then I am definitely going DFI.

Benchmarks please :)

Can we get an update? A couple of guys over at [H]ardForum got this board and can't get much past 400 FSB. Of course they have the released version and not Engineering samples.

Nice to test Johnny............. long time no see............:):)

@MassiveOverkill : how about this one .......................:):) FSB 685 :D:D

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=401576

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8994/90168697bg2.jpg

Massive is most likely looking for realistic results, With a 11 August date that submission was most likely done in the lab. What could that mean? All kinds of possibilities. Subzero cooling, handpicked components, custom board most likely tuned with a scope. Lab results mean little if they can't be duplicated by the end user.

Couple of results up :)

Nice JB, did you test the top end fsb or is 600 about it? I see you have some more voltage space ;)

very much just a case if aiming for a round number I believe 685MHz has been hit in house at DFI - I'm just using air cooling ;)

Email from DFI HQ:

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Yes, JR P45 Micro ATX board has “2 PCIe v2 x16 slots” , due to our SPEC. definition for it, we fixed 2 slot are 8X+8X supported.

Due to the design limitation, there is no jumper array or digital switch to let PCIE1 become 16X supported



But, do not worry about the 3D performance. We believed there is no a bigger performance gap between 8X/16 Gen2, even CF enabled.

Picture is the test we done on ATI 4850 for your reference (DK P45 compare to LT X38)





PCI-E bandwidth
3dmark Vantage Score
GPU Score
CPU Score
File link:

8X Single
4982
6049
3258
DK_P45_PCIE4_ATI_HD4850.jpg

16X Single
4996
6071
3262
DK_P45_PCIE2_ATI_HD4850.jpg

8X+8X Crossfire
6459
9725
3217
DK_ATI_HD4850_Crossfire.jpg

16X+16X Crossfire
6933
9643
3762
LT_X38_T2R_HD4850_Crossfire_



Have a nice day!

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So, fixed at 8x full time, but they claim there's little to no performance hit for this...

Thanks for the update. Shortly after I made my last post, one of the guys was able to hit 500FSB on his Core2Duo.

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Email from DFI HQ:



So, fixed at 8x full time, but they claim there's little to no performance hit for this...

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Ok, that does it for me. I was thinking of try this thing out but now I've decided not to.

Why in heavens do they cripple the board like that? And where are the quad results?

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Why in heavens do they cripple the board like that? And where are the quad results?

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Cost savings, must be.

They really cut costs on their DK budget series from what I can see. Anyway, if you are going to do CF, it makes no diff cos P45 is 8x8 limited anyway so I am still getting one - there is no other competing mATX mobo for CF presently.

Yeah good people, let's see some quad results pls. :)

Nice fsb!

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Ok, that does it for me. I was thinking of try this thing out but now I've decided not to.

Why in heavens do they cripple the board like that? And where are the quad results?

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So as i understand it, both slots are fixed at 8x, whether single card or crossfire? If so, will 8x cripple/bottleneck the latest cards? I'd be running one 4870.

I really hope to see some OC results with a quad soon really looking forward to a matx for gaming and currently this looks like the best bet.

Q9550 ES E0-Stepping - Batch L816A850 - 500MHz FSB - 4,25GHz @ 1,376V @ DFI LANparty JR P45-T2RS

http://www.abload.de/thumb/a_protpc0.jpg :D

Any beta BIOS available? Or Smartguardian in the JR-Edition?

Nice result Chebu! I can't wait to get mine.

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Q9550 ES E0-Stepping - Batch L816A850 - 500MHz FSB - 4,25GHz @ 1,376V @ DFI LANparty JR P45-T2RS

http://www.abload.de/thumb/a_protpc0.jpg :D

Any beta BIOS available? Or Smartguardian in the JR-Edition?

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This board keeps looking better and better :D

Great overclock!

Just got mine yesterday from Newegg looking forward to putting my Q6600 G0 on it over the weekend and seeing what I kind of OC I can achieve. I also have a pair of Nvidia 8800gts 512 that will be filling the 2 pcie X8 slots and 4gig G.Skill 1066 ram going to be a busy weekend :)

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I also have a pair of Nvidia 8800gts 512 that will be filling the 2 pcie X8 slots and 4gig G.Skill 1066 ram going to be a busy weekend :)

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Are you going to run dual monitors? The board does not support SLI.

Actually I am going to be using the second card when I am folding for the most part the gaming I do a single 8800 gts will do the job fine.

Probably my next board also. Good that they pay attention to the other form factors aswell, ATX is big and boring lol

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Originally Posted by Shadowtester

Actually I am going to be using the second card when I am folding for the most part the gaming I do a single 8800 gts will do the job fine.

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Sounds like a winner.

what voltages are you using to hit that fsb?

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Thanks for the pics.

I do hope DFI doesn't go down now that Foxconn have bought some of the minds ;). This and the new DK revisions are fantastic signs.

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Which DK revisions are you referring to?

The DK P45 and X48 "plus" revisions, with digital PWM. There are a couple of threads in this forum about it.

Reached the max in prime95 custom for my watercooling:

http://www.abload.de/thumb/1b_protilq.jpg

www.overclockingstation.de

I don't see the point in 2 PCI-E 16x slots, blocks off the PCI-E 1x slot and the PCI slot. Npbdy wants single slot coolers these days, they can't cut it. Would of made much more sence to have 1 16x slot, leave a space then the PCI-E 1x slot and PCI slot. [sarcasm] well done on the layout DFI :clap: :rolleyes: [/sarcasm]

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I don't see the point in 2 PCI-E 16x slots, blocks off the PCI-E 1x slot and the PCI slot. Npbdy wants single slot coolers these days, they can't cut it. Would of made much more sence to have 1 16x slot, leave a space then the PCI-E 1x slot and PCI slot. [sarcasm] well done on the layout DFI :clap: :rolleyes: [/sarcasm]

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Watercooling?

It's funny how a manufacturer like DFI that so clearly turns to the hard core OC'er with a plethora of bios settings and external cmos switch, releases a MB that is crippled with a 8x pci-e. You can tweak it in absurdum to gain a few extra MHz, but when it comes to the pci-e and gfx "little to no loss" is apparantely close enough. The performance loss will ofcourse be even more evident when next generation gfx's is out. It is simply beyond me.:shakes:

how's this board treating you guys? i'm kinda loss with the vcore...instead of the usual, it just says special add...

I'm still working on this board as well. I definitely need to read up on clocking the 45nm CPUS as well as delve deep into the bios settings. Once I go watercooling with my SFF case, I'll really push my processor and such

anybody got bios settings on this board?